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FBI
15-09-03, 02:27
As we all know, taking a tad too much drugs in neocron or booze
makes your screen fuzzy and you crouch moving awkward until
you just decide to sit their immobilized. I think there needs to be
a way to decrease the drug crash time, my solution is simple:

There are medic beds in medicare also throughout neocron and in
apartments. So why not make these beds decrease the drug crash
time by 10% for each activation?

Q&A:
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Q: But FBI, this will be abused.

A: Nope my padawan, the medic beds have a 15 second delay
after each activation so if you had a 100% drug crash and used
a medical bed it would take aprox 2.5 minutes (10*15/60). If
you toggle between multiple beds that makes it even quicker,
pepper park medicare to name a few. Also, the drug crash was
implimented so people who take drugs for combat would have
to suffer after for balance (booze is for roleplay). Since there
are no medical meds out in the wastelands, it can't be abused.
This is aiming at safezones and apartments more.
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Q: Why not just wait for the drug crash to finish, it's no big deal.

A: Yes it is a big deal, people are afraid to drink booze in public
because they will get drunk and fall to their knees which makes
them embarassed. If this was implimented, more people would
have the occasional drink without fear of overdrinking, now they
can go out and have a blast knowing there are medical devices
that will help them but more important they should anyway :)
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Q: Yeah but there are more important things to work on,
than things like this. This would be hard to impliment right?

A: While there are more important things KK could focus
on, it's little things like this that make this game more endurable.
Tradeskillers use drugs to activate implants or to make that rare
at the best possible chance for slots + quality. People drink booze
with no medical location to attend to for help.
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But I guess what's more important is if the devs are able to easily
impliment something like this. If crouching decreases drug crash
time then maybe a bed to decrease the time by 10% isn't that
hard, then again I am more than sure this is a walk in the park for
them guys ;)

So vote up guys, I think this is a much needed addition that helps
everyone and may promote more roleplay.

FBI

Mirco
15-09-03, 03:35
Here is one idea i had a few weeks ago. Got no stars. No replies and sunk like a rock. Do I take a hint? NO!!!! Thats why I post a link to it.


http://neocron.jafc.de/showthread.php?s=&threadid=72661

there you go.

Benjie
15-09-03, 04:06
NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Make food lower drug haze!!! Then add eating annimations!!!

That would be MUCH cooler!

FBI
15-09-03, 04:30
Originally posted by Mirco
Here is one idea i had a few weeks ago. Got no stars. No replies and sunk like a rock. Do I take a hint? NO!!!! Thats why I post a link to it.


http://neocron.jafc.de/showthread.php?s=&threadid=72661

there you go.


my idea is simpler as they already have something to work with,
nothing new to make or add.


Originally posted by Benjie
NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Make food lower drug haze!!! Then add eating annimations!!!

That would be MUCH cooler!

Can i have serious replys please, no spam.

Benjie
15-09-03, 04:45
FBI, that was a serious reply. I'm sorry I rushed the post man.

Basicly what I am saying is yes, I agree with you. There should be a way to lower drug haze. Recreation units would be a good way to lower drug haze. HOWEVER!..... I think that you would be killing two birds with one stone if you made food lower drug haze and then implament eating annimations. It would add a more roleplay attmostphere. People would hunt in the agressor cellers in plaza 2 and then go to the Sushi Resteraunt for a bite to eat. Just imagine being a noobie and seing a resteraunt full of people eating food!

And I have to say that I like the generall gist of your idea, a way to lower drug haze. I just think that medibeds arn't the best way of doing it.

Sorry you thought my last post was intended to be spam.

hivemind
15-09-03, 05:19
Since there are no medical meds out in the wastelands, it can't be abused.

Some of the OPs have beds in the Undergrounds...

Benjie
15-09-03, 05:23
If food reduces drug haze then you can up the cost. Serious, I think my idea is pwn! (I have had it for a while.)

Oh and make it proper meals only. I dont think there are any uber l337 mobs that drop steak and kidney pie. :p

FBI
15-09-03, 06:17
In real life, eating food after getting drunk makes you throw up.

Medical beds are more fit for this.



Originally posted by hivemind
Some of the OPs have beds in the Undergrounds...

Undergrounds arn't wastelands. When i say wastelands i mean
the actual ground, not another "zone" from it.

sheesh

Benjie
15-09-03, 06:24
Originally posted by FBI
In real life, eating food after getting drunk makes you throw up.

Medical beds are more fit for this.
Not if you have the munches! Yeah I'm dunk... erm.... No mum I am just tired, thats why my eyes are this way.

tbh if it fills up the sometimes empty resteraunts then I am all for not caring what the real life implacations are. I really think that even though food makes less sence, it would have a much better impact on the game. Oh come on like we need to see even more people hanging around in plaza 1 medicare!

FBI
15-09-03, 06:30
Originally posted by Benjie
Not if you have the munches! Yeah I'm dunk... erm.... No mum I am just tired, thats why my eyes are this way.

tbh if it fills up the sometimes empty resteraunts then I am all for not caring what the real life implacations are. I really think that even though food makes less sence, it would have a much better impact on the game. Oh come on like we need to see even more people hanging around in plaza 1 medicare!

Well it's balanced that way. We don't want people losing their
drug haze in the mist of battle by eating food o_O

If people have an advantage over others by drugging they have
to suffer afterwards (drug haze). With my idea, everyone wins.

Benjie
15-09-03, 06:39
Originally posted by FBI
Well it's balanced that way. We don't want people losing their
drug haze in the mist of battle by eating food o_O

If people have an advantage over others by drugging they have
to suffer afterwards (drug haze). With my idea, everyone wins.

I am going to make the whole argument of unrealsim worse by suggesting this but what the hey! Food should weigh more. Too much to realisticly want to carry any more than 1 around with you in the wastelands. Then eating the food zero's out your stamina, making it completely useless to use in combat. Finally You would need a fair few plates of food to reduce drug haze. I know it dousn't make total sence, but actually if you drink wine and eat food then the food will help to stop you from getting drunk. (a bit) So it does make some sort of sence, kinda. I just think the roleplay implacations would be immense, with people perhaps quote often going to chez cypher for a meal, and going to the sushi resteraunt in plaza 2 and eating. I really really do not want to see any more people in plaza 1, otherwise it would kill plaza 2 aggressor cellors hence killing plaza 2. It would also lower framerate even further in that area, making people with slow computers/Raedeon video cards suffer. Another argument against me you forgot to mention is that reakktor would have to spend more time adding eating annimation for this idea to fully work, but that could wait.

FBI
15-09-03, 06:43
It's more logical to goto your nearest medicare if your sick, hazed,
drugged, whatever. It's generalization toward realization.

I'm not implying actually making it like RL, psi monks arn't realistic.

But, like i said. Medicare makes sense, food doesn't.

Psyco Groupie
15-09-03, 06:44
wot a crap idea and completely useless

/set kill_self 1 + ppu

if its a battle situation then change your smelly drug setup and to be back at medi means u died anyway so ... yeah its a really crap idea

Benjie
15-09-03, 06:44
Originally posted by FBI
It's more logical to goto your nearest medicare if your sick, hazed,
drugged, whatever. It's generalization toward realization.

I'm not implying actually making it like RL, psi monks arn't realistic.

But, like i said. Medicare makes sense, food doesn't.
What if both ideas where implamented? There both good!

FBI
15-09-03, 06:49
Originally posted by Psyco Groupie
wot a crap idea and completely useless

/set kill_self 1 + ppu

if its a battle situation then change your smelly drug setup and to be back at medi means u died anyway so ... yeah its a really crap idea

Kill_Self + ppu is abusing the system, thanks for admitting it twit.

This idea has nothing to do with PvP + drugs. It has to do with
getting too drunk and tradeskillers mainly.


Your post is crap, your opinion sucks too.

:angel:

Benjie
15-09-03, 06:52
Originally posted by FBI
Kill_Self + ppu is abusing the system, thanks for admitting it twit.

This idea has nothing to do with PvP + drugs. It has to do with
getting too drunk and tradeskillers mainly.


Your post is crap, your opinion sucks too.

:angel:
Funny I thought a similar thing when I read his post. :p
FBI I think your idea ROX! I have had similar ideas. I'm just adding what conclusions I came to when i had my brainstorm thing. I do see the point your making though. I agree, I think that the tradeon is bigger than the trade off though.


:)

FBI
15-09-03, 12:57
Originally posted by Benjie
Funny I thought a similar thing when I read his post. :p
FBI I think your idea ROX! I have had similar ideas. I'm just adding what conclusions I came to when i had my brainstorm thing. I do see the point your making though. I agree, I think that the tradeon is bigger than the trade off though.


:)

your a "weirdo" definately. but now that your not drunk/tired/
high/weird i'm glad you liked my idea. :D

Original monk
15-09-03, 13:15
Originally posted by FBI

Q: Why not just wait for the drug crash to finish, it's no big deal.

A: Yes it is a big deal, people are afraid to drink booze in public
because they will get drunk and fall to their knees which makes
them embarassed. If this was implimented, more people would
have the occasional drink without fear of overdrinking, now they
can go out and have a blast knowing there are medical devices
that will help them but more important they should anyway :)
FBI

So youre promotin the drinkin of alcohol ? "now they can go out and have a blast" ? better be carefull mate, look at this : alcohol (http://www.av.iugm.org/faq/impact.html) and phear :P

Napalm82
15-09-03, 13:30
This might be a wee bit off topic but food was mentioned so i just thought that food should have some use and animations, NOBODY wanna sit at a restaurant and eat cuz you eat a whole plate of meat in 0.001 seconds and nobody can see you did eat.
Make a animation that takes 20 secs and maybe reduce your drug haze (As mentioned) or do some other thing. maybe radiated food to give +10 CST for the 10 secs?

*ducks behind desk trembling in fear from FBI* :)

FBI
15-09-03, 15:13
Originally posted by Napalm82
This might be a wee bit off topic but food was mentioned so i just thought that food should ...

*ducks behind desk trembling in fear from FBI* :)

Would you fat bastards stop talking about food... for heavens sake.

:lol:

It's ok napalm, the thread is useless anyway. I'll have nid close
it :o

GurTjaN
15-09-03, 15:30
sometimes i feel like im bugged and the effect lasts too long and when i relog suddenly its gone o_O

weird man anywayz its irritating at combat but in the city it would be nice if beds could decrease it cuz there has to be a sideeffect on the bonus ur gettin