Quick Fixes aren't gonna do it, so everyone stop whining

[NS_CHROME54]

Lately on the forums there's been the incredible proliferation of threads saying "NERF THE PPU'S, REMOVE PPU'S, NERF THE APU'S, MORE POWER TO TANKS".

Sufficed to say, it just isn't that black and white. People seem to be forgetting the roles their characters have. PPU's are healers, APU's are the super damage dealers, Tanks are the super damage takers (and closed quarters specialists), Spies are the long range and stealth specialists, and Private Eyes are the run of the mill Neocron citizens. If everyone did exactly that, the game would be perfectly balanced.

To be particular, i'll point out the recent explosion of Moncron. Everyone wants to be a monk. WHY is it that monks do so well in battle? Cause no one else fills their role (except for tanks). PE's go right in there and get blasted by APU's. They should be medium range if they're riflers, and closed quarters, but not alone, if they're pistoliers. Spies should essentially do what they do best ( a) stealth, and b) SILENT HUNTER and other long range combat weapons).

Another thing. Even if everyone were to do this, people would be sure to complain. That's because it's not always fun being a damage sponge or a long range sniper, but think of this: if you all fill your rolls properly, you just MIGHT have a better chance of winning an op war (really what it's all about anyway).

[Original monk]

you are absolutely right but people wont look further then the lenght of there own nose, they prefer in following people that yell NERF the hardest, maybe because it sounds cool to nerf classes ? i really dunno why actually ...

i prefer hours of waiting and preparation to finally snipe someone on a perfect moment then yust running in with that same apu setup that everyone has to start "OWNING" the place :/

roles ? what roles, when people see someone do good in pvp they all rerrol there chars to be the exact same copy of them because they think they will be good in pvp then also... skill ? what skill ? no skill indeed ....

They all wonna be the exact same clone of eachoter, then they go yelling omg the other class is overpowerd yust because they all have the same setup and use the same techniques of attack over and over again.... pitty

we need some more diffrency, in attacktechniques for example, and the more they keep nerfing this game, the less new techniques gonna happen until this game is exactly the same as counterstrike ...

GL

[ezza]

what roles are there to play when 90% of ops battles are made up of monks.

even if a sniper was sniping say the apu from a distance, and omg he actualyl took the apu down, allthat will happen is that about 2 seconds later the PPU resses the APu and he will know where the sniper is.

the battles now just boil down to who has the best PPUs(or the most) even if the PPUs dont like the fact that everyone apart from them is crying for nerf, something still needs to be done.

as a melee tank whats my role other than to get laughed at by other classes?

we need all the classes at a point where anyone in the right circomstances can take another

i know its crap to have people constantly wanting to have your class nerfed, im apu now but used to be hybrid, every time i would come to the board there was complaints about monks, now i wasnt a overpowered uber monk, but having played a number of the other classes i could see that the hybrids were a problem and needed sorting, maybe they should of gone about it diffrently, and hopefully they wont just nerf the ppus or apus that matter, but as it stands they are the most powerfull so everyone will go and play that class.

as it is monks are the most usefull class in combat, as a solo pker i can last a lot longer a a apu monk than with my former heavy tank.

theres a thread Lexxuk has asking for apus to be nerfed, init he said people dont fight much in PP cos they dont have a PPU, and thats a problem when people have to rely on another class to do things.

umm anyway way boost the melee tank;)

dunno if any of that makes much sence but anyway

[WebShock]

omg please!

not another whine about ppu's thread.


there was a point where nc was what it was intended to be. It just isnt that anymore. It's what the player makes of it.

right now there are more people who think that nc is a fps rather than a rpg. thats why you have monks. People want to brag and piss another off.

if this game was played the way it was supposed to be... monks would go by named like..... father john or brother ishmael.

i dunno, PE's would be named Joe ingnamus or something,

not names Like "I like to sex0r droms"... or "apocalyptic doom".

this game has never been played the way it was supposed to

[Xaru]

Originally posted by WebShock
omg please!

not another whine about ppu's thread.


there was a point where nc was what it was intended to be. It just isnt that anymore. It's what the player makes of it.

right now there are more people who think that nc is a fps rather than a rpg. thats why you have monks. People want to brag and piss another off.

if this game was played the way it was supposed to be... monks would go by named like..... father john or brother ishmael.

i dunno, PE's would be named Joe ingnamus or something,

not names Like "I like to sex0r droms"... or "apocalyptic doom".

this game has never been played the way it was supposed to

True spoken. (We need mor content though) But i guess someone just pointed out the real problem here. (Damn, that bugger killed me, i get my other char and pawn him. Thats what i call roleplay)

Xaru

[BombShell]

Originally posted by WebShock
omg please!

not another whine about ppu's thread.


there was a point where nc was what it was intended to be. It just isnt that anymore. It's what the player makes of it.

right now there are more people who think that nc is a fps rather than a rpg. thats why you have monks. People want to brag and piss another off.

if this game was played the way it was supposed to be... monks would go by named like..... father john or brother ishmael.

i dunno, PE's would be named Joe ingnamus or something,

not names Like "I like to sex0r droms"... or "apocalyptic doom".

this game has never been played the way it was supposed to

well 1 reason people think its more like a FPS is because theirs hardly in story behind it. their no story or event that actully follows u while u lvl so u get the full story of the game. believe it or not their r peeps out their that r almost or are capped that dont even know wut is NC about other then ready the game manuel.

wut other reasons we play is to take op wars. and kill each other that is red. i leirned this the hard way RP = Random Pking in this game. becuase u try to follow the story line to get m ore out of the game. but it takes u no were. But even pking doesnt benefit anymore.

we should be able to sell dog tags 5000nc for pking. but then u get peeps killing each other for cash. so theirs really no point

and it is how this game is setup for rpging that people dont relize thay hate it. which is y i think u should do missions for rares and items that would take days to do maybe weeks hell months. and no time delays like comebak in 25 hours and ill hjav it for u. i want to hav a continuous story line. maybe doin missions for cash from npc's but making the reward worth whiled not here is 2 nc