Research level needed ?

[shenten]

Hi,

I was wondering what level you need to research rare parts without breaking one ? I know the more the better what level should I actually have to be able to do so ?

And regarding MC5 parts, which skill level is needed ?

Plz tell me the level needed , i'll figure out myself, if I want implants, op bonus, machina gloves etc.. ? Is It 150, 190 ? more... ?
Thanks

[Sanch0s]

Ive failed mc5s at 185 research, and i had over 100 int. And when i say failed ive also broken 2 :mad: :mad:

[SamuraiPizzaCat]

@sanchos
nub


@ shenten
u need 220 and 100 intel to not fail at all

[Delloda]

depends on the tech level of the part. The maximum you'll ever need is 220 in research...double the tech lvl of exp parts and mc-5 parts. More than 220 just means the you will complete the iding faster. At 220 nothing will ever break.

Best get it to 155, wear a machina research glove and do the mc-5 parts at a lab for the +50 bonus.

[LTA]

Originally posted by Sanch0s
Ive failed mc5s at 185 research, and i had over 100 int. And when i say failed ive also broken 2 :mad: :mad:


Musta been infuriating...

Hunt for hours to get a single part... then you actually get on eso they make it blow up..... it somehow dosent have a good feeling at all

[livide]

i think best way to research stuff is:

double of the TL of the item and everything should be fine

lowtechs TL 60 = 120 res
and so on....

so for the expensive stuff it makes 110 * 2 = 220 (as mentioned above)

greetz

[shenten]

Thanks for the answer :)

But I was meaning by not failing actually not BREAKING the parts. Failing is no big deal, but breaking a part is enraging.

So regarding rare parts how much do I need not to break them ?
something like 166 with op+buff is ok ? I should be able to reach 181 with the glove.

[Jesterthegreat]

aye double TL


NC Junkie (253 res skill with lab + const 3 boost)

[mdares]

double TL to not fail/break; if u have a chance to fail u have a chance to break and vice versa.

[slaughteruall]

u need 220 and 100 intel to not fail at all

Nope i break them at TL 222 with 104 INT. I need the glove now. Funny thing is i never have to try more then once i either get it or i break it first try. And the one's i've broke were both MC5 parts what luck i tell you. And one was my part and one was a good freinds part. What luck just glad it was mine and a freinds and not someone in P1. People have a hard time trusting Researchers.


And yes like everyone else said double the TL

Slaughter

[KidWithStick]

220 =/

although with 150-180 you can research 110's without to much trouble...

[CRAIG DIGGERS]

Originally posted by SamuraiPizzaCat
@sanchos
nub


@ shenten
u need 220 and 100 intel to not fail at all

nub ? you can break "T" parts with 240 in res skill ....

[RuriHoshino]

There is *always* a chance to break parts no matter what you're skill level is.:( But the *least* chance is to have at least 220 research.

[Sanch0s]

Nah we had 20 mc5 parts in 1 day. Completed 2 chips in a day :)
Maybe im a nub but im sure if i could control it that i wouldent fail, and hours for mc5??? it isnt THAT hard

[CrazyMan]

My skill is 137 natural research (147 with advanced nerves 2), 163 with const3 and 213 at factory, my INT level is only 79.

Yesterday I was ressing about 50 rares, L's and T's = 100% success from 1st attempt (4 PE parts, new machina gloves parts and CS part :P). E's - from about 15 E's, I had 1 fail without breaking it.

[shenten]

thanks for the answers :)