View Full Version : Implantation Terminals. (Brainport)
Psycho_Soldier
28-12-03, 07:03
I am suggesting this because of the lack of players and pokers just simply don't want to poke anymore. I suggest implant terminals. Only for use inside the city or your apt. It would cost to get poked by these terminals, price varies on the level of the user and the TL of the implant. The tradeskill wouldn't be useless though, you wouldn't need to go back to your apt or city to get poked and it would/could be free depending on if you are poking yourself or the person poking you. It would be best to only need the skill to only need half the TL of the implant. It's just too much of a pain these days to get poked, takes too much time and is one of many things that take the fun out of the game.
I disagree.
Dieing is already nothing big unless you happen to pop out an MC5 chip, and even then you probably have a clanny on who will pop all your imps back in and you're ready to fight in 5 minutes.
With a machine people would just use that and money wouldn't be a concern since most people have tons now and pokers will be even less scarce then they are now. At least no pokers means you fear death more. :p
Psycho_Soldier
28-12-03, 08:23
No pokers means to me that you need PPUs or you wont fight. If you had a easy way of getting poked I think that would put less dependancy on PPUs to rez you. Not everyone is in a clan that has a poker on often. Maybe that would be different if the servers had around 400-500 people like back in Dec last year.
I know what you mean :\ Back a year ago you had traders standing in plaza 1 doing their stuff, i was repairing, judge was repairing, we were having advertising wars :lol: then there was dr.quinn who was always there pokin, lexxuk harassing everyone, a few pokers, zai was generally there with some other cst's, we all used to have a laff in P1 or P2, but now theres never really anyone there yelling their skills over local/zone/tradenc/skillnc :\
Pretty much everyone's in a clan, or knows certain traders they always use, so contact them direct now . . .
100 * the TL of the poke would work I think.
that means newbies can get their bones poked for no more than 800. and the MC5 chips will take 11500 off ya. Then pokers would be more in demand - 'cause they give cheaper pokes - possibly quicker too.
Edit:\ Yes I like the idea.
shodanjr_gr
28-12-03, 17:01
I agree, we need poke terms. ITs really difficult to get a poke nowadays.
Necrosadistic
28-12-03, 17:10
Originally posted by shodanjr_gr
I agree, we need poke terms. ITs really difficult to get a poke nowadays.
If poking by players was much cheaper than this a poker would make no money... Have you seen the cost of the poketools? Its only a matter of time that the whole thing with being able to poke all levels with a TL30 tool will be fixed...
As for getting poked, its never much of a problem on Saturn... Always someone doing it...
Dribble Joy
28-12-03, 17:18
Poke machines would be like haveing rep machines, or any other tradeskill.
Players wouldn't be needed anymore.
Tradeskillers are part and parcel of a MMORPG (which this is, despite what some people think)
Many people still do poke, maybe your server (Pluto?) is a bit poop regarding the others.
I poke tl 115 on my PE, and my services are highly in need, people come across the world, or pay my gr fees for an MC5 poke.
Also, it is almost my sole method of income, it supports my ammo and my redflash habit.
Originally posted by shodanjr_gr
I agree, we need poke terms. ITs really difficult to get a poke nowadays.
Hehe, try offering more than 10K for an MC5 implant, i know a few tradeskillers who waited untill someone offered 30-50K or above for such a poke :)
Poking, kneel for service on saturn. Seriously pokebots would make tradeskills less needed which would be another step towards pure fps. Tradeskilling isn't very rewarding right now and pokebots wouldn't make situation any better.
i allways wonder that ppl notice the need of service and ask for KK to fix it. well theres a skill for it.
but then its: omg, why shoud i ruin my skillz for other ppl when i get more money from fighting.
Originally posted by msdong
i allways wonder that ppl notice the need of service and ask for KK to fix it. well theres a skill for it.
but then its: omg, why shoud i ruin my skillz for other ppl when i get more money from fighting.
TBH i think that's half the reason tradeskillers gave up... you build someone a nice few slot plasmas use half your gel and get tipped 2k... or you make 50 odd drones and they tip you 10k... eventually the time and money you have to spend just make pvm more rewarding and it's more interesting...
imo the whole tradeskill system needs a good look over and some more tweaking, the auto parts into the processor for csters was a good start... now carry on :p
you cant just get a poke machine.
this will ruin the entire poking tradeskill.
so unless theyre gonna remove the poking tradeskill..
then i think this is a very very bad idea.
If you want Pokers, people are going to have to tip a little better...
The other night on Saturn, someone was spamming trade for about ten minutes, so I decided to GR in to P2 to poke him(I was out hunting at the time, 4k GR fee).....
Poked him a couple of times, no tip.....
I didn't say anything, I don't need the money, but I didn't even get a thank you....
Normally, this character pokes anti-city and nibs for free, and the guy I poked was factionless, so I didn't know what to think.
But, I think it the same guy I bought some APU PA off of for 25k more than he was asking....
So much for be nice......:rolleyes:
Point being....
Treat tradeskillers a little better and you won't need a Poke-Bot or any other Trade-Bot....
no I don't agree with it either . ..there are still pokers around .. yes there are times tha they aren't any on . .but that doesn't typically happen for very long if there are enough people asking for pokes. Poking is a skill that people take advantage of and it's made this way because there are people who don't need money and just poke for free . . .
Personally I think poke tools need to be activated like vehicle Keys and then you enter in a money amount that ## x TL is the cost of the poke . .so you aim at the person and click poke .. then the poke charge box comes up and the other player has to click Accept for your set price and can even enter in an additional tip if they care to do so. oh wait i'm getting off topic on an idea :p
Anyhow again no.
Psycho_Soldier
29-12-03, 08:19
As some people pointed out here, pokers don't get tipped much or at all. I usually tip around 15-30k though. The majority of people though don't tip or tip enough or show enough thanks. I think poking is a joke of a tradeskill, it shouldn't exist or require much of the skill to poke all levels, meaning no gimping to poke. Only reason why pokers actually poke imo is because they are bored and want to be nice. They most certainly don't do it for money. These pokers seem to be dying out though as people show no gratitude.
Originally posted by Spoon
If you want Pokers, people are going to have to tip a little better...
The other night on Saturn, someone was spamming trade for about ten minutes, so I decided to GR in to P2 to poke him(I was out hunting at the time, 4k GR fee).....
Poked him a couple of times, no tip.....
I didn't say anything, I don't need the money, but I didn't even get a thank you....
Normally, this character pokes anti-city and nibs for free, and the guy I poked was factionless, so I didn't know what to think.
But, I think it the same guy I bought some APU PA off of for 25k more than he was asking....
So much for be nice......:rolleyes:
Point being....
Treat tradeskillers a little better and you won't need a Poke-Bot or any other Trade-Bot....
dude.. theres a lot of people tipping well..
last week i saw a guy who got fucking 500 k for a full implant poke !! seriously !! wish it was me..
but the most common is 500 -> 2000 nc per poke.
U talking about not tipping well enough well ROFL, try a researcher for the change....and compare that to poker. Poker easy gets 1K-5K, or 30K o or more for mc5. And if u look at research most of the times u can barely buy lub from the tips u get..
Pokers do earn something , researchers dont reason why i almost never serve any ppl in p1 , just not worth it and i dont see why people do it to be honest...
yea well the whole tipping thing is lame .. and it's mostly from people who mostly don't care about money. If you make set charge rate per TL, unless you are the only person on at the time, the guy next to you is going to get the business cause he says .. FREE "tradeskill" tips welcome but not needed :rolleyes:
People always make such retard excuse, but u exp from this man, '' this is enough to cover ur lub and here 1K tip for the work'' i mean -_-.
Tradeskilling takes alot of time and u dont have 2 do it for the exp , but it doesnt give any cash aswell... If i repair somebody his gear (pa etc) when i charge like 10K then its omg u fucker, u stealer , u ohnoz zldflfqlfd....
Its really sad, and if a constructor makes like a 4 slot rare he can get more cash then a resser in a entire week :/
Everyone whined that PPUs were ruining fights because they could rez them.. well now feel the effect of nerfing PPUs.. Live with it.
Anyway. Spy spell, poke glove and a couple of points thrown into implant and you can do yourself.
Its really sad, and if a constructor makes like a 4 slot rare he can get more cash then a resser in a entire week :/
OMG I thought it was just me.
Ressing - In general ok tips. Good tips if you get the part they want.
CST - If you get multi slots they love you, otherwise they dont like you.
Repairing - Seems to tip ok, I had one guy saying he wanted the repair lube back after i repaired.
But my favorites was after Ressing and Csting some items for a guy he says 'Have the lube as a tip'.
Or another gave a me a spell to repair. I pointed out he needed to get gel and handed back the spell (not repaired at this point), at that point he said 'Ha ha thanks sucker! screw you and your tip' and ran off.
Or one Directing me to come to him for a big job and he will pay well, but then says he can't come to me because he can't pay the 1k GR fee. o_O
Originally posted by Archeus
Everyone whined that PPUs were ruining fights because they could rez them.. well now feel the effect of nerfing PPUs.. Live with it.
Anyway. Spy spell, poke glove and a couple of points thrown into implant and you can do yourself.
OMG I thought it was just me.
Ressing - In general ok tips. Good tips if you get the part they want.
CST - If you get multi slots they love you, otherwise they dont like you.
Repairing - Seems to tip ok, I had one guy saying he wanted the repair lube back after i repaired.
But my favorites was after Ressing and Csting some items for a guy he says 'Have the lube as a tip'.
Or another gave a me a spell to repair. I pointed out he needed to get gel and handed back the spell (not repaired at this point), at that point he said 'Ha ha thanks sucker! screw you and your tip' and ran off.
Or one Directing me to come to him for a big job and he will pay well, but then says he can't come to me because he can't pay the 1k GR fee. o_O
lol... he must have felt like a sucker when he found out about the spell =P
anyways.. ye that cant pay the 1k gr fee and pay well.. just summet fishy abou´t it :P cant put my finger on what ^^ :rolleyes:
I agree i think there should be poking terminals but it would be like:
TL1 implant = 100nc
TL10 implant = 1000nc
TL50 implant = 5000nc
TL84 implant = 8400nc
TL115 mc5 chip = 11500nc
Of course these prices could be changed but its only a guideline.
I disagree. Where would be the need for pokers?
There might as well be constructing, researching and repairing terminals as well, so all those players can be just as useless as those who have spent time leveling and speccing points into implant.
no poking terms.. keep tradeskills alive...
tip well.. make it worthwhile being a tradeskiller..
also takes the fun out of denying ppl service... 'hey u pkd me while i was hunting... here's a stick.. go poke urself' :D
I generally try to tip well providing I've got money in the first place. However, I've never tipped less than 200k for a 115 poke... only took about an entire 30 seconds to find a poker too... :D
YES we need a poke machine. maye it cost 200X the tl, who the hell cares. the point is when Im playing at non peek hours and die and want a poke, I want it NOW not wait an hour for a poker to show up. research cst etc can wait, though annoying. a poke cant wait. pokers could still poke in the field and charge less then poke machines and poke faster, they wouldnt be made useless.
poking is a good tradeskill
unfortunately we all know that this game is 110% about specialisation. aka, a monk with pure psi use will be better then a monk with poking and psi use
its a shame, maybe if this wasn't so we would see more tradeskillers on the single char servers
Originally posted by VetteroX
... maye it cost 200X the tl, who the hell cares. ...
yup, thats one of the reason. who the hell cares about money.
why not simply learn the skill ?
Psycho_Soldier
30-12-03, 13:28
Originally posted by msdong
yup, thats one of the reason. who the hell cares about money.
why not simply learn the skill ?
Ya sure, ill just fuck my character up so I can poke myself... :rolleyes:
Specialization sucks.
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