188 patch changes to CA PA

[-DM-]

I'd like to start with thanking all at KK for the hard work that has been put into the recent patch (188). Well done there's alot of cool stuff in there.

BUT, and it is a big but there have (as per usual I might add) there have been some undocumented changes.

1: (and this is alright, so let the Spys rejoice) the Tangent ARS prototype has changed. It now offeres +200 x-ray armour (it was +117 before).

2: (and this is the porblem) the CA PA has changed. It now give ONLY +24 Force, +24 Piece and +16 Energy (before it was +45.8 to force and piece, and +30.5 energy). KK Whats going on with the CA PA? It is for want of a better word shit. Please change it back.

-DM-

[BlackPrince]

Originally posted by -DM-

2: (and this is the porblem) the CA PA has changed. It now give ONLY +24 Force, +24 Piece and +16 Energy (before it was +45.8 to force and piece, and +30.5 energy). KK Whats going on with the CA PA? It is for want of a better word shit. Please change it back.

-DM-

Oh well, no loss. You'll just have to deal with it like the rest of us who aren't CA do.

[Doc Holliday]

it looks shit. it is shit, they have simply balanced this. :p

[-DM-]

I would say to: so what if you are in CA or not, my char is and because the armour is CA ONLY it has to be decent enough to warant that requirment.

[BlackPrince]

Originally posted by -DM-
I would say to: so what if you are in CA or not, my char is and because the armour is CA ONLY it has to be decent enough to warant that requirment.

CA is the dregs of Neo, so should be their armor.

I feel anyone who wears it should automatically have Doom Harbingers spawn on them every time they move.

Ah well, at least KK has a sense of humor.

[*ph33r*]

Hmm OK then BP, leave our PA as it is, but make the CA reward epic something actually fucking _worth_ having... no?

:lol:

[QuantumDelta]

However it was an unfair advantage to those that are actually loyal to their faction.

I admit it should probably have the bonus of Duranit 2, or MAYBE Duranit3, but uhh........heh :p

[BlackPrince]

Originally posted by *ph33r*
Hmm OK then BP, leave our PA as it is, but make the CA reward epic something actually fucking _worth_ having... no?

:lol:

Sure, how about a Digipet?

[*ph33r*]

Originally posted by BlackPrince
Sure, how about a Digipet?

How about you foad? Thx.

[LTA]

I still personally believe all faction epics should have +faction reqs on em...

Perks of the company


Make the choice then do you stay with your firends, clan etc or desert for 1 item...

[BlackPrince]

Originally posted by *ph33r*
How about you foad? Thx.

How about you GMSoYM! Thx.


LTA, you're right, but I hope you can understand how it cheeses me off seeing someone in CA PA using a DoY Raygun.


Now, to inject some humor:
http://www.oxygen.com/specials/shows/sexshow/video/default.aspx?directory=sexshow&file=SEX00112_1

I find that rather frightening

[-DM-]

Oh yeah like it cheeses me off seeing a TG tank in (Tangent made) PA. LOL. The DOY Rayguns arn't a proper faction item anyway (it drops and dosn't repp to 120% quality)

[QuantumDelta]

We've already been over this.
All PEs/Tanks would end up in Proto Pharma.
All Monks end up in Crahn.
All Tradie Spies end up in FA.
All Combat Spies end up screwed.

[Phiberdelic]

seems to be whining about nothing
Still better than Duran2 plus at a lower req STR40 instead of STR62
which means that a Spy can wear this without drugs, cuz right now at max I can wear Battle3 without drugs.

So get over it

[\\Fényx//]

This is bollox, Theyve fecked my CA PA in the ass... WHY halve it's stats??? CMON WHY !!!!




[Edit]

Phiber... your not even CA... This is our Epic Item... it's now a piece of DuraSHIT 2 with STR 40 req's... look at other factions, MOVEON, Resistor, Speedgun and the crahn gauntlet... once again, balancing comes into effect :rolleyes:


Now when someone says WTF ?!? WHY J00 WEARIN CA PA !! I cant say it's because of it's bonus, and I certainly wont be saying it's cause it looks good...

It's going back in a cab till the day that KK FIX IT, hopefully in tomorros hotfix patch

[QuantumDelta]

meh @ your balancing comment, since you can easily wear PPR/Moveon and use this armor.

[\\Fényx//]

Originally posted by QuantumDelta
meh @ your balancing comment, since you can easily wear PPR/Moveon and use this armor.


I do use the resistor and moveon, their any faction, CA PA is only CA because it looks like a copbot which is CA only...

Look at the rewards you get for the other factions, then look at the CA one... It's shit now...

[BlackPrince]

My question has always been, what was the reasoning that led to some of the best armor availible to one class be blocked and limited as Faction Only?

[QuantumDelta]

Originally posted by BlackPrince
My question has always been, what was the reasoning that led to some of the best armor availible to one class be blocked and limited as Faction Only? Because it looked like copbot armor.
I had no objection to that excuse, however the fact that it was probably the best armor in the game and restricted was an annoying fact that I dealt with.

i still think it should be duranit 2 or 3, not down where it is now.

And yes, I have this armor myself, used to use it.

[\\Fényx//]

Originally posted by BlackPrince
My question has always been, what was the reasoning that led to some of the best armor availible to one class be blocked and limited as Faction Only?


Because it looks like CA PA, have you done the CA epic? It's the copbot armour and for being a CA master they let you wear the guise of a NCPD copbot while your still CA. Would the CA let a TG wear their armour?

[kurai]

Originally posted by \\Fényx//
This is bollox, Theyve fecked my CA PA in the ass... WHY halve it's stats??? CMON WHY !!!!

. . .

Phiber... your not even CA... This is our Epic Item... it's now a piece of DuraSHIT 2 with STR 40 req's... look at other factions, MOVEON, Resistor, Speedgun and the crahn gauntlet... once again, balancing comes into effect :rolleyes:
It was stated that *all (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=all)* the PAs were going to be reworked.

The CA PA was over the top - it had almost the resists of the Level 3 Tank PA, ffs.

As for the second comment ...
I'll take that seriously on the day you hand back all your non CA faction epic rewards, or they get faction locked by KK.

[LTA]

Originally posted by QuantumDelta
We've already been over this.
All PEs/Tanks would end up in Proto Pharma.
All Monks end up in Crahn.
All Tradie Spies end up in FA.
All Combat Spies end up screwed.

Be interesting then......

Monks where they should be!!! :D

and besides it almost like that these days anyway, 1 major sized faction with most ppl inside it having done all the other epics and returned .....

[Selendor]

I know the patch notes said all PA's adjusted but this to me is just not on. I've been nerfed many times in the past, and I've got over it, but come on, its a MASSIVE NERF TO CA. You're taking our one Epic reward, we wear that armour with pride, to defend the city. It wasn't causing any major game inbalances to have it there was it? CA isn't eactly dominating as everyone uses that armour???

No, instead we would be gimping ourselves if we actually wear it (apart from Spies). So now, we've got to put it away and use the PE / SPY PA like every cookie-cutter-one else.

Callash? Reply please - WHY did you feel that was necessary?

And why must I now lose CON XP LOMMING to take account of losing a load of resists?

Plus, if you're going to HALF THE EFFECT OF A PA, you could at least put it in the patch notes properly, instead of sneaking it in under some generalisation.

:mad:

[\\Fényx//]

Reworked into being useless ?

feck the PA, it's in the clan apt now for anyone in the clan that wants it... cause I aint fking wearing it, looks shit and it's stats are even worse than what it looks like now, Titan's gone back on....

[Mattimeo]

There went my last hope for the PAs. I can either be the ugliest model ever, or be a complete gimp rusty copbot...uhm yeah *crosses get power armor for PE off his list of things to do in this game* Hopefully I can finish the rest of my goals before my account expires.

Thanks, KK!

[QuantumDelta]

Originally posted by LTA
Be interesting then......

Monks where they should be!!! :D

and besides it almost like that these days anyway, 1 major sized faction with most ppl inside it having done all the other epics and returned ..... That's crap...
on Uranus.
CA, Crahn, FA and TS = Huge.
That's pretty diverse.

[Selendor]

I refuse to take this nerf lying down :mad:

Look at it like this - you have to be a level 45 runner to do this epic. By that point its already worthless !!! What is the point?

This armour didn't have to be 'uber' to be used, we wanted to use it for roleplaying reasons, without it gimping us.

I don't think I've ever been as mad with this game as I am right now. That PA is the soul of my character, its how I define myself. Regardless of people saying how shit it looked, I represented CA with pride wearing it. I fully intended to continue to wear it instead of the new PE PA. But now I must join the ranks of anorexic darth vaders like everyone else.

I have clan mates asking whats the point staying in CA when our one symbol of individuality has been hit like this. I don't know about the other servers, but we were having enough trouble as it was to make CA a viable faction.

Thanks for the kick in the balls.

[LTA]

I find it stupid that factions provide their enemy with their special items.... i am tired of balance and specialisation...

Why dont they just role everyone out at the start the same pick your pvp template.... and everything else comes preset

Choose your class :
Choose your Prefered Weapon :
Choose A Con Setup

All the rest just comes predefined cuz ultimately the servers end up with identical people with only minor differences in setups o_O

and half of uranus is Tsuanmi, even those half the ppl not in Tsunami will back Tsunami up regardless....

[QuantumDelta]

heh the bitching about "The german alliance" bull is really starting to make me feel sick of this....

[LTA]

Originally posted by QuantumDelta
heh the bitching about "The german alliance" bull is really starting to make me feel sick of this....


I know they are friends and whatever

But as a city admin.... we have to fight like half the server, SSC, The Tsunami's the Tgs etc etc

We don't have the percs of a 100+ man clan.....

[Siygess]

I've got to admit, Selendor, I'm with you on this one. This is the first time I'll admit to being openly peeved with a change that KK have made. Sure, we were told that all PA's were going to be adjusted, but this feels like a really heavy-handed adjustment to me.

If anyone needs the nerf bat, you guys know where to find it. Just ask a CA Master to bend over.

Just make sure you wipe it clean before you use it :rolleyes:

[FirestarXL]

Well, all I can say is, I'm glad Spy PA is just round the corner, because this "epic" item is now going into the darkest depths of storage. Nice while it lasted.

[Scikar]

Seems it's been fixed in 189, but I would say it probably had something to do with PA resist formulas being changed to make them req-based. With a str 40 req it was given the resist a tank PA would have, if its req was str 40. :)