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Jesterthegreat
02-12-03, 12:45
Originally posted by Martin J. Schwiezer
Just because long timers lose some of their buddies who have spent almost a year in the game doesn't mean that the game is dying. Subscriber numbers show that the gaps are refilled by new players and that new groups form on the servers where long-timers might not have immediate access to.

Since this thread state "The death of Neocron" as if it was a "fact statement" (which is BS)... I have to close it. Next time you want to discuss the fact that some of your buddies have left, please name the thread accordingly or at least name it as a question. Thanks.

Also, please keep in mind that a game cannot hold every player forever. I don't remember the last time, a game was fun to me for over a year. If it becomes boring after a year... why complain??? If you don't want to wait for DoY then you should better move on to the next game and then see for yourself whether it might entertain you for more than a year.


now this isnt me reopening a closed thread... but i would like to know from the people if they have games that have interested them for > 1 year

personally i played UO for 2 years, EQ for a year and a half and DAoC for 2 years... games such as counter strike no longer hold intrest to me... but thats due to some changes which (IMHO) ruined the game. i now play a hl mod called The Specialists (http://www.specialistsmod.net), which (most of the time) is fun as hell. however the fact that when i do log onto NC, all i do is run around plaza 1 like an idiot shows the level of interest i (and many others) have in this game. i love this game. i would hate to leave it, i really would. however i feel there is nothing keeping me here. i am the monkey that is organising SUKING... so it shows how much i love this game - however i highly doubt i will log onto NC during that weekend

so yes. this is a discussion of this game / other games playability. this is not stating anything as a fact - mearly how i see the situation. AFAIK this breaks no rules - if it does then i apologise and accept its closing

RuButt
02-12-03, 12:51
http://photopile.com/photos/asdfgadgh/auctions/67404.jpg

we better nerf teh ppus, he only lost 3hp and riz is soon dead! :o

Jesterthegreat
02-12-03, 12:52
well...


thanks for that highly constructive post and thanks for being an active member of the community :rolleyes:

RuButt
02-12-03, 12:57
Originally posted by Jesterthegreat
well...


thanks for that highly constructive post and thanks for being an active member of the community :rolleyes:


had no idea what to say, so i went with the flow and requested a PPU nerf....



but, hmm...personally i think that the LAGG and SYNC problems have fucked the game...

i would still be there...my friends would still be there....alot of ppl would come back...

alot of us old timers said that we would quit if they didnt fix the lagg problems....i belive that they are trying to....

but they said in some patch that the lagg was fixed....but it was worse after that..

haha, anyone remember the first hybrid nerf? that made them stronger!


well....keep on nerfin

Mumblyfish
02-12-03, 12:58
Hmm... if you're asking for a list, you're getting it.

Neocron, best start here. 15 months long addiction. Still going strong.

Super Mario RPG. 4 years. Logged well over 300 hours in this game, and have started around 20 different save files.

Super Mario Kart. 6 years. Still played every weekend with "me mates". Mumbly's Uber Gaming Extravaganza.

The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time. To be fair, I'd say about 3 years on and off. Completed 7 times since I got it.

Mario Tennis. Again, 4-player played every weekend after 3 years.

Team Fortress Classic. About 4 years I think... don't play that often, more like a few days every month or so.

Mario Bros 3. God knows how long. Still plugged into the TV, after what... 10 years or so?

Good God... the scary thing is I can list MORE. I'm obessive :eek:

deac
02-12-03, 12:58
well i played fallout tactics for over 1 year maybe 2.... with special rules you could change the game type soo much... i made over 1k chars for the multi play alone.... then there where a few nice mods.... in the end my ips wouldnt let me play it anymore soo I had to leave :\

Jesterthegreat
02-12-03, 13:00
i was personally going for MMORPG's only :lol:

there are many offline games that a cannot get enough of. and tbh if an offline game that i have played solidly for 5 or 6 years is more fun than a 1 year old MMORPG... O_o



:edit:

Fallout 1 > Fallout 2 > Fallout Tactics

:p

ezza
02-12-03, 13:30
not a MMORPG, but ive played diablo2 pretty much since it came out and still play it, dunno how long that is but must be a few years now.

been playing neocron for a year and although ive not logged in much of late ill still be in the game for a long time to come(im waiting for monks to be nerfed to hell before returning fulltime:D )

Breschau
02-12-03, 20:43
More a precursor to MMORPGs, but I played Avatar MUD for about 5 years. Though in fairness I was only really playing for 2-3 of those, with another 1 year as an 'immortal' (admin, member of staff, whatever you wanna call it) and the last year or two just logging on to chat to friends I'd made over the years there.

I also played another MUD, Aardwolf (300-500 players online almost regardless of timezone) for about 2 years (concurrently with Avatar, sorta overlapping when I still played there and when I was just online to chat)

Still, fairly good going for free text based games. In contrast, the actual mmorpgs I've played:

Neocron - lasted about 4-6 months, with a further 4-6 months playing in the sorta vague hopes I'd regain interest (or take a month break, then renew interest for 2-4 weeks and repeat).

Everquest - lasted maybe 3 weeks.

Anarchy Online - lasted about 2 months, now it's at the neocron stage of take a break, play a bit, back to a break (everquest didn't even make that stage).

Disturbed021
02-12-03, 22:31
"Just because long timers lose some of their buddies who have spent almost a year in the game doesn't mean that the game is dying. Subscriber numbers show that the gaps are refilled by new players and that new groups form on the servers where long-timers might not have immediate access to."

I completely disagree. I have seen ppl leaving for a long long time now and rarely see any new ppl join.
One major problem is you guys ARE NOT filling in the gaps with new players.
Someone please explain to me why all servers have half the population they did a year ago on average if kk is adding just as many players as those that are leaving?

Noone can because it's not happening. 1 person may join for every 2-3 that are leaving. Over a long period of time (not just a month or 2) this game will dwindle down to nothing if you let it. And thus far it seems like they have ignored bringing in new players and are waiting for DoY to be released hoping that is their saving grace.

I am getting sooooo bored now when I login to see <50 on my server. WTF is the point of playing a MMORPG if you never run into other ppl? I guess I'm just frustrated right now...

Beanie McChimp
02-12-03, 22:48
i know how you feel dude i would play star wars galaxies(Tbh im gagging) but the disc is too damn expensive so I guess until after christmas it's NC but I just heard about live runs and quite frankly [[I'd watch the language if you wish to keep posting here]] only selected people get to take advantage of content yeah great way to keep hold of the dwindling people left here.

Jesterthegreat
03-12-03, 02:53
Originally posted by Beanie McChimp
i know how you feel dude i would play star wars galaxies(Tbh im gagging) but the disc is too damn expensive so I guess until after christmas it's NC but I just heard about live runs and quite frankly [[I'd watch the language if you wish to keep posting here]] only selected people get to take advantage of content yeah great way to keep hold of the dwindling people left here.


ahahahahaahaha

SW:G sucks. about 5 peeps in wireworld have it - its so boring

Shujin
03-12-03, 03:55
Originally posted by RuButt
http://photopile.com/photos/asdfgadgh/auctions/67404.jpg

we better nerf teh ppus, he only lost 3hp and riz is soon dead! :o btw rizzy's banned so might as well replace that w/ someone else

Spoon
03-12-03, 05:31
Originally posted by Shujin
btw rizzy's banned so might as well replace that w/ someone else

Rizzy is banned ??


:confused:

Shujin
03-12-03, 05:49
Originally posted by Spoon
Rizzy is banned ??


:confused: yea someone told me he was recently banned for hacking his monk some hacked equip >.<

bounty
03-12-03, 06:11
I played quake 1 (mainly crctf for the vast majority of the time) from 1996 until 2000 almost daily, anywhere from 4-12 hours a day. Only reason towards the end my hourly play time went down was because i was playing tribes1 4-5 hours a day as well.
NC was my first mmorpg and i like it too has held my interest for over a year :)

Danae
03-12-03, 06:20
I think I've sort of responded to this in another thread, but I will direct you to what I said:

http://neocron.jafc.de/showthread.php?s=&postid=1086567#post1086567

Shujin
03-12-03, 06:25
Originally posted by Danae
I think I've sort of responded to this in another thread, but I will direct you to what I said:

http://neocron.jafc.de/showthread.php?s=&postid=1086567#post1086567 ey danae im on irc ;o wanna meet? now ?