View Full Version : Psi Int at 50% ? sure ?
I haven't made the test using numbers, but i don't feel like int is raising faster since the last patches ? could 189/190/191 patches miss the feature ?
I heard that it hasnt been put up to 50% raise.....something like 50% of the old %....
e.g lets say the old % was 20%, then one day, somehow, kk realise its way to slow, they add the 50%....which doesnt increase it to 70% but to 30%....so 50% of 20% = 10%, thus its been increased to 30% (20% + 10%) :p
that seems about right...
it was said (thanatos?) that the int exp modifier was what was changed... apus still get the shaft but i think ppus are better now for somereason... i lvled with a ppu and i got them 2 mil int exp in 1 cave run; i myself got 400k o_O that and tradeskilling seems to get good exp now via pokage...
the old was 33% and it feels to me as if it is going faster
well yeha it is much faster than before but its still not fast enough...
Disturbed021
08-10-03, 01:29
Yup I think Alig explained it.
They never said (to my knowledge) how much they upped the Monk Int gain. They simply stated it got a "Slight" increase which could be any number :rolleyes:
I do know from experience that it has been increased, not as much as I would have liked, but it was increased as they said "Slightly". My Monk that was started post 189 has a PSI level of 87 and Int level of 71 just purely combat based.
Pre-189 it would have been more like 87 PSI to 60-65 Int.
Shadow Dancer
08-10-03, 01:45
Yea it's faster, but still crap.
I dunno...I can get an int level every 10 minutes to a half hour to an hour if I wanted to. With this in mind, I think the int exp upper kicks ass. :cool:
Shadow Dancer
08-10-03, 02:04
Originally posted by Kenjuten
I dunno...I can get an int level every 10 minutes to a half hour to an hour if I wanted to. With this in mind, I think the int exp upper kicks ass. :cool:
O_o
You mustn't be reffering to the high levels................
On my monk the INT xp is only 40% of my PSI xp. Never lom'ed
So i would asume that if PSI xp speed = 100%
Then INT xp speed = 40%
Do you want me to spend an entire weekend just upping my int, Shadow? Because I will, and see if I can still level int every 10 minutes to an hour.
...
I actually like the idea, thanks m8. ^^
By the way, my int is currently like 35, and I can still grab an int level every 10 minutes. I put up the hour max because I'm being cautious.
lol...are u being serious? are u apu or ppu?
u cant get an int lvl every 10 mins - 1 hr after about 80, and thats a stretch :p
Hybrid. :cool:
Also, whenever I joke about something, I try to make doubly sure that people can tell whether I am. So yeah, I'm serious. For now. ^^; Keep in mind that I'm only Int 35 atm. My data holds true though, my lowest time to earn int levels (which was in fact a level before 35) is 10 minutes. My average time used to be 20 to 30 minutes per int level. Now it's 10-12 minutes flat. But I did some tweaking to my character. Right now I'm 12/28. :cool:
Originally posted by Kenjuten
Do you want me to spend an entire weekend just upping my int, Shadow? Because I will, and see if I can still level int every 10 minutes to an hour.
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I actually like the idea, thanks m8. ^^
By the way, my int is currently like 35, and I can still grab an int level every 10 minutes. I put up the hour max because I'm being cautious.
Like shadow said your not on about higher lvls say that when u have 75 int :)
my monk has 78 int and 97 psi and its still a bitch to get a lvl
when i was int 35 i could lvl int 3 times in a cave run big deal its easy at low lvl :)
Lol, he dosent know that you need 10 mil Int per level at the top.
Cant wait to see his face. :p
10 million exp per level at the top? My face is estatic, actually. =)
Let's see...based on my current exp gain with int...
I could get 1,200,000-1,800,000 int exp per 10 hours.
Meaning it would take 55 to 83 hours of gametime to earn a level. 4-5 days, a week at most.
Here's something I didn't say earlier though. I'm not using the best method of earning int exp just yet. In fact, I think I'm using a relatively shitty way of earning int exp. I'll check into certain things later.
If I wasn't overloaded with college work, I'd start my int exp a-thon tonight instead of on the weekend.
ericdraven
08-10-03, 10:02
Kenjuten, calculate how long it will take you to cap INT (that's 172.354.944 XP). :p
And yes, INT gain of monks got increased BY 50% (from 33% to 50%).
That's what you get for TRADESKILLING.
For using PSI it's around 18% now.. it still suxx, but better than before, of course.
yes it goes faste but not fast enough is was huntin yesterday with another apu...
take me from psi 97 to psi 98
to lvl int from 79-80
i mean DAMn isnt that sad ?
how the hell are we ever going to get on 156 mill ??
i bet you 1 million CR that you cannot get from 99 INT to 100 in an hour - starting at the lowest exp possible for 99 INT
you pay me if you are wrong.
I'm ppu psi99 almost 100 (6millions and i'm capped)(pure I mean) and int 86, I think I still have to Xp a lot if I want to fully capp my character lol :p
Well, the INT exp gain was increased as I was after LoMing something like INT 71, now I'm INT 81. So that's 10 lvls I gained after the patch. PSI is now 97 and I'm gonna cap psi before I get to INT 85 :\
Kinda sad as I'd love to use heavy belts while leveling.
// Wannabe
Eledhbrant
08-10-03, 16:18
I know someone who started an apu monk, he wanted his dex as he was leveling so he took poke skill 81 to begin with and got a moveon, now he has capped DEX, 47 INT and 23 or so PSI last time I checked o_O
Actually, Int experience has increased, where you're going wrong is thinking that 50% of the experience you get using your psi attack get's added to intelligence, it really works like this:
Say you get 300 experience for one shot on a Grim, one third goes to intelligence, two thirds go to Psi.
As the Psi experience modifier is 100% you'll get the full 200 experience in your Psi.
However, since Int's experience modifier is 50%, you only get 50 experience. This is, however, a 17 experience points improvement on the previous 33% modifier.
Or to put it differently; 66% of the experience gotten by using Psi goes to Psi, while 16.5% goes to intelligence. (That counts for Psi Monks only)
Edit:
This change get's more noticable as you play longer though; for 30,000,000 experience for example, you'd get 5,000,000 experience in intelligence, instead of 3,300,000.
Edit Edit:
Also, teaming experience, as far as I'm aware, doesn't follow these basic rules, though I might be wrong.
i got 2 int levels y esterday on my ppu... and only 1 psi level. before the patch i was getting psi levels faster than int. i was leveling with 2 spys though... so that could have been it
Clothing_Option
08-10-03, 17:24
Originally posted by alig
I heard that it hasnt been put up to 50% raise.....something like 50% of the old %....
e.g lets say the old % was 20%, then one day, somehow, kk realise its way to slow, they add the 50%....which doesnt increase it to 70% but to 30%....so 50% of 20% = 10%, thus its been increased to 30% (20% + 10%) :p
I agree
the new lvl isnt 50% of PSI but 50% of the old #
and it still aint that fast but is a definate improvement
It is 50%, it's like J. Folsom explained it. The int xp modifier for the monk class was 33%, and the int xp modifier for apu spells has its own modifier. The class modifier has been increased to 50%, but the spell modifier is the same. So you should see a minor increase from spells, but the best way to take advantage of the change is to team.
CRAIG DIGGERS
08-10-03, 18:24
The int gain of monk is quite simple.
What happens if we have researcher/barter monks with using themself supportbuff 3 / cst buff 3
2 really nice kind of spy trade skillers die.
A monk will be hard to top with a nice int gain cuz a apu / ppu team levels so fast with barrels....
I stopped play for exp at base 89. Its enough for me to wear all heavy belts.
:)
Anyway i have all in psi use 208 around :D
Hm. At my current form, I could cap my int in less than 1,000 hours. That's 41 days in 24-hour sessions, so I could take a stretch and say two to three months, depending on how heavy my college workload gets.
Again, I'll state that I haven't been doing the best form of earning int exp yet. =P
Also, evs, about that statement about getting from Int 99 to Int 100 in an hour, I said at current it would most likely take me an hour to get from one int level to another. And since it just takes me about 10 to 12 minutes to earn a int level at current, the hour thing was a projection for the later levels, say from Int 50 to Int 70. I'll search you out as soon as I get Int 99. :) Not that I'll need a million CR by that time, but you proposed it, after all.
ericdraven
09-10-03, 00:06
Originally posted by Kenjuten
I'll search you out as soon as I get Int 99. :) Not that I'll need a million CR by that time, but you proposed it, after all.
Forget it. There is NO WAY to make 15 million INT xp in one hour, as monk.
I can tell there isn't. I want to see how fast I can get it though. =)
Kenjuten....i hope to god that u like the look of padded, circular rooms cuz thats where u will end up thinking like that....seriously :p
I recently started a new Psi.
After a while I looked at my stats and INT was exactly half of my PSI. So yes.
Originally posted by Cass
I recently started a new Psi.
After a while I looked at my stats and INT was exactly half of my PSI. So yes. That'd only be right if the amount of experience needed for each level was the same, it's not.
If you check your experience numbers, and you've only been using APU spells for int levelling, the experience points in inteligence should be around one quarter of the amount of points you have in psi.
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