View Full Version : Please increase quality of rare weapon drops :|
Before voting, please take the time to read my points as they
may not be good and you may vote for something you didn't
intend to. (heh big whoop) :)
Why KK should increase rare dropped weapon stats (take action):
Not many people use Judgement Day launchers, STORM laser
cannons, Chaos Flame Avalanches, or Energy Soulblades because
they just suck. Who wants to use crappy gun/spell/melee when
the stats are so LOW (60% - 75% in all fields.. usually 3 fields
are in 60's and one in 70's).
for example:
Who would use a storm laser cannon when there's a TT epic laser
cannon that's 120% in all stats (meaning 1 slot is all you need)?
I have a 4 slot S.T.O.R.M laser cannon, stats: 65,70,65,65. This
is crap, even with HeavyUltima and a Larent mod (if your crazy
like me to spend 20 million for it).. you can't even come close to
artifact these weapons, but more important.. it's not even worth
it of you could!
So whats's the deal KK, the qualit is quite outdated for how the
game is now. These were introduced before rare weapons and
techparts existed, maybe it's time to increase the stats on these?
I mean we have rares now that when constructed have over
100% in all fields where as Store bought weapons depreciate in
quality as the TL of the item increases. But, rare dropped/looted
weapons for mobs are just useless. Maybe back in beta3 they
were cool to have, or shit even beta4 (remember when Storm
laser cannons killed anyone within 3 shots? nerf) but today these
weapons are not used or cared about in a Quality + Slot world.
People would probably shut up if you made these weapons
viable or within reach of getting it artifact (with ultima if need be)
about creating new weapons and rares. I'd use the storm as
my primary weapon if i could get it artifacted, it's my beta style :)
Some facts to consider while thinking about increasing rare
weapon drop stats:
1) Months ago when all these 120/120 mobs were killed by noob
spys, maybe then these bad quality weapons would be more
appreciated. After they 10 folded high level mobs, these weapons
were harder to get and for their quality, not acceptable or worth
it. Go kill a storm bot by yourself now, or a 120/120 harbingers
point red bad guy and see if the 0 slot to 2 slot weapons you get
at "GOOD 60-75%" are worth the trouble you had to go through
dying etc .
2) In neocron, weapon diversity IS NEEDED just as much as player
skins for avaters. Currently, it's a Cursed Soul, Holy Lightning,
Liberator world with a touch of pain easer and fire apoc.. and
even a little pinch of pestilence.
3) Because rares are constructed with 100% in all stats and get
artifact easily with ultima mods. Store bought weapons capped
in construction are decent, 4 slots can artifact them. Then theirs
the rare weapon droploot. This game has evolved so much since
they implimented these weapons, it's time for an increase.
This isn't about balance, if anything they all suck. But maybe they
could be better with a decent quality? Rare weapons from tech
parts will ALWAYS BE better than these weapons.
TT laser cannon > storm (aim,speed.range over damage)
moonstriker > judgement day (in every wya)
devils grace > energy soulblade (big time)
Chaos queen avalanche just sucks period. Even if they dropped
artifact monks wouldn't use it.. cmon
MY POINT:
Can all of the rare dropped weapons get a 15% increase in
quality? Something around 80-95 randomly in all 4 stats would
would be perfect and on par with storebought weapons (which can be mass produced unlike these).
Just something to make anyone consider using these but more
important, to compensate for the High leveled mobs as they are
today, not as they were back in early betas.
Thanks :)
(didn't know where to post this, it's not an idea, it's a plead)
(Please note everyone, it's not hard to increase weapon stats
threshold by 15%, there are no balance issues at all either)
[P]
well said... you didnt actually put that ultima and laurent into a storm did you ??? O_o
they should +30% to all stats for new drops and existing ones.
increase slot chance at the same time
booya! 17 USEFUL ESBs for me!
Couldn't agree more. Not everyone has the time or inclination to camp bosses for hours on end just to get a worthwhile weapon instead of a piece of junk. My Flameavalanche is languishing in my gogu, tbh I should just throw it off the roof of medicare....
we worked frigging hard to get that (not a high level team) and we get a 60% 1 slot spell? o_O
And I'd rather use a Ryker rocket launcher over the average Judgment Day anytime. :mad:
Originally posted by \\Fényx//
well said... you didnt actually put that ultima and laurent into a storm did you ??? O_o
Not yet anyway ;)
It's what brought me to finally write this thread, it's been bottled
up inside me since beta4 man. These weapons were tossed in
plaza1 like medkits, they are so useless back then and extremely
easy for everyone to get. Today they're harder, much harder to
get and even 4 slots arn't enough to make a decent weapon out
of them. 4 slots is VERY RARE, 5 is not probable aka impossible
which leads me to believe this was done for balance issues a
long time ago when they were first introduced, KK seemed to
totally forget about these weapons, they might dissapear one
patch in the future, who knows.
ALL I ask for is a little quality increase to compensate. Not much
to ask for at all. There's 0 balance issues anyway, if you want to
worry about these little rare brother jr versions of their daddy's,
at bad qualities, then there's something wrong with you. big time :)
They shoulda did this a while ago actually, like when they reduced
armor degradation on vehicles and armor when the mobs were
ten-folded.
edit:
Originally posted by HellHound
Couldn't agree more. Not everyone has the time or inclination to camp bosses for hours on end just to get a worthwhile weapon instead of a piece of junk. My Flameavalanche is languishing in my gogu, tbh I should just throw it off the roof of medicare....
we worked frigging hard to get that (not a high level team) and we get a 60% 1 slot spell? o_O
And I'd rather use a Ryker rocket launcher over the average Judgment Day anytime. :mad:
I agree with everything you said, exactly. These weapons could
be put to good use by a considerate number of people if they
were viable. It would be such an easy tweak that could have
such a positive impact on us, really.
As for the avalanche spells, i'm throwing all mine off Viarosso3
ledge, into the ocean they will rest in peace forever :rolleyes:
Original monk
11-08-03, 15:12
yeah i remember all em tanks standing around with their STORMlaser showing them all in PP1 during bet4(when there where no copbots) it owned.
I think you are a 100% right FBI, nice plead, KK should do sumething about that.
Only 1 thing, when i was an APU i would like to use the firequeenflame-avalance (full artifact one that is) cause i think it would rock full artifact, ya can get 100 firestacks in a couple seconds with it then lol, 2 bad the max ya can get now is about 70 % stats
Peeping Tom
11-08-03, 15:16
bah you nicked my idea.. i was jsut to lazy to make a post :P
voted yes...
K4F
as long as existing rare drops also get the stat increase, my avalanche spell needs the boost...
Originally posted by Original monk
yeah i remember all em tanks standing around with their STORMlaser showing them all in PP1 during bet4(when there where no copbots) it owned.
Yes exactly. Storm laser cannons quite simply owned, everyone
was doomed when they saw these pointed at them. I remember
a neofrag match in beta4 with ratkiller's pe. Totally annihilated
her, because STORM was:
1) Lethal + deadly to all
2) Unbalanced with range + aim
KK quickly nerfed these to being paper weight, in other words,
long range cannons. But back then, the quality of these weapons
was alright because even with those crappy stats the weapon
was over powered.
Today the weapon is underpowered, they all are to be exact.
But for them to be even viable in todays Retail version, they need
to get a quality increase big time. Currently, they are indeed
paper weight ultimately.
edit:
Originally posted by Peeping Tom
bah you nicked my idea.. i was jsut to lazy to make a post :P
voted yes...
K4F
SO am I, it's just today I got fed up with these weapons and as
to why they are useless..bingo they're quality + newer rares
introduced in late beta4 + hard to get slotted is what made these
weapons noticeably not worth: 1) Getting 2) Using 3) Selling
Originally posted by Omnituens
as long as existing rare drops also get the stat increase, my avalanche spell needs the boost...
This is stretching it WAY too far man. It's not hard to get these
things with a ppu and a friend or two if your all capped. But more
important even harder to get decent slottage and quality. Just
forget the old one's, they can't do anything anyway. Once the
weapon is created on the server it can't be modified like that.
Let them make a simple tweak in the drop code to give the quality
a boost, that's all we can ask and pray for. The end result will be
worth it. Never ask for the impossible with KK, it has to be
within grasp for them to even consider it.
For those of you who are still clueless, here's a screenshot:
http://www.waaazup.com/p/uploads/ImageStormLC.jpg
Maybe back then this was accepted, but today in a newer retail
world full of 2-5 slot artifact rares (cursed souls, liberators), this
kind of quality and slot probability is not acceptable for any of us.
WOW.. Not to mention, these were around at the same quality
when there was no specialization, the game has evolved so much
since beta it's incredible. I can't imagine how it is for the early
beta3 peoples. Nuts.
Anyway, glad to see no negative posts so far. I'm expecting to
see a post like "But those are tank and monk weapons anyway"
yeah, well those are the two strongest classes in game, and
the mobs are based off them, and drop accordingly. no?
God forbid, there should be more weapon drop variety, no doubt.
But one step at a time everyone, please. One big leap for manking.
But those are tank and monk weapons anyway
:) :D :)
Originally posted by \\Fényx//
But those are tank and monk weapons anyway
:) :D :)
Yeah, they are. But try telling a private eye or spy that to their
face. Feal the goosebumps on your neck, fear is you :P
Originally posted by FBI
This is stretching it WAY too far man. It's not hard to get these
things with a ppu and a friend or two if your all capped. But more
important even harder to get decent slottage and quality. Just
forget the old one's, they can't do anything anyway. Once the
weapon is created on the server it can't be modified like that.
Dammit, what do i do with these then?
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/daniel_rogers1/ESB.jpg
they are already worthless, with a uppage on the new ones, these will be f*cking waste of storage space.
or... they will be the last old ones left... therefore more valuble...
WHATEVER
:D
For once, Fire Mode: Stroke seems to be accurate.
Originally posted by Scikar
For once, Fire Mode: Stroke seems to be accurate.
:lol:
i might go and hand a few out on saturn now, plaza 2.
in fact, at 5 o'clock, i'll give away a few 1 slotter
/me goes and gets more, he cant get low on stock now!
Originally posted by Omnituens
Dammit, what do i do with these then?
they are already worthless, with a uppage on the new ones, these will be f*cking waste of storage space.WHATEVER[/b]
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Just forget about the old weapons guys, let's worry about the
new ones. Then you'd have a reason to go out with a friend and
get a new one. Because it would be worth it and viable maybe.
guywithnoears
12-08-03, 03:35
yeah dude...i've gotten like 293749374 chaos queen flameavalanche and yet i've never used them seriously.
Maybe carry FBI's principle through to rares? IE Electric tempest over CS stuff and spells. Seriously though u cant sell these crappy rares, they shouldnt be rares, and they really just taking up the drop-rate of what could be CS stuff, aint they!
Originally posted by MisterP
Maybe carry FBI's principle through to rares? IE Electric tempest over CS stuff and spells. Seriously though u cant sell these crappy rares, they shouldnt be rares, and they really just taking up the drop-rate of what could be CS stuff, aint they!
Maybe some of these lower TL rares should drop whole rarely off
high leveled mobs. They're not worth it really for anyone to make.
Psychoninja
12-08-03, 05:24
An increase would be nice for drop rate, I hate getting 1 part every 5 freaking grims...... thats if I'm Lucky.
If you ask me there are too many rares, and rare parts for the drop rate to be so low, I know it actually makes them rare and all but no one has the time, or wants to run around for 5 horus only to end up with 3 parts.
Also, a good idea would be making spawned mobs drop parts also, or cave monsters. Grims spawn little reapers, they could drop parts, nothing wrong with milking a grim for little reapers, would make it a little more interesting. Also the LTs and Soldiers in the caves could drop them also, hell, maybe even the minions....
I tried hunting for tech parts so I could bring in some quick cash, but soon enough, I was selling more parts than I had, and my inventory was running extremly low, I don't want to even bother with trying to replace all of it, it's just too hard.
Sorry FBI, where you for or against the change ? ;) jk
Damn well put, if this dosent make it into the game then there is no hope. 5 stars.
Originally posted by Drexel
Sorry FBI, where you for or against the change ? ;) jk
Damn well put, if this dosent make it into the game then there is no hope. 5 stars.
Well, i'm for the change ;)
But I think this is long over due and because we have these new
rare weapons these days, no one cared to write a detailed thread
like this. But, I'm the type of player that likes all weapons and I
think more people would like these weapons as well, if they just
wern't so horrible in quality.
@Psychoninja
The techpart drop rate is sorta sour right now, but it has nothing
to do with this thread, it's sorta misleading and off topic too :confused:
My Goal for this thread: Increase quality on rare dropped
weapons to make them viable. Nothing more, nothing less.
edit: great job guys, 5 stars :)
I'd be all for it. They should drop at at least perfect quality to be on par with other rares, and have the overall slot chances increased for them (since it seems all they ever drop are 0-2 slotters).
It would definetely be a plus for those who can't acquire tech part rares easily.
Hey Para, what do you think if they made the STORM and Judgement like normal rares aka MC5, You get the parts, get it made and its like a normal rare with near arti stats and better chance of slottage? Wont exactly be campocron like MC5...
Originally posted by \\Fényx//
Hey Para, what do you think if they made the STORM and Judgement like normal rares aka MC5, You get the parts, get it made and its like a normal rare with near arti stats and better chance of slottage? Wont exactly be campocron like MC5...
Lol..
The funny thing is, i posted this idea a while back in Brainport, i said
have the boss'es that drop the weapon drop parts instead.
Like not techparts but those package parts and there would be
4-5 parts max to build the weapon. This was an idea i had a
while ago to get around this quality problem. My second solution
was to make these guns salvage and give parts for each salvage
to recreate it at a better quality.
If you think about it, Experimental reflex booster, cybereye4 and
Paw of Tiger..all this stuff has to be created from techparts where
as these weapons Drop whole at higher tech levels and everything.
So it would make sense to make them constructable from parts,
that would solve this whole problem. But then again, people like
these weapons because they don't have time to camp for parts
and so on. It's a quick prize for killing the boss and it's much
better whole to be honest.
Also, that's more work for KK, i much rather them just tweak
the quality's of the weapons when they drop than to recreate
loot the whole system again.
http://neocron.jafc.de/showthread.php?s=&threadid=35754&highlight=salvage
There's the old thread i made.
Why is there no option to say No?
Originally posted by garyu69
Why is there no option to say No?
There are three reasons why:
1) There is no possible reason for saying no, these weapons
arn't uber, their just Jr. versions of their daddy.
2) People are asking for new weapons to be added to the game,
what people have to understand is there are weapons out there,
there is content out there, some of it just needs to be revised/
tweaked and it's ready to go. Currently no one uses these
weapons and this game is becoming a 5 slot swirly festation.
3) People have a bad habbit of voting no and not saying why,
so now that you dissagree for my cause, enlighten us all and
explain why. ( I don't care (i have my rare swirly's! is pretty much
saying NO. yet, none of them said why)
I took the time to make this thread, take the time to explain your
votes, negative and positive. Do you guys really have anything
better to do? You wouldn't be reading this if otherwise :)
thanks
[P]
Well i think you should still have a No, option... but anyway.
I don't really care, i have no rare weapons or anything and i am not desperate to get one.
Surely if you start raising these stats then everyone will start to have some 'Kick Ass!' guns. And soon enough there will be no such thing as rare weapons, they will be common.
Plus, these Mobs are dropping the weapons, why would they be holding a fantastic 85% quality gun, when to fit in with the game they would have used it, and more than likely abused it.
Maybe its because i don't have a Rare weapon or because i am just argumentitive but anyway thats what i think..... if i think :wtf:
Originally posted by garyu69
Surely if you start raising these stats then everyone will start to have some 'Kick Ass!' guns. And soon enough there will be no such thing as rare weapons, they will be common.
I don't think you even know what these weapons are or where
they come from, or anything really. So your basically saying, these
weapons are "RARE" because no body uses them. Yes, that's
what you just said. And guess what? Your absolutely RIGHT!
They are rare weapons because everyone throws them in the
trash, or sells them to YO's. Nobody want's to buy a crap weapon
that aims slowly, shoots poorly. That's why these things are hard
to find, and if you asked for one, i wouldn't be surprised if people
laughed at you in Plaza1.
As for "KICK ASS", hardly. Every capped tank on all servers has
a rare KICK ASS heavy weapon for example. All of them have a
deadly Cursed Soul. Those are really "RARES" ? Yeah right. The
funny part is, more people have those rares and use them than
these weapons combined. So your state ments are kinda off. :rolleyes:
Even if these weapons were 120% artifact, they would never
compete with their big brothers. A judgement day launcher will
never be as good as my Moonstriker, which i was able to artifact
with only 2 slots. See where i'm comming from?
Originally posted by garyu69
Plus, these Mobs are dropping the weapons, why would they be holding a fantastic 85% quality gun, when to fit in with the game they would have used it, and more than likely abused it.
85% is not fantastic, it's barley decent these days. If 85% was so
uberly godly FANTASTIC than why do ALL rares get constructed
with over 100% in all fields? These are the real kick ass weapons.
Alright so the mobs used the weapons (lets roleplay). But,
lets pretend the mobs got them at artifact 120%. So if you put
it that way, 85% sounds pretty fair if the mobs had them at
artifact quality from the beginning. 85 from 120 is quite abused.
Originally posted by garyu69
Maybe its because i don't have a Rare weapon or because i am just argumentitive but anyway thats what i think..... if i think :wtf:
So am I my friend. Hopefully my points make sense to you :)
Respect,
[P]
edit: just wanted to note that i hope people are reading all the
posts in this thread before posting. Alot of stuff was covered by
me and past posts. (like why the condition is so low right now)
heh it's dissapointing to say the least, i remember the first time i met the harbinger and his Judgement launcher massacred us it had like a 500ft aoe or something.
So i think yay when he dies, i get a extremly good rocket launcher then i look and its around 50% wtf!!! if a mutant can aim it perfectly to do you over htf can a "Heavy Combat Specialist" not use it to the same effect. Same as the STORM laser etc..
It's dissapointing to get one nad think cool i got a STORM laser.... only to find out you'd be better using a weapon thats about 20 tls lower o_O
Originally posted by FBI
So am I my friend. Hopefully my points make sense to you :)
Kinda makes more sense to me.
I have only really got weapons from the harbinger bloke.
I suppose they were pretty pants at the time., Is that the kind of weapons you are on about?
My weapons must be pretty pants :( i need some better quality ones.... *Runs off to find Builders*
Originally posted by LTA
So i think yay when he dies, i get a extremly good rocket launcher then i look and its around 50% wtf!!! if a mutant can aim it perfectly to do you over htf can a "Heavy Combat Specialist" not use it to the same effect. Same as the STORM laser etc..
I couldn't have put it any better really, for the "roleplay" sense
anyway. There's no right way to justify the quality, but there are
more positive reasons for it to drop at a better quality than there
are negative.
@KK DEV, maybe just add this to the next test server patch and
lets see how it goes? The thread is 5 stars, 80 people are in
favor of seeing these weapons drop with a increase of quality.
But I think the count would be higher if more people actually had
more faith in KK.
{MD}GeistDamnit
13-08-03, 06:25
they need to make the single drop rares only a little less dmg than their techpart made counterparts. this way pvp wont be a rare only event.
Promethius
13-08-03, 09:27
well its true that the stat %'s absolutely Suck nutz but. I have used a 4 slot chaos queen avalanch on my pure apu...lets jsut say its stronger than it looks. But the rest pfft. I remember when i was a melee / HC tank.
I soloed teh fucker that dropped the judgement day launchers. (died 3 times lol). But after i killed him i got a nice 3 slotter and a 1 slotter. I used teh 3 for about 10 min before i realized it was absolute shit.
Originally posted by Promethius
I soloed teh fucker that dropped the judgement day launchers. (died 3 times lol). But after i killed him i got a nice 3 slotter and a 1 slotter. I used teh 3 for about 10 min before i realized it was absolute shit.
This is what i'm talking about :(
They need to make the weapons viable, increasing the quality
would do alot for such a simple tweak, it's incredible really.
If they decide to do it, first thing i'm doing is getting a storm
lasercannon and a soulblade. But that's a dream :|
Yeah, i've got to agree with FBI, they really do need to increase the quality.
Promethius
13-08-03, 20:56
some wouldn't be too bad like the chaos avalanch if it had higher stats but the rest are just a joke. For one thing the levels that make these weapons viable...can't even kill the mobs to get the item. Honestly wat mid lvl melee tank is gunna go pound the shit outa a soulcluster to get a soulblade =\. (i say mid lvl cuz melee tansk can get like 200+ melee...not to mention the +100 from imps.)
They do need alot of boosting because technically they are rares but they suck.
FireWarrior
13-08-03, 21:27
A very good idea.... personally I would like this done with all weapon drops....
When i played in beta you could go down to the lvl3 sewers in PP, kill Mutant Warriors, Agressors and the like.... and you could get everything from worthless Junk Knives (what happened to them anyways? never see them around anymore) to 2-4 slotted Gatling weapons.... often with cool quality...
After playing for a while and killing a hell of alot of those... the best I find is better og good items with no slots at all.....
Whatever happened to the loot that one could acutally USE instead of being forced to having a 150+ skill Constructor to make a decent one???
Read the top of my post if you don't know what I feel about this poll :D
Originally posted by Promethius
some wouldn't be too bad like the chaos avalanch if it had higher stats but the rest are just a joke.
S.T.O.R.M. LaserCannons are awesome weapons,actually.
They do x4 damage where as all other laser cannons do x3 dmg.
Each burst does slightly less damage on a Storm though, but if
all hit it does more which even at that isn't alot for PVP, great for
mobs at a distance though.
Speaking of lasercannons, they need to increase the magazine
size by 1 because 15 in a chamber divided by 2 rounds per shot
is not an even number, these weapons are in need of tweaks,
they've put it off far too long now and the game has changed
so much in the wait.
Storm laser is actually quite good for sniping, but it's not as good as a decent Plasma Wave, and it only really becomes useful when you get near cap and get high stats with it. The flame avalanche is very powerful actually, my apu has a 3 slot fire beam which only just outdamages his 0 slot flame avalanche, the trouble is his damage% is so low it's impossible to run cast it, and the RoF is pretty bad. But it would certainly be helpful to have good quality drops. Energy Soulblade should have the Long Laserblade 1 model, because it looks much better and more appropriate than the short blade model. These weapons should be good for people who have levelled quite a bit but haven't got rare weapons yet, these should fill that gap but currently they don't. Oh and some rifle and pistols that were similar would be nice too. :D
Im all for this, and I cant see any difficulty in implementing it.
Originally posted by Scikar
Storm laser is actually quite good for sniping, but it's not as good as a decent Plasma Wave, and it only really becomes useful when you get near cap and get high stats with it. The flame avalanche is very powerful actually, my apu has a 3 slot fire beam which only just outdamages his 0 slot flame avalanche, the trouble is his damage% is so low it's impossible to run cast it, and the RoF is pretty bad. But it would certainly be helpful to have good quality drops. Energy Soulblade should have the Long Laserblade 1 model, because it looks much better and more appropriate than the short blade model. These weapons should be good for people who have levelled quite a bit but haven't got rare weapons yet, these should fill that gap but currently they don't.
Oh and some rifle and pistols that were similar would be nice too. :D
Well storm laser is a little better than plasma wave, slightly. But
at artifact, a storm laser is much better..far better.
The flame avalanche, i didn't know it was even good. It's a shame
the stats are so poor, shame really. Perfectly good spell without
the means of making it viable.
energy soulblade is so old. Like i said, these weapons are from
an older state of beta. The game has changed so much, new
models are out, new weapons are out (rares etc), they havn't
had time or reason to go back to these weapons and update them,
tweak them, etc. That's the reason i created this thread, give
these weapons some attention, make a tweak or two.
As for the pistols and rifles, one step at a time.. please, one step
at a time :)
Originally posted by Rade
Im all for this, and I cant see any difficulty in implementing it.
Exactly ;)
Well, the poll seems pretty conclusive at any rate. :D
Over 100 votes for increasing the quality of rare dropped weapons.
that's 9 out of 10 people who agree.
keep em comming everyone :D
QuantumDelta
14-08-03, 17:55
I'm in support of it too. :P
Originally posted by QuantumDelta
I'm in support of it too. :P
how comes? nothing drops pistols so id thought you wouldnt care :p
QuantumDelta
14-08-03, 17:59
Pretty much why I've not commented, I voted yes ages back, but since verbal support will help, and I wont be on the forums anymore after friday I thought I'd chip in before I chip off.
Besides, it's not like they'd be overpower or unbalancing o_O
It's be nice to see some people using 'em. I still have some Flame Queen spells, some JDs, and a storm or two in my inv...
I'd vote yes... but... frankly... i dont give half a damnit... plus im not even supposed to be here, but whatever...
Originally posted by QuantumDelta
and I wont be on the forums anymore after friday I thought I'd chip in before I chip off. eh? why? you quitting? I missed a lot cause the forums suck now, i hardly read them...
ericdraven
14-08-03, 18:08
Wow, redjacket.. where have you been? (In)famous spamm0r. :p
QuantumDelta
14-08-03, 18:08
2 week holiday off to crete :p
me quit?
When I'm bankrupt :p
ericdraven
14-08-03, 18:09
Originally posted by QuantumDelta
2 week holiday off to crete :p
me quit?
When I'm bankrupt :p
I am sure there is an internet cafe.. :p
Originally posted by QuantumDelta
2 week holiday off to crete :p
me quit?
When I'm bankrupt :p understood mr. multisexual...
and eric... i've been locked in a small room by danae... i just recently escaped when she tried to kick my ass for saying some smart ass remark that all women are retarded... sadly, the others who agreed with me didn't... i pray for their souls... err... actually, i didn't like any of them so i hope they BURN! I'll probably see them after i meet my end anyway...
QuantumDelta
14-08-03, 18:15
Nope, I quit computers for two weeks eric ^_^;
god imma have to clear out my inbox before I go -_-
back on topic spamz0rs :p
ONOZ teh RJ is back.... just as i was catching up with his friggin post coult aswell :(
Originally posted by QuantumDelta
...and I wont be on the forums anymore after friday I thought I'd chip in before I chip off.
Besides, it's not like they'd be overpower or unbalancing o_O
It's be nice to see some people using 'em. ..
Ahh, even a pistol welder agrees that the weapons wouldn't
be overpowered or unbalanced, not even close anyway.
But more important, these weapons are like a lost cause as is
currently. If someone never heard of a Judgement Day launcher
and was shown one out of pure interest, he'd see the quality
and say "Yeah Right, i'm no fool" and reject it. These weapons
fill the gap between 'Best storebought weapon' to 'Swirly Rare
weapon". Not only that but some of them are quite good, just
not worth it to use because of it's poor quality.
Before skill specialization existed in beta4, these things were
alright because skills had more influence on the weapon where
as now with specialization and increased weapon stats, you
can't use the weapon properly for it to even be considered viable.
Increase the quality please, because the weapons are outdated
with the current game mechanics and patches :mad:
Well, let's see...
There's 5 drone's with a TL of 90 and higher that can be player built.
There's 4 APU spell's with a TL of 90 or higher that can be player built.
There maybe up to 12 PPU(not sure) spell's with a TL of 88 or higher that can be player built.
There's 2 Heavy Weapons with a TL of 87 or higher that can be player built.
There is one Pistol with a TL of 92 that can be player built.
There is one Rifle with a TL of 88 that can be player built.
There's also the TL 88 DoY Raygun Epic Rifle that comes with 120% stats.
I'm not sure if the DoY Ray Pistol (TL 86) is in the game yet.
It seems that there are alot of weapons with a high TL that can be player built, so having two more weapons, the JDL and the STORM Laser dropping with cool stats isn't going to unbalance the game, at least not that I could forsee...
Sure, it be great to be able to research and construct the JDL and STORM, it may be even more fun if they dropped as "cool" quality and with slots, that would add content to the game with an easy fix(OMG, what a concept).
Oh, and maybe the Y-Rep's could some high TL Plasma pistols and Laser Rifles in "cool" condition w/slots,
Originally posted by Spoon
1 ...so having two more weapons, the JDL and the STORM Laser dropping with cool stats isn't going to unbalance the game, at least not that I could forsee...
2 .... that would add content to the game with an easy fix(OMG, what a concept).
3 Oh, and maybe the Y-Rep's could some high TL Plasma pistols and Laser Rifles in "cool" condition w/slots,
1) yeah it's so obvious, it hurts trying to think about it alot.
2) exctly, as of now they dont exist because no one uses them.
if cursed souls dropped off a mob at 60% in all stats, i can
garentee you no one would use them (just an example)
3) that wouldn't be a bad idea actually, i was hoping they would
in the first place when i first heard about them.
This is the way i see it, extremely easy solutions from easy to hard:
a] Tweak a couple variables to increase the stat qualities on the drops :)
b] Make these weapons researchable...it wouldn't hurt, they're
not even real rares compared to swirly rares...
c] Introduce techparts to build them (or some kind of part system,
where the mob drops unique parts that are used to rebuild the
weapon..but only that specific mob drops them)
I wouldn't mind any of the above because anything is better than
nothing at all :cool:
FBI how come when you write your writing doesnt strech right the way across the screen? i've always wondered that.
Originally posted by Ren
FBI how come when you write your writing doesnt strech right the way across the screen? i've always wondered that.
Call me crazy, but I like having my text formated with a certain
width on my monitor. It's easier to read for me on my rig because
i have a large resolution, where 5 lines in here would be one line
on my monitor. I have trouble reading lines left to right, i read
diagonally usually.
fair banter...
was just wondering :)
shodanjr_gr
16-08-03, 01:20
Originally posted by QuantumDelta
2 week holiday off to crete :p
me quit?
When I'm bankrupt :p
Coming to Crete QD? Passing at all from Athens??? I could arrange your plane crashing :-)
BTW I live in da Greece.
Can't you guys PrivateMessage each other with Off Topic stuff?
Why spam on my important thread and clutter it?
Bastages.
Originally posted by FBI
Bastages.
omg... stop using that word :p plus isnt that flaming? :lol:
cmon guys, up the power of the STORM lasers and judgement day's... the flameavalanche is one of the coolest looking spells but it sux arse, the stormlasers would give tanks hardly anything new, only real use for it is for pvm... O_o plus for sniping back at the odd unbuffed sniper if you have a scope on it :|
Promethius
18-08-03, 11:40
Lmao i think the poll speaks for itself
Originally posted by \\Fényx//
omg... stop using that word :p plus isnt that flaming? :lol:
bastages isn't a word :p
Thanks everyone who voted and expressed their opinions.
http://neocron.jafc.de/showthread.php?s=&threadid=74142
Thanks to KK as well for listening to us :)
FBI
Originally posted by FBI
Thanks everyone who voted and expressed their opinions.
http://neocron.jafc.de/showthread.php?s=&threadid=74142
Thanks to KK as well for listening to us :)
FBI
ya ^^ Im trying to get hold of a stormlaser on the test server and compare it to my TT laser. Hell if the storm lasers say 85% allround thats bloody brilliant compared to the 40% allround u usually get o_O
Originally posted by \\Fényx//
ya ^^ Im trying to get hold of a stormlaser on the test server and compare it to my TT laser. Hell if the storm lasers say 85% allround thats bloody brilliant compared to the 40% allround u usually get o_O
yeah, i'm going on the test server to try these things out and make
sure everything is what it should be.
I'll let this thread die now, nobody post anymore please. :angel:
FBI
Originally posted by FBI
yeah, i'm going on the test server to try these things out and make
sure everything is what it should be.
I'll let this thread die now, nobody post anymore please. :angel:
FBI
one last post ^^
If your on test server now DL -=Delta=-
Im at gaya now trying to get some STORM lasers to see what their like now
Sorry for the double post and all... wouldnt let me edit o_O
However just got a few Storm cannons on the test server and theyr looking good :)
Quality is ''Cool'' and mostly around the 90% mark :)
with ultima and 4 or 5 slots you could probably get one to artifact :cool:
Originally posted by \\Fényx//
However just got a few Storm cannons on the test server and theyr looking good :)
Quality is ''Cool'' and mostly around the 90% mark :)
with ultima and 4 or 5 slots you could probably get one to artifact :cool:
Ohhhh, hell YESSSS \o/
thx, Fenyx..
thx, KK....
thx, Paradox for getting them to take action....
Originally posted by \\Fényx//
Sorry for the double post and all... wouldnt let me edit o_O
However just got a few Storm cannons on the test server and theyr looking good :)
Quality is ''Cool'' and mostly around the 90% mark :)
with ultima and 4 or 5 slots you could probably get one to artifact :cool:
Awesome..just awesome!
I told KK that 15% increase would be just right, looks like they
listen very good. I wish i knew who exactly got this change into
the patch, I suspect Lupus had something to do with it? :)
Originally posted by Spoon
Ohhhh, hell YESSSS \o/
thx, Fenyx..
thx, KK....
thx, Paradox for getting them to take action....
Welcome, someone had to do it :)
Now lets allow this thread to fade away :angel:
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