View Full Version : New Infos From Gameconvention !!DOY!!
Translated for You from the German Forum :
And yes my English is BAD :P
Digital Freak talked on the Gameconvention with Thantos
There was an offline Demo of the Dome running on the Laptop. All seamed to be finished and only the NPC have to be placed. The Graphics seem to look good, dark but with much details.
The bigger Textures (from size) are for the moment only for the Dome but probably they will come later with a Patch for Neocron too.
So the first question was about the Release, Release is about 4 weeks after they found a publisher for the download version. And what everyone knows (i guess) there will be a NC+Doy Bundele in stores an probably also a DOY CD the prize the production costs.
Martin J. Schweitzer is also on the Convension and trys to find a Publisher so let us all Hope.
To the Skills:
The Skills still hold there old cap. That means no Cap removing or changing of the Cap. But when the Skill is Capped the Experience gain will continue and not Stop like now. There will be a "Bonus Level up" when you gain a fix value of XP after Cap. They dont count to the Main Skill and also dont give you Points for the Subskill. (Digital Freak didnt understand all about that "Bonus Skill")
Fractions:
All Anti-CA/NC Fractions will Move with their HQ to the Dome Exept Twillight Guardian they will stay in the Canyon.
Doy Soldiers (Anti NC Fraction) can enter the Pepperpark by the secret entrance, but when they enter the Plaza they get Killed imediatly. But in PP they can make their bussines or what they want.
The NC friendly Fractions can also Rush the Dome like now the Canyon or the Base are Rushed ... but of course the Guards will attack them.
PA:
The Spy PA is Retail but Callash has to bring it in the story ... so only GM have them for the moment!
The PE PA is also finished from the Graphics, it has userclass Restriction PE only or so. This will be used in futur for other items too. The effects of the PE PA still arent decided so you have to wait for it.
LvL SPots:
In Doy there will be Sewers like in NC. And there will be some sidestreets where you can fight some mobs.
He also Flew trough Doy and he says its very large (?) and that there are 10 or more sectors, he was in a sector 10.
And then he tells to dont blame KK because they have a small Stand because it is payed by Niedersachsen and the lace is expensif ...
From Xantor:
There Are Casinos wre you can Gamble and play blackjack ...
And the Weapon shops aren't Named archer &wesson in Doy
To get drugs u also need Symphaties -> more he doesnt tell gues with BD but im not sure
From Obelix2:
Weapons:
So about the Weapons, there will be Fraction (i gues that Pro NC and ProDOY) specified weapons that can only be bought (i guess again) by there members but they have no Fraction Req. so they can be traded to everyone and made so avaible for everyone.
http://tdittel.gmxhome.de/pics/nc1.jpg
http://tdittel.gmxhome.de/pics/nc2.jpg
http://tdittel.gmxhome.de/pics/nc3.jpg
MayhemMike
23-08-03, 15:31
OMG , THANKS !!!!!! silly germans :P am i first?
Why silly Germans im from Luxembourg ...
Oh i edited the link to the roiginal post and the pics inside
Why dont you learn German? so i wouldnt have to Translate for you .... :D
!!!!!1111!!!11!!11!!1weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
CD version of doy, might mean i won't have to spend like 3 days d/ling it, weeeeeeee (damn 56k and british telecom....!:mad: )
Originally posted by Possessed
!!!!!1111!!!11!!11!!1weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
CD version of doy, might mean i won't have to spend like 3 days d/ling it, weeeeeeee (damn 56k and british telecom....!:mad: )
what better reason for getting broadband than DoY. start saving those pennies.:D
MayhemMike
23-08-03, 15:39
no hatin , i joke :P Thanks for the translation :D and pics , i don't ever look at the fucking german form , how come they didn't care to share this with us ? Thanks for takin your time to translate for us :P
Originally posted by enablerbr
what better reason for getting broadband than DoY. start saving those pennies.:D
Not a money issue, just the fact that i leave in a remote-ish place and my exchange hasn't be actived.... bastids at BT watch their pennies too much!
MayhemMike
23-08-03, 15:50
Stickey :D
WOW.
Basically.
WOW.
I want it now :(
Originally posted by Judge
WOW.
Basically.
WOW.
I want it now :(
I got it now.
Oh... you mean DoY? ;)
Yeah, thanks for the translation! Looks very cool!
-Krll
Here is the Translation of the German Startingpost about the GC, requested by xkorpio.
Seems i wasnt fast enough to be the first :)
New infos from the Games Convention
I was today on the GC and got some Infos. If they didnt get lost in the other big Thread (Some infos was posted
by madlex1 yet) i open a new one (please dont bitch me about that)
I have naturally talked to the presend KK Employe (Thanatos) and sqeezed some infos out of him.
On his Laptop you could see an offline Version of the Dome of York. It looked Ready so far, just the Npc's
was missing yet. The grafiks look really good (look the Pictures), dark but very detailed. YOu still know that the new
Textures are better than the old ones and after i asked Thanatos couldnt exclude the possibilety that the old ones got
also reworked. But if that happens so not on Doy Relase, maybe to a later Time. And there we come to the Question who
deeply move us, "When is the Relase of Doy?". If allready rumored KK Looking for a new Publisher and exactly that determine
when Doy got relased. Martin J. Schwiezer was also on the GC, (unfortunatly didnt saw him) looking for potential Publisher
who grant a good pice of Advertising. KK says after Contract it least a maximum of 4 Weeks bevore Doy got Relased.
Under the New Publisher they will offer a Bundle NC+Doy and eventually also a Single CD of Doy for Self Costs.
To the new Skill System i could also get some Infos. The single skills wont raised up definely. But the Expirience Cap
will be removed and you can get theoretical unlimitied Exp Points in the Main skills. Sometimes you get a "Bonus Level Up"
How they affect the Chars i have not understand exactly. But they dont COunt to the Main skills and you dont get Points
to put in the Subskills. I have interpret it that you can maybe Aim better with a Int "Bonus Skill". Thats my own
Interpretation and not a Statment from the Officials but the Boni will have some Affect.
To the Factions i got following Informations. All current anti CA Factions will move their HQs to DoY. The actually Hqs will
stay as "Embassy" to their old Locations so the TG Canyon wont get empty. How allready known can the Antis the acess NC
during the Secret Passages in the Pepper Park where they can Trade contrabrand Stuff from Doy. But they get shoot if they
Try to Acess the Plaza or the Viarosso. If the NC Factions try to Acess Doy they get also Attacked but it will be possible to
"Invade" Doy with enough good Runners. The Wastlands wont change with Doy.
I also asked about the new PA's. The Spy PA is allready in the Retail, of course GM Only atm. The PE PA will comming soon,
KK still not sure about about the Skill Setup of them. The Introducion of that PA's is handed to Callash and his Storyline.
The PE PA was the Reason to Introduce Claas Spezific Restrictions for Items. It will be Possible to give Items Claas
Restrictions in the Future but existing Items wont be affected by that. To the Level Spots Thanatos told me that Doy not just
have Sewers but also some small side roads in the Sectors where Mobs can get killed. Im just flyed a bit through Doy and must
say that hes Really Huge and have at least 10 Sectors. I was in a Sector_10 so it must have at least that mutch *G*
And please dont bitch KK about their stand. He is that small because he got sponsored by Niedersachsen and the Payments
for it are expensive. KK had surely present themself mutch better but they got the Info they are on the GC just this week.
So far to my Visit of the GC. It was really nice there and there was mutch else to see. Impressive was the Stand of Nokia
with the n-gage. They was present with 2 small and one big stand. Ex Neocron Publisher CDV was presend with a mutch smaller
stand than last year and if Breed dont get a big success their days may count.
Sounds like the "Bonus level" will maybe only count towards things like damage cap/frequency cap? Of maybe bonus level will be class specific skills or something?
I do wildly theorise. :)
-Krll
pity the person who took those screenshots didn't try blagging the demo of DoY. then it might have found it's way onto the net.
No Thantos was showing him the Demo dont know if he even had the chance to touch the keyboard :)
But why doesnt KK publish it? i would like it :p
digitalfreak
23-08-03, 16:45
Thanks to Unbleest and Tolots for the translation of my Post.
I also started to translate but yesterday I was to tired to finish it.
Hope you all like the info.
One thing to add:
I asked if it will be possible to enter the Tsunami clubs in Pepper Park without to be punished by the waiters. Answer: "Yes I think we could do that."
So long...
[EDIT]
@Unbleesed
It wasn't a real demo it was a... lets say graphicle demonstration. Only Plaza and DoY was inside the demo. And yes... I touched the keypad. The game was in noclip mode I was flying trough the DoY sectors.
VictorKruger
23-08-03, 16:49
so the DOY expansion isn't just a NC urban legend :p
I can't wait untill it comes out.
The bonus level is probably a extra point to your main stat but you dont get the 5 subskill points to spend, thats what It sounds like to me anyway. This would make it easier to hit the requirements on higher weapon's but still only have the subskill stat's that your class can normally hit :)
ReefSmoker
23-08-03, 17:56
Reckon all this over-capping they're on about could be to do with the 6th skill that has been proven to exist already in retail ? My sixth skill is now level 47, I hope it ends up counting for something.
Take care,
ReefSmoker
Originally posted by ReefSmoker
Reckon all this over-capping they're on about could be to do with the 6th skill that has been proven to exist already in retail ? My sixth skill is now level 47, I hope it ends up counting for something.
Take care,
ReefSmoker
Yeah that's what i'm thinking (waits for pitspawn).
DoY is something to keep us around, but when you actually see
it and know its real, that's something to keep you playing altogether :)
My question is, all anti CA factions goto Dome HQ. What happens
to Neocron city itself? And with Dome and all those new zones,
i hope there are still people in plaza, viarosso and not everyone
in dome (but i can imagine the first week people will be in dome
or switch just to stay there, live there, stare at walls) :))
Roc-a-fella
23-08-03, 18:10
Sounds great, thanks for the translation! But i still dont get one thing so a faction like Black Dragon they are anti-cityadmin so will their HQ be moved to DOY?
Whiety Bulger
23-08-03, 18:28
OMG sex!!
There Are Casinos wre you can Gamble and play blackjack ...
Thank you :D
Original monk
23-08-03, 18:57
TY for translating, this was all extremely intresting
IronMonkey
23-08-03, 19:07
FBI well tbh if people don't stay at NC itself and nc factions my bet is they will be loosing out on alot of stuff. For instance peper park and the outzone areas will become a black market. You will probably have alot of faction only bought items. There for DoY factions will ahve to trade with NC factions and so forth.. this is where CM and BD will get alot of play. It will also increase tensions between FA who will have trouble getting the ca/tt/DoY stuff, unless its smuggled to them from TG. After lookign at alot of snippets here and there about DoY. I can say that MJS and crew have put alot of thinking into dome of york. And the mainr eason the game feels hollow at the top now is because alot of these things are missing. Since i believe the dome was originally supposed to come with retail. As more info releases people will start to understand alot about the current shallowness state of the game now.
Ahh thats what BD is for. No wonder next and proto and tangent are not hostile to them etc etc. The same will go for alot of players of CM. There will be a big 'ahhhh'
It's just to bad that KK got screwed with CDV because well....had they not this all might have come alot sooner. As a close friend of mine tends to say, "I can't wait to see this game when its finished" It is going to literally be a whole different ballgame, and introduce alot of politics to it
VirtualReGen
23-08-03, 19:35
SWEET thanks for the info !!!!!! weeeeeeeeeeeeeeee SEX!
Vampire222
23-08-03, 19:42
THIS INFO ROXXX WUBB KK!!!
Originally posted by \\Fényx//
The bonus level is probably a extra point to your main stat but you dont get the 5 subskill points to spend, thats what It sounds like to me anyway. This would make it easier to hit the requirements on higher weapon's but still only have the subskill stat's that your class can normally hit :)
No he said you don't get a main skill increase and you get 0 points. I agree that it sounds like some special skill that you aquire, e.g. you cap str at 150 mil xp and then when you hit 200 mil xp you get the bonus which is runspeed decreased by only 25% when holding a cannon instead of 50% (for example, and I know the runspeed doesn't work like that) but that kind of thing.
Originally posted by Scikar
No he said you don't get a main skill increase and you get 0 points. I agree that it sounds like some special skill that you aquire, e.g. you cap str at 150 mil xp and then when you hit 200 mil xp you get the bonus which is runspeed decreased by only 25% when holding a cannon instead of 50% (for example, and I know the runspeed doesn't work like that) but that kind of thing.
Whatever it turns out to be, it will be something for capped players to aim towards for a while.
-Krll
best thread EVER. This game is great already, but DoY is going to make a big impact on player count which will be great. More big clans more OP wars and MORE PKING!
Originally posted by Possessed
!!!!!1111!!!11!!11!!1weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
CD version of doy, might mean i won't have to spend like 3 days d/ling it, weeeeeeee (damn 56k and british telecom....!:mad: )
does u not have a friend who can burn it on cd and send by post?
mfg...Bit
Psychoninja
23-08-03, 19:54
Well, tbh most of this isn't new info.
It's been out and about for a while, pretty much what KK is doing is just giving out the same info again, the only thing thats new to me is the gambling bit.
Originally posted by Unbleest
Translated for You from the German Forum :
PA:
The Spy PA is Retail but Callash has to bring it in the story ... so only GM have them for the moment! FINALLY! Some GOOD news for us spies. Now, if Callash would only pull another 3 day miricle ;)
Psychoninja
23-08-03, 21:00
Good news?
You guys aren't happy with the RAD suit and the Stealth?
o_O
Originally posted by Krll
Whatever it turns out to be, it will be something for capped players to aim towards for a while.
-Krll
Yep.
So KK PLEASE FREAKING BRING DOME OF YORK ALREADY!
bleh, DOY is too far away. It's taking forever to find a publisher, then we'll have to wait a month after that.
Losing hope. :(
i dont know why u guys are happy, doy is just some new zones and weapons, its not going to save neocron, it will ruin it
Vampire222
23-08-03, 21:54
ZZ is rite... doy = pure hatred and destruction!
Smooth. That information has made me chill and wait for DoY until christmas now... Im interested as to what those bonus skills can be (I wonder if they will be like fallout specialisations)
Originally posted by Krll
Sounds like the "Bonus level" will maybe only count towards things like damage cap/frequency cap? Of maybe bonus level will be class specific skills or something?
I do wildly theorise. :)
-Krll
right, i think it like puts an invisible bonus on your skills, like the 169 skill bonus maybe?
Originally posted by \\Fényx//
The bonus level is probably a extra point to your main stat but you dont get the 5 subskill points to spend, thats what It sounds like to me anyway. This would make it easier to hit the requirements on higher weapon's but still only have the subskill stat's that your class can normally hit :)
I dont think it will be like this either cause that would mean Tanks and Psi will be able to get to the higher PAs and KK said that only capped, imped and drugged Tanks/Monks will be able to get the top PA(s).
BlackPrince
23-08-03, 22:39
So City forces will be able to raid the Dome, but we can't raid plaza? :wtf:
thats a big Whiskey Tango Foxtrot.
I'm sure you can but its just gonna be hard. I wonder if the DoY Guards in the city will be as hard as Copbots...
VirtualReGen
23-08-03, 22:44
thought they gonna remove safe zones after doy? err dunno
I really doubt that with everyone who would complain and how they promised a PvP server like Neptune ages ago.
Neptune come on!!
Originally posted by VirtualReGen
thought they gonna remove safe zones after doy? err dunno
What we've heard so far was removing copbots from PP. No mention of changing the safe zones... yet.
-Krll
if they removed the safe zones would'nt that be just what there making Neptune for?
wOOt: that will keep me quiet for another 2 months.
(starts leveling his TG character)
I really really hope they remove the safezones. If CopBots are gonna KoS us anyway I don't see a problem. Especially if there are CopBots on every zone line.
I don't want Viarossa to go completely though, and plaza should still have copbots...
Pepper Park should be BOOM! THWOK! KABOOM! KLUMP! CHACHACACAH! BANG! KUCHUNK! Batman style!
keep viarosso a safe zone and make plaza unsafe and a few more guards.
Originally posted by Rizzy
keep viarosso a safe zone and make plaza unsafe and a few more guards.
I can imagine Plaza becoming empty and everyone tradeskilling in VR3.
I dunno really, I think alot of people are too set in their ways to move. Either way it would still be good, even if they move to via it will make a pleasant change :)
Yeah but I want people to kill. :p
Originally posted by Scikar
Yeah but I want people to kill. :p
yea tradeskill gimped spie's is all you can kill :p :lol:
man level up your PE more or atleast get a decent weapon and stop being stealthed 95% of the time O_o
:p
Originally posted by \\Fényx//
yea tradeskill gimped spie's is all you can kill :p :lol:
man level up your PE more or atleast get a decent weapon and stop being stealthed 95% of the time O_o
Almost there now, 2 dex and 5 con to go, then some lomming. I beat a SXR tank and spy by myself in TH, I got the tank down to like 5 hp then he just vanished, the spy kept stealthing and never really hurt me, then I got the tank again and again almost killed him, then I lagged and when it stopped I was dead. :(
Still I think I could get you now. :)
Whiety Bulger
24-08-03, 04:58
Originally posted by Hayato
DoY is going to make a big impact on player count which will be great.
Even the hottest hoe needs a good pimp and CDv is a terrible pimp.
So in German Forum are now some people telling totaly other stuff then Digital Freak did:
There is someone saying that TG will get a Hugh HQ in the DOY .... and that the caps will be removed ... so i dont know whats correct
But i Guess we will find it out soon cause it seems also that KK has found a Publisher ... :) we will see that in a month then or so
KK FOUND A PUBLISHER?!? I thought it was more of a maybe if/perhaps scenario.
I said it seems that they found a publisher ...
i Wasnt at Game Con and i dont know if the people tell the truth i just traslate the "important" infos from the german threads into this thread so u know what the germans also know :)
removing safe zones would be awesome.. lol
then i wouldnt have to level a new char on neptune :P
Spy<VS>Spy
24-08-03, 20:37
4 weeks is still to very long, finding a publisher should have been done last month...
nonamebrandeggs
24-08-03, 20:51
4 weeks and it's out!? Omfg *Puts Xs on his calander*
VVerevvolf
24-08-03, 21:00
There is no information wheather they found a publisher or not.
The only thing they said is, that the publishers KK talked to, think about it.
And safezones won't be removed.
Hehe they remove safe zones then i'm still happy. Dont need to worry about Neptune but they wont do it so its just wishfull thinking :rolleyes:
I still want it though....
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