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Psycho Killa
17-11-03, 05:51
How important is cleaning up the rare pool?

I think where all sick and tired of having 1000 different parts dropping to rares half of them being completely and utterly useless.

Anyways this has been an issue for many many months now and nothing has been done about it. Except adding more parts to the rare pool.


Ideas for cleaning up the rare pool include...

#1)Make slot enhancers a seperate part of the drop table and have them fall as whole for the 1slot enhancers... 2 parts for the 2 part enhancers... and 3 slot for the illegal 3 slot enhancers. Include different icons then the standard tech part to destinguish the two.

#2)Seperate ultima mods somewhat like the way mentioned above for enhancers. Considered seperate from tech parts but still require several parts to make give them different icons also.

#3)Remove some of the lower level melee rares and make them a storebought equivelant instead. (who needs 2 rare stun weapons that do jack?)

Theres plenty of more ideas but this is getting long and from my experience longer the post = less likely to be read :).


Also organization would take some of the sting out of having so many parts. Make heavy combats all one color, pistols, rifles,spells, other etc.

And having to wait forever to get a part ided doesnt help when u need to collect dozens and dozens of parts to have a chance at any weapon.

Please add any ideas you have to fix the pool.

Peeping Tom
17-11-03, 05:56
OMG yeah KK we can bitch about it enuf Make the SE drop as whole fucking parts plz
would be nice to have ultima mods as whole part tho.. but guess dat would be to uber..
K4F

ps nice to see you again :P

NeoChick
17-11-03, 07:31
Totally right, I need to buy another apartment to stash all the rares 85% of them quite useless so nobody will even trade them - that is what I risked my life for many times to grab the rare before dying!

We should stand on top of medicare building and throw down all the useless rares, perhaps then they won't be rare any longer and then perhapsmany of those will not drop any more

Haven't seen a Holy Lighnting tech part in weeks, nor a CS, PSI Core etc, its usually something like a Paw of Tiger, Slot enhancer 5, Laserblade Ultima etc

REMUS
17-11-03, 07:44
SEXY ANIMALS!!!

but seriously i dont know if they should clean it up unless they bring down drop rate by about 7-15%

Birkoff
17-11-03, 08:28
They should do something but i think that reducing the drop rate is much more important. YOu ccan get 2-4 rares on a WB these days :/

deac
17-11-03, 10:27
Originally posted by Birkoff
They should do something but i think that reducing the drop rate is much more important. YOu ccan get 2-4 rares on a WB these days :/

Oo the normal is 1 and if lucky 2... and thats like one in 4 wbs

Sorin
17-11-03, 10:51
Yes, seriously, clean up the pool. The drop rate right now is ghetto, but I might be able to tolerate it if it was cleaned up.

First of all, the slot enhancers. I don't care what you do with them so long as it doesn't involve them remaining in the parts pool.

Second is melee. To start with, you can get 100 M-C or close to it with just implants. No need to have so many rares, as any pure melee tank could cap it before even being able to use it. Second is you have TL 68, 71, 75, and 84 melee rares. No other weapon class has rares that low. Lowest is Wyatt Earp, which starts at 88. After that rare weapons are 91+. So those four lowest melee rares need to be store bought or dropped whole from boss mobs or just big mobs, or something, so long as they are not in the parts pool.

And then seriously, does any significant number of people use the normal Catharsis and Antibuff? Remove them from the parts pool.

And the machina gloves being parts that you have to collect and build. I guess that's okay. At first I objected, but they are only 4 parts, and L parts at that, and are quite useful. So I guess they are fine. But the rest of the above changes would eliminate a bit less than 50 parts. So that's a start.

I've actually had good luck with getting useful rare parts the past week (first time I've actually persistently hunted rares. Got a hacking rifle spy). Crossing my fingers that I don't jinx myself.

As for tossing the parts out in Plaza. I've actually decided to just keep the parts and build them when I have enough parts, then get my TL 165 barter buddy to sell them at Yo's. Figure I can make a few bucks. 15k is better than 0 I suppose.


Originally posted by Birkoff
They should do something but i think that reducing the drop rate is much more important. YOu ccan get 2-4 rares on a WB these days :/

o_O Um, lol? :lol: What sort of character have you been killing warbots with? Between 20/ and 45/ on my spy, best I've gotten in a week's worth of hunting warbots day in and day out is 2 parts, which happened a number of times that I can count on one hand. Although I hacked this warbot for these two noobs the other week. They were both single digit combat and level ranks x/x. Dunno how long they had been beating on this warbot, but when I hacked it for them (they couldn't hack) it had 3 parts it in. They damn near gave me sexual favors for that. Thought about keeping a part, because who would believe a warbot with 3 parts (Never seen it happen since the nerf patch) but I hate it when assholes come up and gank my shit, so I gave it to them. But yeah, that was the only time I've seen more than 2 since the nerf patch, and even 2 parts is something which rarely happens for me anyways.

Original monk
17-11-03, 11:32
This has been asked a million times before, so lets ask it again: PLEASE pretty PLEASE clean up the techpool, make slotenhacers even storebought yust as veinrippers and paws etc, remove all freezerrares except the thunderstorm and paralysis, (+boost the thunderstorm a very littlebit) and make all ultimamods 3 parts or so :P please

ezza
17-11-03, 12:31
they should move a lot of the current melee rares to store bough, and just keep POb and DG as rare.

slot enhancers should drop whole or store bough also.

oh and remove all those annoying pistol/rifles/psi modules/drones/gloves from the heavy tank rare pool:D

MayhemMike
17-11-03, 13:15
I didn't really read, just pk is teh back =-]

garyu69
17-11-03, 13:27
I think it is fine the way it is.

Quit bitching and moaning that there are too many parts and that those you do get are useless.
If they are useless give me a shout, i'd gladly take them off your hands.


Just remember, they are meant to be rares........

jernau
17-11-03, 13:41
Needs doing NOW :
- Drop Ultimas and slotties whole
- Remove one of the melee stunners
- Replace one of the claws with the rare bat


Then look at maybe :
- Removing all the other stun guns/melee
- Splitting them by mob type ie low techs on WBs, normal on rank 80-100 fire mobs, expensive on 100+ and cave bosses

Archeus
17-11-03, 14:34
Leave it as it is.

Set up a casino in PP with a TP slot machine. You feed it tech parts and get a TP back (or something else, like a medkit or a free drink ;) ). Will help clean out all those apartments of clutter.

Vampire222
17-11-03, 15:01
Eeek, its PK... anyway, i totally agree, if you get a lowtech part, iot can be like 50000 different techparts when ressed

Shadow Dancer
18-11-03, 01:08
I agree. Far too many useless rares.

Jest
18-11-03, 01:17
I don't mind a large rare pool, I just hate a large rare pool filled largely with useless rares that no one will buy or use.

Maarten
18-11-03, 01:20
Don't clean up the rare pool. I don't mind having tons of different parts. Makes it worth being a collector. :)

It only sucks that some rares are of no use whatsoever.
Redesign the Melee TL lineup so the rares go from TL80 to TL115 like other weapon classes.
And balance all the rares. Increase the damage of the Wyatt Earp so it becomes a good alternative to the Libby that EVERY pistol user has/needs.

That's the only thing I want...