View Full Version : My PE's setup any pointers ?
http://www.angelfire.com/alt/ryuben/PE-_setupmk2.jpg
any one got any ideas about improveing it (working on a MC5 but fuck me i get ripped in there)
hmm Get a PP chip...
Get 50 MST so you can drug up for a nice resist 3 or haz/heat 1.
Whats with the 5 barter? put it in psi use or weaponlore.
You got too low Athletics, the min you should have is 70...and youre a rifler too, so youll be quite sluggish with 50...
Youve got too little xray, and way too little Fire.
Youve got too much energy resist, by the looks of your armor and resists. You should try using neocron.ems.ru and read a bit about armor and resists and stuff like that.
Your rifle is too low, only 159....try getting it to 165 Rc, with a pc 1 it will be 170. ...and 170 is uber.
But im guessing youre gonna use a rog?
If you get a SA, you can drop the exp ballistic 3 for the sa..meh
IMO, id just drop the Moto and stick a pp chip in, and just drug up to use a rog.
basically to reiterate duder's comments - your psu should be around 50, dont use motor3, drop T-c to 76 and use r-c 1 to get 80 for your stealth, kill the por and pump xrrand delete msn messenger - it really does sux0r :D
ZoneVortex
08-09-03, 15:47
Can I ask you how you got that program to work? Everytime I unzip it it tells me it's missing a DLL
change your PPU from 76 to 75 those point will give yea better stats on spells if put in PPW ALso why have 76 PPU and not 50mst? if your gonna drug to haz you need to take some PPW and raise your mst
you've spec'd a medium energy belt but your str is only 57. Are you drugging up to 60 or am I missing something?
if not - you could drop the moto 3 for a moveon - you can get your str back up to 60 (medium belts plus VPK) and the extra 18 health can get shuffled into your resists or athletics. Just depends on how much DEX you need.
you might also want to fiddle with agility and athletics - if you can balance them out to 70ish each you can put those extra points into RC but you'll have to reduce one of your resists (or use the points from the moveon). Tweaking your armor a bit would make up for the shuffle some ... I'm PC so the 75/75ish seems to be a decent softcap for me, not sure with rifles though.
hope this helps.
Jesterthegreat
08-09-03, 16:00
its trillian not MSN :p
and eah id agree with the comments here (btw delete trillian too... its even worse!)
NC Junkie
Originally posted by ZoneVortex
Can I ask you how you got that program to work? Everytime I unzip it it tells me it's missing a DLL
PS anyone that cannot get the skill manager to work (in XP) due to a runtime issue, download the file below. If you find it needs to be registered follow directions here for runtime error 372: http://www.coachsoffice.com/support...#Run-time%20372
http://www.coachsoffice.com/download/COMDLG32.OCX
Originally posted by DonnyJepp
PS anyone that cannot get the skill manager to work (in XP) due to a runtime issue, download the file below. If you find it needs to be registered follow directions here for runtime error 372: http://www.coachsoffice.com/support...#Run-time%20372
http://www.coachsoffice.com/download/COMDLG32.OCX
on my win2k system i cant get it to show the implant options.
any pointers there?
Ok, well I would either use a Pain Easer or drug up for RoG. Then take out moto 3, put in PP CPU. The resist and armour is way rock methinks.... I would ask QD about that though.
Yeah too much agility, and not enough Ath. With the agl/ath past 70 it takes twice as many points to = points under 70. So for example: 70/70 = 90/60 = 110/50 or vise versa. This is what I've been told by various PEs.
Put the rest of the points from agility into Rifle combat.
Oh and that hack gimps you a bit.... if you are using tech combat as well as rifle combat in dex then it helps to have a bit extra weapon lore to give that final boost to rifle damage. wtf is that barter doing? Either put it into psi use or into weapon lore.
Lose about 40 hack, you could still do warbots.
Get rid of the Psi Use and Barter also, under Int. Put all these points into lore.
Ditch about 20 agility, bring it down to just over 70, put the points into Rifle.
And put about 10 from resist energy into Athletics.
As soon as you can afford to, lose the Motoric 3. This weekend i switched out to an SF/TC3/ExpBal3/Dist3 setup and I am loving it. An MC5 would only allow me some slightly better armor and to use the Ray of God decently, so I'm eschewing both :D
Otherwise not looking too badly, leave your TC where it is at (or maybe add just a couple points) and you'll be able to stealth 1, and use rifles up through the Reezas Gaze and Pain Easer :D My PE can also use the blue motorcycle with 17 in vehicle use, it really helps him get around.
Feel free to ignore the suggestions and call me an ass :p
as some people have already said lose some agl and use a PP resistor, have just over 70 in both agl/atl is plenty enough then if you use a PE as your main wep and special occasions drug up to RoG using redflash, the extra speed the redflash gives is really noticable even using a rifle i notice a decent boost to my speed and even if i didn't need to drug to my rog i probably would neway for the extra speed when i need it.
Idealy you need as much WL as you can afford for rifles so skimp everything you can in int, and get 165 in RC then the +5 from RC boost 1 pushes that up to 170, i get 144/min on my PE and 89 on my RoG, capped dmg on both. PE has 120% freq rog has 116% (still 1 slot free on RoG)
Edit: reworded few things
i cap my pain eazer with Rifle 1 so....wasn't sure i needed the extra Rifle (and i cap my commando) but ill lom some AGL to Rifle :D
also i changed teh boots to medium fire ones to help the lack of fire resist (got high energy cos i am doing mc5 so i ask for a haz 3 for the xray)
so pump my atl some and...swap what chip for a PP ? as i want to be able to use the RoG with out drugs :\
ill lom the barter to PSU (i got a nice 4 slot heal so i will see if i can run cast it) aslo lom the PPU to 75 and put it in ppw
Kugero
you've spec'd a medium energy belt but your str is only 57. Are you drugging up to 60 or am I missing something? medium belt = int req
i want to keep the hack as i got 100 hack with spy 1 enough for a OP and belts (and i WANT to loot the people i kill ^.^)
so jsut change over my con, some more on xray and fire?
You cap PE dmg, but RoF is also very important, which im sure you havnt capped.
Oh and yes, Rifles + hacking = bad.
Also, use Drugs.
Originally posted by Duder
You cap PE dmg, but RoF is also very important, which im sure you havnt capped.
Oh and yes, Rifles + hacking = bad.
Also, use Drugs.
ahh well looks like im gunna be gimped for PvP, as i need to keep the hacking for OP wars :( (one of the few hackers in clan)
so any tips for con :D and armour
doh. thanks for the correction I was still thinking about the moveon when I was looking at the medium belt ...
QuantumDelta
08-09-03, 19:39
No offence, but your resist setup is backwards, don't specialise both armor and con in the same field unless you want to get raped by ammo mods.
Secondly, get yourself a PP Resistor, like the peeps say, slot it instead of moto3, and then use redflash for RoG.
Heh...
Edit; If you're REALLY Dead-set on RoG without drugs, you may as well use a USEFUL implant, like Balance Advancer 3, for your five extra dex. (Yes, I am aware of the STR Malus, but your armor isn't that great atm anyways...)
yeah ill swap the motoric 3 :D and lom some energy resist to xray and a ickle bit o fire
QuantumDelta
08-09-03, 19:43
Experiment with the possible armors your PE can wear, as well, the right combo, might not be what you expect on first glances ;)
http://www.angelfire.com/alt/ryuben/better.JPG
hmmmm feel free to DM me ideas if u want
i left the T-C low as i hope by the time i get a decent RoG ill have a SA too so...............
QuantumDelta
08-09-03, 19:58
Looks a tiny bit better...
Armors still all wrong though ;)
Remember, you don't need much more than 120-130 for armor AND con combined.
i went for -
Inquisitionhelmet 2
Duranit-Armorvest 2
Medium Energy Protection Belt
Inquisitiontrousers 2
Crahn Holy Shelter Boots
Had fire and energy natural somewhere below 50 and xray somewhere above 50....
PSI
PPU 70
MST 50
PPW 20
That way you can drug for the hazard/psi sheild
QuantumDelta
08-09-03, 20:07
o_O
22 PPW...
hmm, nexxy :p
http://www.angelfire.com/alt/ryuben/again.JPG
Psycho_Soldier
08-09-03, 20:26
Str heart 2 is better for your setup.
QuantumDelta
08-09-03, 20:33
Better ;)
Originally posted by Psycho_Soldier
Str heart 2 is better for your setup.
erm how about no....
Filter heart 2 is the best heart because is gives the most points in con. Strength heart 2 gives -5 points in con....
Psycho_Soldier
08-09-03, 21:31
Originally posted by Nexxy
erm how about no....
Filter heart 2 is the best heart because is gives the most points in con. Strength heart 2 gives -5 points in con....
:rolleyes: Str heart 2 gives +3 con, Filter 2 takes away con, as in minus five (-5) con.
Keep in mind he is using Filter 1, but just for sake of argument.
BioTech Filter-Heart 2 XRR+10 POR+15 CON-5
BioTech Filter-Heart 1 XRR+8 POR+10 CON-5
and
BioTech Strengthen Heart 2 HLT+10 CON+3 POR-15
Ok take a look at this. If you replace Filter 2 with Str heart 2 then this is what you get.
68 Con instead of 60. Then you get 85 HLT 80 Xray and 7 POR. Ok, you take the 10 from 85 right to make it back to 75. That would be like 20 free ponts because it would actually be loming to 65 base HLT. So, going from 80 xray back to 86 with 4 loss in xray which would only be 2 loss in xray from filter 1). This im not sure on since it has been awhile since I have played but, if you take points from HLT to get the same health you would with 60 con, that might make up for the loss of xray, and I don't think poison is that important, and you can also use Haz1, which gives xray and poison resist. The additional 8 con points, going from 60 to 68 is a big deal for a PE.
You might be right though, im not sure. For a tank, yes Filter 2 is better. But all the good PE's that have told me what they use, use Str Heart 2 saying that con level is really important, even more than resist.
why con lvls give HP+sta
:confused:
Lupus proved that CON doesn't affect the resists values i.e. 100 con + 30 xray gets same dmg as 10 con + 30 xray so.....ill leave it might put in str 2 till i get a filther 2.....hmmmmm
:rolleyes: now i got to cap the fucker to get it sorted lol :D
Dribble Joy
08-09-03, 23:30
Filter 2 pwns str 2.
The con reduction is irrelevant.
Str 2 may give hp but the xray cost is unacceptable.
+10 xray will save you a shit ton of con points, You need about 103ish in xray (including imps) added to the spirit boots to get 'enough' resist in xray armour
With a heat 1 you can get 110+ in all resists on a PE (not poison though)
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