View Full Version : Why do people think Pk'ing is the Fountain of youth. *CarebearFlaminTimeYetAgain*
just because someone enjoys the PVP aspects of the game doesnt reduce them in age or make them the mentality of a 12 y/o. if that were the case, neocron would make much much more money from retirement centers all around the world.
"FZ: How will you handle Player killing? A PK "switch", different servers or what?
JS: No, we don't care. PvP is a big element of the game. If you are a peaceful gamer, then stay in the moderated regions...
"
JS is MJS ( Ceo of Reakktor, creators of NC )
FZ: Fragzone, Interviewing him.
if u bitches want a pvp free game here -> ww.pristontale.com
its a free beta atm, NO PVP AT ALL GO CAREBEAR UR SELF AWAY
btw for you who comment on this saying you dont mind pvp but RPK(Random Player Killing) is just stupid... how is it stupid? because its not RP(Role Playing)? then oviously YOU are the stupid one if you think that. RPK is just as role playing as non RPK. randomly killing people of any faction or char type can be simply put as *drum roll* psycho serial killing fucked up dont care bout anyone else person whos gonna kill anyone who he fuckin wants to kill *end drum roll*
and next thing someone will say to defend Carebeardom is "this isnt quake or half life you shouldnt kill anyone" well omehgosh ur like so totally right ITS NEOCRON i can kill anyone i fuckin choose to. what is this? wahhh? a Mmropg and a fps? thats at least what it has been since it was created.... or has that changed... i didnt see that in any patch notes.... if u seen any patch notes stating "neocron no longer has fps genre to it" then plz lost a link cuz i wanna read it
and closing statement:
i also love noob pkin, i dont care if they are new or not, im bored ima cause them the difficulty to get back to where they were even if its rite outside there apt even if its on other side of the nc map and they got no grs, i get bored so i create fun. but dont get me wrong, i help people out too, i bought a noob cnstr a TL 150 tool from crytons just the other day bcuz he only had a TL 75 and asked me if i could loan him money for a tool. im not cold hearted, i jus have fun when i wanna have fun.
if you dont like Pvp, put LE in, i had someone say today "i dont have a exra slot for the LE"... well to fuckin bad take out one of ur imps and put LE in if u dont wanna b kiled. they dont even punish people for usin LE's anymore. LE'd people arent fucked with higher req's on armor / weapons any more, and from what ive seen, theres no less exp gained. and yes i have a LE char in 1 slot of my 4 slots.
oh and i bet someone will get on here and say 'its people like you who ruin this game' . and to them, i say, no its people like you. dont know what game your playin, well read the description of the game before you play it and read its history, full of death and curruption.
Originally posted by Arcadius
When was that?
theres a link to the interview on the reakktor site, dont b lazeh
IronMonkey
21-08-03, 07:25
shujin erm
There is a difference between pvp and
repeated ganking
GR ganking
RPK ganking of newbies
Allied faction ganking
6v1 ganking and than DMing and talking shit about it
A true roleplayer who roleplays his PKing wont dm u and talk shit about it. This is how people end up saying you are 12-19 years old. Because an adult will tend to say damn man nice fight. He will have some respect for himself but also for his opponent.
What people need to understand is there has to be unwritten rules of respect for this game to expand and thrive. If you totally turn it into a newbie gankfest. It won't be getting very far. What most of the hardcore pk'ers want is to turn it into just that. KK has to find a semblance of balance between the 2. Allowing non PVPers to have some enjoyment of clan world while at the same time not having to worry about getting raped at every turn. This si why they have done some of the things with SL and such. It isnt to stop whiners. It's to try and make the game mroe acceptable for people with many different playstyles. The problem is the hardcore PKer thinks there shouldnt be any other playstyle. You trash someone who doesnt have his LE in than you talk shit to him when he does. Don't get me wrong but i love pvp. I love op wars. I love pepper park brawls. What i do not like is how most do not accept that there is and has to be more balance between both worlds. See I want this game to succeed. I am sure KK does too. There are manyr easons why it isn't succeeding and it isnt all CDV's fault. People should open their eyes sometimes. Becasue alot of the problems are clear as day. And soem of them have to do with the RPKing issues.
Originally posted by IronMonkey
shujin erm
There is a difference between pvp and
repeated ganking
GR ganking
RPK ganking of newbies
Allied faction ganking
6v1 ganking and than DMing and talking shit about it
A true roleplayer who roleplays his PKing wont dm u and talk shit about it. This is how people end up saying you are 12-19 years old. Because an adult will tend to say damn man nice fight. He will have some respect for himself but also for his opponent.
duno what kinda perfect world ur livin in, but neocron aint one. someone dont kill u for fun and say "nice fight"
allied faction gankin, solution: LE
gr gankin, solution: LE
RPK gankin of noobs, solution : LE
6v1 Gankin, solution: LE, or get your own group
a true roleplayer doesnt accuse other people who play differently than them of not roleplaying
"And soem of them have to do with the RPKing issues. "
yea... which ones... theres basicly not even any penalty for dying, omg ur gonna have to get poked and shit oh fuckin well and you might drop some armor in qb, oh no...
With the changes in LEs, i don't see why this is even an argument. If someone is repeatedly ganking you and harassing you then put your LE in until you are at a skill level to do something about it or keep it in.
edit: i played until about /20 on my saturn droner with an LE, its actually quite nice to be able to level wherever you want without having to get "ganked" by a capped tank while i'm droning. Easy solution.
Originally posted by bounty
With the changes in LEs, i don't see why this is even an argument. If someone is repeatedly ganking you and harassing you then put your LE in until you are at a skill level to do something about it or keep it in.
edit: i played until about /20 on my saturn droner with an LE, its actually quite nice to be able to level wherever you want without having to get "ganked" by a capped tank while i'm droning. Easy solution.
exactly, no fuckin point for people to bitch and cry about people RPKin anymore, they can put LE in cuz it dont fuckin limit them cept they cant join a clan, oh no cant join a clan to fuckin bad clans fight, LE'd people dont.
IronMonkey
21-08-03, 07:37
bounty there isnt a problem. The problem lies in veteran players who help the newbies. The firsta dvice every newbie i have met has gottenw as to take their LE out. See if you read the LE you might actually find out that all the things they changed about it are still listed there as beign negatives. So enw players don't know any better. And alot of veteran players seem to liek to tell new players as soona s they see them to take their LE's out.
As for my perfect world shujin. I have been commented on nice fihgt many of times, and gave the same comment. Perhaps if you didnt dm the player talkign shit you might recieve the same comment.
As for the 12 year old mentallity shujin perhaps you shoudl read how you have responded so far to what i ahve said. It might help you understand why people say the whoel 12 year old thing.
Originally posted by IronMonkey
As for the 12 year old mentallity shujin perhaps you shoudl read how you have responded so far to what i ahve said. It might help you understand why people say the whoel 12 year old thing.
IM is right.
If I find you killing newbies (especially people new to the game) I will kill you myself.
Originally posted by IronMonkey
bounty there isnt a problem. The problem lies in veteran players who help the newbies. The firsta dvice every newbie i have met has gottenw as to take their LE out. See if you read the LE you might actually find out that all the things they changed about it are still listed there as beign negatives. So enw players don't know any better. And alot of veteran players seem to liek to tell new players as soona s they see them to take their LE's out.
As for my perfect world shujin. I have been commented on nice fihgt many of times, and gave the same comment. Perhaps if you didnt dm the player talkign shit you might recieve the same comment.
i dont dm the person i usually kill them and they dm me and say why did u do that, and i jus explain to them i was bored and wanted to. and if its a noob that asks why i did it, i usually feel bad and offer money to em.
and like i said, i fuckin help noobs to, but that dont mean i dont think noobs should b killed ;P when i fuckin first started my noob char 0mega i was in sewers lvl 1 in plaza, and a damn noob pked me... noobs fuckin pk eachother, why not help em out and kill em all so they dont gotta worry ;D
anyway,. the only thing that pisses me off when someone dms me after i kill them and says im not RPing.
this [edited for violation of the forum rules ] chick not the cnst'r, some psi, fuckin DM'd me and said all americans are dumbass's that dont know how to RP. and wanna know why she said that, because i killed her friend. a rank 62/63 (yes i remember the exact rank) PE with a liberator. thats a ** pe which is enemy faction ( was usin my TG char when i killed her ) and she fuckin had the nerve to say im a fuckin RPKer for killin her?
[ edited for violation of the forum rules - flaming ]
Well the part I kind of disagree with is even if you don't say anything to the person you killed, or tell them nice fight or whatever alot of the times you still get directs about you being an asshole.
I do agree with you there ironmonkey, that is definitely the first thing newbs are told. I was guilty of it at one time, when there was a huge disadvantage to having one in. But that is really not the fault of the person that pks. Besides, if you are complaining about the DM's and the lack of maturity, this is kind of a "do whatever you want" game. I like the lack of rules and the freedoms the provides. Being able to act out on your emotions in anyway you see fit is great. And if you don't like the constant DM's or the langauge someone uses on a server, there is a great feature called "ignore." I use it on many people that do nothing but spam on the trade channel. It works great!!
i dont really give a fuck about sayin hi im gonna kill u now even though u are not enemy faction, or saying good fight after i kill someone, i fuckin kill them just to piss them off alot of the time, how pissed would you be if someone went up to you and said oy ol chap would u mind me havin a go at you. then killin u and saying, o golly good fight there ol chap
also to tell u the truth when my noob is ganked i really dont care, its jus givin me extra con exp
I think that would piss me off alot if somebody kept saying o golly chap alot.
Originally posted by cracky
I think that would piss me off alot if somebody kept saying o golly chap alot.
:lol: ;D yea maybe i should do that ;D omfg ima do that for now on
I totally agree with what shujin has to say!
We all got Pked at some point in the game whether u were a noob or not at the time. Back in the day when i was a noob Megaman used to gank the crap out of me all the time! :mad:
I soon realised that when i become big and strong I would be doing the same :D So now that im pking all the time I always get bitched at by my victim o_O to be honest with the amount of shit they talk they should really play another game. Also Iron monkey was saying stuff about RP pking..... there are no rules to ganking someone...
You see your enemy go kill him, who cares whether he just gr'ed into where you are, repeated ganking I mean that only happens if the runner is [ edited for violation of the forum rules - offensive ] and gr's back to the location repeatedly (asking to be ganked imo) and 6v1 ganking ok that is a bit much but when u and ur buddies are together well im sure they all want a piece of the enemy.
IronMonkey
21-08-03, 07:46
shujin red = dead = rpk.
I believe thats why the person said you were RPking her friend lol. All I am saying is "put your LE in" is not a valid solution. KK knows this. They are trying to find ways of solving the problem. Let them do their jobs. They want their game to succeed. I am sure you want the game to succeed as well. Wouldnt you liek it if the servers had 1000 players on them at all times? Mixed with people who love pvp people who dont people who onyl want to rp people who only want to cst. Those are all possibilities if you dont limit a non pvper to 'put in your LE n00b'
10k fileplanet downloads, yet how many new players have we got shujin? Why is it they dont stay? I could make a long laundry list. 1 of those things on the list is the pvp system. To have any fun int he game at all later on in life you have to pvp etc. There are alot of flaws in this.
the only time i even care if im killed is if i think i might have to get a mc5 poked back in
wtf they are workin on ways to solve this problem, there is no fuckin problem, u get killed u gr back to medi the end, the solution and only soilution there should be is LE, if u dont want fuckin pvp LE damnit
Originally posted by Tupac
I totally agree with what shujin has to say!
We all got Pked at some point in the game whether u were a noob or not at the time. Back in the day when i was a noob Megaman used to gank the crap out of me all the time! :mad:
I soon realised that when i become big and strong I would be doing the same :D So now that im pking all the time I always get bitched at by my victim o_O to be honest with the amount of shit they talk they should really play another game. Also Iron monkey was saying stuff about RP pking..... there are no rules to ganking someone...
You see your enemy go kill him, who cares whether he just gr'ed into where you are, repeated ganking I mean that only happens if the runner is a retard and gr's back to the location repeatedly (asking to be ganked imo) and 6v1 ganking ok that is a bit much but when u and ur buddies are together well im sure they all want a piece of the enemy.
OK 6v1? ok we'll wait 30 minutes till 5 more of your buddies come so we can have a nice even fair battle? What is that? your 5 other buddies consist of 3 ppu's and 2 apus? Oh okay, then i'll definitely wait for an "even" battlefield. HUH??? they aren't online and will have to wait 2 hours?!?!......YES!!! GREAT IDEAR
The 10k fileplanet downloads are people reinstalling neocron because their install corrupted.
Originally posted by bounty
OK 6v1? ok we'll wait 30 minutes till 5 more of your buddies come so we can have a nice even fair battle? What is that? your 5 other buddies consist of 3 ppu's and 2 apus? Oh okay, then i'll definitely wait for an "even" battlefield. HUH??? they aren't online and will have to wait 2 hours?!?!......YES!!! GREAT IDEAR
alot of the time they would wait actually just for the fun, but if they dont, oh fuckin well, u shouldnt have ran into them
IronMonkey
21-08-03, 07:50
look ill say it again I PVP 90% of the time im playing................
The point is you guys have to understand that the NON PVPer has a perspective and a side to the story. Yet most here seem to think they don't. That is what i think is wrong here. Is that you allw ant it to be your game and the LE players are stuck hunting alone, they cant join any form of clan. They can't do pretty much anything later on in life. This is why so many players take their LE out and just bitch when they get kileld. Because in order to have fun they are forced to do so. It isn't right.
the point of my sarcasm is that its not always convienient and NEVER ever ever ever an even playing field. (unless you count same classes with different resists even)
Why should a non pvper stay in a game with a system they don't like. The system shouldn't be changed to people who would probably enjoy another game anyways, that will only cause problems.
Originally posted by IronMonkey
look ill say it again I PVP 90% of the time im playing................
The point is you guys have to understand that the NON PVPer has a perspective and a side to the story. Yet most here seem to think they don't. That is what i think is wrong here. Is that you allw ant it to be your game and the LE players are stuck hunting alone, they cant join any form of clan. They can't do pretty much anything later on in life. This is why so many players take their LE out and just bitch when they get kileld. Because in order to have fun they are forced to do so. It isn't right.
plz show me the non pvp'rs story in neocron, never seen before. and LE's can still team, they dont have to hunt alone, as i said i got a LE char
they cant do pretty much anythin later on in life? wtf is a non pvp to do? sit around in plaza 1 and construct, research or wtf ever, oviously anythin as long as its non pvp
"because in order to have fun they are forced to do so"
and finally, the whole point of my topic, killing anyone, for *drum roll* FUN *end drum roll*
and im leavin this damn thread post if u want, i dont really give a fuck :o im goin teh bed and get up and see how many more flames are on me when i wake up
ps bounty "the point of my sarcasm is that its not always convienient and NEVER ever ever ever an even playing field. (unless you count same classes with different resists even)"
thats why u can take LE in and out at will, without even needing someone to poke you.
So what are you trying to say bounty? If me and my clannies where to run into a enemy clan member E.g 1 member of the enemy clan. Only 1 member of my clan is allowed to attack? bullshit i think not
IronMonkey
21-08-03, 07:55
because cracky. Notice somthing? This game is the best there is for pvp and team combat there is in any mmog yet there is only over 100n people on saturn right now. Oh thats right its all CDV's fault. So wait theres no need toe xpand the game make it betetr in many ways so that ur universe can get bigger and bigger, while have all different types of players playing it. Lets just take out all the balance changes all the added places everything NEW thats been changed about the game. Because well liek you said why shoudl they change the game for peole who didnt liek it.
N00b shujin
Didn't you hear I PK people and that automaticaly makes me some little kid fresh off counterstrike who for some reason has no biz playing neocron.
theres not a fuckin lack of people bcuz pvp and rpkers, thats prolly the only thing bringin people to the game imo, and it is CDV's fault, i have never seen any advertisements anywhere of neocron.
and it is not in any gamestores cept EB, and all eb stores carry ONE copy of it
Originally posted by KimmyG
N00b shujin
Didn't you hear I PK people and that automaticaly makes me some little kid fresh off counterstrike who for some reason has no biz playing neocron.
*hump o_O
Dade Murphey
21-08-03, 07:57
Originally posted by IronMonkey
look ill say it again I PVP 90% of the time im playing................
The point is you guys have to understand that the NON PVPer has a perspective and a side to the story. Yet most here seem to think they don't. That is what i think is wrong here. Is that you allw ant it to be your game and the LE players are stuck hunting alone, they cant join any form of clan. They can't do pretty much anything later on in life. This is why so many players take their LE out and just bitch when they get kileld. Because in order to have fun they are forced to do so. It isn't right.
I agree with IM here...I'm not real big on the pvp system in the game...but I like the SETTING of the game...that's the biggest reason I stay around...(well that and some of the friends I've made)...I've wanted a ShadowRun MMO for a long time and thanks to Microsoft this is probably as close as I will ever get...I think the PvP and the reasons for PvP in NC need some touching up...as it is it's all rather shallow at the moment...there needs to be options for LE users as well...LE clans...they shouldn't be able to get ops...but it would atleast give them a sense of community for themselves...and other options...like secondary LE only Epics...etc...
edit: and not to insult anyone here...but I believe Shinjin or whatever the name is showed where the assumed immaturety lvl comes from in the last couple posts...:rolleyes:
Yes I'd be fine if they took out everything new and went back before specialization.
Anyways my point is this game is for pvp when it starts to cater to other things the pvp aspect gets hurt.
Addition: Why would their be LE clans I can't see the logic behind it. Factions let people form clans to claim them territory and make them more money by doing so.
IronMonkey
21-08-03, 07:59
Originally posted by Shujin
theres not a fuckin lack of people bcuz pvp and rpkers, thats prolly the only thing bringin people to the game imo, and it is CDV's fault, i have never seen any advertisements anywhere of neocron.
and it is not in any gamestores cept EB, and all eb stores carry ONE copy of it
lol ok shujin if you say so. Your right. I'll just stop and agree with you here. None of the newbeis have ever quit because of the way they got repeatedly ganked after some veteran told them the first thing they need to do is take their LE out. Nope never happend. Ok maybe only 1 time...lol
Have a nice night shujin.
Cracky this is not true, they just have to find a balance between the 2 its very simple. With a bit of SL fixing it would be eprfect for pvp as it is. While they could just contribute other aspects of the game for non pvpers. Without even changing the pvp'ers side of the game.
Monkey: don't take this the wrong way but i just don't agree with anything that you are saying. RPers can do just about anything someone else can. They can go level with a team. They can even join a clan, they just have to stay in mediated places where they won't get killed. Which if they are a tradeskiller for a clan and "all they want to do is cnst" then, there really isn't much of a reason to leave plaza or protection anyways. I don't know about you, but i get pissed at the guys that kill me with a 5 slot weapon when i have a 2 slot weapon. Don't you think i should be able to get even with that constructor if he is off in the wastelands? I don't see the point of joining a clan if you have your LE in. To have friends to be part of something? just go level with a team or a group of buddies.
If somebody quit from being pked this isn't the game for them simple as that.
Edit: this game will cause alot of similar stress throughout it and if you can't handle it it's better if they quit early.
Originally posted by IronMonkey
lol ok shujin if you say so. Your right. I'll just stop and agree with you here. None of the newbeis have ever quit because of the way they got repeatedly ganked after some veteran told them the first thing they need to do is take their LE out. Nope never happend. Ok maybe only 1 time...lol
Have a nice night shujin.
show me some advertisements, and i dont mean online sites, i mean irl. show me some. and ill stop blamin CDV.
and now i really am goin to bed so *flame on*
Originally posted by Shujin
wtf is this , oh yea this is the reason i made the post, cuz anal retentive bitchs like this..
btw for ur info, ive never even played cs
Chill im agreeing with you just some thing I have called :)
Originally posted by cracky
If somebody quit from being pked this isn't the game for them simple as that.
they dont want to quit, they just wanna take out everything everyone else likes to make them quit
really really goin to bed now :wtf:
Dade Murphey
21-08-03, 08:02
Originally posted by cracky
Addition: Why would their be LE clans I can't see the logic behind it. Factions let people form clans to claim them territory and make them more money by doing so.
Factions are meaningless as they stand now...clans make the factions meaningless as they stand too...it's all just for the prize you get...no one really plays their faction...shit...they could do away with factions and it wouldn't change the game one bit...it's not as if ops or anything really change hands all that often...so that's not really a valid arguement against having LE clans...LE clans would be something for people who don't wish to fight other people...KK could throw in options ONLY for LE people as non-LE people have options only open to them
Originally posted by Tupac
So what are you trying to say bounty? If me and my clannies where to run into a enemy clan member E.g 1 member of the enemy clan. Only 1 member of my clan is allowed to attack? bullshit i think not
tupac, i was backing up your statement with sarcasm, STANDING BY YOUR STATEMENT NOT BEING AGAINST IT for the late person.
So you are suggesting the game should be tailored to people who use a handicap their whole game life?
Addition again: LE's are only meant to be a leveling tool nothing more.
Originally posted by Dade Murphey
Factions are meaningless as they stand now...clans make the factions meaningless as they stand too...it's all just for the prize you get...no one really plays their faction...shit...they could do away with factions and it wouldn't change the game one bit...it's not as if ops or anything really change hands all that often...so that's not really a valid arguement against having LE clans...LE clans would be something for people who don't wish to fight other people...KK could throw in options ONLY for LE people as non-LE people have options only open to them
i wouldnt mind a LE clan, as long as it has nothin like a non le clan has cept a apt and clan bank.
it shouldnt b able to control ops at all, shouldnt be able to do anythin a clan does cept chat in clan chat and have a clan apt and clan bank, thats it
btw i wouldnt MIND this, but i wouldnt like it either
:mad: really goin to bed now
Dade Murphey
21-08-03, 08:05
Originally posted by Shujin
i wouldnt mind a LE clan, as long as it has nothin like a non le clan has cept a apt and clan bank.
it shouldnt b able to control ops at all, shouldnt be able to do anythin a clan does cept chat in clan chat and have a clan apt and clan bank, thats it
btw i wouldnt MIND this, but i wouldnt like it either
haha...shujin...is there anything else a clan can do other than taking ops/bank/apt/chat?
not really ;| which is why i said wouldnt mind but wouldnt like it either
omfg stop draggin me back in
I don't see any problem at all with an LE clan. In fact, i like it better than the thought of a clan mixed with LE and non LE.
IronMonkey
21-08-03, 08:07
er shujin
a non le clan should be able to do everythign you do except for take ops. They should not be able to take ops at all. In fact there should be other things added for the LE community. As well as alot of things added for the PvP community. And i do mean alot. From what i am gathering and understanding and slowly learning abotu DoY fromn little mjs hints ehre and there. It will address alot of these issues.
Originally posted by IronMonkey
er shujin
a non le clan should be able to do everythign you do except for take ops. They should not be able to take ops at all. In fact there should be other things added for the LE community. As well as alot of things added for the PvP community. And i do mean alot. From what i am gathering and understanding and slowly learning abotu DoY fromn little mjs hints ehre and there. It will address alot of these issues.
wtf did i fuckin say
"clan apt, clan bank, clan chat, no ops" wtf else is there
damnit read before u bitch
I haven't really read the thread.
This is what I know and what I care about.
I have a tank pretty close to cap. He's rather boring to level atm. One of the more fun things to do is to kill tons of people for absolutely no reason other than to be an asshole. I went around J_03 and killed anyone who was on the map (except faction allies/neutrals). Why? Because I'm a jerk when I play. I don't give a shit if people call me a n00b killer, or yell at me for gen rep killing, or direct me saying they will turn me in for RPK'in. I don't f@(#& care, I have fun. It doesn't hurt my feelings at the end of the day if I killed some CityAdmin scum n00b in Pepper park. Why? Because their LE is out.
Scenario.
I see a NEXT player. He's 7/12 or something like that. He has his LE out. I go to kill him, but don't finish him. Just wait for him to yell something at me. And what I expected came true.
"OMG you are a n00b killer, I hate you TG scum. Go to f@(#& hell."
And i simply reply with...
"You are a faction enemy with LE out. Time to die n00b."
:)
Originally posted by Mankind
IScenario.
I see a NEXT player. He's 7/12 or something like that. He has his LE out. I go to kill him, but don't finish him. Just wait for him to yell something at me. And what I expected came true.
"OMG you are a n00b killer, I hate you TG scum. Go to f@(#& hell."
And i simply reply with...
"You are a faction enemy with LE out. Time to die n00b."
:) *hug*
Dade Murphey
21-08-03, 08:10
an LE clan would be brilliant...I'd probably still eventually take my LE out...but it would give me something to do till then...it'd be a good way for newbies to learn the ropes too...as xperienced players could host LE clans to help out...which I'm sure all newbs would enjoy...after talking with a friend one nite though I believe they should get rid of clans and set up factions more like big clans...but that's another story...
@mankind: by all means...kill every faction enemy you see...but atleast try to put some thought behind it as to not run off new players...if indeed new players are/will be coming into the game...it's frustrating as hell to be killed when you don't know what the hells going on around you...if you ever played Darktide in Asheron's Call...you might understand this quite well ;)
I have an idea for an addition for the LE community. After they use their LE for a certain period of time they will be able to go on the 'epic' LE quest. It will have a cliff which they jump off and then their LE will fall out after they die.
Originally posted by cracky
I have an idea for an addition for the LE community. After they use their LE for a certain period of time they will be able to go on the 'epic' LE quest. It will have a cliff which they jump off and then their LE will fall out after they die.
haha i love this 1
IronMonkey
21-08-03, 08:13
wow you are such a negative person, has anyone else noticed this? Where was i 'bitching'? The only person here who has been bitchign throughout this whole thread is you. I have just been trying to offer you a perspective outside your own. I guess that classifies as bitchign to you though. If YOU READ your own post you said they shouldnt be able to do anything at all except for clan chat clan apt and bank accoutn. They shouldnt be able to take ops or anythign else thata clan can do. Thatsa slipperly slope with a wide gap u left at the end of your statement shujin. Which was what i was addressing. Perhaps u should relax and calm down a bit when you post, so you can read and think rationaly and u might find out people are just talking and not attacking or insulting you.
I'd also like to add that I am not 12 years old. I don't cry when I die from the reinforcements that finally come 30 minutes later. I just get poked, get more people from the clan to come, and I'm back to do the same old thing. And just because I don't DM every person I kill, and say "nice fight" doesn't mean that I am immature or childish. I got better things to do than talk to my enemies.
Dade Murphey
21-08-03, 08:14
Originally posted by cracky
I have an idea for an addition for the LE community. After they use their LE for a certain period of time they will be able to go on the 'epic' LE quest. It will have a cliff which they jump off and then their LE will fall out after they die.
rather meant in fun or seriousness...why force people to eventually all play the same style...people like different things outta games for different reasons...
actually when i die, if im on my ND char they usually dont say good fight or anythin they usually DM me and say "dont bother calling ur buds im already gone" or some shit like that, and i know they are gone, bcuz im already back to where i was by that time, cuz i dont fuckin call on everyone on my clan unlike them when i die
Well I don't mind people keeping their LE in that's fine keep it in as long as they want but, when you start saying the LE community deserves more and want the game tweaked just for your playing style that is a little far.
IronMonkey
21-08-03, 08:22
cracky um i dotn use a LE never have sorry. It's not my playign style. It is part of the game that HAS to be tweaked. Just liek the PVP side needs alot more stuff. BOTH sides do.
How hard is it for a hardcore pker to admit that?
Dade Murphey
21-08-03, 08:24
Originally posted by cracky
Well I don't mind people keeping their LE in that's fine keep it in as long as they want but, when you start saying the LE community deserves more and want the game tweaked just for your playing style that is a little far.
Why let one group of players get the shaft and make them miss out on a large part of the game while the other group get's to do everything...kk removed the penalties to the LE...obviously making it a valid playstyle...but yet there's NOTHING in the game for an LE player...even to do most of the current epics you have to kill someone...sure you can pop it back in...but why not already have an alternative set up...like LE only items or something like that
See that is the problem. You see LE and pvp as 2 different choices for the game, they aren't. LE is simply a tool for you to level and get used to the game it's not meant to be another path to the game.
Addition: All the penalties from the LE removed show is that it's meant to be a leveling tool.
I consider myself a hardcore pvper, but some of the pvpers in this thread put all of us to shame. :rolleyes:
Dade Murphey
21-08-03, 08:28
but they ARE two different styles...one allows you to only PVM and the other allows you to PVP...some people like only fighting AI...some people, like you (no disrespect intended) see PvM as a tool to PvP...there's 2 sides to it...just depends on your view on things...I came from Asheron's Call where all it was was PvM...that's all I knew...and I enjoy it well enough...PvP is kinda fun, sometimes, but only when I want it...neofrag...or when I'm good and ready to take me LE out...if in fact I do decide to take it out...so LE in and LE out...they really are 2 seperate playstyles
Well my point is this game is meant to be mainly PVP and if you are interested in PVM it will probably never satisfy you fully. The game has always revolved around PVP and has never gone away from that direction.
IronMonkey
21-08-03, 08:32
Originally posted by cracky
See that is the problem. You see LE and pvp as 2 different choices for the game, they aren't. LE is simply a tool for you to level and get used to the game it's not meant to be another path to the game.
Addition: All the penalties from the LE removed show is that it's meant to be a leveling tool.
No cracky this is what u want the LE to be considered as. Please don't speak as if you are KK and you define the game. Because you are not them. You don't know their intentions. You can only assume you know. To say such and such is the WAY it is. Without MJS or someone comming here and stating that is the way it is, is well just foolish. They are played as 2 different paths. The LE by defination is for LAW ABIDING CITIZENS. The players who don't wear LE's are not. 2 clearly stated different paths.
ok then they haven't said themselves countless times that this is a pvp game and the LE is meant to be taken out at higher levels. uhhhh wait yes they did.
IronMonkey
21-08-03, 08:34
perhaps u missed it but um they changed that cracky.
This went from a complaining about pking thread to complaining about the rights of LE users. The first issue is simple, if you don't want to get pked or dont' want to hear about it, there are simple steps to take to make this obsolete. The second issue about the rights of LE users. I don't agree that PvM is the path to PvP, but i also feel that this was a game designed around PvP, KK has said this and stuck by this since day 1. They have given people that absolutely hate PvP a chance to play and have a great time with the game. The only thing i see right now as a disadvantage to a LE player is not having access to stuff associated with PvP. Why join a clan if the clans purpose is to fight for ops and battle other clans. If you want just a group of friends, just add them to your buddy list and Level with them. If you want to be in a clan cause of OP money then too bad, you get access to OP money cause you helped defend the OP ie PvP.
Originally posted by Shujin
i dont really give a fuck about sayin hi im gonna kill u now even though u are not enemy faction, or saying good fight after i kill someone, i fuckin kill them just to piss them off alot of the time, . . . and you were wondering . . . err . . . why they were pissed off . . . ? :rolleyes:
For what it's worth - it's nothing to do with age.
Some personality types get their jollies by causing other people annoyance/misery. Some personality types don't. The two types will almost never comprehend each other at a fundamental level.
They changed what they said????? I'm confused.
Dade Murphey
21-08-03, 08:38
Originally posted by cracky
Well my point is this game is meant to be mainly PVP and if you are interested in PVM it will probably never satisfy you fully. The game has always revolved around PVP and has never gone away from that direction.
Let's take asheron's call as an xample...
AC is MEANT to be PvM...though they do offer a quest to become PvP capable...not many people do it...but some do...there is absolutely nothing for a PvP in that game though...which, I think, is partly why more people don't do it seriously but instead do it for fun...if there were more options open for the PvPer it would probably be more widely accepted and enjoyable for an xtent of time...much is the same in NC with the LE...reguardless of how things are MEANT to be...people will still do what they want...so as to satisfy all sides...why not have options readily available for both...having options for LE users in now way affects non-LE users and visa versa
Originally posted by kurai
. . . and you were wondering . . . err . . . why they were pissed off . . . ? :rolleyes:
For what it's worth - it's nothing to do with age.
Some personality types get their jollies by causing other people annoyance/misery. Some personality types don't. The two types will almost never comprehend each other at a fundamental level.
i dont wonder why they are pissed , im jus happy they are
IronMonkey
21-08-03, 08:40
Originally posted by Shujin
i dont wonder why they are pissed , im jus happy they are
Which leads people to ask how old you are.
Originally posted by Shujin
i dont wonder why they are pissed , im jus happy they are
kurai's statement was just telling you that you can't enjoy pissing someone off and then in turn get pissed off that they DM you saying they are pissed off. That would be a tad hypocritical.
Originally posted by IronMonkey
Which leads people to ask how old you are.
which leads me to answer 19, and dont go with that age shit, its pointless jus cuz im 19 dont mean shit.
i could be a fuckin 90 y/o fuck and still love to piss ppl off, bcuz i know they cant do shit about it
You are asking for things they never promised and never even stated they would even think about. This game still has alot of things they need to finish that are alot more important then dreams of LE users that follow a path that's not even sanctioned.
IronMonkey
21-08-03, 08:43
Originally posted by Shujin
which leads me to answer 19, and dont go with that age shit, its pointless jus cuz im 19 dont mean shit.
i could be a fuckin 90 y/o fuck and still love to piss ppl off, bcuz i know they cant do shit about it
The power of the internet is a wonderful thing isn't it? But i think you just answered your own question in which you started at the beggining of the thread.
Originally posted by cracky
You are asking for things they never promised and never even stated they would even think about. This game still has alot of things they need to finish that are alot more important then dreams of LE users that follow a path that's not even sanctioned.
Kinda like every other thread here about things people want eh cracky?
Originally posted by Shujin
which leads me to answer 19, and dont go with that age shit, its pointless jus cuz im 19 dont mean shit.
i could be a fuckin 90 y/o fuck and still love to piss ppl off, bcuz i know they cant do shit about it Indeed. It isn't a matter of age - it's a matter of maturity.
There is a difference.
Originally posted by bounty
kurai's statement was just telling you that you can't enjoy pissing someone off and then in turn get pissed off that they DM you saying they are pissed off. That would be a tad hypocritical.
i dont get pissed off
like i said, if its a noob i usually feel sry for em and help em out, if its someone ill jus pk again if they come by then ill jus laff my ass of them and tell em to fuck off, if its a dumbass that cant speak any english cept the few words that piss me off, then i get pissed off because they dont even understand wtf they are saying ie: [ edited for violation of the forum rules ], the fact someone says a whole race doesnt know how to RP because i killed her friend, which btw was perfectly within ur rules of killing( over rank 60 , had lib, and enemy faction , and was not afk ) then that can piss me off.
Dade Murphey
21-08-03, 08:44
Originally posted by Shujin
i dont wonder why they are pissed , im jus happy they are
Why be happy you piss people off...I mean do you run around town punching people and laughing?...let's go with the scenario that for every 10 people you repeatedly kill...1 person leaves...on Pluto this would be desasterous...like I said before...killing faction enemies, by all means go ahead...killing allies/neutrals just goes to enforce my statement that factions mean fuck all and if they were removed from the game nothing would change...again...put a touch of thought behind your actions...
and weren't you going to bed 30 min ago? hehe :)
and IM don't be so passive agressive...hehe
Originally posted by kurai
Indeed. It isn't a matter of age - it's a matter of maturity.
There is a difference.
maturity is a fucked word. whos to say whos mature, you? how do you know you arent immature yourself. no one can say whos mature and who's not. your definition of fun can be different then mine, your def. of maturity can also.
and bill clintons definition of is, is great
btw jus for u people to know, i dont even pk much i jus think its fucked how people bitch when u do.
really the only time i kill anyone is when they lie to me, when they say somethin completely worthy of being said by a dumbass, or threaten "to pwn" me on another server with there capped char :rolleyes:
and yes enjoy for them to get pissed bcuz the fact they cant do shit other than more lies or hallow threats.
ive actaully had 1 dumbass liar to all on a bunch of people outside to try to kill me for a reason he made up. and guess what, i told them what happend, and some ppl in the area told them i wasnt lyin he was, and guess what, they all kiked his ass *was funeh*
and for iron monkey and rest of u ppl who think i only do it cuz im a fucked up person, actually im not, i jus have fun when ppl in my own way in nc.
irl i actually do alot, i jus recently did volunteer work ( no court order dont bring shit like that up ;P ) at a nursing home. and usually give anyone who asks me money, even in nc.
and if i wanted to, i could b an ass, today a dude that makes me laff ( manosteel64 ) asked my alt char to repair his lib ( which i coulda stole it if i wanted to and not gave a fuck , but i didnt ) i jus scared him ;p acted like i was gonna steal it, and then gave it back ;]
to prove i dont give a fuck if my noobs are pk'd = manosteel64 pk'd my char 0mega about a week ago when it was rank 10. well, this week i capped it. he didnt know i capped it, he said he could pwn me and i laffed at him, i said no u pwned me at rank 10 but i dont really care cuz u cant do shit now, he laffed and said the usual dumbass shit like "hahaha see you admit it, you died!" and im like, yea no shit i was in sewers 1( so prolly wasnt even rank 10 ) of fuckin corse i died. and he acted like that made him feel all might and said comeon ill fight you now, bring it on, i said ok we meet in plaza 1, was gonna go fight and hmm he suddenly had to do somethin... he was rank 54/63 and i was rank 67/64, how could this be.... he pwned me not a week earlier in newb sewers.
his excuse "i have to get faction symapthy" that made me and everyone in trade channel ( bcuz he said all this shit in trade channel ) laff our ass's off
Dade Murphey
21-08-03, 08:50
Originally posted by cracky
You are asking for things they never promised and never even stated they would even think about. This game still has alot of things they need to finish that are alot more important then dreams of LE users that follow a path that's not even sanctioned.
I'll agree...this game in general needs it's fair share of fine tuning...but if it actually had viable options for the LE person it would be a good way to get some new blood (no pun intended) into the game...alot of people I have personally talked to are turned off by the fact that it's so PvP bases...because they know that it'll have more CS kiddy mentality people (no offense intended to any posters in this thread)...I for one would be overjoyed to shit if we had more people in the game...no matter if they were all LE or not...AC's downtime is about 500-600 people on the server I play on...Pluto's down time is about 85, my server in NC...advertising does wonders...but so does catering to more playstyles
I agree population is the main problem with alot of things currently. I don't really like the idea of catering to everybody but even if they did it won't help if nobody knows the game exists.
Dade Murphey
21-08-03, 08:57
OT: (because I believe pretty much all of us have said everything we can about our sides of the discussion)...
Has KK said anything about getting more games on the shelves lately...the d/l option is all well and good...but if people don't see it they won't even begin to wonder about it...this is a good game, with all it's faults, but it's boring to hop on a fairly good sized world and only have 100 people logged on...I've often thought about getting a batch of those Neocron Propaganda posters that that dude made a while back and placing them around in places just to make gamers/people come check out the game...but there's little point if they can't find the damn thing to buy...
I'm not sure, I heard a rumor about a new publisher but I dunno if it's true.
IronMonkey
21-08-03, 09:01
word of mouth is the biggest advertisement a game can have. thats why catering to many different playstyles is so good for mmorpgs.
Word of mouth is what made cs the game it is today playerbase wise.
I'm sure almost everybody in this game currently has gotten a few people into the game.
Seriously though word of mouth isn't saving this game and it can't anytime soon I mean think about it.
Let's say everybody currently playing got 1 new person in (I'm sure people could get more and some people wouldn't be able to get anybody so I'm just guessing about it would average out to about 1 person each) then that would be like maybe 100-200 new players per server.
Depending on what time of day they play that still is probaly like only 10-30 new players on each server at a time.
Dade Murphey
21-08-03, 09:09
I've really wanted to print up those posters and go to the mall and put them up in the game stores...go to like bestbuy and put them up...get permission from the people who run the shopping complex I work in a put em on cars and stuff...haha...hopefully that would get the attention of some people...and may, just may, get some people in the game assuming they could actually get their hands on a copy...the rarety/lack of knowledge of the game I think hurt it more than anything else possibly could ever have...
[ edited for violation of the forum rules - flaming ]
i fuckin kill them just to piss them off alot of the time
It has nothing to do with PK'ing, he gets enjoyment out of making sure other people are pissed off in the game.
If they are new players to the game then his actions will have the intended effect of making them quit.
Removing thier LE means they consent to PVP? Most new players don't even know wtf an LE does. In fact they probably remove it by accident or having some gimp like Shuin telling them to remove it.
But word of mouth does work.. you gank a completely new player to the game as they are still trying to figure things out odds on they will quit after 10 days rather then put up with that crap. Add to that thier friends will hear "It's full of quake muppets" and won't bother downloading.
I have no idea what it is like on Saturn (and after your comments I don't want to find out) but on Pluto anyone under level 20 is treated with respect or as a mist. In general very few people hassle low level players unless they are being a dickhead about it.
You want more players, rather then gank the low level players, ask them do they know the point of the LE first before killing them. If they don't then explain where to get one and how to put it back in.
Originally posted by Archeus
[ edited for violation of the forum rules - flaming ] (and why I have had you on ignore for so long).
It has nothing to do with PK'ing, he gets enjoyment out true ;]
but as i said, i dont even pk much, in fact i barely ever do. but when i do, i make sure i have fun
ps. Shuin = who
and btw, a full description is available on the LE by right clicking it and going to more info. so if they dont know then they shouldnt take it out, and read more before u make fucked comments, i dont tell ppl to take out LE's and if i do i tell them what can happen
Originally posted by Shujin
which leads me to answer 19, and dont go with that age shit, its pointless jus cuz im 19 dont mean shit.
i could be a fuckin 90 y/o fuck and still love to piss ppl off, bcuz i know they cant do shit about it
1. It has!
2. Watch your language!!
3. Anti - social behaviour in your age is totally normal and will change for the better in years to come.
4. This is a GAME. If you take the fun out (others of course) you should consider your course of action.
5. This game has absolutely nothing to do with real life. If NC would be real a mob of vigilantes would make sure most "killers" don`t do it again. Assisted by a length of rope and a sturdy tree.
Regards
Velvet
There are no "but in real life" arguments.
No.
I think people are nicer on Pluto because they only have one character and they either can face the people who will kill them on sight, or delete their character and start a new one, or their ultimate decision to change servers. In other words I think they are scared to be an asshole so they aren't forced to make one of those decisions.
On Saturn you got a lot more to choose from.
totally agree mankind. In a way the small population size hurts this though. I have become such good friends with a majority of the population on pluto (well at least to a tolerable level) that any fighting is strictly for fun instead of having intentions of taking your belt or to make someones "gaming" life miserable. Even some major former pkers on pluto will let you get your belt after they've killed you once. Never had this before the low population. I have gotten pked a lot on saturn from people that have accused me of "killing their alt" i think that is the very reason that server is carebear. Yeah lets log a totally anonymous alt so that i can kill you when its completely unseen. Even teamed, you really gotta watch who you team with on saturn, you die in chaos caverns on saturn and i'd say at least 60% of the time for myself, my belt will be empty and everyone in the team all says "i didn't take it."
every time i pk everyone is like U 12 YEAR OLD U NEWBIE but guess what if i was the n00b why are they the ones getting killed?O_o
The people that bitch and whine in caps to you after you pk them are the same ones that will act obnoxious and go around and pking newbs and pissing them off. Just all based on mentality. If i got pked when i was lower level i used to dm them and be like "why" and just leave it at that. Sometimes i would help one of their clan mates level yet i get pked by them and i explain to them that and leave it at that, 8 months later i get pked i don't even bother saying a thing, its part of the game. I wouldn't like the game as much if there wasn't an element of risk from other players and lawlessness that ensues.
Cryotchekk
21-08-03, 11:17
rawr!!!!!!!!!
i miss killing you tupac :/
Yeah it would be fine and dandy to be a carebear if the LE chip functoned 100% perfectly, but certain monks and there exploiting with there exploity like spells, gank noobs with LE's.........persnally i dont give a fuck if i die by a capped tank a lucky noob or jut an ignorant of your face dickhead, its a game, if you cant seperate fantasy for reality then perhaps you shouldnt play RPG games. Someone kills you it doesnt mean that they are 13 years old and pull the head off there one eyed snake or indeed that they have fundamental issues, someone kills ou in a way you dont like, GROW FUKIN UP its a game dont Dm him/her saying that he she sucks his own cock/clitoris and fucks little children (not mention anynames here) but you know who you are you little fucking wanker, if i get any more shit from you the im taking it to KK, there is a limit to how much one man can take. Somepeople just dont want to be fucking nice.........and as for GR ganking, so fukin what dont go back to the same goddam fakkin Gr constantly (ive never GR ganked but even so i will if i have to)and you wont get ganked.........if its an op war why in hell are you Gring there anyway? gr a few sectros out and by the time you get there your Si will be cleared.
Apologies for the language (the mods bleep machine will be going overboard) but im just sick of the crap.
Grow up you silly people, dont provoke me i wont gank you....... Aimed at the carebears btw lol.
One last thing, if i Dmed someone saying that then id be very ashamed of myself, are you?
Greets,
Oath.
Umm guys.... LE chipped cannot target each other, you know you cannot get heals , cannot heal people. If you are PPU or just some PE wanting to cast heal on somebody or ask somebody to heal you in a team...how the toss do you do that?
You people say just pop the LE chip in, do you know how important one brain implant slot is to a normal player.
The problem with people treating RPK like 12 year olds is because, only a immature idiot would take the joy in "pissing players off", then complain about them saying you pissed them off. You piss off 6 people just to make yourself feel better 1:6, to you getting your lost inventory in GR might be cheap but to a newbie its unaffordable. Then there is the whole deal of going back in and getting killed again.
Now we have about 2 pks killing 12 people about 3 of them would be total newbies, which some veteron told him to take LE out to join some clumsy small clan.
Ultimately what you are doing is getting rid of any new players neocron has at all, and ultimately ruining the game for EVERYONE because there will be less players as the older players get bored and leave.
LE people are forced to be loners and can't join any clans. Clans may have little operation, but did they ever did in any MMORPG? no. clans are a source of community, a sense of a social organization like a religion.
You bring up some very good points Rai, maybe they should make a separate LE only compartment, I definitely don't think LE users should have to take a hit on what weapons and PA they can use. However i do disagree with some points. If you are a LE user I don't think you should be able to heal or shelter, or boost. NOTHING. how fun would it be to have your enemy getting healed by someone you can't kill? makes zero sense. Besides IMO ppu's and LE's just don't mix. I think LE users should be able to heal/shelter/boost other LE users though. I agree there. As far as being forced to being a loner i have actually seen quite the contrary. I see plenty of LE users readily active and accepted in the community. SOme use it to scout though and in my opinion is just retarded. Like i said you have good points and i definitely think that LE users should have the same freedoms but only among other LE users, i do not think there should be a mix between LE users and non LE users at all whatsoever for reasons listed previously.
Helen Angilley
21-08-03, 12:42
Shujin's attitude, approach and lack of typing skills are a testament to the "12 year old menaility" thing more than anything else.
The fact she's in New Dawn also explains a lot. :lol:
...and people say I'm a Troll/Flamer. o_O
Im not 12!!! w00t there end of discussion all Pkers aint 12.
greendonkeyuk
21-08-03, 13:03
Monkeys got it goin on!
couldnt agree with you more mate, shujin, the more you post the worse youre sounding.... i mean, youre the one here bitchin about people who whine at you on dm.... there is a simple solution. DONT PK EM! jeez how hard can it be..... I mean do you have a problem with criticism here or what? people post different opinions to your own and you go off the handle at em, fuckin this and bastard that... hmm and a big no need goin out to shujin.... It seems like you got way too much tension going off over there and you need to find some of it. theres people you can call for that stuff you know.
Cracky, i agree with your points about pvp being a base element. It was something that was said by mjs way back, many moons ago. However, they (kk) also gotta look at this from a commercial viewpoint. More players = more benjamins.... not all the players want to play in a malevolent crackhead stylee but they all pay their £6 a month or whatever it is where you live. This means more money for kk and means we get more pokers, constructors and researchers etc... on the whole the le isnt a bad thing at all. My only gripe about le players is the use of le runners as scouts for op fights, only experienced it one time but it is irritating as hell.
There are people who enjoy your style of play (myself included) but it is by no means THE only style of play, thats a very narrowminded view point.
Personally i dont mind pking at all, as long as theres some kind of integrity to it. I mean Gr campers are lame, theres no need for it. If you cant kill someone in an open fight then you shouldnt even bother. its jus cowardly. 6 vs 1 is exactly the same, lame. If it takes all 6 of you to kill me then you all need to get some skills.....
The people who do shit like that arent cheating anyone but themselves, their victories are hollow and their defeats will be far harder to swallow. The people who play games solely to make others lives' a misery may have issues running far deeper than merely a computer game but this isnt the time or place to discuss them.
my 2 pence worth
I can't be arsed reading past the 1st page because all of Shujins posts sound like they have been written by a child :rolleyes:
But, my 2 nc's...
I love PvP, but I don't like ganking or attacking others who are much lower than me - some don't bother with that and kill anyone in the name or RP - <---- that's a laugh... Most that say "I RPk'ed you" wouldn't know RP if it came up and bit you in the ass.
And yes, if peeps don't want to die / take part in PvP, then for Gods sake, keep your LE in. If you take it out, you are asking to be attacked - you may as well have a sign strapped to your head saying "I wanna fight"
People's morals and behaviour in game is an individual and very unique thing. And while I really can't understand Shujin's approach to fighting in the slightest, the game would be very boring if we all acted the same.
That said, Shujin doesn't help him/her self by posting what to me is an unintentionally ironic thread, and by using so much swearing and flaming.
In terms of noob killing to piss people off, I think you need to separate this into 2 categories:
1) True Noobs, who are new to the game, have yet to learn that the capped players/weapons rule all, that they can't fight back, and that this was going to happen when they pulled out their LE.
2) Lowbies, who are experienced players, who know exactly what they're letting themselves in for when they pull their LE.
And yes, Neocron has lost many noobs because of this, as well as other things like MC5newbie-hell(tm). If you all think back to when you first started this game, there will have come a point where you were killed a lot, felt frustrated, and made the decision to either give up, or become determined to level up so you can kill those who killed you.
For me this happened when Starkes was killing me all the time in the outzone. So what has been the motivation for most of us to level up for so long? Revenge. Although to be fair, the indignant fire of resolve that burned in my genrepped chest soon faded as I accepted the way the game works, and came to regard player killing as a test of skills and chivalry, even if the oponent does not share this view.
There have been many reports written about the mentality of people once they get behind a computer - they can pretend to be someone they are not. That is the whole idea of an MMOG - you get the chance to be something you are not in RL... But what I object to is obnoxious little t**ts who do this KNOWING that noting can be done about it, and they take pleasure in other peoples misery.
These people are very sad, and we should feel sorry for them. They dont have any grip on reality, because if they walked the streets being like this in RL, then they would get a good kicking every 50 yards. So, they do the only thing they can - act tough in a fantasy world. They don't care what people think of them on forums / in games / in chat rooms, because the worst that is gonna happen is that they get kicked out. These people are the real geeks who have no respect for themselves and other and hope that people will think they are 'cool' because they act this way. They get a few other like-minded idiots, who also have no grip on reality, and they fuel each other - daring each other to go that one step further.
It really is pathetic when you think about it.
As I said, we shouldn't be annoyed at these people, we should feel sorry for them because this is the only way they can get any enjoyment from life - hiding behind a fake persona and trying to get people to believe they are tough - taking pleasure from annoying others.
My advice? Get a life - there is a whole 'real' world out there - don't be so obnoxious all the time - I know this will probably get flamed by those very same people - and why?....... because they can.
Sad - very sad :)
Nail on the head there, Rince. Couldn't agree more. Nice one. :)
Shock.
Dave Kujan
21-08-03, 14:25
i will give 50,000nc to any biotek or biotek ally who brings me this vile creature's head...or dogtags.:D
in fact, same goes for any hate clan runner.
maybe i'm on to something here...we can have our own "wanted dead or alive" system instead of that cheesedick background shit nc has. any pk-er can be reported to that worthless council hooyah and they can meet and decide if it's a legit accusation by majority vote. if it is, they put out a bounty and collect the tags at the ca bldg. those tags would finally serve a frigging purpose!
or we can just do it the above way.
but does this constitute unfair harassment or singling out a player? or could this be a legit way for us to thin out the herd and divest ourselves of unwanted garbage like hate and shujin?
QUOTE]maybe i'm on to something here...we can have our own "wanted dead or alive" system instead of that cheesedick background shit nc has. any pk-er can be reported to that worthless council hooyah and they can meet and decide if it's a legit accusation by majority vote. if it is, they put out a bounty and collect the tags at the ca bldg. those tags would finally serve a frigging purpose![/QUOTE]
Great idea! Use the dogtags to receive a reward for killing a person wanted dead (or alive huh?) by some faction. o_O
Dade Murphey
21-08-03, 14:38
Originally posted by GT_Rince
There have been many reports written about the mentality of people once they get behind a computer....etc etc
Sad - very sad :)
haha...I have to say rince, this is one of the best posts I've read in a while...haha...and I do agree with you 100%...haha
Originally posted by Shujin
i dont wonder why they are pissed , im jus happy they are
Do you get bullied at school?
DjSkum
@Rince, your so right mate!
Obviously never played UO.
1. Gank newbie.
2. Newbie accidently puts reward on killer.
3. Killer has friend kill them and hand in dogtags.
4. Profit!
Originally posted by djskum
Do you get bullied at school?
DjSkum
lol :lol:
Originally posted by Shujin
...if its a dumbass that cant speak any english cept the few words that piss me off, then i get pissed off because they dont even understand wtf they are saying ie: [[ edited for violation of the forum rules ]], the fact someone says a whole race doesnt know how to RP because i killed her friend...
*sigh*
How many cookies have i gotta throw at you before you stop breaking forum rules shujin? That is blatant flaming, your also not allowed to name names on the forums, and can not bring unwanted attention to people in that way ( AKA Harassment) Its not the first time you have mentioned here in the thread either. If she said that, then complain direct to abuse@neocron.com , instead of coming of the forums and doign what i woulda probably done (roughly transtaled to being an ignorant ass)
dude
i didnt know i couldnt use someones in game name o.0 i didnt c that in rules anywhere
and really all the people who are argue'ing here all end up with the same result, insults, you cant back up your thoughts enough, so you go back to instults and calling someone younger or in a younger state of mind than yourself so you can feel you are oviously so much smarter and more mature than them.
Bob Monkhouse
21-08-03, 17:13
OK, IMO Pkers are not necessarily immature. Random PKers are not Necessarily immature. There are very few actions you can do in NC can really give anyone a good clear look at your mind, only a glimpse of the surface.
What makes me think people are immature is mainly what they SAY. I assume "mature" people have had a decent education beyond primary school, so that they can form basic sentences in English and have a wider vocabulary than "leet speak" and swearwords (A quick plea, PLEASE stop using GEEK speak like "pnwed" etc. It marks you as a retard) . This behaviour doesn't mean you are definately under 16, but it means you behave like one.
I think that an inability to understand what sort of game NC is also marks people as immature, so many whiners are also immature, particularly if they resort to childish insults.
Basically anyone who wants to have everything their own way, be it people who want to remove their LE and NOT be killed, or Pkers who want to kill but dont like red SL, come across to me as immature.
Being able to take responsibility for your actions requires maturity, and this is a far greater indicator of someones maturity than whether they Pk or not.
So, basically I dont think Shujin et al are immature because they Pk people in game. I NOW think that he is immature after reading their posts on this forum.
Well Done
:lol:
Originally posted by Bob Monkhouse
So, basically I dont think Shujin et al are immature because they Pk people in game. I NOW think that he is immature after reading their posts on this forum.
Well Done
:lol:
:D w00t semi-insult
would a mod close this thead kinda sick of teh constant flamin
What faction is HATE on Saturn?
I'll be right there! :D
Originally posted by Shujin
would a mod close this thead kinda sick of teh constant flamin
LOL - that's rich coming from you...
:rolleyes:
I suppose I should give my take on this.
I PK a lot. Yes. I PK only runners of an enemy faction, and even then I'm often undecided about killing Black Dragons. But CA, TT and CM are toast. If I'm in Pepper and a newb runs in heading for the sewer or wandering around I'll leave him alone, but if I raid MB or somewhere I don't stop to take time to check everyone's rank - I just kill all the reds. I don't see why I should stop and take the time to talk to someone when I'd rather kill him. And if I started forcing people to join TG then you'd all complain that TG were getting even stronger. :rolleyes:
I don't DM people with any bullshit like pwned or anything at all. Sometimes after an OP fight I will say good fight, if it was, or if I'm on an MB raid and I get killed by a guy I'm friends with I'll DM him and we'll have a bit of a laugh about it.
But I have to agree that KK shouldn't be spending their time trying to cater for people who don't want to PvP ever. This game is aimed at people who want to PvP. It's supposed to be a cyberpunk world, where you're supposed to watching your back all the time because there might just be a bloodthirsty criminal around the next corner. IMO KK should get this atmosphere, get PvP up so it's more balanced, then they can think about catering for non PvPers. As far as I'm concerned, you can keep your LE in as long as you want, I don't mind, but if you start saying "This should be changed because it's not fair on us non PvPers" (except the kill LE users exploit of course) well that's when you're going to far. There should be no sacrifices made to the PvP system to cater for the non PvP system. And the LE is not a sacrifice because it's intention is to let people level up to the point where they can defend themselves, and ultimately become aggressive.
Originally posted by Shujin
dude
i didnt know i couldnt use someones in game name o.0 i didnt c that in rules anywhere
heh thats funny :rolleyes: after reading the neo modifications forum you seem to know the rules like you wrote them yourself O_o
Originally posted by Shujin
and really all the people who are argue'ing here all end up with the same result, insults, you cant back up your thoughts enough, so you go back to instults and calling someone younger or in a younger state of mind than yourself so you can feel you are oviously so much smarter and more mature than them.
You should listen to yourself at times o_O
Originally posted by \\Fényx//
heh thats funny :rolleyes: after reading the neo modifications forum you seem to know the rules like you wrote them yourself O_o
You should listen to yourself at times o_O
[ entire post edited for violation of the forum rules - did you stop to consider that the mod in question may not be a native English speaker before you decided to flame him on the forums? You're offences are mounting up on this thread... ]
Armchair moderation is fun, isn't it :rolleyes:
Your assertion that posting an in-game name constitutes "harassment" is absolutely ridiculous, one, and two, you are not a moderator. Maybe you should stop pretending you're one and let them do their own jobs.
Originally posted by Zenthik
Armchair moderation is fun, isn't it :rolleyes:
Your assertion that posting an in-game name constitutes "harassment" is absolutely ridiculous, one, and two, you are not a moderator. Maybe you should stop pretending you're one and let them do their own jobs.
O_o *confused ?
all i need to say:
"Zenthik
Neocron Newbie
Registered: August 2003
Location:
Occupation:
Posts: 1
"
I was talking to Fenyx [ edited for violation of the forum rules - flaming ]
Also your postcount automatically determines your penis size :rolleyes: Gee, another "postcount++" post made by an angsty teen Linkin Park fan RPKer with no grasp of simple concepts such as:
1) Spelling
2) Grammar
3) Punctuation
4) Capitalization
or
5) Sentence Structure.
Color me completely and utterly shocked.
Originally posted by Zenthik
I was talking to Fenyx you mental midget.
Also your postcount automatically determines your penis size :rolleyes: Gee, another "postcount++" post made by an angsty teen Linkin Park fan RPKer with no grasp of simple concepts such as:
1) Spelling
2) Grammar
3) Punctuation
4) Capitalization
or
5) Sentence Structure.
Color me completely and utterly shocked.
so your post could of 2 means you have a 6 metre long wang??? O_o
dude, who the fuck are you anyway? Cant me and shujin have a civilised fight between ourselves :D without some [ edited for violation of the forum rules ] jumping in the middle like superman?
Now an attitude like that, on a brand new account makes me think its someone either making a secondary account as they like their 'clean image' on their main account, or is someone who is evading a ban.
I wont deny it, and I think he knows the same, me and shujin frequently piss each other off, something about the way we each post just pisses eachother off.
but for the love of god, if you really are a newbie to the forum, and have the attitude of a sex starved baboon with his head stuck up his ass then your in for a hard and flamey time on these forums O_o
:) Just a friendly warning :)
[Edit]* Nid, SHE Bit first so it's not only me bitching O_o I dont want a ban, I just feel like this had to be said :|
/Nid's edit - check the rules:
There will be no insulting, harassing or 'flaming' other forum members or clans. This also includes responding to such behaviour.
Originally posted by Zenthik
I was talking to Fenyx you mental midget.
Also your postcount automatically determines your penis size :rolleyes: Gee, another "postcount++" post made by an angsty teen Linkin Park fan RPKer with no grasp of simple concepts such as:
1) Spelling
2) Grammar
3) Punctuation
4) Capitalization
or
5) Sentence Structure.
Color me completely and utterly shocked.
ROFLMFAO
I can't help myself........... pwned :p
LOL :lol:
hey, i like linkin park, exactly like i enjoy waiting for Doy o.0
Originaly posted by a Zenthink
I was talking to Fenyx you mental midget.
Also your postcount automatically determines your penis size Gee, another "postcount++" post made by an angsty teen Linkin Park fan RPKer with no grasp of simple concepts such as:
1) Spelling
2) Grammar
3) Punctuation
4) Capitalization
or
5) Sentence Structure.
Color me completely and utterly shocked.
Dude.........get a fucking life, 2 posts and you already pissed me off. You group all of the Rpkr's as angsty teens with no grasp of (quoted above).......perhaps "friend" you should think before you act? or is that too much coming from an angsty adult?
If Shujin and Fenix are havin a barmy leave it, dont add you own stupid comments into the mix. If you want to voice your opinion do so in a respectable manner and the not the mannerism of a mountain goat eating its babies with a fork.
And remember not all Linkin park fans are angsty, not all rpkr's are teenagers, and not all angsty teens are thick as shit, so regardless of your age........[ edited for violation of the forum rules ]
Greets and disapointment :( :o ,
Oath.
P.S. Fucktard is a great word, hope i dont get sued :wtf:
/Nid's edit - I'd worry more about getting edited o_O
Originally posted by \\Fényx//
dude, who the fuck are you anyway? Cant me and shujin have a civilised fight between ourselves without some [ edited ]jumping in the middle like superman?
Now an attitude like that, on a brand new account makes me think its someone either making a secondary account as they like their 'clean image' on their main account, or is someone who is evading a ban.
I know who she is :eek: :eek:
Originally posted by DonnyJepp
I know who she is :eek: :eek:
SHE :eek: :eek:
the same SHE that was temp banned earlier ??? :lol:
Well I don't KNOW it for fact but it seems likely, no?;) One cannot easily or casually hide the way they write or speak :cool: and it is a remarkable coincidence that a new troll who appears to speak from an informed position has arrived only just today.
D :p
PS Fen:
<img src="http://home.comcast.net/~schroet/kidcommercial.jpg" border="0" alt=""><br />
ohhhh my god that kid always cracks me up lol, a few people behind me at work just noticed that big pic and cracked up at it :lol:
Rofl, thats some sick shit........nice,
oath.
I'm a bit late onto this thread but I'm going to start at the beginning and work my way through. In the mean time, be aware of the forum rules, and have a nice day.
N
Well, if you boys lust after me enough that you HAVE to know, I registered yesterday for the trial, hoping to join a frivolous fusillade of fellows from a flippant frothy forum I frequent (fuckheads).
Sorry to disappoint but I'm male. I know of the Loneliness of the Long-Distance Griefer, though, and I shed a single tear for you. :(
Oh, but I'm so sorry for thinking that, this being a public discussion forum for Neocron customers, that I could actually, you know, post my opinion. Point taken, though; since I've obviously stumbled past the bouncer legion of ten thousand drunken, angsting Gen-tanks strong into the super-secret "Pirate Conversations Regarding Pop Culture and Scurvy" forum without my decoder wheel or the secret handshake, allow me to excuse myself and let the old sea dogs have at it. :o
I expect many more responses consisting of CRAAAAAAAAAAWLING IIIIIIN MY SKIIIIIIIIIIN, punctuated by about six lines' worth of ellipses in between every two words, and the entire e-Encylopedia of "omgwtfbbq" abbreviations known to modern man thrown in for good measure to create a zesty, spicy Cajun stew of nu-metal, uncontrollable acne, and clumsy attacks. Please, Messieur Chefs, do not disappoint! :cool:
edit: fuck; beaten
no banhammer plaise.
Originally posted by Zenthik
edit: fuck; beaten
no banhammer plaise.
LMAO
:D :D :D :angel:
Originally posted by Zenthik
edit: fuck; beaten
no banhammer plaise.
she/he knows about the ban hammer O_o she/he aint no newbie :)
"Banhammer" having originated, as with everything remotely funny on the Internet, from Something Awful. :o Seriously, Magnum P.I., you're off the case on this one; the IPs don't match, one, and I wouldn't know anyone here from Adam, Eve, or some bizarre shemale conglomeration of the two, in some posters' apparent cases, two.
Originally posted by Zenthik
"Banhammer" having originated, as with everything remotely funny on the Internet, from Something Awful. Seriously, Magnum P.I., you're off the case on this one; the IPs don't match, one, and I wouldn't know anyone here from Adam, Eve, or some bizarre shemale conglomeration of the two, in some posters' apparent cases, two.:rolleyes:
ok helen ;)
Helen who, Keller? I must have one of those newfangled Braille computer screens.
Cryotchekk
21-08-03, 19:20
rawr
I agree pking is cool and fun, Im on saturn now building my pe, and im not joking, i literaly drooled and shivered with excitment when i saw all the people hunting warbots... Im goann PK THE HELL OUT OF YOU PEOPLE, probably starting monday when i have all my cpus and totaly capped, practiced a bit in nf, etc. Im going to have fantastic fun doing it, and i hope to make a real villan of myself. Im gonna pk enemies and faction allies, cause its fun.
I have now beem pked a grand total of 3 times on saturn, and i really didnt mind. 2 were while leveling my pe, and one of them i fought back again the cs using tank with my rapidfire smg and took 1/2 his hp off, it was fun.
But one time was with my 9/9 spy in sewers. That was a little lame.... My cutoff like is 40/40 - 30/30 maybe if nobody else is around, below that i dont pk them, and some say its already too low too low. But 9/9? come on. Thats no thrill, i cant do shit, and u get no prize from my belt. I say, pk around mb, cycrow, swamp caves, etc, but leave the noobs alone, u may drivenew players out.
Cryotchekk
21-08-03, 20:17
Originally posted by VetteroX
...u may drivenew players out.
no mc5 does that
SigmaDraconis
21-08-03, 20:29
me = here
you = also here
then...
you = dead...
or...
bring friends ^.^
the fountain of youth bit is really just a ploy started by 40 yo people throwing a hissy fit because of their years of wisdom did them jack all when it came to someone..ANYONE despite their age...owning them :O
Naturally...you being 40..and me being 17...will disagree..
if you have the tendancy to call everyone a retarded 12yo omgomg *profane word insterted here* because you died.....3 words
SW:G
YES THEY R WORDS!!!
TUPAC get OFF the FORUMS!!!!!!!!11111111111oneoneone
Originally posted by SigmaDraconis
TUPAC get OFF the FORUMS!!!!!!!!11111111111oneoneone Did it ever occur to you that the reason JeffK started with the parodic interchange of ones as exclamation marks would be that impassioned idiots forgot to hold down Shift when typing their "omg i will own u" messages with 50 of them at the end of it? Do you also realize that typing out "one" is neither clever, nor glib, nor witty, nor in the slightest bit amusing, but rather, completely and totally missing the point and making yourself look like a Down's victim?
Well, not like that's any big surprise considering the rest of your post.
If you peekay people who can't possibly fight back to make up for some inadequacy in your life, why are you so OMG shocked and awed that people get pissed at you about it?
Originally posted by Zenthik
Well, if you boys lust after me enough that you HAVE to know, I registered yesterday for the trial, hoping to join a frivolous fusillade of fellows from a flippant frothy forum I frequent (fuckheads).
Sorry to disappoint but I'm male. I know of the Loneliness of the Long-Distance Griefer, though, and I shed a single tear for you. :(
ROFLMAO!
Btw, didn't Shujin asked for this thread to be closed?
Progenitor
21-08-03, 20:39
My 2 cents:
I wouldn't mind the random PKer attacking me, if I could defend myself and kill the bastard without getting the soullight and faction loyalty hit.
That is the only part of it I don't like. If someone attacks me in a non warzone area, in defending myself, I loose soullight and faction loyalty. Just for defending myself. That isn't right.
The PKer is forcing me to kill him to prevent from being killed, I shouldn't have to suffer from the consequences of his actions.
-p
SigmaDraconis
21-08-03, 20:41
Originally posted by Zenthik
Did it ever occur to you that the reason JeffK started with the parodic interchange of ones as exclamation marks would be that impassioned idiots forgot to hold down Shift when typing their "omg i will own u" messages with 50 of them at the end of it? Do you also realize that typing out "one" is neither clever, nor glib, nor witty, nor in the slightest bit amusing, but rather, completely and totally missing the point and making yourself look like a Down's victim?
Well, not like that's any big surprise considering the rest of your post.
If you peekay people who can't possibly fight back to make up for some inadequacy in your life, why are you so OMG shocked and awed that people get pissed at you about it?
Do you also realise i saw this being done in other places over a year ago long before JeffK? :O
BTW I dont GR gank i dont PK defensless people i dont PK newbs..most the time...i PK people in large groups freshly out of a GR....
oh oh..do you also realise...oh nm i was tyring to sound all mature and special like jo0 :(
Roc-a-fella
21-08-03, 20:53
Shujin-is-my-hero
Originally posted by SigmaDraconis
Do you also realise i saw this being done in other places over a year ago long before JeffK? :O
People were doing it since AOL. JeffK was made as a parody around 1999/early 2000 to make fun of these people, and was the first dedicated zing toward the idiot d00d archetype. The point being that typing "one" is pretty retarded.
By the way, if I'm mature, Hell is a balmy 80 Fahrenheit and everybody sits around drinking mai tais with little paper umbrellas as they bask on white sandy beaches.
Dave Kujan
21-08-03, 21:19
50,000nc for the heads of vetterox and siggiedrac, too! hahahahahaha:lol:
all this 1d10t l33t speak with their !!!111 pwn is pretentious juvenile and just plain DONE TO DEATH. this zenthink is one of the most erudite concise turds to come rolling down the pike here! is you're on saturn, you get 50,000nc just for your posts dude!:D w00t!!!111hahahahaha
Whatever, the threads lost its original purpose.
Hope i wasnt too rude earlier *hides from nid*.
Oath.
In a way the small population size hurts this though. I have become such good friends with a majority of the population on pluto (well at least to a tolerable level) that any fighting is strictly for fun instead of having intentions of taking your belt or to make someones "gaming" life miserable.
I have this problem too... that and the fact that I'm too damn nice and forgiving. But when DoY comes out, my tank on Pluto is doing a complete 180.
I'm joining DoY. If you are a city faction, you will be killed. I wont spare n00bs anymore. If you complain about it, I will hunt you down just to kill you again. I will follow you into your apartment and kill you. If you just GRed in, you'll be shot. If I just killed you and you ran back to get your belt, you'll drop another one.
Basically everything I don't do now. Including role playing.
Neocron will fall.
Originally posted by Shujin
i also love noob pkin, i dont care if they are new or not, im bored ima cause them the difficulty to get back to where they were even if its rite outside there apt even if its on other side of the nc map and they got no grs, i get bored so i create fun. but dont get me wrong, i help people out too, i bought a noob cnstr a TL 150 tool from crytons just the other day bcuz he only had a TL 75 and asked me if i could loan him money for a tool. im not cold hearted, i jus have fun when i wanna have fun.Yeah, that is a little cold. Best not to scare noobs away... I mean new players not some veteran player's re-roll. Keeping new players in the game is in the best interest for everyone (KK least of all :rolleyes: ). Part of the fun of the game is the challenge. Easy kills are fine... i guess... for some people....if you like that kinda thing... whatever... it is a social game so I guess there's going to be some anti-social behavior. PKing people who aren't a threat to you will always be frowned upon by the majority of players. Yes, I just spoke on behalf of the WHOLE community :) No poll required! ;)
Originally posted by Zokk
If you are a city faction, you will be killed. I wont spare n00bs anymore. If you complain about it, I will hunt you down just to kill you again. I will follow you into your apartment and kill you. If you just GRed in, you'll be shot. If I just killed you and you ran back to get your belt, you'll drop another one.
you sound like a crackhead :lol:
Originally posted by Nexxy
you sound like a crackhead :lol: Without the amusing/humorous aspects.
I wouldn't know, cause I'm friendly with most of you. o_O
No wonder I get bored on Pluto.
Dave, Your an insult to Homers Greatness, thats all i have to say. If homer played NC, he would pk, I know it.
I never use leet speak... thats for losers. I dont fall into the new lame things like saing owned and pwned or me as meh or whatever the hell nerds are up to now.
All I do is say the truth: Im amazingly good a neocron pvp, and i love pking. Maybe now that I'm on Saturn you will have the honor of being killed by me.
If people didn't bitch and spam DM people I think there would be less pking. Alot of people enjoy pissing people off and I find it funny to laugh at.
IronMonkey
21-08-03, 22:47
Originally posted by SigmaDraconis
Do you also realise i saw this being done in other places over a year ago long before JeffK? :O
BTW I dont GR gank i dont PK defensless people i dont PK newbs..most the time...i PK people in large groups freshly out of a GR....
oh oh..do you also realise...oh nm i was tyring to sound all mature and special like jo0 :(
jeffk started doing it 5 years ago before the 'fbi supposedly locked him up'
Iron Monkey knows what's what. Jolly good!
Oh hay, I get 50k on my first day on the boards :cool:
Should I make it 6 months, I expect to be receiving full fleets of Rhinos driven and gunned by the Red Light's finest, and that girl in Shujin's avatar, and I will sit in a deep brown leather chair in my Turkish robe, monocle on one eye, my huge mastiff lying down in front of me, sipping fine brandy from a snifter, and I will laugh a distinguished English gentleman's laugh.
See you on Saturn old chaps.
Posted by Shujinwould a mod close this thead kinda sick of teh constant flamin
Yup, i agree.
And yeh i know this was a semi bump, but i think mayeb N got bored reading and editing it hee, and using big words doesnt mke you intelligent we all have a thesaurus (whatever).
Spicy chicken and pizza pie,
0ath.
P.S. !!!!!!!!!!111111111111oneoneoneo the spellin and grammar errors are intentional.
Originally posted by Roc-a-fella
Shujin-is-my-hero
Your hero was banned for a week.
Cryotchekk
22-08-03, 13:06
rawr im getting another account to remake my tank rawr!
masta killa > you
rawr!
Dave Kujan
22-08-03, 13:44
Originally posted by VetteroX
Dave, Your an insult to Homers Greatness, thats all i have to say. If homer played NC, he would pk, I know it.
I never use leet speak... thats for losers. I dont fall into the new lame things like saing owned and pwned or me as meh or whatever the hell nerds are up to now.
All I do is say the truth: Im amazingly good a neocron pvp, and i love pking. Maybe now that I'm on Saturn you will have the honor of being killed by me.
d'oh!!!:D actually, homer would be the pk-ee not the pk-er (which pretty much sums up MY situation!)...bart on the other hand...
obtw, 100,000nc for the head of vetterox!muahahahahaha:lol:
Originally posted by Archeus
Your hero was banned for a week.
ROFL :lol:
Shujin, again with the ban? Oye.... :rolleyes:
KRIMINAL99
22-08-03, 16:20
Originally posted by IronMonkey
shujin erm
There is a difference between pvp and
repeated ganking
GR ganking
RPK ganking of newbies
Allied faction ganking
6v1 ganking and than DMing and talking shit about it
Yeah its too bad antipkers aren't able to tell those differences..
and btw the game is doing worse now then it did when it had unlocked weapon drops and no safe slots so don't even start with the "PVP is ruining the game" argument
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