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BJB
11-10-03, 09:42
Is it just me or did this patch make the synch errors much worse? I get them so much more...as well as when I get that crazy serverside reposition thing...that moves me into to nowhere then boots me. :( Anyone else noticed anything more often?

Matthew.v.smith
11-10-03, 09:44
Since the patch was released.

I ave nothing to fault neocron with.

Only 1 Fatal so far.

NO LAG hardly.

Good FPS.

No unknowns.

No Sync problems.

No random placement.

Matty
:angel:

KK ro0l with this patch.

BJB
11-10-03, 09:45
All that you said...got worse for me. =( Although...lately my computer in general has been "laggy" and I dont know wtf to do lol

Matthew.v.smith
11-10-03, 09:48
Well i remember some things which may help a lot.

First Do the System Tools : Disk Cleanup.

Then De frag (Takes ages)

Then Do u use Auto updater?? if so there is a file which Causes SEVEER slowdown to your computer and u have to get rid of it.

I did and saw a speed increase (i forgot it but can search it up for u if needed)

Matty
:lol:

BJB
11-10-03, 09:49
Yes I have done de-frag and all that good stuff...although I do have auto-update on....hmmm mhhmhmhmhm mm....sounds intresting hopefully thats the problem =\

Omnituens
11-10-03, 09:50
i noticed zoning takes a little longer than usual

and i get the constant sync yet logged in bug a bit more often

Matthew.v.smith
11-10-03, 09:50
Hmmmm well.

Gimme a second to look it up but i know u need to go into Add/Remove files

Then locate all the updates.

And i will look now.

Matty;)

BJB
11-10-03, 09:50
And did you mean, you look it up? If so...yes plz! =-)

BJB
11-10-03, 09:52
Oh and, the lag on my computer is more in intervals...like if I move the mouse around it will go fine, lag, go fine, lag, etc etc and it switches like every 5 secs or so

Matthew.v.smith
11-10-03, 10:01
Hmmm.

Well i cant find the sight yet (it was a System shock 2 Forum thread:eek: ) but i posted on the forum and hopefully someone will get back to me.

If could actually help if u copy and pasted your file names onto this thread so i can locate the buggy 1 from my pile :)

i only have about 10 so it wont be hard to find.

Matty.

I suggest u turn off windows update personally because u get updates on when a new thing is out.

Well mine is off :)

BJB
11-10-03, 10:03
Where might I go about getting a list of my files? =\

Matthew.v.smith
11-10-03, 10:05
Go to My computor.

Control Panel.

Add/Remove programs.

Then scroll down untill u see things like Windows HOTFIX (686858) blah blah blah.

And copy and paste about 15 starting from the top so i can match up against mine :)

Matty.

Archeus
11-10-03, 10:07
check your machines for trojans, or background stuff runnning.

I get what you mention when the Virus checker is running.

Mantus
11-10-03, 10:08
Havent had a fatal for two weeks now. Running very smoothly.

BJB
11-10-03, 10:08
hmmm...I only got one file likee that, windows98q(weirdnumbers)update lol

BJB
11-10-03, 10:09
I think I got something on my comp...I need to know how to fix it :( also whenever I play music its laggy as well...mainly realplayer but it happens to other things as well. =(((

Matthew.v.smith
11-10-03, 10:09
hmmm your running under Windows 98?

hmmmmm


Maybe have u updated your Vidio card recently?

or maybe got a new 1?


Matty.

BJB
11-10-03, 10:10
Arch what could I use to check for trojans/Background progs, do you have a link?

Matthew.v.smith
11-10-03, 10:12
Ehhhrmm.

are you sure u havent installed TO many programs on your comp??

Because if u have and still have some free space (even if its a lot)
it can cause instability and also if u have only just started getting this problem have u recently installed anything??

if u have and dont mind doing it.

Try uninstalling and see if that helps?

Matty:angel:

BJB
11-10-03, 10:12
Nope...no new video card soon and I havent updated it...

Matthew.v.smith
11-10-03, 10:13
Lemme dig up a link for trojans.

Matty:cool:

BJB
11-10-03, 10:14
hehe kk cool, umm also (not sure if this is breaking any rules...) but I got kazzalite running on my comp. Well I use it. Thought that might be a needed piece of info although I could be wrong :D

Edit: Gonna start unistalling some stuff right now

Matthew.v.smith
11-10-03, 10:17
Try www.lockdown200.com

or www.networkice.com

they stop and locate attacks and also scan your comp for trojans :)

Matty:angel:

Archeus
11-10-03, 10:18
Originally posted by BJB
Arch what could I use to check for trojans/Background progs, do you have a link?

Anti-Virus program.
Ad-Aware http://www.lavasoft.de/
Make sure your all patched up
get a firewall (Zonealarm has free version)


quick way is to open a DOS box and type NETSTAT -a
It will tell you all your open ports and who is connecting to it.

Matthew.v.smith
11-10-03, 10:19
Aha!

You may think Kazaa light is spyware free

but most of the time it isnt.

I reconmend running a Spyware Scan to get rid of and Spyware on your PC

this can cause Lag,comp slowdown , and unstable files.

U might have found the problem.

i will find u a tracker for spyware

Matthew.v.smith
11-10-03, 10:27
This looks like a good site.

Check it out and scan for spyware on your HD.

If that dosent wrk then we have to think or something else :P

http://www.megalithusa.com/

Matty.:angel:

BJB
11-10-03, 10:30
Its not working...I clicked it but it just sits there

Cryotchekk
11-10-03, 10:30
Originally posted by Matthew.v.smith
Since the patch was released.

I ave nothing to fault neocron with.

Only 1 Fatal so far.

NO LAG hardly.

Good FPS.

No unknowns.

No Sync problems.

No random placement.

Matty
:angel:

KK ro0l with this patch.




omg i have had so much of that.
though only like 1 fatal, but loads of unkowns, sync problems, and random placement

BJB
11-10-03, 10:32
Same here! Not many fatals at all..if even two but loads of the other stuff.

Matthew.v.smith
11-10-03, 10:32
What sits their?

dont get ya m8?

Matty:angel:

BJB
11-10-03, 10:33
When I click scan now or whatever, nothing happens =\

Matthew.v.smith
11-10-03, 10:34
Search for Spyware Removers on google.

What spyware does is up load a load of browsing info from your computer the Kazaa Computer meaning u suffer sudden lag as your computer uploads and once it starts the uploading this can boot u out of neocron or cause Neocron to fatal cause of instability.

so get rid of that spyware and it might run smoove :)

Matty:angel:

amfest
11-10-03, 10:35
heh .. . hit ctrl+alt+del and count how many tasks you have running at one time .. maybe check through the list to see if there's something in there that you dont' really need .. . try closing them one by one and check how your computer runs after each one is closed . . . .

Matthew.v.smith
11-10-03, 10:40
Hmmm i doubt that would be causeing all the crap that he is gettin.

But spyware could be it.

Thats why i dont use things like kazaa..... too risque.

it constantly uploads browsing habbits and data that has been receved by your modem meaning that sudden lag just exploads
and makes u slow to a halt almost.

while this is taking place your computer will get freaquent halts untill data is uploaded boom 2 mins l8r it will happen again.

this can prevent sever info being shifted to your modem meaning Unknowns and lag can occure more often.

if your running 56k modem your even more affected because u get such bad updateing that its bound to be causeing fatals as your modem suddenly stops updating neocron and moves to spyware thus booting u out.

it will happen even on your desktop and when you connected to internet.

Matty:angel:

BJB
11-10-03, 10:44
I got dsl, also just found 3 things of spyware, and unistalled some crap...Im gonna re-boot and see whats what and Ill get right back to ya =)

Matthew.v.smith
11-10-03, 10:45
Exciting time :)

I hope that helps.

If not time for next option :P

Matty.

P.S) Try to limit the use of ANY kazaa things or use and then scan for Spyware after ^^

Matty.:angel:

BJB
11-10-03, 10:49
hmmm so far it appears good...no lag...although this might just be because of re-boot Im not sure. But it seems good, Ill try playing some music hehe

BJB
11-10-03, 10:51
hmm I noticed a small hint of lag right now...could theme songs be the cause of it possibly? Like a desktop theme ya know? Edit: Oooops I mean like the lil sounds it makes when opening things, minimizing, etc etc...

Matthew.v.smith
11-10-03, 10:52
well my startup theme is from Resident evil

and it stutters sometimes but i just ignore.

Im playing music right now and have been for ages :)

Matty.

P.S) its fine for me.


Well the first time u right click u always get lag its no bad thing just dont sweat it :)

connect to internet.

BJB
11-10-03, 10:53
hmmm ok, it SEEMS fine for now...just curious what was your next option? lol

Matthew.v.smith
11-10-03, 10:54
well try it out do0d (Neocron i mean) and if its still laggy
get back here and tell me.

Matty.;)

BJB
11-10-03, 10:56
Ah, good idea lol brb =)

BJB
11-10-03, 11:02
Hmmm the lag appears about the same maybe a little less. But that wasnt really my problem, it was more the Synch errors, and servisde re-pos, and not being able to click or move anything.

Matthew.v.smith
11-10-03, 11:03
And have u sync errored?
or fataled?

BJB
11-10-03, 11:08
hmm, just got the same bug I always get...*not being able to click/move ANYTHING!* bah it all, and I thought this wouldnt happen anymore =\ oh and evuntully this problem leads to synching

Matthew.v.smith
11-10-03, 11:09
hhhrmmm.

Ok plan B.

i highly doubt this will do much.

But go to options on Neocron Main menu.

and try adjusting them

maybe its to much data to shift :)

Matty.

BJB
11-10-03, 11:15
Ok changed a few things, now sitting afk, cause it ussualy happens faster when I am afk

Matthew.v.smith
11-10-03, 11:16
ok well u know what to do if it dont wrk

BJB
11-10-03, 11:19
what do I do?

Matthew.v.smith
11-10-03, 11:19
ask me for plan C of course :P

BJB
11-10-03, 11:23
Well so far it LOOKS safe...all I did was change...errm I forgot but it was on software and I changed it to hardware...or maybe it was vice-versa lol

Matthew.v.smith
11-10-03, 11:27
ahhh i c.

Mybe your Vidio Card diddent support Software :)

also u might wanna change some Ingame options.

in your RPOS click options and see if u can arange some stuff :)

Matty.

P.S) im here to help if u need more :)

BJB
11-10-03, 11:29
d&d t&l...it was on, think I should turn it off?

Matthew.v.smith
11-10-03, 11:30
if its on u get more Foliage and shrubs in the wastes.

This can cause lag but imo i think if its off it makes the game look drab.

Experiment in wastes and see what u think :)

Matty:p

BJB
11-10-03, 11:34
wow still no boot...I think this might of worked...

Matthew.v.smith
11-10-03, 11:37
hehe am i magic:p .....erm no nm :P

hehe hope it goes well.

Matty:lol:

BJB
11-10-03, 11:39
Still doing good...Im gonna leave it on...while I get a few hours of sleep...should of been sleeping sooner lol oh well, Ill post in the morning what happened =) Lets hope for the best!:D Also I must say, THANK YOU! Even if this dosent work thanks! You gave lots of ideas and stuck w/ it :p good job

Matthew.v.smith
11-10-03, 11:44
hey No probelm :)

Anytime u need help ask me :lol:

Now go get some sleep.

Matty.:D

BJB
11-10-03, 12:31
Boooo it didnt work =( I couldnt sleep and got up..and dun dun dun =(((( sleepy time...