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just had a nightmare of a playing session in PP, managed to die 6 times, mainly due to the guards but still it a lot.
and only thing i can say is my aiming is starting to suck so badly.
i used to be able to aim pretty good on my tank a while ago, and was pretty handy with him, but now couldnt hit shit in PP before, which is totaly embarresing.
almost totally capped tank and im hitting everything excpt what im aiming at.
was trying to fight a hybrid in PP, pull out my speed gun and im lucky to hit him more often than i miss, then element[] pulls his gat out and its like its magnetized and from what g0rt said in another thread he aint even been on his tank much.
how the fuck can my aiming go from fairly decent to utter shit, logged of pissed cos i couldnt hit what i was aiming at and as a result died to a fucking spy.
as the tanks the only class i like playing now and i like to PvP, if i cant get aiming back there not much point in playing:(
and i aint going back to playing a no aim monkey
Psyco Groupie
30-12-03, 02:13
apart from the recepticle all neocron aiming is just track the player and hold mouse 1 .. easy ? :D
AOE needs technique but that even easier
if you ever had it you'll ge it back </vetterox>
:lol:
Practice dude... Go with some people (and a PPU to rezz) to a warzone or neofrag...
{MD}GeistDamnit
30-12-03, 02:16
I just used my tank for the first time in 2 months yesterday. I got owned by my buddy in NF :p it's all about the loop, if your not in it you will loose. but I did feel the aim wasent as fast as it used to be. weird o_O
speed cannon is hard to aim, its got a similar reticule reaction to pain easer.
with cs its best to sweep over your enemy and time your bursts for the next sweep, holding down the mouse button rarely works well, but if your good enough then its ok.
everyone has shit days when they cant hit anything, i had one a cpl of weeks ago in neofrag and it was bloody depressing, Rade had to cheer me up hehe.
like psycho says, if you had it then your skill will come back just dont loose heart.
I suck at aiming, too.
It doesn't help when you get like 5 FPS during fights either.
Play a pe lol its much easier to aim. A well setup pe with good aiming owns.
Might just be having a bad aiming day, I get that, CS's are hardish to aim with as well, unless you are really good, probably just a bad day.
I've been having a bad while with Drikie... I'm just shit atm. :(
I had that for a while, but I just played my tank much more, especially using my CS instead of my gatling cannon because 'insta-aiming' with a gatling seems to spoil my CS aim. With a tank I think there's less room for error - don't hit who you're aiming at enough and you're dead; our heals are slow and we have no method of escaping easily (unlike PE's/Spies with Stealth and PPU's with good defenses/parashock).
What do you guys have your mouse sensitivity on?
Mine's on 4 bars.
well thanks for encouragement, justfeels like ive been getting worse and worse over time.
looks like its long practice sessions of endless PvP for me.
not sure what my mouse sensitivity is at have to check it out when i get back from work
Originally posted by Vid Gamer
What do you guys have your mouse sensitivity on?
Mine's on 4 bars.
I dont remember exactly but I think it's something like 2.5 bars. Lower sensitivity helps immensely with aiming if you can get used to it.
I used to play quake with high sensitivity (I think around sensitivity 17 or maybe more in my earlier days) - there is a drastic difference at a lower sensitivity, your cursor is much less likely to move off the target once you have it - imo that's better than being able to turn around _really_ quickly as you are still able to turn quickly, just have to move your arm more and then slow it down for proper accuracy.
They have to change HC tanks so he can cap his damn Aiming and Frequency, i just dont see why they dont do it...Every weapon can be capped, but heavy combat no....
Original monk
30-12-03, 13:41
lom youre 55 hackskills to weaponlore :P
Originally posted by Original monk
lom youre 55 hackskills to weaponlore :P
not sure who thats aimed at but i think i have just over 100 in weapon lore with my tank setup
it aint really my tanks aiming im having trouble with its more my poor aiming with my tank.
was dueling a CA tank other day and if we had of been doing it to death i would of died2 of the 3 times to him, the only reason i got 1 was cos he messed up.
i used to fight people and actually hit them now im aiming all over the show.
Shadow Dancer
30-12-03, 14:30
Tank aiming is too easy, "real" pvpers stick with PSI monk aiming. Now that takes skillz!
Originally posted by Shadow Dancer
Tank aiming is too easy, "real" pvpers stick with PSI monk aiming. Now that takes skillz!
yeah sure keep telling your self that, cos its real hard to aim without a recticle thingy:rolleyes:
damn monkeys
You probably just had a bad day, happens to everyone. Some
days you just cant get the timing right and pull the trigger a
fraction of a second too late every time and just wont realise wtf
you are doing wrong. Just log off, get something to eat and
watch some shitty high-school movie or something and youll be
fine again tomorrow, trying to force yourself into the zone once it
starts going pear-shaped will just make you more frustrated.
Originally posted by Rade
You probably just had a bad day, happens to everyone. Some
days you just cant get the timing right and pull the trigger a
fraction of a second too late every time and just wont realise wtf
you are doing wrong. Just log off, get something to eat and
watch some shitty high-school movie or something and youll be
fine again tomorrow, trying to force yourself into the zone once it
starts going pear-shaped will just make you more frustrated. proberbly right, lol see how it goes if it goes tits up again look out for my leaving thread:lol:
Originally posted by ezza
yeah sure keep telling your self that, cos its real hard to aim without a recticle thingy:rolleyes:
damn monkeys He was being sarcastic, I'm sure.
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Anyway, you probably had a bad day, happens to most people occasionally. Usually it get's made up for after a while by suddenly having an extremely good day, y'know, the kind of day in which it seems as if your aiming is close to perfect, the kind of day that'd seriously impress anyone, the kind of day which get's you kicked from counterstrike with an accusion of cheating!
Originally posted by J. Folsom
He was being sarcastic, I'm sure.
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Anyway, you probably had a bad day, happens to most people occasionally. Usually it get's made up for after a while by suddenly having an extremely good day, y'know, the kind of day in which it seems as if your aiming is close to perfect, the kind of day that'd seriously impress anyone, the kind of day which get's you kicked from counterstrike with an accusion of cheating!
yeah i know he was, i was making use of his patent emote:rolleyes:
dunno whats up with my aiming i wouldnt mind accusasson of cheating at least id know i was spot on then:D but at the mo im fighting like a 0/2 noob who thinks he can use the implant tool as a weapon:p
Originally posted by numb
I dont remember exactly but I think it's something like 2.5 bars. Lower sensitivity helps immensely with aiming if you can get used to it.
I used to play quake with high sensitivity (I think around sensitivity 17 or maybe more in my earlier days) - there is a drastic difference at a lower sensitivity, your cursor is much less likely to move off the target once you have it - imo that's better than being able to turn around _really_ quickly as you are still able to turn quickly, just have to move your arm more and then slow it down for proper accuracy.
I like 4 because anything after that I feel it moves to fast to stay on the target.. like I would sweep over him if I jerked the mouse too much, yet having it too low isn't good because then it isn't smooth because your mouse rolls off your pad and you have to adjust it because it doesn't turn quick enough. :(
SamuraiPizzaCat
30-12-03, 21:16
one tip for aiming practice
try buffin vet while hes in "WHERE IS THAT STEALTH SNIPER" mode...
Originally posted by Vid Gamer
I like 4 because anything after that I feel it moves to fast to stay on the target.. like I would sweep over him if I jerked the mouse too much, yet having it too low isn't good because then it isn't smooth because your mouse rolls off your pad and you have to adjust it because it doesn't turn quick enough. :(
Oops now I'm home I realise I am on 4 aswell - I thought 4 was much higher up the scale than 50%. I guess 4 bars on here is around 12 sensitivity in quake.
If you had the desk space + arm strength for it, I am guessing that less would still be better:)
For a while I used to play actionquake2 and for sniping my sensitivity started at 6 (for 2x zoom) and gradually went down to 2 (for 6x zoom). It was still possible to spend the entire game in 2x zoom and move about quite freely (it involves a lot of lifting the mouse to get more of a track for it). Probably not good for neocron, unless maybe you play first person mode (depending on your class). The sensitivity seems to be less when you are playing 3rd Person.
edit: A lot of my clan mates in quakeworld used to use sensitivities as low as 6 for normal play - I never tried it out though... i may have been on sensitivity 32 at the time ;)
Yah I know we've all had bad days. Especially with certain types of guns. I swear Ive gone an entire duel before without hitting the other person a single time. Then other days I'll hit almost every shot.
Also, where in PP was it? For instance I HATE fighting in PP1 down near the entrance of club Vero. There are so many damn camera change angles that fighting in 3rd person with a Libby in those areas is so worthless that if Im not having an uber aiming day, I wont hit anything there. :(
yeah was in PP1 near the entrance and just inside before you get to the club.
PvP'd a bit this evening and done a bit better died once due to the guards attacking me but aiming felt a bit better, still seemed a long way of what it has been in the past though
___T-X____
31-12-03, 01:19
There is something wrong with tank aim, when im setup as pvp duel tank and hacking tank i notice no aiming difference. I played a tank for a year...and loom between Hacking/duel many times. I would also argue that the benefit of % H-C bonus WL at the top end is questionable. When I drugged to pa4 for overall duel pvp aim bonus (also H-C) there was nothing noticable (b4 last patch)
I still believe after changing my setup an awful lot, that a H-C tank should concentrate on being faster, even at (perceived) Cons Penalty.
Military Ten
31-12-03, 01:20
kinda stange my aiming has gone down and i just got my account back lol i started to PVP and i killed a 2 star tank, a 3 star APU and a Spy when I was only 3 chevs (i lost all my imps) and i was using a TPC in PA my aiming sucked by i managed to get off a couple bursts and own em
damn pressed the enter button too fast, but my aiming has really gone down a lot im like 3 feet from someone and my int is capped with all weapon lore i shoot at them and 2 bolts of plasma missed i was like..wtf..
hmm thats kinda interesting what your saying TX, ive not tested out the effect of weaponlore really on heavy weapons, might log on test server and check it out.
yup know what ya mean military, ive not had a bad a time even when i was a tank noob, i mean as a level xx/57 tank barely able to use my CS i destroyed a xx/67 TG tank, its not like i was shit and gone even shitter.
i mean i wouldnt of said i was near the best. but i knew i could take the best right to the wire, but atm id be more likely to run:lol:
Military Ten
31-12-03, 01:53
lol i think tanks should get 25 int atleast, i mean cmon..were not that retarded o_O plus out aiming will suck anyway even with just 25 more points into weapon lore, we'll have the aiming of a pistol :D aim for a bit, take off for 5 seconds we have to reaim.
Spectra260
31-12-03, 01:57
same thing for me...
i remember being able to hit most of my shots when fighting...but now i just miss so much it drives me nuts..
lately ive been blaming it on the fact that i play cs alot again and thats where all my FPS skill went:p
Military Ten
31-12-03, 02:19
after playing Neocron for 1 1/2 years if i play cs i press soo many fing buttons i hold down shift to run and i walk, i press tab to talk and it shows scores lol but im better at killing, i run around CTs or Ts with an MP5 and pwn em! >3 GO NEOSKIZZA IT HELPS CS SKILLZ
___T-X____
31-12-03, 02:27
yup know what ya mean military, ive not had a bad a time even when i was a tank noob, i mean as a level xx/57 tank barely able to use my CS i destroyed a xx/67 TG tank, its not like i was shit and gone even shitter.
youll see the runspeed benefit % vs the hit % vs Cons improvements on Random PvP ammo modding in random duel situations.
basically - Runspeed % is consistant, and always applied.
Cons specalisation/overall consistantcy is a waste if the other tank gets a better % hitrate due to speed than the specialisation resist/armour setup u have
Originally posted by ___T-X____
youll see the runspeed benefit % vs the hit % vs Cons improvements on Random PvP ammo modding in random duel situations.
ok explain that again making out im a noob tank with 1intel lol, once people start talking %ages it goes right over my head
___T-X____
31-12-03, 02:35
sorry ezza, i adjusted my post.
read up ^^ Its difficult to put it into words, hence edit
lol, fuck it. just have high runspeed lol, dont spend time using skill managers balancing the PvP % damage. Just run faster than the other bastard, and stay behind them, without circle running pvp - its better than specialising / being overall average damage sponge - i cant win, every thread gets more complex rofl
ok ill spend my time in work later on today working that one out, ill get it in the end:D
Fighting in 3rd person in PP is shit, especially at the beggining in the alleyway just because it's so tight spaced your camara moves around everywhere and you can't really get a good aim.
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