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Why do we bitch so much about neocron, and then get so defensive if someone gives it a bad review?
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What are YOUR favorite and LEAST favorite things about neocron?
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What would you like to see added to the world of neocron? (keep it short heh)
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Have you ever mapped for unreal tournament or other FPS? If so do you have some sympathy for the devs at kk?
1a)
Personally i think bad reviews are constructive (normally) they highlight major issues with certain areas of gameplay and the experience, but i too defend neocron when someone slams it lol.
2a)
My favorite thing about neocron is the (ahem) variety of things to do, my least favorite is the whole "ive capped so i have to gank noobs" mentality.
3a)
I'd like to see, well to be honest more droner things like rc cars etc, a real to mos of he bugs (synchs, fatals etc.)
4a)
I have and mucho respect to the devs/mappers, the doy screenies look ace cant wait to play the maps lol.
Well im interested to know, keep it clean (no wanting to sex the hookers please).
Oath.:lol:
Why do we bitch so much about neocron, and then get so defensive if someone gives it a bad review?
Because by bitching about it in the customer only forums, we can ensure the designers know our problems with the game while ensuring that the problems aren't made public. (So as to keep a decent flow of new players.)
A bad review is simply there to defame the makers of the game, and therefore the people who enjoy it.
What are YOUR favorite and LEAST favorite things about neocron?
Favorite - People. Least Favorite - People.
What would you like to see added to the world of neocron? (keep it short heh)
content.
Have you ever mapped for unreal tournament or other FPS? If so do you have some sympathy for the devs at kk?
made TFC maps and it drove me insane. Hence my position about Neocrons development (give it time).
Why do we bitch so much about neocron, and then get so defensive if someone gives it a bad review?
Because the idea of Great Customer service is to give the customer what they want 100% of the time, without bitching at them we aint going to get what we want (not like we do anyways....:rolleyes:)
What are YOUR favorite and LEAST favorite things about neocron?
PvP | Dying :o
What would you like to see added to the world of neocron? (keep it short heh)
D-o-muthafuking-Y sometime this side of the century.......:rolleyes:
Have you ever mapped for unreal tournament or other FPS? If so do you have some sympathy for the devs at kk?
I tried....it was hard work (was for unreal 2k3) but nonetheless twas fun and kept me busy, and i know this IS NOT right.....
http://www.smalltimerivalry.com/sschost/alig/shot0047.JPG
:lol: :lol: :lol: O_o :rolleyes:
Pie'oh'pah
28-08-03, 11:41
Originally posted by Oath
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Why do we bitch so much about neocron, and then get so defensive if someone gives it a bad review?
I only started last night so cant bitch about it yet.
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What are YOUR favorite and LEAST favorite things about neocron?
Some guy shot the barrels I was hiding behind in the Lvl 4 cellars last night, then I got shot and died :(
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What would you like to see added to the world of neocron? (keep it short heh)
Dunno I'm a n00b
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Have you ever mapped for unreal tournament or other FPS? If so do you have some sympathy for the devs at kk?
Dont play it
Oath.:lol:
Cryotchekk
28-08-03, 11:46
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Why do we bitch so much about neocron, and then get so defensive if someone gives it a bad review?
2)
What are YOUR favorite and LEAST favorite things about neocron?
3)
What would you like to see added to the world of neocron? (keep it short heh)
4)
Have you ever mapped for unreal tournament or other FPS? If so do you have some sympathy for the devs at kk?
1) because were a bunch of hypocritical wankers
2)fav. killing. least fav. being poor
3)buff pistols :D DOY, freezer pistols bacl, light sabers that make swishy sound etc
4)no! KK get paid to do it!
Lmao poor pie oh pah.
Interesting reading guys lol, keep em coming
And good old spirit lol.
Oath.
Originally posted by Marx
Because by bitching about it in the customer only forums, we can ensure the designers know our problems with the game while ensuring that the problems aren't made public. (So as to keep a decent flow of new players.)
Isn't the customer only forums readable by anyone who just registers a forum account? I thought the "customer only" part was applied to posting only, i.e only those with a game account can post, everyone else can only read.
Or?
Originally posted by Oath
And good old spirit lol.
Wow im famous :) and its not from a screen ov me flat on my back dead as a door knob coz sumones managed to gank me!!
{MD}GeistDamnit
28-08-03, 12:57
Originally posted by Oath
1)
Why do we bitch so much about neocron, and then get so defensive if someone gives it a bad review?
2)
What are YOUR favorite and LEAST favorite things about neocron?
3)
What would you like to see added to the world of neocron? (keep it short heh)
4)
Have you ever mapped for unreal tournament or other FPS? If so do you have some sympathy for the devs at kk?
Oath.:lol:
answers of mine,
1- maybe because we love this game and want it to be the best it can be, sort of like a parent - but if your kid's a moron and u know it you will still punch whoever says it, no? hehe :D
2-favorite thing is the atmosphere and the "origonal" design and skill system, I loved it since beta. Least fav is probably the ghey politics of each server, and the sync errors :/
3-double the dungeons and more stuff in the waste lands, sort of like how it SHOULD look after a war, many big destroyed buildings littering the wastelands, and besically I would like the total game map size doubled.
4-Yes I have 6 years in the business of mapping modeling and I have coded in unreal script and am learning C and C++. however the problem kk has is not in mapping or modeling or even texturing, it's network code, which is insane hard to do.Many people I know in the industry will tell me the same thing, netcode is the most hard thing to work on as a coder. AI comes next, the rest is childsplay ;)
I think if kk truly only has 3 coders working on NC that the sync errors and crashes will be going on a lot longer ............... :/
EDIT: oh and no I have no simpathy for them, they get paid to do a job, and it seems they dont give a rat's ass about neocron. :(
Originally posted by Akasha
Wow im famous :) and its not from a screen ov me flat on my back dead as a door knob coz sumones managed to gank me!!
:lol: :lol: :angel:
Originally posted by Oath
1)
Why do we bitch so much about neocron, and then get so defensive if someone gives it a bad review?
2)
What are YOUR favorite and LEAST favorite things about neocron?
3)
What would you like to see added to the world of neocron? (keep it short heh)
4)
Have you ever mapped for unreal tournament or other FPS? If so do you have some sympathy for the devs at kk?
1)i dont think they bitch less at other mmorpgs.
2)i love the wastelands, and what i dont like is that the wastelands r to small
3) more zones
4) yes and mapping really takes alot more time than you can think
Originally posted by Itth
4) yes and mapping really takes alot more time than you can think
WHAT?!
we made a max payne map in like 5 mins..and we played it for 15....MAPPING IS NO HARD!!
(the map was one huge white room - with flying explosive barrels)
Originally posted by RuButt
WHAT?!
we made a max payne map in like 5 mins..and we played it for 15....MAPPING IS NO HARD!!
(the map was one huge white room - with flying explosive barrels)
dude i spent like 15 days doing a map and it still never got big. rofl
and huge white rooms r easy
aah, mems...
remember when we made it rain with bad guys?
in the room after the big white room white explosive barrels.
so fun
one long fucking hallway...and high...you couldnt see the roof!
when you had walked like 20 metres, u would hear a "aaaaaaaah" coming closer
then, *THUMP* 50 bad guys drops to the ground and dies...lol
yeah
and when we put 500 explosive barrels + bad guys in one place and spawned a sniper rifle. rofl.
I dont rememer that.... :confused:
WHERE YOU MAPPING WITH SOMEBODY ELSE!?!
I HATE YOU!!!
:angel: :angel: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
1)Why do we bitch so much about neocron, and then get so defensive if someone gives it a bad review?
2)What are YOUR favorite and LEAST favorite things about neocron?
3)What would you like to see added to the world of neocron? (keep it short heh)
4)Have you ever mapped for unreal tournament or other FPS? If so do you have some sympathy for the devs at kk?
1) Because we know the potential of this game, since most of us have experienced the opposition first hand. We want the best for it. And not all of us bitch so much, there will be many players who never come on the forums and complain at all.
2) Favourite = Winning a battle, and that stomach feeling you get when you're hacking an OP, and an attack may come at any time
Least Favourite = When the game/bad luck conspire to make you have a bad night, dying a lot and losing important items. Feeling helpless to prevent it is the worst feeling.
3) More players, via a vastly improved system for new players.
4) No I haven't, but I can imagine its quite hard, especially when dealing with the unknown of unique PC setups.
Originally posted by Selendor
4) No I haven't, but I can imagine its quite hard, especially when dealing with the unknown of unique PC setups.
Omg we have a winner, exactly my point lol, wuich is why i "patientlytm" await doy.
Makes for some interesting reading guys and gals, most impressive, also to clarify my first question, im not habving a go at you for bitching, but i wondr why we all bitch, AND then get so defensive over the game, im starting to feel like im involved in neocron, that i am in fact a cog i the machine, and thats why i get defensive.
I glad no one has tried to turn this into a flame fest, thanks guys.
Oath.
Oath i for one....and probably many others alike..... HATE _BUT_ also LOVE this game.....:confused: :wtf: :lol: split personality ;) thats why we bitch and also stick up for them few lads at MJS's gaffer with a modem.....
Omg just two realised teo of my favorite people have posted here lol, lo ali lo akasha lol.
A Quote for somthing not neocron that i think applies.
"Its like sex. The first few times are the biggest thrill in the world, then you stop for some reason and you miss it a hundred times worse than when you never did it. Then you start doing it reularly, and it becomes part of your everyday life... I mean you look forward to it, and its good, but its not the same as when you first started. Then you find yourself doing it less and less until one day its really good because you did something different Then for a few years you look for the different thing, then one day you look at yourself and your wearing a strange costume and a weird mask and chains and things..."
Taken from the Sla Industries Sourcebook: The contract directory
So you see.....keep with neocron or youll all run around in gimp masks with chains on your nipples lol.
@ ali, dont we all love and hate neocron lol, maybe we are all schizophrenic i know i am.
Read it and understand it but dont bone it.
oath.
Good idea, I'm gonna play while wearing porkchops strapped to my naked yet well-oiled body, to see if it makes it any more interesting tonight...
Originally posted by Oath
1)
Why do we bitch so much about neocron, and then get so defensive if someone gives it a bad review?
2)
What are YOUR favorite and LEAST favorite things about neocron?
3)
What would you like to see added to the world of neocron? (keep it short heh)
4)
Have you ever mapped for unreal tournament or other FPS? If so do you have some sympathy for the devs at kk?
1) Depends on the bad review.. I think a lot of bad reviews get panned because they appear to be written by people who haven't actually played neocron much. The game has bad points, but it's not usually the ones that people point out in the bad reviews.
2) favourite: sci-fi setting * levelling, although a major chore as you get higher, is relatively quick
least favourite: existance of 'classes' * weapon balance or lack thereof * specialisation * making teaming necessary instead of just encouraged * freezer/parashocks * PE being marketted as a JOAT * and the various elements that show a clear bias towards video game over virtual world.. though that's more a pet peeve than a criticisism of the game.. I suppose 'classes' falls under this too
Also I should point out that 'sci-fi setting' is a broad category, so covers a lot of things from weapons to enemies to locations to theme - just for anyone thinking 'gee, only 2 things under favourite.
3) Honestly don't know. New 'stuff' generally only lasts so long.. it's more things I want tweaked and changed (or, if I were getting my ideal mmorpg, things that require compeltely rewriting the game rules/mechanics)
4) I haven't. I do have sympathy though, as I can see how difficult creating a genuinely complex city would be. Having said that, it's their job not just a hobby kinda thing which negates some of the sympathy.
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