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Jaggeh
02-10-03, 14:55
ive gad 5 parts since sunday

Hull core Tech Frame Comp


WTF OTHER PART DO I NEED
i been asking for ADD tech, and people tell me its ADD hull
please for the love of god someone tell me

(and if you have one on pluto gimme gimme gimme)

hinch
02-10-03, 14:56
think i gave you my only revenge part darling

\\Fényx//
02-10-03, 14:59
What TL's the drone ?

If its 6 parts its got a add tech, if its over TL 115 then its 7 parts and also has a add hull...

ericdraven
02-10-03, 15:05
IIRC it's TL93 so five parts should be enough - did you actually try to construct it and got an error message?!

Jaggeh
02-10-03, 15:05
tried construction right after 5th peice, as im not a fool and TL93 is supposed to be 5 peices.

but it wouldnt build.....

QuantumDelta
02-10-03, 15:07
SSC has a could revenges.... don't know if we bought'em or built'em, I'll ask around when I get back...I'm off out now though :p

ericdraven
02-10-03, 15:07
Originally posted by Jaggeh
tried construction right after 5th peice, as im not a fool and TL93 is supposed to be 5 peices.

but it wouldnt build.....
Strange.. that would be the first rare which doesn't follow this rule..

Archeus
02-10-03, 15:09
maybe your inventory is scrambled again?

\\Fényx//
02-10-03, 15:10
Sure you had the tool and all 5 parts in the process window ?

No extra parts in there ? not got any mixed up O_o

Anyway....gl

Jaggeh
02-10-03, 15:14
i got another cst to try


....................Perfect Revenge
damage 118 handling 120 Frequency 113 Range 116

Vampire222
02-10-03, 15:20
uh oh.... im running for kami drones now

ericdraven
02-10-03, 15:32
Originally posted by Jaggeh
i got another cst to try


....................Perfect Revenge
damage 118 handling 120 Frequency 113 Range 116
no slots? o_O







:p

Jaggeh
02-10-03, 15:40
Buffed ppu - 150 dmg
buffed ppu + holy heal - 110 dmg
APu at about 5 metres - 150 dmg

:D

\\Fényx//
02-10-03, 15:44
Originally posted by Jaggeh
Buffed ppu - 150 dmg
buffed ppu + holy heal - 110 dmg
APu at about 5 metres - 150 dmg

:D


And at this point youve realised youve just waxed the original on a clan mate and have to start again.....

t0tt3
02-10-03, 15:50
Rare kami... lol WOOOHOOOO!!!!!!!!!! aritfaqt shit *gone in 10s :p"

So whats the point of that drone? when you only use the bp:s ones.. and how much better are they vs the shop bought one?

Jaggeh
02-10-03, 16:19
a lot better, and all tests were done in neofrag

plus the fact that the drone has no upper ceiling, so you can DFA, and it moves as fast as a hovertec, so try running!!!!

and, a droner doesnt take si for blowing it up so can launch more, kamis are dead handy.

the only problem with them is they are useless where theres doors :/

garyu69
02-10-03, 16:31
Cool.
You are going to have to test this on me later. Is it Energy damage?

Jesterthegreat
02-10-03, 16:37
i outrun hover techs...

QuantumDelta
02-10-03, 16:41
Originally posted by Jaggeh

and, a droner doesnt take si for blowing it up so can launch more, kamis are dead handy.


Fixed.

\\Fényx//
02-10-03, 16:41
Originally posted by QuantumDelta
Fixed.




wanna elaborate on that? Is it a bug? or was it not meant to give SI before and was patched recently o_O

QuantumDelta
02-10-03, 16:47
Kami drones never used to give SL, FS or Money for making kills.

They do now :p

According to the patchnotes anyway...

edit;
Consider that a typo :p

Jolt
02-10-03, 16:53
I used a few KK drones last night and they never gave me impairment (either when someone blew them up or i triggered it).

No idea about money, SL or faction symp part.

Lexxuk
02-10-03, 17:49
Originally posted by QuantumDelta
Kami drones never used to give SL, FS or Money for making kills.

They do now :p

According to the patchnotes anyway...

edit;
Consider that a typo :p

si, not sl, synaptic impairment, when a drone gets blown up, droner takes a si hit, kami, u dont. however, you do lose s/l, even when in a team takin down the poor bat queen wiv julia.

Jaggeh
02-10-03, 18:24
im trying to get back into TT after no-faction bug and a gm telling me he wont fix me

so i hop around various factions slowly raising my TT enough to rejoin, then i decide, im so happy ill go out on a hunt.


bang, i do 10 damage to an APU in our team and then she dies by batqueen, i go from 56 SL to -6 and -5 tt symp to -39
SOMEONE FIX MY CHAR PLZ!!!!

cant wait to try the revenge on a warbot :D

Mirco
02-10-03, 19:31
I got trustable reports that the result of a revenge vs wb showdown will leave the droner very very happy:)

Archeus
02-10-03, 19:44
Originally posted by Jaggeh
im trying to get back into TT after no-faction bug and a gm telling me he wont fix me

don't think GM's can. might need to mail support.

QuantumDelta
02-10-03, 20:15
Originally posted by Lexxuk
si, not sl, synaptic impairment, when a drone gets blown up, droner takes a si hit, kami, u dont. however, you do lose s/l, even when in a team takin down the poor bat queen wiv julia.

- KK drones give money/SL when used to kill NPCs

http://www.neocron.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=353

Previously, it did not.

Oath
02-10-03, 20:21
Originally posted by t0tt3
Rare kami... lol WOOOHOOOO!!!!!!!!!! aritfaqt shit *gone in 10s :p"

So whats the point of that drone? when you only use the bp:s ones.. and how much better are they vs the shop bought one?

Cos they still do a ton more damge than the store bought kamikazes

SovKhan
02-10-03, 20:35
150 damage on a ppu that will reheal and buff before u can ever get a drone back to attack him.

Archeus
02-10-03, 20:58
Originally posted by SovKhan
150 damage on a ppu that will reheal and buff before u can ever get a drone back to attack him.

Two droners, or two drones in quick succession and no they won't.

There is a dead point in each of the stats (Health / PSI) that once reached is impossible to raise fast enough to stay alive. I'm guessing 300+ damage will help you reach it fast enough

Two drones would be enough to have me worried if a third or an attack was coming (health is 400+ buffed).

deac
03-10-03, 09:32
485 health when buffed.... soo bring em on :P

jernau
03-10-03, 10:23
Originally posted by deac
485 health when buffed.... soo bring em on :P

PvP damage being %age based you should take more than the stated 150.

Richard Slade
03-10-03, 10:38
Yeah u should, how about 185 as it's the engine max allowed :rolleyes:
Btw, I'm back from my vacation now :D

Lucjan
03-10-03, 11:39
Originally posted by Richard Slade
Yeah u should, how about 185 as it's the engine max allowed :rolleyes:
Btw, I'm back from my vacation now :D

185 isnt the max what the engine allows (actually not the engine but the one-shot-kill-protection). 260 damage is for example the highest I've seen so far using a Silent Hunter on someone with 450+ health and low FRC/PRC resists with partial dur-2 armor.

ericdraven
03-10-03, 11:45
Originally posted by Lucjan
185 isnt the max what the engine allows (actually not the engine but the one-shot-kill-protection). 260 damage is for example the highest I've seen so far using a Silent Hunter on someone with 450+ health and low FRC/PRC resists with partial dur-2 armor.
Yes, i thínk Lupus wrote in a recent thread that 260 is the maximum.

Shadow Dancer
03-10-03, 12:09
um, 150 on a buffed PPU is alot. If the droner aims for people who are unbuffed( can happen alot in long op wars) and have half health or so he could prolly kill them.

ericdraven
03-10-03, 12:11
Originally posted by Shadow Dancer
um, 150 on a buffed PPU is alot. If the droner aims for people who are unbuffed( can happen alot in long op wars) and have half health or so he could prolly kill them.
Yes, and exactly this should be the use of this drone. :)

Keiron
03-10-03, 12:26
I was thinking more a team of droners target the ppu's :cool: Op wars just got a while lot more intersting!

craio
03-10-03, 12:50
130 damage to a buffed ppu?

I tested it on a holy buffed ppu (with holy heal) and only did 68
(capped the drone)

Archeus
03-10-03, 12:56
Might be something to do with the construction of the drone and the droner.

Julia tested it on me last night I had.

HS Armor + PSI PA 2
Holy Deflector/Shield
Melee 3 / Spy 3 / Haz 3 (bringing health to 438)
Holy Heal + Holy Heal Sanctum running.

The drone did 146 Damage.

I'm sure you can mess with combinations to see the damage it can do, but it is still pretty powerful and would scare the bejeezus out of a PPU if they got 1 or 2 whacks of this in an op war.


185 isnt the max what the engine allows (actually not the engine but the one-shot-kill-protection). 260 damage is for example the highest I've seen so far using a Silent Hunter on someone with 450+ health and low FRC/PRC resists with partial dur-2 armor.

I recall someone doing 1000 damage to a spider with a modded Commando :D and I have heard of APU's doing 600 damage with Kami chips.

ericdraven
03-10-03, 13:01
Originally posted by Archeus
I recall someone doing 1000 damage to a spider with a modded Commando :D and I have heard of APU's doing 600 damage with Kami chips.
We were talking about damage in PvP. A capped SH does exactly 1500 damage to a 1/1 mob.

And you don't need a Kami to do 600 damage as APU. :p

Richard Slade
03-10-03, 13:02
Just a thought here now.
If ~200-300 is max, and there's one-shot-one-kill-protection..
What good is a rare kami when it can't kill anything anyways?
I mean, it's just counted as one shot, right..

ericdraven
03-10-03, 13:03
Originally posted by Richard Slade
Just a thought here now.
If ~200-300 is max, and there's one-shot-one-kill-protection..
What good is a rare kami when it can't kill anything anyways?
I mean, it's just counted as one shot, right..
I think kamikaze drones do not follow this rule.. i hope i am right..

Otherwise -> boring.. you can't even kill a newbie with 50 HLT with a rare kami drone? heh.. o_O

\\Fényx//
03-10-03, 13:05
bah... someone hit me ^^ im talkin about the wrong kami's

NeoLojik
03-10-03, 13:31
I can do 2500+ to a Tripple Damage boosted 1/1 mob :D

*strokes his silent hunter*
Now, if I couls just reconfig my setup to get that rifle Kammie in....

*Really REALLY dosent wanna pull an MC5 out*

jernau
03-10-03, 15:08
Originally posted by Keiron
I was thinking more a team of droners target the ppu's :cool: Op wars just got a while lot more intersting!

Ever tried it?

It's almost impossible because the first drone to go off blows the others that are following it meaning they are all out of position and do crap damage. Timing based on looking where the others are on your screen is useless as KKs are far too fast and lag-jump all over the shop. You might think it's safe to blow up but you are almost certainly wrong. If the whole team is on a voice chat it can be done but that's not always possible and even if it were it's a total reliance on an out-of-game mechanism which IMO is a bad thing.


@Archeus - was she using a copy or an original?

Archeus
03-10-03, 15:13
Originally posted by jernau
@Archeus - was she using a copy or an original?

Copy. Cool Revenge AFAIR.

The original is under lock and key as far as I know too.