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james_finn
28-10-03, 16:30
KK, I think it is about time that you listened to the players that are allowing you to develop this brilliant game. The majority of people are very upset and threatening to leave, as I have posted earlier I think it is time that you guys came up with (and published) an action plan for the furture of the game for the next 6 months (If it will last that long). Just give us a taster of what is to come, including wether you guys have sorted out a new publisher and/or some more advertising, etc. It needs to be done before server counts decrease any more.

I hate seeing only 100 people on a server, it makes me so sad.

There are unrest among the people, and unrest leads to mutiny
:) Just a friendly warning


Delphi
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El_MUERkO
28-10-03, 16:33
:wtf:

We know, they know, your thread like the million others sayign the same thing achieves nothing.

Our only hope is a big budget publisher picking up DOY for a Neocron relaunch.

LTA
28-10-03, 16:41
Originally posted by El_MUERkO
:wtf:

We know, they know, your thread like the million others sayign the same thing achieves nothing.

Our only hope is a big budget publisher picking up DOY for a Neocron relaunch.


which sounds more a myth....

as they rarely update anything in terms of plans, screenies etc

StryfeX
28-10-03, 16:45
Originally posted by El_MUERkO
:wtf:

We know, they know, your thread like the million others sayign the same thing achieves nothing.

Our only hope is a big budget publisher picking up DOY for a Neocron relaunch. Even that's not going to work if they can't get lag and server stability sorted.

I don't think that the servers could handle much more than 600 players on them at a time.

--Stryfe

james_finn
28-10-03, 16:46
Well tbh its if they dont, what can we show noobies that nc is capable of if we dont have updated plans? I love this game, dont get me wrong, and I have spent many hours tryign to find a single copy of the game so that my new friends at uni can start playing it, and they too are addicted. People will play it, but they need to get the advertising and relaunch sorted out.

I know this post has been done lots of times before, but if we keep posting about it then maybe somone in KK will read it and think.....

"Hmm.... maybe we should do something about it..."

A long shot, but then theres always a chance

Delphi

Spy<VS>Spy
28-10-03, 17:26
You see its like this James my boy.

it could probably be said that 4 out of 5 people in neocron, honostly at this point doesnt give a shit about DoY. they dont, what little we heard about it, we honostly dont care. new faction headquarters, maps, maybe some mods...higher textures...shit its a hat trick getting the old textures to run smoothly on a high end machine.

That being the case, i mentioned this a long time ago. its all fine and dandy you cant talk about the new publisher stuff and all that crap. but what exactly did you exspect us to do with your game for 3 to 6 months while you take care of that shit?

answer, jack shit. that was their plan. we'll pay for their DoY all they have to do is maybe once a month when the community REALLY gets pissy have martin or someone rav about how great they are doing and how everyone is just friggen wrong! and blurb about a few things, maybe a screen shot or two to add to the 6 that we have.

and you fan boys will eat it up, keeping your accounts active for 2 more months. sounds like anouther company *cough*netdevil*cough* that i know of.

The saddest thing is, you know what? i love this game. as stated, its a great game...its a little monk heavy at the moment but tweaking in gameplay happens. it alters and flows, who cares. its a great game, it is SO good in fact it really doesnt need some kind of 'add' on.

what makes me REALLY spend allot less time in the game? the bugs. my god people the bugs. i can not tell you how many bugs make me want to eat my cursed CD that came in that evil box. Few people actually know how MANY bugs are in this game, let me tell you...i've been in this game since beta three, i have played and CAPPED every player class and profession in the game and there are 100's of things that just piss me off!

How many people are trading needing things back and forth, giving the right amount of supplys to give to the constructor when just as you put the last part in the window the fucken trade window throws everything back into your inventory!?

That aint right.

How many people have just killed a doy bot, grim chaser or high dungeon mob and just as your about to loot the thing the neocron time goes to 00:00 hours and everything disapears and your corpse never comes back?!

That aint right.

How many newbie droners lose their drones to the aggressor sewers and your damn drone falls into the frigging grating and into the water because that shit isnt completely solid, or your drone gets blown up because the game NEVER tells you the correct health of your drone?

That aint right.

there are bugs up to frikken wazoo, from vehicles, to terrien, to weapons, equipment...i mean god damn it people, to actually get to escordor KK wants up to duck while we genrep so we can even make it THROUGH the genrep.

The game play might never ware you down but the bugs sure and hell did, they widdled my entire clan down of 36 people down to 3. we got tired of half our foces getting fatal run time errors across every zone line or being stuck in synch hell without being able to log in for 15 minutes in the middle of a fight.

they got tired of 'you have to wait a little longer to do that action' or the right click bug to open doors...being STUCK in friggen closing doors.

people are tired of constructing and when they fail their build their BP or some of their parts vanishes and they have to relog to get them back, or after they die your inventory gets screwed up and your main gun turns into a helmet or some shit like that and you AGAIN have to relog.

all this...all this...is only scratching the god damn surface, i shudder to think how many reported, known and utterly ancient bugs i could think of if i just sat down and thoat about it for awile.

it isnt right...screw your DoY KK, your going down the tubes anyways because your game. 'isnt right' to begin with. its a pitty, if it wasnt for the bugs, i'd be swearing alliegence to this game in all its glory, despite its balance issues and stupid half ass implamentation patches for content that isnt tested enough.

LTA
28-10-03, 17:38
/me agrees with spy


It's not doy no more that keeps me as it dawned on me its not gonna be a saviour but prolly just some more high level pvp content with a bit rp thrown in which needs you to kill peeps etc, ibut the peeps i know etc, a long time ago the patch just after the freezer nerf things started looking bright.
But then slowly every patch came with bugs and things went back down hill, now i spend 10 mins each time trying to log and not be in 0,0. 0/0 etc Sync, i am tired of fataling, synching into other peeps aps, become soneone else for like 5 seconds. Tired of launching my drones and them not launching but appearing at my feet later.
I'm tired of running back n forth across zones to leveling spots, tired of El Farid working then not working with each patch, tired that i cant cave because the Faction has every op in the caving zones locked down.
Tired of losing my vehicles for days at a time, being killed by mobs on zone walls because i am syncing, tired of right click bugs.
But stay cuz i have a slight hope that things might change for the better.... certain things in the past combine with new ideas in the future.
You've so nearly had things right kk but then you go out your way to nerf/sledgehammer em and change it into unfun poor things.....

Sorontar
28-10-03, 17:41
I'd much prefer they work on the game they have than the game they 'might' have .......... sort out item tracking so clans don't leave en masse because a bug or hack has wiped their information , sort out synch , sort out lag , etc etc

Develop the game that has so much bloody potential even without DoY.

Zanathos
28-10-03, 17:54
There are 4 things I want done in this order.

1. KK tells us whats going on right now, makes a news post on the webpage and makes a new plan file.

2. Fix the many bugs that have plauged this game. The bug that effects me the most is the damn Fatal Runtime Error bugs. Then theres the random closing of my game. Then Items that look like something else, then trade window bug where all the items come out of the trade window, then random spawning into peoples apartments. Then theres all the other bugs.

3. Sort the damn inventories at the various shops so their in order. Such as, at a HEW weapon shop, All Pistols, then Rifles, then Heavy Weapons, then Drones, then Turrets, then Mods, organize the mods based on Pistol ammo mods, rifle ammo mods, heavy ammo mods, then the energy weapon mods.
Same goes for the trade skill shops, ammo shops etc... Organize each category by TL of the item, lowest to highest. That way its just that much easier to find what you need.

4. Release DoY

El_MUERkO
28-10-03, 18:13
I hate the inventory wobbling bug, trying to implant a helmet cause you see it as your Distance 3 chip is just plain wrong.

Being told KK have a single coder is also more than a little disturbing, I mean how many man hours would it take to fix all the bugs without creating new ones?