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Saza
20-10-03, 20:00
This is the future i envisage...

Mr. Smith (sorry bout the name I'm not too inventive) walks into Viarossa 1. He has just aqcuired a cheque reading 350,000 NC only after iding a bulk rare job. Feeling pleased with himself he cashes the cheque in at the desk and the money is placed into his bank account. Suddenly the door blows open and a bunch of Twilight Guardian march into the bank. He counts 3 monks and 3 tanks, 2 ppus monks and a spy. They immediately start to massacre the helpless people, even the tellers and guards. Mr Smith dives behind the desk next to the dead body of the teller, and quivers in his hiding place. He sees the monks escorting the spy towards a giant terminal. He pulls out a hacktool and jacks into the system. Suddenly a shadow looms over Smith. A tank stand over him, in full armour and lets loose 10 bolts of X-Heated Plasma into the poor spys brain. As death began to claim him, he felt a familiar (cuz hes a spy) jolt as he is sucked back into the real world. As he is thrown out the genrep, he stumbles around a bit but then regains his senses and checks his wallet. That bloody tank stole some of his money! At least he only had a few bob on hand, the rest being in his account. He recovers his inventory, and find out what item he lost in his quickbelt. Damn! They got his new 2 slot Enhanced Plasma rifle. Too tired to search for another constructorm, Smith exits his Plaza apartment and hands his credit card to the HEW shop assistant and asks for a EPR. The shop assitant realises he is a tangent, and so he is charged no intrest for buying one of his factions items. Smith turns to face the TV...... "Twightlight Guardian struck again, as 3 million credits was hacked from the Viarossa bank. STORM bots failed to capture the hacker, but no official word has been given yet..."

So there you have it. Lets break it down into an easier format

A) When a runner is killed 10 percent of their money is given to the killer, or shared around if there is more than 1. Note - this does not happen in warzones (OP wars)

B) A runner can store his/her money in the Neocron bank, and withdraw it. This can only be done at the bank, not from city-coms

C) Cheque books can be bought from the factions Human Resource Directors, and written out with the persons account code.

D) A credit card is given to all runners. The runner can either use CoH (cash on hand) to pay for items, like now, or use their credit card. Credit cards come with intrest, but that differs depending on both the faction of the runner and the item they are buying. For example, a Crahn gets no intrest on vehicles (and can sell for more if using their credit card.) They get 5% intrest when buying an allied factions products like a fusion rifle from TG. They get 10% on neutral factions items, like tangent weapons and finally 15% on enemy factions items, like FA freezers. (Note, credit cards cannot be lost in belts)

E) A terminal is placed in the Neocron bank. This requires around 150 to 200 hack, and if the hack is failed the electric shock kills the hacker outright. Several STORM bots guard this terminal, and as soon as any one person tries to hack it there soullight is reduced and the bots open fire. It makes sense, thefore to kill the STORM bots beforehand, allthough this will be no easy feat as there will be copbots patrolling and they too will come a-runnin' as soon as the hack starts. The good side to hacking the bank is that it will place a random number of credits from 500k to 10 million in the hackers bank account, depending on the hackers hack skill. (Note this will not be deducted from others bank accounts, its like a slush fund you hack like in swordfish :D )

And thats it. If i remember anything else which ive forgotten ill post it. Comments, improvements and criticism are all welcome, please post.

Benjie
20-10-03, 20:04
Deffinetly.
I've wanted somthing like this for ages. If people are careless anough to carry money around in dangerous places then they should loose it. The bank and terminals are a good idea also.

5 stars

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Except the credit card bit. Although it's a great idea I excpect it's harder to do and would be riddled with exploits. Deffinetly reward PVP victors with cash and implament a money bank though. Also I think one of the S.T.O.R.M bots came up with a safe deposit box a while ago that would be password protected so multiple people could use it. That should be at the bank also. And the hack rewards should vary from 1k to 50k and even perhaps a bit more, but never 10milion. It's just way too much and way too easy, even if there was a 1 in 500 chance, that means every 500th hacker would get 10 million and thats unfair to every other tradeskill and makes the game kinda unbalanced. Plus it would kill tanks.

@ below post. Who cares? I loved the story as it was anyway, and most people don't mplament a story with there ideas. I have posted hundreds of ideas and probabally about 1 story, and even then I think it was seperate.

Saza
20-10-03, 20:06
Ah damn, realised an error :) . It should say a Crahn gets no intrest on Psi spells, not vehicles. Sorry about that, was thinking about NEXT at the time.

Seezur001
20-10-03, 20:15
good ideas, but i think that instead of having a percentage drop they should just bring back cash cubes and have that drop in the belt. Just a random amount of thier cash (this would probablly make it easier on the programer).

We need a bank, some place to store mass amounts of cash, and making a hackable terminal in the bank is a great idea, gives us hackers a reason to be around other than ops.

The only problem i see with a bank is it would probablly get robbed every hour or so. This would make it dangerous just to get some cash out of your account.

And i cant say i like the credit card idea, just seems like too much. If we have the ability to get cash from the bank at anytime, i just dont see the reason for it.

But good ideas all around, to bad we'll probablly never see them ingame. :(

Benjie
20-10-03, 20:18
Cash Cubes=yes, good idea.
Bank=OMG yes!

And the bank should do more than just be a place to store money. Password Protected Storage Lockers are a good start.

Saza
20-10-03, 20:19
And i cant say i like the credit card idea, just seems like too much. If we have the ability to get cash from the bank at anytime, i just dont see the reason for it.

This is to give factions a reason to exist. Honestly, i used to think factions DID something, but now we are fighting faction allies (The Dark Light vs FreedomForce on pluto) i dont see it. I always thought of giving discounts to a runners factions items, then i came up with this idea and interlocked them.

Seezur001
20-10-03, 20:35
Originally posted by Saza
This is to give factions a reason to exist. Honestly, i used to think factions DID something, but now we are fighting faction allies (The Dark Light vs FreedomForce on pluto) i dont see it. I always thought of giving discounts to a runners factions items, then i came up with this idea and interlocked them.

I see your point now, but instead of the credit card, why dont they just implement dicounts at the stores for allied runners.

Tangent runners get 10% discount on tangent weapons
Crahn runners get 10% discount for psi modules
and so on.....

and just cut out the credit card, would make it alot easier to implement.

but now that i understand its a good idea

BlackPrince
20-10-03, 20:38
Hmm...this got me thinking.

Data cubes. Make this act like credit cards and as a means of storing money over the cap. To spend the money you use the datacube until it's balance is '0', and its trashed.

Catch is if you die, you drop the data cube along with whatever would or would not drop in the zone you're in.

Saza
20-10-03, 20:45
Data cubes. Make this act like credit cards and as a means of storing money over the cap. To spend the money you use the datacube until it's balance is '0', and its trashed.

They had these in Beta, they were called cashcubes, no one ever saw the point in them... Me and my bro (who nows plays SWG damn him) thought they could be like an illegal drug transfer, one guy places a bunch of Beast in a gutter, hides in a back alley. Then another guy comes along, picks up the beast and places a cashcube where they were. He then walks off, the other guy picks up the cashcube. It didnt work though, some high level dude came up to it and nicked the cashcube :)

BlackPrince
20-10-03, 20:51
lol

I think some folks would go for it as a matter of storing money beyond the current 18m cap. Have cashcubes purchaseable from vendors in dominations of 10k, 100k, and 1m credits each.

Hey, its worth a try isn't it?

Richard Adregen
20-10-03, 20:53
The cash cubes from beta were removed because, in the event of duping (happened a lot, back then), people had infinite money... Cash cubes of 10s of millions creds were duped and people ended up with billions of cash... good ol' days ;)

RA.

Lareolan
20-10-03, 21:27
Originally posted by Saza
This is the future i envisage...

*SNIP*



Well, nice ideas, there's only one problem. First I've seen most if not all these ideas posted by others a long time ago. And second, none of those ideas STILL made it into the game. Basically you shouldn't expect any *gasp* story or RP in a game that has nothing but PvP and is still incomplete. So why not join me and take the fight down to the basics first. Let's fix the game, then we can ask for more things like what you suggested.

Check out my sig :)

\\Fényx//
20-10-03, 21:31
would bring back a reason to fight people, belts killed pvp in anarchy zones etc..... this is a good idea

wolfwood
20-10-03, 21:45
unfortunetley saza i dont agree, they had a similar cash system in diablo 2 (it worked out fine). The problem here is that you dont get enough money for killing mobs to pay for the lose of the 10 percent.

Marx
20-10-03, 21:46
If you remember to stick money in the bank periodically - then your losses would be minimal.

Saza
20-10-03, 21:52
unfortunetley saza i dont agree, they had a similar cash system in diablo 2 (it worked out fine). The problem here is that you dont get enough money for killing mobs to pay for the lose of the 10 percent.

Yeah, Marx said it. The whole point of the 10% loss it to encourage USE of the bank. I mean if u didnt lose money whats the point in putting ure money in an account?

And the hacking of the terminal is too give hacking a meaning again, instead of OPs. However, to counteract this, I was thinking It would sorta move the market place that is currently Plaza 1 to Via 1, which means that people can stop hacking of the bank cuz, ya know, its wrong :D . And theres a chez sypher right outside, so people can buy beer for everyone else. :) . Now whos up for another round of Powerbooze Gold?

Ryuben
20-10-03, 22:36
you know how HARD 2 storms + cop bots would be :eek: man that would be a clan wide adventure :D:D


FUN FUN FUN


i want

make the bank in NC work ffs

WORK WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORK


/me goes off to bed with splif and empty vodka bottle in hand

athon
21-10-03, 01:18
I like the idea of getting cash for player kills, but the roleplay is out the window. Do you really think centuries from now on a rebuilt earth that they would be using checkbooks?

I believe that in Neocron all money is electronic (probably tracked and transactions made using the RPOS system that every runner uses).

There would also have to be restrictions to prevent the PKing of newbies, who tend to get money quite fast.

I also don't like the idea of going to a bank. Why do we have to do that? There are few if any citycoms in the wastelands (well, there's outposts, but these are often protected by turrets).

You also forget that there would have to be atleast a bank in each of the 'cities' (TH, MB, TG Canyon) as runners who are enemies of CA will soon not be allwoed to enter the city.

Athon Solo

Dissenter
21-10-03, 15:29
Cool Ideas

Maybe then there might be atleast 2 or 3 people in the bank.

Hey isn't there a propper Stock-X in there?

Sefran
21-10-03, 15:45
Nice idea but what if bank bugs? :/

Saza
21-10-03, 20:34
Anyway, you need credit cards because you need to be able to access youre account in say TG, cuz theres no bank there to get it from :D . Also the chequebook idea, i dunno it seems to cool being able to write out a cheque and handing it to sum1, so they can take it to the bank. Ill get an adrenalin rush everytime i write one. out, cuz im insane :)