Events,

[trigger hurt]

I'm normally not one to complain. Infact, any event is a good event, whether it crashes the server or not.

The problem is that events are so few and far between that anyone with a normal schedule will miss out on an event when it occurs because the event people "do it when they damn well please". Personally, if we have to wait for an unpaid volunteer to draw up an event, what are we paying for?

My issue is not with ZeroSanity, nor the fact that he picked a really crappy time (for me) to do this event. Several times over, we have witnessed a changing of the gaurd when it comes to storyline writters. Each time, we are promised that 'it won't be long' before we see an event occuring weekly, hell, even bi-weekly would be enough.

Instead, we, PAYING CUSTOMERS, are forced to chit chat in plaza, pk in pepper, have op wars (pointless) or go hunting for parts to not-so-rare weapons. We have begged for high-end content, we we given hard to kill mobs that 9 times out of 10 are a waste of ammo. We beg for high-end content, you give us mobs that spawn in patterns that force us to camp every zone north of tech haven to find, and then the drop isn't that great.

My request is this. There are plenty of intelligent people who would gladly volunteer a few hours of their free time a week to assist you in building events from the ground up. You could form a team out of these people, let them bounce ideas off of one another. You don't have to give these people any power in-game. Just give them the ability to suggest some events that should make it into the game. Hell, make a private/locked forum here for them to use to communicate. But above all, please, don't continue on the path of neocamp.

[Shujin]

*claps*
Like I said in previous thread, many( and I mean many ) people would love to do such things.

had alot more written but I really don't feel like getting flamed over something thats true and some people are just plain ignorant to.

[cobrajay157]

Well i do agree with u. Also what i dont like is all the pking at teh events. I went to the friendly op war at jerikos and there was suppose to be 2 teams, but it just ended up tg coming in and pking and stuff. I feel that most ppl jsut come to the event to pk and not even go along with the roleplaying and the story line that is suppose to evolve with that event. Instead of getting to know and play within the evolving story line as it suppose to go u just get mindless pking. :(

-Hob

[Birkoff]

TOtally agree, the event on saturn 2day was kinda fun :) + i ddint end with -101 SL. More events like that and the game will gets it flare back again :)

Is it comming to pluto? :)

[Shujin]

Originally posted by Birkoff
TOtally agree, the event on saturn 2day was kinda fun :) + i ddint end with -101 SL. More events like that and the game will gets it flare back again :)

Is it comming to pluto? :) heh i got home just in time to catch the end of it, but the end of it was just about 3000 ping and server about to crash until that sudden "cure":rolleyes: u know they only ended the event then bcuz server was about to crash ;D everyone was laffin ;]

[Birkoff]

Maybe... but hell it was fun while it lasted

[ZoneVortex]

me wants more events period

[ZeroSanity]

There will be more events as I stated in a post a while back that you must have missed. The biochips and data disks are for event stuff too. The recent event created about 8 different paths for me to choose in event development. Also, we have over 30 people to suggest new event ideas, there are (I think) 6 event gm's, also the people who played the parts in the event were mostly faction counsellors (6 rp characters in all for this event, 7 counting the stormbot) Finally, I belive you can e-mail playerevents@neocron.com or events@neocron.com (not sure which) with event ideas. However createing events takes alot of experience and are usually not possible. Most players do not understand the limitations of the game system and think somethings happen certain ways when they really do not. I try to adapt event ideas to the best of my ability but sometimes it's just too far fetched to be any fun. And finally trigger, read the list of things you wrote to do, thats actually quite long for an mmo. Plus I'm sure you missed some things. And name another mmo that does live events to the scale of neocron. When will you ever get in a firefight with a gm and win?

Also, I dont have time to do events on the exact time you desire. Events take a long time to prepare (about 3 hours for this one) so you may see a 1-2 hour event, but to us gm's it's a 4-5 hour event. Not only that, most of us gm's have a real job and other important things to do. Unlike many players we do not have 8 hours a day to sit and do neocron stuff. Needing 7 gm's available for a period of upto 6 hours all at once is quite a feet to ask, so any time the event is possible is usually a good time.

I dont know why I post this though, as no matter what I say somebody always complains. Regardless of what is said, I will continue to do events

[Shujin]

*hugs teh no sanity guy

[cobrajay157]

Well ZeroSanity, you and the other GMs just keep up the good work. The events you guys do come up with are cool ideas and keep the game fun. Good job.:)

-Hob

[Shujin]

*hugs teh onesanity again ;[ *hugs again ;O love ya guy, love ya

[KidWithStick]

ive mentioned this before...all they gotta do is let some more volunteers who will work for free do it...

[CarniFlex]

Dont know if this is a discussion thread about events or not but I was wondering if we could have like City faction events and non-cityfactions events. I remember very well how some people were shot and I heard bout rezzkills during this event. It is a bit disturbing to fight alongside a faction you have this feeling probably was responsible for giving those AB the chemicals to make virus bombs.

[trigger hurt]

Originally posted by ZeroSanity
There will be more events as I stated in a post a while back that you must have missed. The biochips and data disks are for event stuff too. The recent event created about 8 different paths for me to choose in event development. Also, we have over 30 people to suggest new event ideas, there are (I think) 6 event gm's, also the people who played the parts in the event were mostly faction counsellors (6 rp characters in all for this event, 7 counting the stormbot) Finally, I belive you can e-mail playerevents@neocron.com or events@neocron.com (not sure which) with event ideas. However createing events takes alot of experience and are usually not possible. Most players do not understand the limitations of the game system and think somethings happen certain ways when they really do not. I try to adapt event ideas to the best of my ability but sometimes it's just too far fetched to be any fun. And finally trigger, read the list of things you wrote to do, thats actually quite long for an mmo. Plus I'm sure you missed some things. And name another mmo that does live events to the scale of neocron. When will you ever get in a firefight with a gm and win?

Also, I dont have time to do events on the exact time you desire. Events take a long time to prepare (about 3 hours for this one) so you may see a 1-2 hour event, but to us gm's it's a 4-5 hour event. Not only that, most of us gm's have a real job and other important things to do. Unlike many players we do not have 8 hours a day to sit and do neocron stuff. Needing 7 gm's available for a period of upto 6 hours all at once is quite a feet to ask, so any time the event is possible is usually a good time.

I dont know why I post this though, as no matter what I say somebody always complains. Regardless of what is said, I will continue to do events

You are missing the point of my post. My post is not to point the finger at the volunteer who puts his free time into making an all-too-needed event. My post is the bring up the fact that, despite a wealth of volunteers, knowledge and ideas of the game, they won't allow us to help.

Thanks for having an event. Even though I missed it, I heard it was well run, except for the lag which always appears when a massive amount of people enter one zone.

[Rizzy]

Well i do agree with u. Also what i dont like is all the pking at teh events. I went to the friendly op war at jerikos and there was suppose to be 2 teams, but it just ended up tg coming in and pking and stuff. I feel that most ppl jsut come to the event to pk and not even go along with the roleplaying and the story line that is suppose to evolve with that event. Instead of getting to know and play within the evolving story line as it suppose to go u just get mindless pking.

-Hob



That is SO ironic coming from that forum account. I didn't witness any TGs going pking mindlessly, perhaps they were just killing you because of who you are.

[Mankind]

Originally posted by Rizzy
That is SO ironic coming from that forum account. I didn't witness any TGs going pking mindlessly, perhaps they were just killing you because of who you are.

I was thinking the same thing :)

[Original monk]

i went to the troopcarier event, genrpped to oz station to find myself getting shot at with a 5 slot blacksun, had to genrep back, 50 synaps and 20 hp :/, np i let a mate guard that genrep and come back in :P to enter oz, i go outside to synch every 4 seconds, i see some action and join in but evereyone fatals cause of the number 98685478769 error and i relog with a catharsis sanctum out, i get automatticaly spawned infront of 2 stormbots and its game over for me :P why ? normally a ppu monk should outheal 2 stormbots ya see. Cause i couldnt buff myself, nor heal myself caused to synching and giant lag spikes. Ok im very happy there are events but im mostly not that lucky and die fast cause of idiotic reasons like them stormbots :) Also i bought a biotechsignaturechip datacube, i hope i didnt get ripped off and that is actually worth sumthing :) gl playing, and dont get me wrong i would love more events ffcourse :)

[Shockwave]

Quick question, ZeroSanity: Will you be running your AB event on Pluto, and if so, and idea roughly when it's likely to be please? This is the sort of thing I would tear myself away from SWG for! :D

Shock.

[El Barto]

I'd lvoe more events :D

[cpl101]

Its interesting you say that, I've nearly capped my spy and now have the cash to give decent rewards for player run events, but no one is interested. I advertised it earlier (it was a live run of sorts based on a new chip being developed by Biotech and NExT in order to lower the reqs for the trikes. It had a decent story, and I got enough volunteers to make it viable. So I posted it on here and on the Event forum and announced it in game. I got told i was a "fag" for trying to bother and had a mightily impressive 2 responses.

I have PLENTY of ideas for this sort of event, (like the Tsunami Syndicate starting a porn ring and throwing thier material out in plaza 1, obviously the winner is the one who mentions lexx and droms ;)) kind of like an epic but player run and with decent ish prizes, but no one is bothered, if there is interest i'd love to try but it doesn't seem forthcoming. If there IS interest i'll do it again, I'm on pluto you want an event mail me and i'll dm u when they start.

[kublai]

I'll happily pay more for NC if you want to pay someone to do this im sure quite a few ppl could handle a few £'s more a month instead of a pint or 10 pack of fags. In fact pay me £1 for per subscription a month and i'll come up with loads of ideas :D

well you get my drift :)

I play on Venus now and love seeing the pink writing with GMs talking to the community ingame RP. Even if they are just dissing another faction counsellor its cool :D

[ZeroSanity]

Venus has it's own set of gm's and own set of rules. We dont touch that server.

[Syntax-Error]

ye and those GMs get payed....

i mean whats the deal with that. how much rights dose that company own?

[Heavyporker]

I didnt get to see the event, though I live on Pluto.

cp101 also has the right idea. players HAVE to take up doing events on their own. I been slowly building up simple ideas for small, fun events. I too, am nearly capped, and independently wealthy (cp101 -check my bank balance again ;) you got some work to do :D )

Zero - while your events sound awesome, and while my particpation in a live run was quite entertaining... perhaps you can redo events to strain the servers less and take up less GM time and shut people up (because they didnt deserve to be in event or they weren't paying attention when you called out for volunteers)...

Simple enough premise: Set up the event story so its in "chapters" and takes two contrasting positions (this helps organized events and clarifies positions of factions). Then line out 3 or 4 chapters to be done within a space of time. Then call up two gms - they will recuit and order around a team of runners (of course, this means they have to pay attention to factions). Then they play the teams against each other or concurrently in a common interest. This means you can advance the event, and still have the server stay up because the teams would be ruunning around in different zones at same time. Occasionally they'll intersect, but 16-25 ppl is much better than 75 ppl in one sector.

Basically the event would be just a , longer live run... But at least it won't require concerted efforts by 3+ GMs for several hours. I think :p Just have everything arranged up and objectives clearly listed... and if anything goes pear-shaped, blame the runner teams :D :P

[kublai]

i think i may not have made my point clear :)

Pay the GMs !!

I will gladly have the subs for my 2 accts increased if it means more RP.

Before anyone argues....Get a paper round :P

[QuantumDelta]

Originally posted by Syntax-Error
ye and those GMs get payed....

i mean whats the deal with that. how much rights dose that company own?
The rights to market Neocron in some parts of Canada and in France, and to run the Venus server storyline and events seperate to ReaKKtor's Neocron.

I believe their GMs are employed and given much closer organisation, while KK are actually more focused on Game Dynamic modification due to the differences in the community (mainly due to the difference in AGE in the community and which points they entered the game).

French people entered an almost balanced game with few bugs, and therefore only really want storyline content, while the Ger/UK/US/etc community are focused on very finely tuning the balance of the classes.

If we yelled more about storyline and such, and completely went quiet on the bugs front, I would suspect you would find KK making a much more organised attempt at trying to get GMs to actively work in the game for the storyline, rather than bug support, which is the primary job of the GMs at this time.

They would probably also consider paying, said GMs.

[Arbiter]

The Anarchy Breed didn't happen on pluto yet.

If you want to bring in storyline ideas, you can contact your faction counsellor or use gm-events@neocron.com or playerevents@neocron.com (both work, if you are german you can also use .de instead of .com). The counsellors are always happy to get some ideas from runners for events.