View Full Version : What i would have done differently with Neocron (a mild criticism)
Okay forget everything out there but the maps. Why does neocron only use one color for its signs? I know it kinda goes along with the cool RPOS color scheme, but really i think it would look like a much more like a vibrant city with more than the color green. Why is everything in PP red? Is there some law?
Originally posted by Futureman
Why is everything in PP red? Is there some law?
Red Light district I believe.....
Originally posted by Ulle
Red Light district I believe.....
:lol: He's right though, red is pretty much the colour of sex, which is pretty much the reason for Pepper Park.
yeah but like he said wheres the variety?(but spelt correctly unles its right in which case scew u all i can speeel)
Ch0
Originally posted by =Chojin=
unles its right in which case scew u all i can speeel
Yeah it shows too. :p
ever been to a red light district? i have. They don't all have red lights everywhere. The point is to have lights that call your attention to things, not to blend in with everything else:rolleyes: I was thinking how it would be cool if Plaza 1 were a little more like Times Square, and if PP1 had more neon-looking signs. Granted not actual neon, because the technology is better, but something with a sort of trashy look.
Are you really serious in thinking that "red-light districts" only have red lights?!?!?!? Its a little too literal, don't you think? Its not like the garment district in NYC only has clothes.
dude the whole point is - THAT ITS COMPLETLY FITHLY......
The red should stay.... remember this is cyber punk style game set in the FAR future.. sex is a big seller now.. imagine what its like with that much technology.
Originally posted by Ren
dude the whole point is - THAT ITS COMPLETLY FITHLY......
The red should stay.... remember this is cyber punk style game set in the FAR future.. sex is a big seller now.. imagine what its like with that much technology.
Who thinks red is a filthy color? Honestly, red isn't considered filthy. When you look at a coke can do you think filthy? Now if i were going to design something filthy you could put up signs and ads with naked women or obviously something a little more creative like something with video? Now THAT is filthy. the color red? Seems a little tame for my post-cyberpunk vision. Well like i said its just a mild complaint but it does prevent a little bit of immersion for me in certain areas of PP, plaza and viarosso. The wastes are cool, but NC could use a little sprucing up, as far as i am concerned.
Originally posted by Ren
dude the whole point is - THAT ITS COMPLETLY FITHLY......
The red should stay.... remember this is cyber punk style game set in the FAR future.. sex is a big seller now.. imagine what its like with that much technology.
Girls in skimpy dresses dancing out of time and just twirling round in circles? Wow they've made leaps and bounds there! :p
Originally posted by Futureman
When you look at a coke can do you think filthy?
likley yes... the people behind the production and marketing of Coke aint stupid....
when u put it like that... i really think they do market it like that.. sex is the biggest seller.
Originally posted by Futureman
Are you really serious in thinking that "red-light districts" only have red lights?!?!?!? Its a little too literal, don't you think? Its not like the garment district in NYC only has clothes.
May i remind you that this is a game, things are supposed to be bold, bright and very deliberate to emphasis areas. Also I would also like to point out that PP is not all red, but has areas of yellowness mainly around the shop areas and neofrag along with a more green atmosphere as you near the subway.
Although, that is only from memory, I have not been stationed up in PP for quite some time, Via Rosso seems to be where i have been put on duty of late.
please don't mention coke. it was the worst thing they ever did was to replace cocaine with caffeine.
Originally posted by Scikar
red is pretty much the colour of sex
only if you do it at the wrong time of the month...
*hides*
Okay but the main point is this:
Why the same colors? Its not natural. I don't care if PP uses "a lot" of red or if they use "mostly" red or whatever. What about Plaza ? Why all green? I am just saying that if for some reason the technology to make signs with other colors was lost in WWIII this is okay. But considering how unlikely that is, why not have more color? Is it a palette (sp?) issue? i doubt it, but i suppose it could be. PP is just one part of the problem. You know if you wanted something filthy, you could put up video monitors showing porn. But of course that may be a little to extreme for the US, so it wouldn't make it. But instead all one color? I actually like PP because the red is a more natural color. But Plaza and Viarosso have no excuse. Nobody would want an all-green world. I mean what do people think? Hmm, i would really like to advertise my gun store, what can i do to attract people's attention? I know PUT UP ANOTHER GREEN SIGN! That would be novel!
You would think a futuristic city would look "at least" as colorful as time square considering the intrusion of advertising into our daily lives.
Okay i am being a little harsh in the criticisms here, i know. I want to say that I love neocron, and I need to start attending Neocrack Anonymous. Obviously KK has done a lot of good things with the game. I just think this tiny oversight could be preventing the game from being better than it is. Hey im sure the players could come up with better signs anyway. We should have a contest and have player created art installed. i think it would be cool. After all, neocron is kind of like "our" city anyway. We should be able to customize it a little, don't you think?
What would they have to do? replace a few files? I don't know how it works but if it would be easy (not counting the artwork which could come from the community) then why not?
Personally I think there should be player owned shops, and they can design their own sign, there'll be like a bunch of preset logos and fonts, and you just make your sign out of those and pick colours. It's all being made out of a selection so there's little to download, since all the fonts and logos can be added in a patch.
In lineage 2 players can make playerstores too.. i think it works great... you can type in a message which is over your head all the time and ppl can trade you and see what you sell... the shop idea with colours is a great idea also :)
.cy
I'd like to of seen multi level plaza's all inter-linking with each other...more than 2-3 entrances per floor....
On the 1st floor would be dim lit and muggy, no sky line ....2nd floor would be brighter few bars/Yo's/ cheapy ass shops, no sky line ...... 3rd floor better shops/bars bit of a sky line ....4th Posh as hell........Top shops/bars/ full sky line,
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