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NS_CHROME54

19-10-03, 06:45

Originally posted by sparrowtm
Nothing compares to Baldurs Gate II. Nothing. :)

*sighs*

/me is waiting for BG III, which will be crappy for sure if Bioware follows the trend of their newer games ...

huh? bioware has consistently shown the ability to put out totally kick ass games, even new ones. eg knights of the old republic, neverwinter knights. they won't deviate from something that works, they'll just make it better. and they're canadian :D.

Zokk

19-10-03, 06:57

Chrono Trigger! Best RPG ever. :D

Shadow Dancer

19-10-03, 07:01

Planescape Torment>all

There's no question about it.

lullysing

19-10-03, 07:08

Pen and Paper D&D.

Especially because i used to have chicks ( one with huge knockers) in my group, it was just pure innuendo all saturday long.

sparrowtm

19-10-03, 07:10

QuantumDelta

19-10-03, 07:39

....FreeSpace/2 Single Player (...It's more a story telling game than it is a flight sim imo ......but that might be because I find it no effort to beat the AI on any difficulty :| ), or Secret of Mana if you wanna force me into RPG.

Nothin beats SoM :|

CerealKiller

19-10-03, 07:48

You knew it was coming

Final Fantasy VII

Shujin

19-10-03, 07:50

freelancer is nice

Mattimeo

19-10-03, 07:52

Final Fantasy Tactics.

In depth story, amazing characters, great gameplay...

Followed closely by Chrono Trigger. I mean neck and neck. Like photo finish.

BJB

19-10-03, 08:12

Baulder's gate 2 is extremely tough...imo...although it might be because I suck at those kind of rpgs :p

Torteth

19-10-03, 09:03

Final Fantasy V

Other than that, Temple of Elemental Evil (released not so long ago) wasnt too bad... Pity about the level cap and the few bugs and exploits though... They just dont make em like they used to...

Alex The Great

19-10-03, 10:14

Fallout 1 & 2

Richard Adregen

19-10-03, 10:18

Chrono Trigger and Planescape torment... like 0.0000001 second difference at the finish. Those are both the ultimate games EVER made.

RA.

Breschau

19-10-03, 11:15

Originally posted by NS_CHROME54
huh? bioware has consistently shown the ability to put out totally kick ass games, even new ones. eg knights of the old republic, neverwinter knights. they won't deviate from something that works, they'll just make it better. and they're canadian :D.
NWN may have been one of the better ones for multiplayer, but the single player campaign/game kinda sucked (and totally sucked compared with BG2). If I recall most people who said that were told "that's not the point.. make your own kick ass campaign!".. which is nice if you like making campaigns, but not if you just wanted to play one. I also preferred the graphics in BG2, but possibly just cos my comp. struggled a little with NWN (and the detail was lower in NWN as a result).

I also remember reading an interview pre-release with one of the folks from bioware (forget who, could probably dig it up if I *really* had to) where they said they'd never be producing a single player rpg on the scale of BG2 again. I sincerely hope that doesn't turn out to be true.

Anyhow, my favourite rpgs would be tied between Planescape: Torment, Fallout 2 and Baldur's Gate 2.

Torment for the story and character development; Baldur's Gate I'm not sure why, but it was the one that enticed me to replay it the most (completed it a good 10-15 times now) - i think the epic storyline along with the highly entertaining characters; and Fallout 2 mostly for the atmosphere, but also the choice you had in what you did and how you did it (I'm led to believe you can complete the game without killing anyone besides siccing the soldiers/turrets on Mr Horrigan.. and I completed it without wielding a weapon (not saying I didn't kill lots and lots of people though ;))).

Deus Ex would come a close second, for similar reasons to Fallout 2. I'm just not so keen on the 1st person real time perspective in an RPG, so it loses marks slightly from personal preference there (even if they did it really well).

mdares

19-10-03, 11:26

BG2 is pwnage... i luv that game... played it from top to bottom like 3 times... (took me lotsa time :D)

like what was said, the story was much better than NWN...

SilentGravity

19-10-03, 11:28

Originally posted by Zokk
Chrono Trigger! Best RPG ever. :D

WRONG!

Fallout2 > Fallout > Chrono Trigger > Everything Else

You were close though ;)

FarSight

19-10-03, 11:29

Best CRPG imo (in no order):
DeusEx
Fallout 1&2
Planescape Torment
Elder Scrolls series: Arena, Daggerfall (Buggerfall :D), Morrowind + adons
Betryal at Krondor
Eye of Beholder 1&2 (3 sux)

superfresh

19-10-03, 11:47

I'm religious about NWN. Problem is it's only best in single player or with a group you know, since its so easy to dupe and modify items, etc. Great graphics, flawless & uncrashable engine, decent music which is rare in a game, extreme replayability (you can download & create quests), and I admit I'm a big fan of the original campaign. The expansion is solid, and there's already another on its way.

Plus theres SOOO many ways to develop a char. No cookie cutter styles for each class. I love NC but I think it suffers there. Theres really only one way to build each class at the moment, other than tradeskillers. I'm sure other players will have something to say about this, but, seriously. How many practical variations of the tank are there? Etc.

Lethys

19-10-03, 11:52

Deus Ex
Final Fantasy 7, 8 and 9 (no matter what anyone else says, I hated FF10)
Skies Of Arcadia
Morrowind

Necrosadistic

19-10-03, 11:59

How could everyone froget Morrowind and Daggerfall?

They are both amazing, totally freeform, unlike a lot of other rpg's. I dont't know why, but I found Baldur's gate 1&" extremely boring, with really primitive and childish dialogs between characters.

Fallout 1 & 2 are totally brilliant games, but without all that much replay value, especially the first one.

A game that I would advise all Fallout lovers to check out is Arcanum. It has some of the same designers, and some very original parts as well. You can even have construction skills in it! Its set in a steampunk world of magic and technology, with different races and specializations. Its also quite freeform, and has great replay value, as you have a different game depending on what you specialize in.

http://arcanum.sierra.com/

ElfinLord

19-10-03, 12:05

Final Fantasy IX is my favorite (although FF anything kicks ass, IMO).

I also enjoyed Legend of Dragoon on PlayStation.

ElfinLord

sparrowtm

19-10-03, 12:06

Originally posted by Necrosadistic
How could everyone froget Morrowind and Daggerfall?

First, how could I forget Arcanum ! Played it for weeks ! :eek: I simply love the setting and freedom ...

But Morrowind ... I really tried to like it. I WANTED to like it. But wasn't able to ... the world is sterile, the characters have no personality, the freedom is extended to a point of unrealism (becoming head of a great house, leader of the assasins guild, thiefs guild, fighters guild and mage guild at one and the same time) and ... well, some other things I didn't like.

Oath

19-10-03, 12:17

Not sure wether you meant pen and paper or computer based.

PP rpg
Sla industries followed closely by adnd

Computer based
Final Fantasy 7
Baldurs gate 2
theres one microsoft made that i like but i cant rememebrits name.

Judge

19-10-03, 12:25

BG>NWN :D

Blatantly the NWN single player mission was rather pale in comparison to BG II's. The multiplayer was ok, but I hated the dumbed down 3rd Ed rules in NWN. Either go the whole way or don't do it at all :(

Rith

19-10-03, 12:27

Morrowind - flawed but still 10x better than anything else out there

Deus Ex - too linear but fantastic depth

Knights of the Old Republic - the best from bioware, even better than NVN

Tratos

19-10-03, 12:42

1) Knights of the old republic
2) Morrowind and the expansions :)
3) Final Fantasy 10
4) Final Fantasy 7

...in that order....

which reminds me i think i'll install morrowind again

~T

Zu (Pluto)

19-10-03, 12:46

In no particular order picking three at a time....

Pen & Paper:
SLA Industries (the setting, not those HORRIBLE rules)
Unknown Armies (worth reading even if you never play it)
Tribe 8 (if you ignore the more recent publications)

Computer:
The False Prophet (old, but I loved this one for it's story and world)
Ultima Underworld (again, oldie but goldie)
Balders Gate II (needs no introduction)

Computer Almost CRPGS (but which I consider to be another genre)
Outcast (when I finally got the bugger the work)
Deux Ex (can't wait for IW :))
System Shock (the first one)

Most disappointing CRPGs ever (that I actually played):
Lionheart (why?! why?! why?! don't try this - it's not worth the pain)
NWN (the word never-again springs)
Dungeon Seige (pretty, but there is a game here, right?)

Zu

Opar

19-10-03, 14:03

Final Fantasy VIII.

That storyline is minted.

Cliffraiser

19-10-03, 15:02

final fantasy VI

Kasumi

19-10-03, 15:04

right now its uh.. Final Fantasy X-2 and umm Xenogears/Xenosaga series.. :P

Whiety Bulger

19-10-03, 15:20

Call me crazy but FF2

Mighty Max

19-10-03, 15:22

Am i sick if i'd say Neocron?

....

Neocron!

Omnituens

19-10-03, 15:26

all the FF series bar IX (story was a bit shit)

my materia combos/spell junctioning techinques pwn j00.

Benjie

19-10-03, 16:43

I appriciate that everybody has there own taste.... But come on! DUNGEON MASTER on the stfm is by far the best rpg ever created! Even better than fallout pagan and daggerfall. Even though I love those games as much as you do.

Oh and Final Fantasy isn't a roleplaying game. Not unless you consider MERCS on the megadrive as a FPS. Or Mario as a pluming simulation game. Or sonic the hedgehog as a racing game.

KRIMINAL99

19-10-03, 17:39

Originally posted by QuantumDelta
....FreeSpace/2 Single Player (...It's more a story telling game than it is a flight sim imo ......but that might be because I find it no effort to beat the AI on any difficulty :| ), or Secret of Mana if you wanna force me into RPG.

Nothin beats SoM :|

Hell yeah that game rocked you could actually control what was going on more than select attack mode and friends could play with you.

Fallout 1 was good, but fallout 2 lost the atmosphere (although it did gain more and better items)
Wonder what 3 will be like. Or even fallout Online that would be awesome.

ichinin

19-10-03, 17:42

Originally posted by Mighty Max
Am i sick if i'd say Neocron?

Yes! :o)

just kidding.

I liked Fallout, played that for a few weeks until i finished it.. had a nice atmosphere. Got Morrowind in 2001, also got all expansions and did some mods for it.. i played that alot until ... summer 2003 = when i registered my neocron account.

Yes yes... Dungeon Master was cool. But you got to remember that that was back in the early 90's, why not mention Barts Tale series and Eye of the beholder 1,2 and 3? Not many remember those either.

As for Deus Ex; im just saying one thing; When Deus Ex 2 comes out, i wont be playing Neocron that much :o)

Judge

19-10-03, 18:42

Originally posted by Benjie
Oh and Final Fantasy isn't a roleplaying game. Not unless you consider MERCS on the megadrive as a FPS. Or Mario as a pluming simulation game. Or sonic the hedgehog as a racing game.

lol.... at the risk of being flamed I would have to agree with you benjie.... I always considered FF games as adventure games, rather than RPGs. But they were good Adventure games. :)

Mattimeo

19-10-03, 18:50

Originally posted by Whiety Bulger
Call me crazy but FF2

if you mean 2 for the SNES (as in 4 in japan) then that's my number 3. if it weren't for tactics it would still be my most favorite FF game of all time.

And if you want to get technical about it, almost every game is an RPG. you take on the role of some character and do stuff you wouldn't normally do.

Marx

19-10-03, 19:15

Fallout was much better than the second.

Fallout > all.

"I LIKE TEH DRAGONZ"

:rolleyes:

da_zero0

19-10-03, 19:28

my one are

fallout 2
deus ex
diablo 1
privateer : the darkening 2 ( rpg / freelance )
nwn
FF7
err cant remember the rest of all the good ones there some for sure :D

Omnituens

19-10-03, 20:57

Originally posted by Benjie
Oh and Final Fantasy isn't a roleplaying game
depends on your vision of roleplay is.

If it is where you have to guide a character though a storyline, make them grow, then imo its a role playing game.

in NC we are not forced to commit to a storyline, yet it is still classed as a MMO RPG

using this as a base, we can conclude that any game where you can level up your character is a RPG. be it a FPS or free roaming.

however to make games more appealing, designers have to blur the lines between genres.

Resident Evil: Shooter, puzzle, role play?
Gran Turismo: Racing or Simulation?
MGS: Shooter, puzzle, role play or just 1 uber game?

how we define a game depends on how we play it.

Rade

19-10-03, 21:03

chrono trigger and planescape torment

*ph33r*

19-10-03, 21:05

Deus Ex for sure. Adored this game, shame I never really got into it, because back when it was released my PC struggled to run it smoothly... so it was uninstalled :(

Any good multiplayer mods out for DE? If so might reinstall it... ;)

Benjie

19-10-03, 21:46

Is planescape Torment any good?

I have it and kinda got into it a while back. Somthing put me off though, dunno what. Should I install it again? Whats so good about it? I got to this bit where I had to find some guy. I couldn't find him though he wasn't where he was supposed to be.

Are there any other city's in it?
Do you ever get to leave the city?

Thanks anybody who replies or dm's me.

Dribble Joy

19-10-03, 21:54

BGII

NWN sucked a bit.

I must admitt I really liked Icewind Dale. The setting and the cold, chilly feeling the game ahd was great. All the buttons were of blue and greeny stone textures and seasoned wood. Music was cool, haunting windy and somewhat mystical.
Then they made the sequel even better than the first. A dungeon crawl, but the best dungeon crawl EVER.

Deus Ex. In my opinion, possibly the best game ever.

Benjie

19-10-03, 21:57

Originally posted by Dribble Joy
BGII

NWN sucked a bit.

I must admitt I really liked Icewind Dale. The setting and the cold, chilly feeling the game ahd was great. All the buttons were of blue and greeny stone textures and seasoned wood. Music was cool, haunting windy and somewhat mystical.
Then they made the sequel even better than the first. A dungeon crawl, but the best dungeon crawl EVER.

Deus Ex. In my opinion, possibly the best game ever.
Thats what I thought but I am really getting into the editor. I also like some of the addons for it. There are so many fan made campaigns that are sooo good that it is still a game wirth having.

Now.... Icewind Dale. Good game, but oh my god! How crap was the sequal?

SamuraiPizzaCat

19-10-03, 21:58

Final Fantasy VII
Chrono Trigger
FF Tactics Advance (playin that while LOMing :p )
Neocron (duhhh)

Dribble Joy

19-10-03, 22:00

Bleh, I liked the sequel, hmmmm havn't played the first one for ages...... perhaps I'm wrong.
Plot wise niether were great, IWDII was a bit more straightforward. Big evil horde is gonna kill all the ten-towns, stop it. But the number of places you could go to, was mad, a big adventure.

Martin J. Schwiezer

19-10-03, 22:09

#1: Deus Ex
#2: System Shock
#3: System Shock 2

Rade

19-10-03, 22:11

Hah! I knew he would pass up on talking about system shock.
Sheesh I almost thought he was dead by now, either that or
someone stole his keyboard.

Darth Slayer

19-10-03, 22:12

Originally posted by Martin J. Schwiezer
#1: Deus Ex
#2: System Shock
#3: System Shock 2

OMFG he does read the forum boards yay......:D
Both Fallouts
All Baldurs Gate
Well anything from Bioware really.

Dribble Joy

19-10-03, 22:13

Teh great one graces us with his presence.

Erm.. forgot what I was going to say now... Bah.

Shujin

19-10-03, 22:14

Originally posted by Rade
Hah! I knew he would pass up on talking about system shock.
Sheesh I almost thought he was dead by now, either that or
someone stole his keyboard. he's on litterally almost every day. just because he doesnt talk much doesnt mean he doesnt read ;]

Dribble Joy

19-10-03, 22:15

Originally posted by Rade
Hah! I knew he would pass up on talking about system shock.
Sheesh I almost thought he was dead by now, either that or
someone stole his keyboard.
Perhaps his cat shat on it, so he needed to go and get some rubber gloves t protect his Rolex. And the corner shop was shut for a bit.

Rade

19-10-03, 22:17

Originally posted by Shujin
he's on litterally almost every day. just because he doesnt talk much doesnt mean he doesnt read ;]

Well, he used to be around and chat or comment on changes and
whatnot, I dont think he loves us anymore.

Benjie

19-10-03, 22:17

Originally posted by Martin J. Schwiezer
#1: Deus Ex
#2: System Shock
#3: System Shock 2
Well obviously! Like we couldn't tell We can see the influence in your artwork. :)

Shujin

19-10-03, 22:21

Originally posted by Rade
Well, he used to be around and chat or comment on changes and
whatnot, I dont think he loves us anymore. add him to buddy list, u can see hes on every single day

reading and reading ;] might be reading , talking to devs, reading, talkin to devs ;]

Oath

19-10-03, 22:34

Originally posted by Shujin
add him to buddy list, u can see hes on every single day

reading and reading ;] might be reading , talking to devs, reading, talkin to devs ;]

You forgot 2 things,

Wishing the community didnt bitch about such little things,
and,

despair.

heh poor MJS.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Shujin

19-10-03, 22:35

Originally posted by Oath
You forgot 2 things,

Wishing the community didnt bitch about such little things,
and,

despair.

heh poor MJS.
:lol: :lol: :lol: well if they didnt bitch, you'd never know what people didnt like

and everyone despairs ;]

Oath

19-10-03, 22:39

Originally posted by Shujin
well if they didnt bitch, you'd never know what people didnt like

and everyone despairs ;]

thats true.

Vid Gamer

19-10-03, 23:16

Final Fantasy VII: I consider this the best RPG ever. This is the game that made me like RPG's in the first place and I played it for months and months, even after I beat it. I can't wait for FFVII: Advent Children and hopefully some type of FFVII-2 in the future. Classic.

Xenogears: I never finished Xenogears, but I think I got pretty damn far, and the game while it was confusing, had one hell of a good story and fighting was diverse with fighting with people and the huge mechs.

PS: How did Xenogears end?

ReDim

19-10-03, 23:50

Pen & Paper RPGs
[list=1]
Star Wars RPG 2nd Ed. (D6 rules)
Vampire The Masuerade 1st & 2nd Ed.
ShadowRun
[/list=1]

Computer RPGs
[list=1]
The Eldar Scroll series (Arena, Daggerfall & Morrowind)
Eye Of The Beholder series (EOTB 1, 2 & 3)
the old Dragon Lance series (Champions of Krynn, Death Knights of Krynn & Dark Queen of Krynn(
[/list=1]

MMORPGs
[list=1]
Neocron
Anarchy Online
EverQuest
[/list=1]

Vid Gamer

19-10-03, 23:53

Crap! Totally forgot about the "other" type of RPG's. Morrowind would definetly be on that list.

MMORPG's include Neocron, Ragnarok Online, and SWG.

Benjie

20-10-03, 00:13

Anybody else remember Dungeon Master?

Jaggeh

20-10-03, 00:27

best RPG ever

Bloodwych on the amiga

best mmorpg ever
Ultima online - Pre facet split

Drake6k

20-10-03, 00:47

Final Fantasy VII - best game ever, period
Morrowind - you can do anything and exploration is almost endless

Lathuc

20-10-03, 00:53

arcanum ruled (can't play it anymore my cd isn't working :( )
neocron

i did play morrowind but never relly found a char type i liked so i never finished it

Vid Gamer

20-10-03, 01:05

Originally posted by Lathuc
i did play morrowind but never relly found a char type i liked so i never finished it

Dude, if one of the pre-defined characters didn't fit your type, you could have made one that suited you. lol

sparrowtm

20-10-03, 01:43

Originally posted by ReDim
the old Dragon Lance series (Champions of Krynn, Death Knights of Krynn & Dark Queen of Krynn)

Oh, memories arise ... damn the draconians ! :)

StoneRayne

20-10-03, 01:47

Haha, can't believe I'm agreeing with arc, but yeah,
Planescape: Torment > all

LTA

20-10-03, 02:09

heh my list is to long but a few in no particular order

Deus Ex
Fallout 2
Baldurs Gate 1, Tosc, 2 SoA
Alundra
Suikoden 2
Vandal Hearts
FF 7, 10
Morrowind

Grandia (this is the best, 2 disks rammed solid with game)
Tenchu (i like the role of leet assassin :p )

Lathuc

20-10-03, 02:21

@ vid gamer i always did that eheh

Vid Gamer

20-10-03, 04:48

Originally posted by Lathuc
@ vid gamer i always did that eheh

And you still couldn't find something you liked?

What kinda character type do you like to play? o_O

Birkoff

20-10-03, 04:54

Table top DnD 3rd Ed
and
Deus Ex <-- Best game ever, not just RPG.

Whitestuff

20-10-03, 05:04

Final Fantasy VII Is my first love always and forever. NC is my drug right now though.......

Breschau

20-10-03, 08:16

Originally posted by Necrosadistic
How could everyone froget Morrowind and Daggerfall?

They are both amazing, totally freeform, unlike a lot of other rpg's. I dont't know why, but I found Baldur's gate 1&" extremely boring, with really primitive and childish dialogs between characters.
Just goes to show how widely people's tastes can differ :)

I did't forget Morrowind, but unfortunately I found it to be the one that was extremely boring :/

I get the impression it's the type of game you either love or hate.

Arcanum on the other hand was pretty good. Had some major balance issues, but still good - esp. if you focussed on the roleplaying & theme/atmosphere side rather than the stats and levelling side.

Which brings me off your post to the older games like Dungeon Master (I got a 512k ram upgrade for christmas to be able to play this :D), Bard's Tale (first game I saw running on an amiga.. and after the ZX Spectrums sound effects the monks' chanting blew my 10 year old self away) and Bloodwych (2 players on one machine! omg!) - these were all great games. Classics. But for overall roleplaying experience, I'd not rank them up there with most modern titles. For the simple reason that they had very little story and even less meaningful interaction with characters. Dungeon Master and Bard's Tale had effectively none and Bloodwych's, although entertaining, was largely trivial (Telling a crab "Thou art a smelly bumblefoot" after selling him your short sword was about the extent of it.. ). So great games, precursors to things to come, but not much actual roleplaying or story. Otherwise I'd include Hired Guns in my previous choices :)

Benjie

20-10-03, 20:24

Originally posted by Jaggeh
best RPG ever

Bloodwych on the amiga

Bloodwhich. Wasn't that the first multiplayer RPG? Split screen if I remember.

@ Planescape Torment - I have it. I never got into it due to a brief FPS period where I dismissed all rpg games. Is it still good? Can you leave the city? Whats so great about it? I'm too damn lazy to install the game and find out for myself. :)

Ferabukoo

20-10-03, 20:28

http://www.satanslaw.co.uk/upload/files/lemon.gif

I LIKE THE RPG WHERE THE NAME IS STAR WARS GALAXIES

OH AND THIS FACE O MAN KIND LOOKS PURTY TASTEY

Shadow Dancer

20-10-03, 23:43

Originally posted by Benjie
Is it still good?

Um yes.

Originally posted by Benjie
Can you leave the city?

Yes.

Originally posted by Benjie
Whats so great about it?

Gee I dunno, could it be the ultra fucking fantastic music? The amazing voice acting? The phenomenal plot? The in-depth dialogue and deep characters? The fact that it was the only game every to make me cry? The kick ass end boss? etc.............

Marx

20-10-03, 23:56

Fallout made me cry...

... with pride as I massacred the villages with my .223 pistol.

Benjie

20-10-03, 23:59

Originally posted by Shadow Dancer
The fact that it was the only game every to make me cry?
I cried while playing halo. Nothing to do with the game, it's the damn soundtrack that did it. But then again I have been known to cry at advertisments on tv.

Now for a spin. Worsst sequals or highly rates games ever? I would have to say Icewind Dale II or marrowind. (ooh the contriversy!) I was extatic over the thought to a sequal to daggerfall. When I played marrowind I was like "wow omg! The graphics!! It's like Daggerfall with amazing graphics!!!" and then I found out it was NOTHING like daggerfall. They should not have called that game elder scrolls 3. It's nothing like an elderscrolls game. I don't even think it's a very good game, all you do is wander around and level your character. Leveling up sucks in it aswell, it's like UO. So unsatisfying.