How to make a Monkey world

[Richard Slade]

Well this game is, as said, monkocron now
I myself refuse to be a monkey more than needed
and I will also always refer the monkeys as... Monkeys
Now for a solution for once?
Well I just might have it
Or I might just be sexxing yet another dead Drom
Well solution?
Yup
Here's one, one that'll work:
Remove the PPU's
Yup you heard me
Instead make specialized APU's
Fire, Energy, Poison
And let them all be able to rezz
That's the only thing I like about monkeys
Rezzing
Other than that, ppl can manage themself damnit!
Every single class and char can use atleast a heal and at times a defl
We don't need the rest.
Up the steel skin to 50% and do some armor twitching
The rest is solved
Now the monkeys will do INSANE dmg but won't survive long
(yes they should NOT be able to use more PPU spells than a tank)
And also they won't be doing fire then poison then friggin energy
(see any other char do all types of dmg?!)
Instead they should have a good variety of spells made for those
dmg types
(Who wouldn't want to se Acid Storm rain down one the world
or a Fire Apocalypse scorch the world, seriously)

Opinions?

[Rade]

I wouldnt mind it. I wouldnt miss heals or shields or any of the
other things ppus have. Then again we wont ever see this
change and you just brought a holy firestorm of flames on your
ass.

[Richard Slade]

Originally posted by Rade
I wouldnt mind it. I wouldnt miss heals or shields or any of the
other things ppus have. Then again we wont ever see this
change and you just brought a holy firestorm of flames on your
ass.

I know
Even though I don't know why
This is the most valid post so far IMO
Since it's a PvP solution and a holy para solution
Also a team solution
rezzing will be there
skills WILL be needed
Fights won't be solved by monkeys
All other classes got their sides of good stuff
And then they will be able to show it
Snipers will be needed since getting close to a monkey won't be
a good deal of fun..
Tanks will be needed since they can withstand some monkey love
And PE's are just around being a little bit of everything.

[Dru Blood]

i totally agree, what should happen is that the only ppu spells are TL3 heal deflector and shelter and rez.
remove monk shockers, and beef up the mellee shockers which tanks can use.

do a skill point release on monks

and finaly we have a perfect class = do insane amounts of damage but poor defence, maybe this is the sollution.

:angel:

[LVirus]

I would so return back to active player if they would do that. I remember in beta's you didn't expect to be ressed in OP fights .. you had to work for strategy, not to run in and scream "HEAL REZZ SHELT DEF BOOST HAS HEAT RIFLE ONEONEONEONE".

KK should fix that specialization to different damage types would rock. Like energy or fire and poison. But because it would be impossible to add another skill (Thanks to KK's shortminded database vision), they should replace mental steadines to firepoison and passive to energy use. aggressive would be renamed to psi control etc.

[Candaman]

i got a idea how about u stfu u can't just kill a entire subclass because u can't kill them and u refuse to reroll a monk because u think its monkocron.

The case that its monkocron is bs the main reason u all think this is because its mainly monks that turn up to op fites. If u saw 20 spy's turn up to a op fite u would laugh. Same with PE's or even with tanks if they had no ppu there they would just end up killing each other.

Its just a case of another stubborn person who is annoyed that he can't go round solo'ing people that have a support char on their ass or even try and kill the ppu.

[Richard Slade]

Originally posted by Candaman
Its just a case of another stubborn person who is annoyed that he can't go round solo'ing people that have a support char on their ass or even try and kill the ppu.

you seriously haven't got a clue do you?
By now 99% of the ppl around here should KNOW
that I'm not into PvP for $5..
Also I'm very eager to balance the game as much as possible
and make this game fun for everyone
I also have a PPU
A PPU who's about capped now.
I wouldn't mind having him released from his pain.
I don't like it.
My monk is God, just as so many other monks.

How about you
1)Keep a good manner and a good language
2)Calm down
3)Do some research before you accuse someone.

Thanks for reading tho,
further opinions in this way are to be pointed to that big EXIT sign.

[WebShock]

Originally posted by Candaman
i got a idea how about u stfu u can't just kill a entire subclass because u can't kill them and u refuse to reroll a monk because u think its monkocron.

The case that its monkocron is bs the main reason u all think this is because its mainly monks that turn up to op fites. If u saw 20 spy's turn up to a op fite u would laugh. Same with PE's or even with tanks if they had no ppu there they would just end up killing each other.

Its just a case of another stubborn person who is annoyed that he can't go round solo'ing people that have a support char on their ass or even try and kill the ppu.

omfg!!!!

and here i thought i was the only one who thought this way!!!

I agree 110%

[Richard Slade]

Thanks for the warning Rade...

[Futureman]

I got a ppu, and i wouldn't mind that if i had all my skill points released. But you gotta admit that things like caves and MC5 would be a lot more difficult. I know it may suck to some people and in a lot of ways i don't like them, but NC seems to have been designed to have Specialized defensive and offensive monk classes.

[Birkoff]

Dude, u play a spy or tank don't you?

I don't like tanks, can we remove them? plz

[ericdraven]

Originally posted by Birkoff
Dude, u play a spy or tank don't you?

I don't like tanks, can we remove them? plz
Hm.. i think as well tanks are boring.. no need for them to be in the game. Get rid of 'em.

[Richard Slade]

Originally posted by Birkoff
Dude, u play a spy or tank don't you?

I don't like tanks, can we remove them? plz

I play PPU mostly ATM, thank you very much.

[MayhemMike]

That ture future man^^ . PPUs are very killable . Only with apus tho =/ . And an APU with a PPU like Ste . *looks at last quickslot* ur screwed!

[Nexxy]

the "you cant kill a whole subclass" bullshit is such bullshit. Anyone remember hybrids...

[Richard Slade]

Originally posted by Nexxy
the "you cant kill a whole subclass" bullshit is such bullshit. Anyone remember hybrids...

Not constructive in ANY way.
But DAMN true!
Thx Nexxy even if u dunn like the solution.

[ericdraven]

Originally posted by Nexxy
the "you cant kill a whole subclass" bullshit is such bullshit. Anyone remember hybrids...
Sure i "remember" o_O hybrids.
As i remember PEs, tanks, spies, PPUs, APUs...

Hybrids never got "killed", just their overpowered nature got killed. They are still viable and just because 99% of them went pure it does not mean this subclass has been killed. :)

[garyu69]

The only thing that pisses me off is the fact that no one will go anywhere without a fucking PPU.

[ericdraven]

Originally posted by garyu69
The only thing that pisses me off is the fact that no one will go anywhere without a fucking PPU.
That's not the fault of the PPU.

That's the fault of the person who thinks "damn, i can't go without PPU, the others will have a PPU".. and the others think "damn, i can't go without PPU 'cause the others will think i will come with a PPU therefore they will also come with a PPU"... :lol: :p

[Dazist]

Good ideas but will never happen :\

[Darken]

remove ppu ?
lol
if KK does that they should make hybrid better again

remove ppus bullshit idea -.-

[Syntax-Error]

I agree REMOVE THE PPU

get rid of it.. it sux (and YES I HAVE PLAYED A PPU)

[Richard Slade]

Wut?! :eek:
Ppl AGREE?
Kewl!:D
Anyways.
Play with the thought for a while
A world without uber buffers
A world where we have to use skills
And only what we got at hand
(Or insane amount of runners of course)
A world where monkeys aren't immortal
A world where even a spy can make a difference
A world WITHOUT PPU

[El Barto]

I very much like the APUs only being able to use one kind of damage :D. Getting rid of PPUs will never happen, I think they hould be kind of nerfed, not so much them, but their spells effectiveness on other people nerfed. Also, get rid of the damn holy para spell! :mad:

[japata]

n00blets, two pistol spies can kill a fully buffed up PPU. Only use my special technique: Draw out an executor and just watch the ppu die in laughter! MUAHAHAHA! Try it out sometimes - it's fun!

[Kazper]

Originally posted by ericdraven
Hybrids never got "killed", just their overpowered nature got killed. They are still viable and just because 99% of them went pure it does not mean this subclass has been killed. :)

hybrids are about as 'viable' as a melee spy

kthxbye

[Rade]

Originally posted by Kazper
hybrids are about as 'viable' as a melee spy

kthxbye

Tell that to Max Twilight and kreal, both are playing hybrids very
succesfully both in PvM and PvP. kthxbye

[Kazper]

and both would probably lose a duel to said melee spy

kthxbye

[Rade]

Originally posted by Kazper
and both would probably lose a duel to said melee spy

kthxbye

Funny, those two are about the only people on pluto that can
beat me in a duel. How about getting the facts straight?

[japata]

Our lovely kreal is truly amazing with his hybrid. Last time I saw him, he had 100+/xx rank. Which means that he's capped his attack spell (probably) and therefore I wouldn't like to step on his toes.

*respect*

[Rade]

Well, kreal swaps PAs to get buffs on and then fight in APU PA,
great for duelling but I dont know how good it would be in
prolonged combat or against people with antibuff etc. Max does it
oldschool hybrid without PAs and have all his spells usable all the
time. In a duel its like this: Kreal does more damage than me and
have good defence. Max outheals me (or several people as long
as he can keep moving, oldskool hybrid style) and grinds me
down.

[ericdraven]

Well Kazper is probably one of those "old" hybrids who can't accept that they are not overpowered anymore and now sits whining in a corner... :p

[Rade]

Kazper was one of the best hybrids up there with .cyl0n & co.
Just fell from grace to me when he left the gang because he
wanted to PK and joined a group of players that are less than
respected by me.

[Kazper]

Being in TR was the most fun i ever had in neocron period, i'm just sorry i didn't join the first couple times i was asked, and btw rade i seem to remember the gang going TG to and becoming the evil pkers as well =)

[Rade]

Originally posted by Kazper
Being in TR was the most fun i ever had in neocron period, i'm just sorry i didn't join the first couple times i was asked, and btw rade i seem to remember the gang going TG to and becoming the evil pkers as well =)

Well, TR, TA blabla whatever name they chose are the biggest
bunch of morons that this game has ever seen imo, theres about
a babillion reasons I can give you but we will just end up in a
flame war about ingame stuff, which wont be liked by the mods
so Im just gonna drop it. And true, the gang went TG, but they
never became evil PKers, they tried very hard to maintain the TG
ideals to show what TG should really be like. I have my own BD
clan now and we kill all reds but also sometimes neutrals and
allies because we are a mercenary/assassin type clan, so I dont
look down on people that play just for fighting or killing, thats not
it.

[Shadow Dancer]

Originally posted by Rade
Funny, those two are about the only people on pluto that can
beat me in a duel.


*cough*

[stalked monkey]

I dont care that monks do insane damage, they should. Its just they do it too fast. WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY(repeat to infinity)
too fast. If you look at most other MMORPGs, most aggressive spells took at least 2-3 seconds to cast, with the big powerful ones takingup to 5 seconds. None of this ZAMZAMZAMDead before your weapon is out and loaded. Double the casting times on all offensive spells (Including parashock) and you basically have solved the entire problem and saved Neocron.

[Ascension]

Well U remove PPU's and APU's have a weak defence then thts ashame.. simply because you wrok hard for ya DS and ya weak defences mean in an Op war everyone targets the guy who does the most damage..

So then you spend the Op war on ya back watchin the stars..

Then Gr out and "Once again" ya DS is taken damage..

So being a Monk i vote no.. simply because the class will slowly but surely die? and Its not fun lyin down in an op war watchin everyone in ya clan go down?

As FF felt tonight;)

Any ways i expect flames for my thoughts so bring it on ;)