View Full Version : APU--Useless meatstick w/o PPU up a++? whts your opinion
Clothing_Option
26-09-03, 01:19
Or the player is capped and has best rare weapon for class
whats your opinion
We'd like to know
it all depends on how ur setup and played... i know many apus that dont go ANYWHERE or do ANYTHING without a ppu... (not its not common sense its a lack of skill :D)
me and a hand full of others we do EVERYTHING without a ppu; caves, doys, op fights, u name it...
I might die more that way but hey i got no shame; i could almost last as long as a buffed apu in certain cases :cool:
regarding weapons and capping, again its all on how u play and setup; while APUs have arguably the best "weapon" they have just a little better armor than a spy (that includes PA to the mix).
So i guess while apus are mainly support driven, it is possible for them to be single players as well.
I r teh suck at PvP even with a PPU...but without its usually instafrag for me....but sometimes their aim is even worse than mine and i win
Shadow Dancer
26-09-03, 01:49
I venture out without a ppu and do pretty well. I PK alot alone(well not so much recently, getting tired of CRON).
The only problem is when the enemy has a PPU and the first thing his lame ass does is shock you. You got no stealth and low hp so it's pretty much insta-death.
Progenitor
26-09-03, 01:50
Except for poison caves, I do well on my own. I need better poison resist to survive in there. A Holy Heal now and again works great too. :)
I solo Grims all the time.
And as long as I can switch belts for what I am hunting I don't die that often.
-p
Originally posted by Progenitor
Except for poison caves, I do well on my own. I need better poison resist to survive in there. A Holy Heal now and again works great too. :)
I solo Grims all the time.
And as long as I can switch belts for what I am hunting I don't die that often.
-p
I'm the same. I do alright on my own most of the time. Grims, Warbots are easy to solo if you know what yur doing. I actually get killed most often by lone PPU's with there para spam.
i setup my apu to be mainly run without a ppu. I think he's pretty well setup and can solo 2 grims and pvp pretty effectively. I ain't leet but i think i do ok even though i think i still need to do more tweaking. But thats what makes it fun....the tweaking for perfection...even if perfection is impossible. :)
slaughteruall
26-09-03, 17:55
Perfection is not to hard with APU's you just need to balance everything out a little. i can solo WB's (there to easy) Grims (use your brain when you attack them) I PvP alot i find it's more fun then mobs. Mainly only PvM when i need to clone boosters or what not. BTW i LOM'd some last night eager to see how i do now in OP fights :D. Still trying to perfect my CON setup might take a LOM or 2 not sure yet. Need to do some more calulations.
Slaughter
EDIT: Forgot to say i do PvP without a pocket PPU i just died quicker. What is that i smell? Is that a TH raid?:angel:
Originally posted by mdares
regarding weapons and capping, again its all on how u play and setup; while APUs have arguably the best "weapon" they have just a little better armor than a spy (that includes PA to the mix).
what the hell man ?!? Monk's have by FAR ! the best armour in the game, shite, id LOVE that armour for my tank :eek:
Disturbed021
26-09-03, 18:05
Originally posted by \\Fényx//
what the hell man ?!? Monk's have by FAR ! the best armour in the game, shite, id LOVE that armour for my tank :eek:
heh 'twas thinkin the same thing. Monks have the better armor, but sometimes may not appear so since APUs have 0 defensive spells.....funny as hell to ask a Tank for a deflector and/or heal:wtf: tho generally I'm too embarassed to do such a thing and would rather die:p and do :lol:
Originally posted by Shadow Dancer
I venture out without a ppu and do pretty well. I PK alot alone(well not so much recently, getting tired of CRON).
The only problem is when the enemy has a PPU and the first thing his lame ass does is shock you. You got no stealth and low hp so it's pretty much insta-death.
What do you expect? If your not para'ed your off and away on your hovertec in 5 seconds. Least with para there is a chance of getting to you before you speed off into the distance. Your fast, I am slow, give me some chance to catch you.
APU vs APU: a question who has more skill and/or better setup
APU vs Spy: I didnt die, but also didnt win often as they usualy stealth away and it seems every spy does that on Jupiter (have an APU only there).
APU vs pistol PE: get your HLs hit him as fast as possible while he is still more then 100m away. Then it's a peace of cake.
/EDIT: beat me, but I don't fear Lib PEs but blacksun PEs. While Lib really hurts, most seems to be unable to aim at full speed so they hit me rarely.
APU vs rifle PE: These are the ones I loose most often to. If they know what they are doing Im usually dead meat. Thank god most panic after the first 2 HL strikes and their massive health loss and do the mistake to run away :)
APU vs tank: pretty much like pistol PE just easier. Tanks aim too slow and whenever I have the chance to use range as my advantage there is always a dead tank. Basic rule: be fast and dont let him get close - if he gets close = one dead APU. This is basically the same thing that pisses me off when I play my tank. APU = easy aim with massive damage independent from range.
Sometimes - or maybe usually - I have really to wonder about APUs who dont stick their nose out of plaza-1 without an PPU on their ass. I cant get rid of the feeling these are exactly those guys who failed in PvP playing other classes ;-)
my apu hasnt been killed pvp since ive made him, hes rank 60/47 i think and i level alone 90% of the time
Shadow Dancer
26-09-03, 18:49
Originally posted by Lucjan
APU vs APU: a question who has more skill and/or better setup
This isn't always true. From my experience it comes down to who gets the first hit or 2 hits most of the time.
Since we do so much damage to each other, there's really not much room for error.
Originally posted by Lucjan
APU vs pistol PE: get your HLs hit him as fast as possible while he is still more then 100m away. Then it's a peace of cake.
I agree. :D
Originally posted by Lucjan
APU vs Spy: I didnt die, but also didnt win often as they usualy stealth away and it seems every spy does that on Jupiter (have an APU only there).
O
I can usually kill them before they stealth. Usually 3 headshots will do them in.
Originally posted by Lucjan
APU vs rifle PE: These are the ones I loose most often to. If they know what they are doing Im usually dead meat. Thank god most panic after the first 2 HL strikes and their massive health loss and do the mistake to run away :)
O_O
I don't think rifle pes are anything to be afraid about. Usually u can also abuse your distance against them. I've only met like 2-3 rifle pes on pluto who give me a run for my money(usually because they can take more HLs than a tank :rolleyes: )
Originally posted by Lucjan
APU vs tank: pretty much like pistol PE just easier. Tanks aim too slow and whenever I have the chance to use range as my advantage there is always a dead tank. Basic rule: be fast and dont let him get close - if he gets close = one dead APU.
Not always. An apu still has a good chance of winning against a tank if he's up close.
Originally posted by Lucjan
Sometimes - or maybe usually - I have really to wonder about APUs who dont stick their nose out of plaza-1 without an PPU on their ass. I cant get rid of the feeling these are exactly those guys who failed in PvP playing other classes ;-)
:lol:
Originally posted by Lucjan
APU vs APU: a question who has more skill and/or better setup
or who has better equip
my 5 slot toxic beam > if they got 1 slot
my 4 slot holy pestilence > if they 0-3 slot and not ultimated
my 4 slot holy firestorm > ^
meh 3 slot fire apoc > if they got suckier one o.0
Originally posted by Genty
What do you expect? If your not para'ed your off and away on your hovertec in 5 seconds. Least with para there is a chance of getting to you before you speed off into the distance. Your fast, I am slow, give me some chance to catch you.
The problem is a PPU can easily kill a APU monk on his own. Unless the APU is maxed and has anti buff, heal and is good.
Clothing_Option
26-09-03, 19:59
Originally posted by Delloda
i setup my apu to be mainly run without a ppu. I think he's pretty well setup and can solo 2 grims and pvp pretty effectively. I ain't leet but i think i do ok even though i think i still need to do more tweaking. But thats what makes it fun....the tweaking for perfection...even if perfection is impossible. :)
How do you guys have your resists setup
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slaughteruall
26-09-03, 20:20
How do you guys have your resists setup
I for one have one shared my setup with a few ppl in my clan who i know wont be leaving. So in other words figure out yourself. I for one will not just tell you what it is.
Slaughter
Originally posted by mdares
regarding weapons and capping, again its all on how u play and setup; while APUs have arguably the best "weapon" they have just a little better armor than a spy (that includes PA to the mix).
Uhm the best Psi Armor is the damn best set of armor by far. Theres absolutely nothing you can compare to it. Now look at a spy: a belt, maybe an ARS and thats it. well maybe some inqui if you like drugs and/or gimpage of you combat skills.
well setup apu: pure evil
oh btw...did anyone notice any differences in HL damage? didnt change my PE setup and suddenly i take about 100 dmg per hit. o_O I somehow feel that it was less before. Especially i wonder cause FA doesnt really scratch me although i got way more enr that fir....
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