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Duder
20-08-03, 15:56
I was just looking in the gfx.pak thingy, and saw quite a few stuff ive never seen before, im just wondering why they arnt used in retail....its a shame they arnt used, they look pretty neat...


http://www.waaazup.com/p/uploads/guns1.jpg
http://www.waaazup.com/p/uploads/guns2.jpg
http://www.waaazup.com/p/uploads/guns3.jpg
http://www.waaazup.com/p/uploads/spells1.jpg
http://www.waaazup.com/p/uploads/yakarma.jpg
http://www.waaazup.com/p/uploads/phoenix1.jpg
http://www.waaazup.com/p/uploads/pp1.jpg
http://www.waaazup.com/p/uploads/whoa1.jpg
http://www.waaazup.com/p/uploads/whoa2.jpg
http://www.waaazup.com/p/uploads/whoa3.jpg
http://www.waaazup.com/p/uploads/whoa4.jpg
http://www.waaazup.com/p/uploads/whoa5.jpg
http://www.waaazup.com/p/uploads/BD.jpg

Hell, even PE clothes and faces...

http://www.waaazup.com/p/uploads/red11.jpg
http://www.waaazup.com/p/uploads/shirt1.jpg
http://www.waaazup.com/p/uploads/trousers.jpg
http://www.waaazup.com/p/uploads/goth shirt.jpg
http://www.waaazup.com/p/uploads/trouser goth.jpg
http://www.waaazup.com/p/uploads/indian style.jpg
http://www.waaazup.com/p/uploads/bitch.jpg
http://www.waaazup.com/p/uploads/violet.jpg
http://www.waaazup.com/p/uploads/White1.jpg

G.0.D.
20-08-03, 15:57
becuase kk has a secret conspiracy...

hinch
20-08-03, 16:00
yeah some of them ive seen before

hive got the spells template as blood one day in a gfx glitch.

i do believe though that the pe stuff needs to be implemented asap.

also the spells should be too.

not alot extra in the guns department but the signs etc should also be in cluded however instead of being that nice futureistic grey etc they`ll end up being that nasty fking green that all the signs in nc are i think some sign variety is required

Mingerroo
20-08-03, 16:04
Well, all the red PP stuff in there has a manga theme, perhaps they didnt want that in the end. The clothes wont look right if you were to change them using the clothing changer thing so thats why they arent in. (i think). The heads are good but maybe they had a limit and just took those ones out (through voting by beta players or something like that).

And the rest of the stuff probably isnt in because KK either had nowhere to put it or they felt it didnt fit in with the theme of their game :)

Thats my guess anyway.

hinch
20-08-03, 16:06
the psi icon 3 across and 2 down the dancing style man is called
"holy riverdance"

Helen Angilley
20-08-03, 16:06
Am I the only one who thinks this stuff might be used/replace the curent stuff when DOY is released? o_O

ie A total make-over of the game.

hinch
20-08-03, 16:10
your all alone helen your always alone
some of it is old stuff thats removed other stuff is new

Original monk
20-08-03, 16:10
Daamn the clothes look GOOD the spells look even better especially the rain-spell and them poisonspells and offcourse that last kind of grenadelauncher Looks COOOOOOOWWWL (reminds me a bit of the grenadelauncher in quake2, even quake 3) and i would like to see the yakarma logo changed also, and also i wonna have that bank logo in :P lol looks like a shoppinglist :P

ow and them spells where they are dancin (same as shootin someones feet or so i think, BAM BAM dance brotha DANCE !!)
and them x-ray spell so ya can see what weapons they have on them or sumthing :P

Lol and coowl girl-faces and offcourse that hypnotise spell and them logo's they have to implement fo sure: NCPD, CA and the sypher logo offcourse :angel:

Smugly
20-08-03, 16:10
Doubt it. One of the things I'm sure I heard was that the rest of the world wasn't getting any kind of overhaul with Dome of York, simply because it would be too much work. Would be nice, but I doubt it'll happen

Scikar
20-08-03, 16:14
Maybe one of the artists did this but quit before NC was released and asked for his work to be taken out?

Archeus
20-08-03, 16:15
Could be DOY stuff?

I also noticed a costume with the words "Racoon" on them?

Duder
20-08-03, 16:17
Originally posted by Archeus
Could be DOY stuff?

I also noticed a costume with the words "Racoon" on them?

Yup, but it was ugly...


Im just suprised that a lot of artwork thats neato is unused...

Shockwave
20-08-03, 16:28
I'd say these are some of the updated graphics textures that KK have been talking about. The guns look a LOT cooler, and there are a few spells there I can't identify (Especially that bottom-left one - that pic scares the crap out of me! :) ). My guess is that KK are distributing this sort of thing in bite-sized chunks over a series of patches in preparation for (holds breath) DoY. They probably need the updated graphics engine that KK have mentioned, too (Hence they'ere not in the game yet).

Shock.

Edit:
If "Gira Bank" are what I think they are, then we may well have a decent money storage system inbound. *crosses fingers*

Scikar
20-08-03, 16:36
I dunno, the spells in the bottom right are my favourites. Blessed Nothing and Holy Fuck All. I like the Holy Parallelogram (sp?) too. But the winner hands down is Holy Hypnotise. :p

Devils Thrill
20-08-03, 16:37
http://www.waaazup.com/p/uploads/guns1.jpg Think thats a mining tool
http://www.waaazup.com/p/uploads/guns3.jpg New "GUN" and "Land mines" and "ammo packs" :) , i hope
http://www.waaazup.com/p/uploads/spells1.jpg Holy River dance spells ?
http://www.waaazup.com/p/uploads/phoenix1.jpg this is old, i think the "Trade Union" faction replaced "Phoenix.nc"

dont think ive seen any of the other stuff

hinch
20-08-03, 16:48
the gun in the bottom right is a beta 1-2 gun its a fusion cannon and should be reimplemented within the next patch or 2


on a side note the subway stations on jupiter have been redecorated when are the other servers getting their redecoration?

bibliotequa
20-08-03, 16:49
My god, that yakarma log right below the spells is 1337, ive seen some of that stuff when the sky gets bugged before, i wonder what the green booster was suposed to do, and would you look at those faction logos, way cooler than the ones now. Also, a new clothes shop, the bank, and all those spells *drools* is that third spell down from the top, and 3rd from the right a levitation spell? *drools*

Duder
20-08-03, 16:52
Originally posted by hinch
the gun in the bottom right is a beta 1-2 gun its a fusion cannon and should be reimplemented within the next patch or 2


on a side note the subway stations on jupiter have been redecorated when are the other servers getting their redecoration?


Hmm, the gun at the botton right should maybe a autoshotgun....or a big pistol....heheheh.....



And subways in jupiter have been redecorated?

The thing i would like to see would be that the GRs would be like entering an airport, like a big step to travel somewhere far, and subways a major transportation device in neocron...but bleh...

Also the shops, the shops would be cool if they had a door, some funky "shopping" music, you know, ambient beats....er, and have those glassed windows with wares in, like f ex. guns, but eh...

ericdraven
20-08-03, 16:55
Hmm.. what's the spell at the bottom, left corner.. looks like.. ehm.. nevermind.. :)

Holy Fecundation maybe. :p

hinch
20-08-03, 17:12
i didnt mean fusion cannon :)
i meant fusion RIFLE

i cant find the thread about that now

and yes the viarosso station has had some benches and some plants and stuff put around in it just to make it look more like a station

Kendo Averly
20-08-03, 17:23
Hell it isn't just the graphics that aren't in the game, there's a shedload of sounds that aren't!

"welcome to protopharma incorporated"

"plaza station, next stop, via rosso station"

"outzone station, attention, unsafe area"

"construction process started" "construction process complete"

"warning, body health low"
"warning, electric shock detected"

"password sequence accepted, access granted"

the list goes on

zanzan
20-08-03, 17:27
omg 0_0, how do i implanet does files btw?

El_MUERkO
20-08-03, 17:29
Some cool stuff, the extra sounds would add atmosphere to an alreay cool looking and soundung game.

Werent mines in beat 4, i seem to remember playing with them in PP1 :confused:

hinch
20-08-03, 17:33
theyre still in now gm spawn only there was talk of putting them into game a few patches ago and theres a load of screenies from the test server where we stuck them all over pepper park then ran through them there were issues getting them to work right apparently on op wars etc. so they were never finally implemented

zanzan
20-08-03, 17:34
i want thoes sounds in the game!!!1!111

Omnituens
20-08-03, 17:40
the sounds like "Warning.. body health low" are inspired by the HEV suit in Half-life i think.

if only they stole other things too

*cough* GAUSS GUN *cough*

Hippieman
20-08-03, 17:41
I would like some of those logos and clothes and sounds in!

Psychoninja
20-08-03, 17:43
I posted some skins for spells I've never seen before, there are ofcourse aton of items in the game no one knows about, or can obtain without a GM.

\\Fényx//
20-08-03, 17:48
Originally posted by hinch
theyre still in now gm spawn only there was talk of putting them into game a few patches ago and theres a load of screenies from the test server where we stuck them all over pepper park then ran through them there were issues getting them to work right apparently on op wars etc. so they were never finally implemented


OMG!!11111 that was me and Flyk :p !!!

Flyk got one that was spawned by a GM, and I made like 150 BP's and made the mines and we megaspammed PP with them :lol: that were sooo much fun lol... jeezzz... that was like just as epics were on test O_o seems like yesterday

hinch
20-08-03, 17:50
yup i got a screenie somewhere of you setting one off in A&W next to shop guys head :)

\\Fényx//
20-08-03, 17:51
Originally posted by hinch
yup i got a screenie somewhere of you setting one off in A&W next to shop guys head :)


My tank lost alllloooooottaaaa SL that day :lol:

Threaded A&W in PP with em, then watched as people ran in OMG the explosions were massive ROFL! shame they do fuck all damage, unless theyr NPC's lol

bibliotequa
20-08-03, 18:04
sure, spamming a building full of mines starts off as fun an games, but then jim teh newbeh goes to pp to hunt some mutties for a mission, and as he walks in, he hits 1 mine, the sheer force of the explosion pushes him into another, which pushes him into another, which pushes him into another, etc... till jim's corpse is flying across pp1 faster than a hoverbike. :( how evil :p

hinch
20-08-03, 18:05
they wouldnt actually kill him he`d just get blown abot with loosing about 10 hp

RuButt
20-08-03, 18:08
Originally posted by Duder

http://www.waaazup.com/p/uploads/guns1.jpg





OMG I GOT THOOSE WEIRD LOOKING NEEDLES FROM THE RP EVENT!!! OMGOM OMGOMGOM!!!111111111111

Kasumi
20-08-03, 18:11
If i am correct the Yellow and Green Needles added 3 or 4 to STR.. there were 4 of them.. with those you could wear the level 4 tank PA =P

bibliotequa
20-08-03, 18:12
na, theyll kill some1 if there are enough of them in the area

GT_Rince
20-08-03, 18:14
Originally posted by Duder

http://www.waaazup.com/p/uploads/violet.jpg


Hey - I think I been out with her o_O



:D

RuButt
20-08-03, 18:21
hmm, gonna go and try to get some screens of them...brb

RuButt
20-08-03, 18:25
http://www.waaazup.com/p/uploads/wrecked_needle_green.jpg



http://www.waaazup.com/p/uploads/wrecked_needle_yellow.jpg

\\Fényx//
20-08-03, 18:29
So all they actually do is use up cabinet space? O_o :confused:

RuButt
20-08-03, 18:32
yep...along with my useless dogtags.....took me ages to find that appie....lol


and they got one more use, only i seem to have them, so im like....special....and im like.....well.....

thewarrior008
20-08-03, 18:38
omfg THere is a XRAY spell to look uner peoples clothes OMFG OMFG OMFGOM b3 ROXORED :p

nonamebrandeggs
20-08-03, 19:28
http://www.waaazup.com/p/uploads/whoa5.jpg

Omfg are you serious? You don't recognize the second one down? Do you never zone back and forth between PP1 and P3? Yes you do! I know you do! You must have seen that sign a billion times...

!!

XenivouS
20-08-03, 19:34
one of those psi spell icons almost looks like a man sort of transparent of sorts, perhaps a monk cloak spell?

Eledhbrant
20-08-03, 19:52
Originally posted by XenivouS
one of those psi spell icons almost looks like a man sort of transparent of sorts, perhaps a monk cloak spell?

Yeah it looked like some sort of invisibility spell to me

Duder
20-08-03, 19:57
Originally posted by nonamebrandeggs
http://www.waaazup.com/p/uploads/whoa5.jpg

Omfg are you serious? You don't recognize the second one down? Do you never zone back and forth between PP1 and P3? Yes you do! I know you do! You must have seen that sign a billion times...

!!
Yeah...but what about the other 3 then...hmmmm????

Tregard
20-08-03, 19:58
"Co-Dee's Sushi Bar"

:D

[edit] in items/items13.bmp the top center knife....
what is that?!? 8|

thewarrior008
20-08-03, 20:00
Originally posted by XenivouS
one of those psi spell icons almost looks like a man sort of transparent of sorts, perhaps a monk cloak spell?


this spells are the older version of wat we have right now i tink the one spell is holy true sight sanctum the other is antidote i see holy thunderstorm a anti poison sanctum too

SilentGravity
20-08-03, 20:58
There was a PSI Cloak in the works...but they never finished like many, many, many things... You really should read those all lists of features the game would have from old Fansites.

Helen Angilley
20-08-03, 21:04
Originally posted by SilentGravity
There was a PSI Cloak in the works...but they never finished like many, many, many things... You really should read those all lists of features the game would have from old Fansites.

Was it a "cloak" as in the stealth sense or was it a cloak in the clothing sense?

SilentGravity
20-08-03, 21:05
Originally posted by Helen Angilley
Was it a "cloak" as in the stealth sense or was it a cloak in the clothing sense?

Stealth, but I belive they also said something about a cloak robe also *goes to dig up the old chat logs*.

Nexxy
20-08-03, 21:13
http://neocron.jafc.de/showthread.php?s=&threadid=47276 ...

DarkPhoenix
20-08-03, 21:21
Originally posted by Tregard
"Co-Dee's Sushi Bar"

:D

[edit] in items/items13.bmp the top center knife....
what is that?!? 8|

Its not in my items folder, where did you find it?

Marx
20-08-03, 21:36
The Gira Bank one is used, check in Via 3 near the cliff of doom.

:D

FBI
20-08-03, 21:51
there saving it for DOY...DuH!@!

\\Fényx//
20-08-03, 21:55
how the fudge do you open the files to access these???

zanzan
20-08-03, 22:38
Originally posted by Nexxy
http://neocron.jafc.de/showthread.php?s=&threadid=47276 ...

its not even funny...its sad, the only thing that kk did is puting stealth..not even a psi one..ffs why the fuck do they kill the game before building half of it?

Duder
20-08-03, 22:43
Originally posted by \\Fényx//
how the fudge do you open the files to access these???

I use a special h4x that you can find here (http://neocron2.jafc.de/showthread.php?s=&threadid=71634). [Hint: its not a h4x, so relax]

Ka0s^
21-08-03, 00:08
i can see the pak files how do i listen to the audios?

Tratos
21-08-03, 00:28
Ok as the thing states under my name im an idiot, so how to i view the pics and stuff and how do i listen to the sounds??

:confused: :confused:

Any help much apprechiated (sp?) thanx in advance

Judge
21-08-03, 00:50
Originally posted by Tregard
"Co-Dee's Sushi Bar"

:D

[edit] in items/items13.bmp the top center knife....
what is that?!? 8|

Err thats the junk knife I think.

There is so much shit in here that I have never seen before, I wonder why they don't use it too. So much cool stuff.


EDIT: Look at items/items15.bmp Do those things in the bottom right look like the credit cards mentioned in that thread nexxy linked to?

EDIT again: Whoa, using all those terrain BMPs you could make the best map of the wastelands. Every path and all the terrain.

MadDog
21-08-03, 01:00
the gun in the bottom right is a beta 1-2 gun its a fusion cannon and should be reimplemented within the next patch or 2

your smoking some good weed...

there were no heavy weapons in beta 2 :rolleyes:

Mingerroo
21-08-03, 01:03
I really like the look of the rifle at the bottom right of items0. It looks like something that would shoot either a wave of energy, or a set of spinning discs. :D It just looks sleek and I would gladly have that instead of my raygun image and model. :D

Scikar
21-08-03, 01:06
I want a Shuriken gun! And a Shrieker Cannon!

hinch
21-08-03, 02:04
Originally posted by MadDog
your smoking some good weed...

there were no heavy weapons in beta 2 :rolleyes:

i corrected my self to rifle later on when i realised i`d put cannon there was a thread about the gun on the german forum a few weeks ago codi said it was going to be put into game in a few patches

Arcadius
21-08-03, 02:06
I WANT METEOR STRIKE FOR APUS!

Heavyporker
21-08-03, 02:08
Shacer... tone down the Diablo II, huh? :D

But, yeah, I want that triple fireball thingie... and that thing that looks like a giant explosion coming out of the ground...

Arcadius
21-08-03, 02:10
AND DOGS WITH BEES THAT COME OUT OF THEIR MOUTH.

nonamebrandeggs
21-08-03, 02:14
Originally posted by Arcadius
AND DOGS WITH BEES THAT COME OUT OF THEIR MOUTH.

... :eek: :lol: O_o :rolleyes:

G.0.D.
21-08-03, 02:35
and sharks with lazers on their heads...

Devils Thrill
21-08-03, 02:50
Originally posted by Tratos
Ok as the thing states under my name im an idiot, so how to i view the pics and stuff and how do i listen to the sounds??

:confused: :confused:

Any help much apprechiated (sp?) thanx in advance
Use my program "Nc VFS Browser" to view the images and play the sounds
download the new version from my site
http://www.geocities.com/d_evils_thrill/
http://www.geocities.com/devils_thrill_mirror/


there are lots of stuff not used or not seen, its like they wanted to put something new in game but then didnt ?
or they making us download new stuff bit by bit to make the patches smaller ?

Tratos
21-08-03, 03:17
Use my program "Nc VFS Browser" to view the images and play the sounds

ok i tried your prog didn't work, sed somthing about missing dependancy, i read the thing on your site for quickfix but where do i get the file i need?

Thanx

Tratos

Q`alooaith
21-08-03, 03:36
Originally posted by Scikar
I want a Shuriken gun! And a Shrieker Cannon!


lol, and I want XV15 Power armor... we don't all get what we want....



maybe a railrifle, they look cool.. Railcannon's for the Rhino's.. and make the rhino's hover.. and change their shape....



They should do more type of psi's and Weapons realy, like gat fussion cannon's or somthing like that, you know weapons that look diffrent and diffrent effects but do same sort of thing as others.. Say the gat fussion would do same sorts of damage as gat cannon, but slower RoF and Energy force damage....


I can dream, they do have a lot of unused junk, or stuff that's still in game, but has been removed by a patch and not put back in....
Like the junk knives, they used to drop off mutes, and gat pistols, they are still there and f you got a BP you can make em, but they are not dropped anymore...

I think a change back to early retail loot tables would be nice, then a nerf to weapon costs and sell prices since thats why it was changed in the first place..

mdares
21-08-03, 03:57
i'm seeing lots new spells (holy meteor strike, holy exray vision, erm, holy riverdance is a must have; and also looks like a invisiblity thingy wit the dude thats greyed out...)

Mingerroo
21-08-03, 12:24
The coolest sound I have found so far are the copbots ones like "feel the law" :D

hinch
22-08-03, 02:04
i found that giga bank image by accident its still in NC out the back of the NC bank zone

if your wondering nc bank is now called stock x and it would appaer used to be branded giga bank since they missed one of the images when moving them all over to stock x ones :) if anybody want to see it i`ll post a screenie i took just before i fell out the back into the water/floor

Ka0s^
25-08-03, 11:44
how do i extract the images so ican use em, it currently seems to extract it as a pak file...how do i make it a plain old .bmp??