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Benjie
24-09-03, 01:13
My idea is to increase the roleplay and trade between factions.
Firstly Drugs should have addictive qualities. The way that would work is as follows. People who take a lot of drugs at one time will become drug addicts. Those people will then have a higher tollerance to the drug and experience less haze as an after effect, but they have a sticky synaptic imparement level of 5. If no drugs are taken then this Synaptic Imparement will slowly begin to rise and rise untill it reaches a peak, at which point it will begin to fall back down to zero. That however is just one example of what a drug addict coulds experience. The system would be completely dependant on what kk can program. Following this startaling discovery that drugs are having long term effects, City Admin of course will take action by taking the worst contributors off from the shelves. The drugs that will be removed are as follows. Beast, X-strong, Redflash, Whiteflash, Destrosol forte, Paratemol forte. You will probabally notice that those drugs are some of the most sort after drugs in Neocron. the ones that all the so called "drug addicts" (If they can really be called that) use. Of course these drugs would not be taken out of the game. No! How could the Black Dragon Clan turn down such a blatant opertunity! Hehe, and so The Black Dragon Clan aswell as Tsunamo Sindicate begin selling the drugs to there faction members only. This opens up a huge roleplaying element for some people as runners dependant on drugs will have a craving for more. If Black Dragon and Tsunamo runners are the only factions who can get there hands on illegal drugs then this would create a roleplaying oppertunity aswell as a brand new trade. It would also open up the door to Recycle, but if that idea becomes unpopular then higher level drugs could perhaps have a TL increase. So they become harder to Recycle. I also belive that the Alchoholic drink "Cheap Booze" should be taken from the Neocron bars and given to Black Dragon, for roleplay purposes of course. This is not eccential though.

Whiety Bulger
24-09-03, 01:16
I want more role playen drugs ciggs,weed no more pill shit

Benjie
24-09-03, 01:25
Originally posted by Whiety Bulger
I want more role playen drugs ciggs,weed no more pill shit

Hell yeah I would seriosuly love some Weed, Ciggars and Smokes. Somthing REALLY roleplay with drugs.


Suggestions for weed effects........

-All Models (mobs/runners/vehicles) begin cycling Hue (change colours) Mainly with browns, golds, and oranges.
-You emote a "smoking" effect.
-Food heals +50 hp. (muchies!!)
-Medikits heal -50 hp. (Trippy!!)
-You can sit on all plants when you are stoned.
-Copbots begin shooting you (for roleplay)

Plz Rate this thread. http://neocron2.jafc.de/images/5stars.gif. (hehe 5 stars is just a guideline)

QuantumDelta
24-09-03, 01:32
Not bad, I think it's workable... coming from a char who really was a drug addict..heh :P

StryfeX
24-09-03, 01:43
That would be cool...but Tsunami wouldn't be selling any of them. They're dead-set against drugs of any type. Hence the hostilities between them and ProtoPharma.

I remember reading somewhere an idea about being inside the bars and clubs of PP and getting a reduction to the time SI takes to wear off. That would be good for the Tsunami's. Make the clubs used.

--Stryfe

Benjie
24-09-03, 01:49
Originally posted by StryfeX
I remember reading somewhere an idea about being inside the bars and clubs of PP and getting a reduction to the time SI takes to wear off. That would be good for the Tsunami's. Make the clubs used.
Hell that would be good! You would need some hardcore guards in the clubs and pubs though to stop fights breaking out inside. you wanna fight you should go outside.
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I love ideas about the two factions Black Dragon and Tsunami Sindicate. The only thing that bothers me is that Black Dragon are making the Casino. IMO it should be TS.
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And KK when are we going to get STAR TERMINALS!? (even if it's just a card game like snap where you could win money (but likely wont) it could be rigged so it wont pay out it's 40k prize untill it has 50k put into it, and it pays out 1k prizes whenether it has had 5k put into it. =Money Sinch Fix!
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okay sorry for going off-topic. Back to Drug Addicts, Black Dragon and Drug Effects.

:angel:



*edit*
I would love to be able to wander into The Pepper Park pub to see who's hanging out there, and join in in a conversation. It would be just like a Real Life pub in a way... (mingling, Drinking loms...)

SirSensi
24-09-03, 01:52
The Stoned Effects are EXACTLY What I experinced last night [and every night for that matter :D]. Smoking Drugs would be an excellent Idea... then they could lead into other drugs... or carpetry:rolleyes: [whatever floats ur boat.. I suppose...]:lol:

StryfeX
24-09-03, 01:58
Originally posted by Benjie
Hell that would be good! You would need some hardcore guards in the clubs and pubs though to stop fights breaking out inside. you wanna fight you should go outside.You want hardcore guards? Just try and fight the Club Veronique guards. The ones who still use the Assault Rifle. I've seen two of them take down a fully-capped GenTank and a fully capped fully buffed pure PPU in about 25-30 seconds. :eek: o_O :lol:

--Stryfe

Whiety Bulger
24-09-03, 02:25
The Copbots only shoot u if you don't pass the bowl over :). Seriously they should also have different strians and pices(Cursed Soul Bong)

Roc-a-fella
24-09-03, 02:27
a cigar hangin out your mouth while pvping would be so pimp:cool:

Benjie
24-09-03, 02:34
Originally posted by Roc-a-fella
a cigar hangin out your mouth while pvping would be so pimp:cool:
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Thats my point. Roleplay.
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Especially if in order to get your Cigars you have to visit a memeber of the Black Dragon clan down a Grungy Street in the Red Light Pepper Park District.
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I have just invisioned how the cigarretes would work. It would look like a cigarete packet and have the number 12 at the bottom. When you use one the number goes down by 1 (like with medikits) and you trigger the emote.
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Cigars could work as individual items and signify importance as they would cost more and perhaps look different. (or not? Depends on how hard it is to do.)
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Any ideas related to drugs and drug related roleplay are fully appreciated, and a welcome addition to my thread. :p
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Style
24-09-03, 02:41
god this would fuckin rock...... seriously, this would fuckin rock......... no reallly, this would rock.......

kk please look into this... i mean smokin weeed and seein colors changing on mobs and runners... that would be insane, and a trade which would fund us lazy black dragons to stay alive

Roc-a-fella
24-09-03, 02:41
cig's and that stuff should last long tho, not do emote once and its gone that would be mad cheap

Style
24-09-03, 02:43
may i suggest through
only make it possible for black dragons to make the drugs and sell them, otherwise you may as well not put this in

ZoneVortex
24-09-03, 02:47
Yeah baby. More hardcore shit like drugs with visuals and stuff would rock.

Mattimeo
24-09-03, 02:49
Make sure that over time, smoking, drinking, stuff like that, you lose XP and levels in relevant stats. Smoke alot of Cigars? -Con Smoke alot of weed? -Dex(ever watch a burn out try to do something like skate? most hilarious thing ever) Drink alot? -Int(killing those brain cells)

Then we can have fun stuff, like make some of the bigger drugs take a few minutes before the effects happen (gotta heat up that heroin spoon and jam that needle in your arm). oh oh, then you can OD, where your character goes from full health to dead!

Roleplay your drug addicts, and give them real consequences for doing it! do it for the RP value, please?

Benjie
24-09-03, 02:49
Originally posted by Style
may i suggest through
only make it possible for black dragons to make the drugs and sell them, otherwise you may as well not put this in

Even though I am City Merc and I have been killed by a hellalot black Dragon, I completely agree that black dragon should be the main dealers and manufactorers of Drugs/Ciggarettes/weed. Otherwise hell! You may as well remove The Black Dragon Clan!

Benjie
24-09-03, 02:54
Originally posted by Mattimeo
Make sure that over time, smoking, drinking, stuff like that, you lose XP and levels in relevant stats. Smoke alot of Cigars? -Con Smoke alot of weed? -Dex(ever watch a burn out try to do something like skate? most hilarious thing ever) Drink alot? -Int(killing those brain cells)

Then we can have fun stuff, like make some of the bigger drugs take a few minutes before the effects happen (gotta heat up that heroin spoon and jam that needle in your arm). oh oh, then you can OD, where your character goes from full health to dead!

Roleplay your drug addicts, and give them real consequences for doing it! do it for the RP value, please?

No deffinetly not. It would put to waste yet another roleplay oppertunity in NC. If you look I suggested another idea for bad consequences in my primary post. If neither of those then nothing at all, bar the money wasted to fund the habbit.

Mattimeo
24-09-03, 03:04
Originally posted by Benjie
No deffinetly not. It would put to waste yet another roleplay oppertunity in NC. If you look I suggested another idea for bad consequences in my primary post. If neither of those then nothing at all, bar the money wasted to fund the habbit.

so you DON'T want RP value then?

Benjie
24-09-03, 03:08
Originally posted by Mattimeo
so you DON'T want RP value then?

it's not that I don't want the RP. Ideally your idea is really cool. I just think if the tradeoff is too big then people will not use it very much and it will end up like pepper park pub, and many other wated roleplaying oppertunities.

I completely agree with you that being an addict should change your life. But not if it takes away chunks of hard earned xp. I would prefere somthing like this.

orrigionally posted by meeeee!!!!
Those people will then have a higher tollerance to the drug and experience less haze as an after effect, but they have a sticky synaptic imparement level of 5. If no drugs are taken then this Synaptic Imparement will slowly begin to rise and rise untill it reaches a peak, at which point it will begin to fall back down to zero.


...Anyway your idea could create an exploit with loms.

Benjie
24-09-03, 08:43
*Bump*
Just needs to get a few more views before it wades into the forever sea of nothingness that is..... Page 2 of the NC forum.

Agent L
24-09-03, 10:48
Constant SI sucks. 5% from 100 = 5 and count other stats, takes more then gives. That would make drugs completly useless.
I think addiction and SI rise when trying to quit is enough.

Addiction was implemented best in Postal2 IMHO : character kept switching active inventory item to drug, so when you hit "use" without checking what is selected, you used drug - exactly what Postal Dude wanted :D
In NC character could switch drug with quickbelt item (hehe "CS, where the hell is my CS ?!"), or even take drug without user action if there are drugs in inventory.

Another trick : when on drugs, safeslot is randomized, you're too drugged to remember what is more valuable, CS or medikit :D

OR if you have drug in QB, the slot with drug is safeslot ("my precioussssss...")

And I think that drugs should have more doses than one. Then worst addicts would have take few at once to see any effect.

Leebzie
24-09-03, 11:02
dude , ive just realised. We're in a cyberpunk universe... but we can't smoke weed and stuff ??? what the hell...

problem is it would just have sum stupid negative effects... drugs/alcohol in neo need sum cool positives , like making funky colours , and weird shit appear.

Heavyporker
24-09-03, 16:01
Hm, benjie... have you read my drug idea thread? Because we seem to have fairly different ideas about drug withdrawals...

nice ideas on the RP drugs, though... I'd love to hear your take on my more-hardcore drugs.

Mattimeo
24-09-03, 18:33
I still say without harsh negatives, you're just glorifying drug use, which really should not be done.

Drugs are bad, MMkay?

Doc Holliday
24-09-03, 20:00
yeah drugs are bad.... this is a game hmmmmmkay

Heavyporker
24-09-03, 23:44
agreed mattimeo -you guys really should read my drug thread idea. I think I implemented some interesting ideas.

Whiety Bulger
24-09-03, 23:56
Add rares bongs :) "TRADING WYATT EARP FOR STEM OD NIDDIBONG"