Idea : The PawnShop

[LTA]

Ok so how about making this the player economy part, if anyones played FFXI i am thinking like the auction house sorta thing.

Basically the Pawn Shop lists should start empty, then when people sell them something the stock appears for sale, so like someone sells 8 chests, then 8 chests will be put for sale.
I think most/all second hand stuff should only be sellable to pawnshops as why would shops buy second hand goods when they have there own artifact good stuff coming in.

Make rares sell for to them for very good money and then the re sell price can be a little higher.
So basically make them buy at a reasonable rate and sell at a reasonable rate but make it entirely player influenced in what is for sale.

[Sorontar]

I like this idea a lot as long as everything could be sold at a decent price ( including BPs etc ). Then players could get a second hand gun of cool quality OR buy a BP and pay for a constructor to make a new one.

The TL of the item would be taken into account for BPs for substance costs and parts cost for construction. Then a small mark up so the tradeskiller makes a profit and again a small mark up for the shop.

As long as a researcher or constructor could turn a small profit by selling there it would be viable I reckon.

Also the non-BPable implants could stay in circulation for new players to buy at a fair price.

[Devils Grace]

yeA

and after remove spys from game, kuz trade skill will be lost

besides i like the economy just like that

items beloging to playrs should be trade/sell by players
either with player shops, or as now hapens trade - channel

u think the prices are high, go spend weeks hunting techs or making bps (big jobs) to build 100 weapons so u can get those 4 5 sloters, like all the rest

if i spend loads oftime hunting, reserching, building i want to ask the price that i want for it, u think its expensive, dont buy and do the same


stfu

[Candaman]

The shop idea is already on its way in with BDOY last time i heard

[Devils Grace]

wich one ?


player or pawn shop

i hope is player

[Candaman]

Yeah sorry player shops where u'll be able to put ur items in there and put the price u want for them and people can buy off u even when ur offline

[Devils Grace]

good

close this shit then

pointless

[LTA]

Originally posted by Devils Grace
yeA

and after remove spys from game, kuz trade skill will be lost

besides i like the economy just like that

items beloging to playrs should be trade/sell by players
either with player shops, or as now hapens trade - channel

u think the prices are high, go spend weeks hunting techs or making bps (big jobs) to build 100 weapons so u can get those 4 5 sloters, like all the rest

if i spend loads oftime hunting, reserching, building i want to ask the price that i want for it, u think its expensive, dont buy and do the same


stfu

roflmao.... i have 650 tech parts, i have so many built rares i am running out of a place to put em...
Tell me how the fact i can sell something to a shop removes spies?
Wait omg no..... he didn't build that 4 slotter and sell it to yo's for 500k who then sells it on to someone who needs it for 500k...
I have a cstr/resser barter combo... i have millions of nc, for every vhc 10 i find thats 1 apc and thats 1 extra wedge in the bank account.

Your almost saying crytons/a&w removes the need for tradeskillers...... duh

o and my idea was basically that yo's becomes a player shop as i said the stock is effected by what players sell and buy from it..

Read my post more carefully o_O

[Devils Grace]

then before the player shops are availble, do ur own business.

advertise on trade that u have n00bie stuff to sell at good prices

more roleplayingh that way

that way u will do to the comunity a favor and boost ur reputation of good samaritan

isnt it better ?

[Sorontar]

I am a spy AND a researcher AND I have two aprtments full of rares that were hunted for , but I think this would be a good idea. Just think about the idea and take in the big picture. Oh I am also a recycler so don't go on about working long hours for no reward because I think that that should be in the skill decription for recycle.

You will still need the tradeskillers to fill the shop won't you , but rather than being forced to stand in Plaza 1 ( listening to a bunch of numbnuts screaming indecipherable shite ) to make a living you could sell them in this shop. It would also make more sense to sell all those two slot guns ( which are surplus to requirement because a 5 slotter has been ordered )somewhere that the players can get them rather than Yo's / A&W which is just a waste.

Also as a Researcher / Constructor you would be guaranteed a return on your labour rather than some lame guy getting you to do 25 BPs and then barely covering your overheads. If they refuse to give you what you want then you could sell the BPs at this shop and they would either have to cough up a further inflated price or hang about in Plaza looking for another Researcher.

Which would be hard after you have just announced in Trade what they are doing , black balling them.

( The trade channel is bollox as well because all you get is two groups of people screaming how one owned the other and the other party coming back with how ther're gonna log there friends-mothers-aunties-maxed out alt-PE and kill them. When someone actually informs me that the trade channels are being used correctly I may go on them )

Player shops are also a good idea ( loved them on UO ) and I really do hope they make it into DOY. But there would still be a niche for this shop for the tradeskillers who cannot or don't wish to buy a shop for themselves.

[Devils Grace]

ok since u use and like tyo use trade skillers chars, i got one question

Will u use this shop once the player shops are availble ?

errr 2 questions in fact

Dont u prefer having ur own shop with ur own prices ?

there will be competition among the players owners of shops for sure
the one that has better prices at better quality will sell more and will be more rerquested

so u dont need a pawn shop

so this topic is pointless

and ur is to

[LTA]

Originally posted by Devils Grace
ok since u use and like tyo use trade skillers chars, i got one question

Will u use this shop once the player shops are availble ?

errr 2 questions in fact

Dont u prefer having ur own shop with ur own prices ?

there will be competition among the players owners of shops for sure
the one that has better prices at better quality will sell more and will be more rerquested

so u dont need a pawn shop

so this topic is pointless

and ur is to


It's all good saying your own with your own prices.... but if people don't buy it don't sell.... so therefore it's pointless to the skiller then...
There won't exactly be much competition neither as tradeskilling in general is a boring sink which resulted in the loming of most...

so yes i would... because i can just unload everything into yo's and make my money there if people want my goods yo's has em i don't need my own shop... Trade Channel/Trade Forum/General Chat dosent sell the items i have so i doubt the shop will do majorly better either

[Sorontar]

I probably would use both ........

But I think that the player owned shops are likely to specialise in high end goods and therefore will be inaccessible to new players. Also there is likely to be a large price tag attached to the apartment , I would expect them to cost much more than a level three apartment.

What the pawn shop will service is the low end of the market in all likelihood, if player shops are introduced. Level 1 imps etc. that only lowbies obtain can be circulated via this shop.

The only problem could be players buying everything purely to re-sell in their own shops at vastly inflated prices. But that could bite them in the arse as people in general will have an idea of an items worth, and the fat cat could end up with 40 Smart Cyber Eye 1's sat in their shop that no new players can afford and refuse to save up for because they saw one in the Pawnshop at 25% of the price.

[FlashFF]

I think its a pretty sweet idea
what would be better tho is if there was a way ppl could put there items in a shop and it gets bought even while theyre offline and only when its bought do they get the money
this would allow players to set the price for each item

with so little players online at any one time, its hard to do any real trading

[Keiron]

Originally posted by Devils Grace
wich one ?


player or pawn shop

i hope is player
Player *glances at his sig*

[Candaman]

lol

[Sealdude]

Player *glances at his sig*


Ditto for me.