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Ok whats the deal here.....
I build 50 NCPD tride Fusions.
Guys say Take drugs, so I take the flash brothers, and the others that increase Dex and Str (5 or 6 in total) And produce.....
First 20 come out and a couple of 1 slotters even a couple of 2 slotters and the rest standard. by this time drugs are puttimg me so hi.
Wait for sight to return and keep constructng, no boosts and no drugs.....
So Know I am pulling slotts 2 out of every 3 ......
I get 2 - 3 slotters and plenty of 2 slotters.
So now is being boosted and the drugs really worth it. Do they help, I went from about 20% Slotters with drugs to about 65% slotters withour drugs.....
The other thing is the stats on the guns. i am not getting anything worth writing home abour....mostly 85% - 100%
What do you need to increase this.
I also did a batch the other day of 30 at an OP (+75% bonus). with drugs and psi booster 3, then I got pretty crap slottage.
Anyone offer some advice here
they nerfed slottage to force all to use slot enhancers.
i know this can be confirmed.
ericdraven
11-08-03, 13:44
Every item has a quality cap (starting from 94% for low TL weapons down to 80% for very high TLs).
That drugs influence the chance of slots is just a stupid rumor IMHO. We even got an OFFICIAL STATEMENT that the chances for slots is ONLY based on the final quality of the item.
Still people drug up to "increase the chance".. well, if it makes 'em happy.. :lol:
(btw - i built 750 holy shelter yesterday and got ONE five slotter - so don't consider yourself as unlucky ;) )
Strength drugs? Psi booster 3? 75% bonus from an OP? uhhh.....
O_o.....
construction is affected by INT DEX and CST
no STR
wheres that skill post thingie?
btw, i have notices slots are down a bit.
IMHO,
Seems to me is slots in neocron is a lot like those slot machines you get in casinos. They all have a certain percentage chance of paying out, in the terms of neocron, slots. So i find that if i have about an hour of really shit shot luck, i will soon get a massive amount of slots. Like a 5 slotted item. So, the only real way to increase slot chance is to:
a) Get a slot enhancer
b) Wait for the chance to come in which the server grants you a nice amount of slots...
This is my theory anyway... Its my way for coping with when i get 0/1 slots.
Depending on your level of construction, int and dex drugs can increase the quality of items you produce if you can't cap them naturally.
This indirectly can increase you chances of slot, but its only a tiny difference, as construction skill itself is the biggest factor.
But i would definitely -DEFINITELY- agree that the slot ratio has been changed... significantly.
Anyone on pluto that's had something made by my CST would probably notice he's fricken uber atm, cant do no wrong, may my newb spy 5 tangent pulse lasers and got 4 4 4 4 5 slots, have witnesses to that, made Parad0x a full set of 4 and 5 slot spells for his tank (not high TL but still) Made a 4 slot holy heal and holy shelter fo uh, danoiser? i think.. and also made a 5 slot commando rifle on the first try :) My first rare was a named 5 slot executioner then 3 slot artifact PE and 3 slot near artifact PE
He is only base TL 130, always get a cst 3 if its high TL, for rares i use a factory but only get about +20 from that as its allied faction bonus i get.
WHAT! FENYX! Ugh that makes me so mad...
Granted most is only low TL stuff, but the rares ive made have all been good other than a 1 slot ROG but had pretty nice stats for JediMasta plus the chars still a fair way off capping, he's only /46 droner.
PsycheBlade
11-08-03, 15:10
What happens to be your spy's INT and DEX Fenyx?
I usually build weapons untill I get a certain amount of slots
In a batch of 10 mid TL weapons I get at least 1 3slotter
With my spy, for some reason say on the tl3 heal the max slots I've ever gotten was 2, on rare occasions, but while making heal sanctums, or any other slightly higher TL item, I would get 3 slotters fairly easily.
i laugh at your 2 slot tl3 heal
i got a 5 slotter that can outheal 4 stacks of poison from a sandviper on my spy ph34r!
Whiety Bulger
11-08-03, 15:16
At least it's not like Ultima Online where you would have to east and walk around in a certain way to get good wepons and armor.
Voodoochicken
11-08-03, 15:23
If you've maxed damage on a heal spell, are slots of any real use? (assuming RoF and range aren't important to you).
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[edit] sorry. this should have been separated a bit more.. ie.. top is about sub-skills causing damage to be maxed, below is when csting weapons that I don't cap stats on.[/end edit]
My DEX and INT are around 95.. If I take drugs to cst, I'm lucky to get an extra 1% on the weapon stats (even with +9 to DEX from drugs)..
So.. not sure it's worth drugging for cst, but I feel happier researching if my INT is at least 100.
Built 20 Blacksuns, had a 4 Slot, i think two 3 Slot, some with 2 Slots and many with 1/0.
Then i built 50 Blessed Deflectors, only got 0/1 Slots.
Slots are totally fucked.
ericdraven
11-08-03, 15:36
Originally posted by Voodoochicken
If you've maxed damage on a heal spell, are slots of any real use? (assuming RoF and range aren't important to you).
My DEX and INT are around 95.. If I take drugs to cst, I'm lucky to get an extra 1% on the weapon stats (even with +9 to DEX from drugs)..
So.. not sure it's worth drugging for cst, but I feel happier researching if my INT is at least 100.
As long as you are not able to CAP the quality OF COURSE drugs are useful. But as soon as you reach the cap they do not have any use anymore.
Originally posted by PsycheBlade
What happens to be your spy's INT and DEX Fenyx?
I usually build weapons untill I get a certain amount of slots
In a batch of 10 mid TL weapons I get at least 1 3slotter
With my spy, for some reason say on the tl3 heal the max slots I've ever gotten was 2, on rare occasions, but while making heal sanctums, or any other slightly higher TL item, I would get 3 slotters fairly easily.
My spy's at 110 DEX with imps and 89 INT, STR 14 and CON 9 and PSI 1 =) :lol: :lol:
Originally posted by \\Fényx//
My spy's at 110 DEX with imps and 89 INT, STR 14 and CON 9 and PSI 1 =) :lol: :lol:
And I thought mine was a combat gimp.... :eek:
ericdraven
11-08-03, 15:40
Originally posted by \\Fényx//
My spy's at 110 DEX with imps and 89 INT, STR 14 and CON 9 and PSI 1 =) :lol: :lol:
o_O
A constructor with STR 14?! STR was the first what i capped on my constructor.. :p
Darth Slayer
11-08-03, 15:54
I agree with Eric there Str was also first thing I capped as a Spy.
Now I find that the lower the Tech lvl the worst I am for slots the higher tl's and rares I have better slot chances I have'nt built a rare yet with less than 2 slots.
My skills currently are Int 110 cst 140 Dex 122
My cst goes upto 175 to 180 at Same faction Factory and 200 with a lvl3 boost.
I lomed all of mine, i was arseing about with a melee spy, then went droner to put it into transport, so lomed a shit load of melee, then ploughed it all into fucking resist force :rolleyes: :( so had to lom some more, but i still think that the highest my str has been is about 23
Originally posted by Darth Slayer
I agree with Eric there Str was also first thing I capped as a Spy.
Now I find that the lower the Tech lvl the worst I am for slots the higher tl's and rares I have better slot chances I have'nt built a rare yet with less than 2 slots.
My skills currently are Int 110 cst 140 Dex 122
My cst goes upto 175 to 180 at Same faction Factory and 200 with a lvl3 boost.
Man i can do with some of that. We had a recognised constructor do a malediction for us, gave her the Drugs (The Flash Brothers) and boosted her.....gues what... you can count the slots with out even using any fingires (hehe)
So if slottage has been nerfed to force the use of slot enhancers, are slot enchancer parts dropping more frequently? As far as I can tell this is a very definite no.
(and now I understand why people want the lowest slot enhancer to be store bought . . .)
ericdraven
11-08-03, 16:53
Originally posted by Xypher
So if slottage has been nerfed to force the use of slot enhancers, are slot enchancer parts dropping more frequently? As far as I can tell this is a very definite no.
(and now I understand why people want the lowest slot enhancer to be store bought . . .)
They drop like any other rare parts.
But because there are more than 50 different rares now it's quite difficult to get a complete set.
And even if you get it... the best Slotenhancer gives you +3 slots.. still not enough if you NEED a five slotter.. yes, you can be lucky and get it, but also you can be unlucky (and that's probably more likely, hehe) and get.. 3 slots.
Darth Slayer
11-08-03, 19:17
Also bear in mind slot enhancers do not work on rares. (So I've been told )
hmm my spy has 103 int 103 dex and 120 cst with a 150 tool of course....
made 10 holy fire halo go 6 0 slot 2x1 slot 1x2 slot and the last spell was a 4 slot :)
Rares are very easy for slot for me, the worst one i have done is a 1 slot paw of tiger and that had 120% dmg 120% range 117 Freq and 118 handling :)
I quality cap any storebought item which i am quite happy with....
The only thing I;d like to know is an old question.... is there any difference between a Yo's and Crytons 150 CST tool ????
Darth Slayer
11-08-03, 23:32
Originally posted by Shakari
The only thing I;d like to know is an old question.... is there any difference between a Yo's and Crytons 150 CST tool ????
No.
Cool thnx Darth Slayer :)
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