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Nullifidian
05-09-03, 21:43
CRAHN
1) Crahn Abbey should sell all Crahn products. Only those who are allied or neutral with Crahn should be permitted to purchase from these dealers in the Abbey. The dealers would have the usual stock of spells, etc.

However, the accessory dealer would sometimes sell additional Crahn implants. Any time a dealer has these implants, they would be of lower quality than standard storebought implants, and would have limited stock. They would never have outright rare implants, but might very rarely have level 3 implants (keep in mind they would be lower condition). Any implants that normally can't be bought in stores would have inflated prices however.

In addition to this, members of Crahn would get a discount at all of these dealers based on their faction rating with Crahn.


PEPPER PARK, BLACK DRAGON, TSUNAMI
2) There should be drug dealers all throughout Pepper Park. All sectors of Pepper Park should have corner drug dealers. These dealers should spawn at random, and after a certain amount of time, they should go away; it keeps things changing.

Each dealer would have a random assortment of drugs available. Some would be limited others not. Prices would vary; some dealers would have certain drugs for cheaper prices than storebought, and others for higher prices. Cheap drugs would always be limited though.

Occasionally dealers might have in very very small quantities, rare drugs. They would however sell them for rather large prices.

Dealers on the street would be associated with Black Dragon. They would not sell to Tsunami runners, and would give discounts to Black Dragon runners based on faction rating.

Dealers inside the clubs however would be associated with Tsunami. They would not sell to Black Dragon runners, and would give discounts to Tsunami runners based on faction rating.

Street dealers and club dealers would tend to have different selections. Each dealer type would be more likely to have certain drugs than others.


3) Pepper Park should also have "second hand" implant dealers. The implants they sell would all have lower condition and lower max condition than standard storebought implants. They would however be cheaper usually. The bonus to these dealers however would be that they would frequently have implants that are not available in stores. These implants however would cost quite a bit more than their value. All implants would have a stock of 1. Each seperate implant would have a seperate entry.

Rare implants would never be available from these dealers, however very rarely a dealer might have a level 3 implant.

Dealers on the street would be associated with Black Dragon. They would not sell to Tsunami runners, and would give discounts to Black Dragon runners based on faction rating.

Dealers inside the clubs however would be associated with Tsunami. They would not sell to Black Dragon runners, and would give discounts to Tsunami runners based on faction rating.

Street dealers and club dealers would tend to have different selections. Each dealer type would be more likely to have certain implants than others.


PROTO PHARMA
4) Proto Pharma Lab should have a drug dealer that sells all Proto Pharma products. Only members of Proto Pharma will be allowed to speak to this dealer. He would sell drugs at a significantly reduced price. The discount would be based on faction rating.


BIOTECH
5) Biotech HQ would sell Bone Enforcements and Implants. Only Biotech runners would be allowed to speak to this dealer. He would sell Bone Enforcements and implants at significantly reduced prices. The discount would be based on faction rating.


TANGENT TECH
6) Tangent Technologies would have weapons and armor dealers. Only Tangent brand products would be sold however (but this includes Power Armor). Only Tangent runners would be able to use these dealers. They would offer these products at a significantly reduced price. The discount would be based on faction rating.


DIAMOND REAL ESTATE
7) Diamond Real Estate HQ would have a Real Estate dealership. Only Diamond runners would be able to use it.

Not only that, but it would sell properties based on specific location; you could see the exact apartment location before purchasing. The location specific ones however would change price based on how many apartments currently exist in that building. More apartments at a location would mean the prices would go up.

Diamond runners would also get a discount there based on faction rating.


CITY ADMIN
8) CityAdmin HQ should have computers where you can look up the location of runners as well as other statistics on runners. Only members of CityAdmin should be able to use these terminals.


9) NCPD HQ should have terminals that you can use to specifically look up info on runners with extremely low SL. These terminals should also be able to activate a NavRay arrow which will dyanmically point you in the direction of a Negative SL runner of your selection. Only members of CityAdmin would be able to use these terminals. You would only be able to track inside the city or one zone away from the city however.


CITY MERC
10) There should be bounty terminals at the military base. Anyone can place a bounty on anyone else. However, when you look for bounties, if you aren't CityMerc, you will only see bounties you yourself have placed, and any bounties others have placed on you. When you place a bounty, you put money into the terminal; this will be the reward.

City Merc runners however will see all bounties. Any CityMerc may turn in the dogtags of a runner who has a bounty on his head. That CityMerc runner will then receive the reward.


FALLEN ANGELS
11) Fallen Angels members should get a discount at "tech vendors" (ones who sell Freezers and Laserbaldes) based on their faction rating.

12) There should be terminals or vendors that members of Fallen Angels can go to in Tech Haven to have their identities hidden from CityAdmin and NCPD. These terminals should also be capable of wiping bounties from CityMerc bounty terminals for a fee. Successful hacking would reduce the fee. Any wiped bounty would be refunded to the player who created the bounty. The explanation of the wiped bounty would be a database error or something of that ilk.


TWILIGHT GUARDIAN
13) Twilight Guardian members should get a discount at TG specific vendors based on their faction rating.

14) TG members inside the Canyon would be invisible to CityAdmin info terminals and to bounty terminals. This means bounties on their head would be invisible to City Mercs while that member of TG is inside the Canyon. Once they leave however, the bounty would become available once more.


NEXT
15) NEXT HQ would have vendors that are only usable by NEXT runners. NEXT runners would get a discount at these vendors based on their faction rating.

Duder
05-09-03, 21:47
Agreed, except Cityadmin should only trace people in the City, and 1 zone away from the city...

Nullifidian
05-09-03, 21:51
Originally posted by Duder
Agreed, except Cityadmin should only trace people in the City, and 1 zone away from the city...

Added this to the NCPD search.

Also modified the TG one slightly. While inside the Canyon, bounties on their head would not be visible in bounty terminals. Once they leave the Canyon though, those bounties would reappear.

Heavyporker
05-09-03, 21:52
some interesting ideas, many not so good.

You need to sort out Tsunami. TS ain't drugdealers.

And you need to sort DRE... you got a sentences out of wack... I don't understand it.
More apartments at a location would mean the prices would go up. wtf?!

Crahn already has vendors at its HQ... you're thinking of the PP3 one, that's just an administrative office for Crahn.

Yo's already sell crappy implants... you're messing things up with those other freelance vendors. BD dealers should be selling drugs, though, in the street.

CA HQ has a jobcenter. That's what your idea is called :rolleyes:

Duder
05-09-03, 21:55
Heavy, if you read the current edition of the Neocronicle, one article states that TS does sell and deliver Drugs...o_O


Id Also like to see Blackdragon sell a few "Unlabled" Weapons and items as well as the drugs...

Also, id like to see an improvement to the TS clubs, they are horrible. I mean, they have no use and ugly.

Nullifidian
05-09-03, 22:01
Originally posted by Heavyporker
some interesting ideas, many not so good.

You need to sort out Tsunami. TS ain't drugdealers.

Yeah, they own almost all of Pepper Park's real estate. Which is why it's fucked up that BLACK DRAGON is the one who sells Pepper Park apartments.

However, I have an idea about how to change things.... Recheck inital post in a few minutes.

EDIT: I changed it. Dealers on the street are for BD, dealers inside clubs are for TS.



And you need to sort DRE... you got a sentences out of wack... I don't understand it. wtf?!


What that means is that when a lot of people own apartments in a particular spot, then buying another at that spot would cost more. For example, if tons of people own apartments in Daton Hale, then Daton Hale apartments would be more expensive. The more apartments there are in Daton Hale, the more expensive Daton Hale apartments would be.




Crahn already has vendors at its HQ... you're thinking of the PP3 one, that's just an administrative office for Crahn.


Yes, there are vendors in the Abbey but they are the same as the vendors at every Yakarma. These vendors would sometimes have additional implants that aren't normally available at Yakarma. They would also give discounts to Crahn runners.



Yo's already sell crappy implants... you're messing things up with those other freelance vendors. BD dealers should be selling drugs, though, in the street. [/quote

Yes, but they don't sell anything different. These vendors would have random selections. They would also many times have implants that aren't available anywhere else in shops. Implants like the targetting computers, or construction chips.

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CA HQ has a jobcenter. That's what your idea is called :rolleyes:

Job center has nothing to do with anything I posted. The City Admin stuff is to find information on runners, not on jobs. The NCPD stuff is to actually be able to track negative SL runners inside and near the city.

Heavyporker
05-09-03, 22:09
Then shouldnt you be saying - "the LESS apartments in a block, the more expensive it is?

CA HQ Jobcenter has all the functions of any other terminal (yes, whacked) so why not just bung it in there?


I have said in so many of my previous idea threads -

-Stock should only be buyable from the Bank and StockX stores.
-Jobs above VeryEasy/Easy can ONLY be gotten from JobCenters or in Faction HQs for that specific faction

and so many more, I lost count.

Yes, its fucked that TS doesnt sell apts, but BD does! Damn?!

TS supposed to be property, porn, and games. BD supposed to be drugs and extortion.

Nullifidian
05-09-03, 22:17
Originally posted by Heavyporker
Then shouldnt you be saying - "the LESS apartments in a block, the more expensive it is?


Nope. Not in the real world either.

When more people want to live somewhere, the property value goes up. There are some places that are more appealing than other places. For example, many would like an apartment right above Medicare in Plaza 1. Putting this kind of price structure on apartments puts a kind of limit on the number of people in a particular apartment entrance. It also gives the game a realistic seeming real estate market.

Tregard
05-09-03, 22:19
Originally posted by Heavyporker
Then shouldnt you be saying - "the LESS apartments in a block, the more expensive it is?



When you have a lot of sales in one place in Real Estate, the property value goes up.

Heavyporker
05-09-03, 22:24
I'm talking about supply and demand.

Tregard
05-09-03, 22:28
Originally posted by Heavyporker
I'm talking about supply and demand.

I realize that, but real estate never really works strictly on supply and demand. A lot of the price of property is its perceived value and not how scarce. You could have a neighborhood with a lot of houses but if they are all owned by VIPs or movie stars the price will be enormous.

Nullifidian
05-09-03, 23:02
Ugh, I can't believe i had forgotten about NEXT. Maybe thats because there are like 3 NEXT runners in existance.

Too many damned factions in this game.:lol:

Heavyporker
05-09-03, 23:19
I am NExT, Nullifidan :wtf:

cracky
05-09-03, 23:21
You buy pepper apartments from black dragon because we deal with the evictions.

Nullifidian
05-09-03, 23:34
Originally posted by Heavyporker
I am NExT, Nullifidan :wtf:

Ah so you're the other guy!

I have 2 chars who are NEXT.

Mantus
05-09-03, 23:47
I really like the idea of getting a benefit for your faction rating. This should defiantly be considered. Good list Nullifidian the only thing is that some of the benifist are way better then others.


Crahn – I like this idea. Should sell PSI boosters for a good price.

Peper Park - I like the PP ideas allot, it would be cool to have totally random “used” implants for sale even ones that drop from mobs only but they would all have around 20/20 condition.

Also TS and BD runners should get a discount in all weapon, drug and restaurant vendors in PP based on their faction rating. But these discounts should not be as high as for PhotoPharma or Tangent in their specific fields.

PhotoPharma – drugs as well as chemical at a reduced price.

Biotech – should be all implants sold at Crytons as well as tools.

Tangent – sounds good.

Diamond – I think that choosing the location of the appt would give to high of an advantage. Otherwise Diamond runner receive a discount based on their faction rating in any Diamond shop.

City Admin – it would be totally pointless to be able to track runners in the city. Unless they are in PP the best you can do is yell at them and if they are in PP then chances are that they are there for a fight.

I think a better option would be to be able to track the runners last used GR.

City Mercs – sounds okay

Fallen Angels & Twilight Guardian – should have some better benefits, cant think of any.

NEXT – sounds good.

Nullifidian
06-09-03, 01:40
Originally posted by Mantus

Fallen Angels & Twilight Guardian – should have some better benefits, cant think of any.


Yeah, I had a lot of trouble trying to figure something out for TG.

TG however has locational advantages. Fallen Angels however need something perhaps a little better.


As for the issue with Diamond, I don't think it's an advantage OVER other runners. The idea behind it is that this would mean Diamond runners could sell those apartments to other runners. Each Diamond runner could be a potential real estate agent, if you will.


As for CityAdmin, the NCPD SL tracking IS helpful in the city. It doesn't just give location, it would create a navray arrow giving you the zone location and direction of the extreme negative SL runner of your choice. That's a rather powerful thing. CityAdmin runners could therefore become city law officers themselves. Only instead of standing guard in one place, they would be the reaching arm of the city; seeking out lawbreakers and bringing them to justice.

Keep in mind that runners with low SL can't hang around safe zones for the most part because they get shot by CopBots. Also remember that there are a multitude of sewers and basements in the city in addition to Pepper Park and the Outzone.

One might argue that finding low SL runners has no actual gain potential, but that's not true. Low SL runners have QBs that are much easier to hack and yield a lot more items. Killing low SL runners can be quite profitable indeed. To be able to track them anywhere, thus, would be far too much of a bonus. That's why it's limited to just the city and surrounding zones.



Oh, and as a note, the faction discount should stack with barter only to the point where there is still a gap between the lowest buying price and highest selling price.