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mr murb
05-08-03, 05:43
A chart with the populations of 19 MMOG’s but no Neocron.

Sigh.

http://games.slashdot.org/games/03/08/04/2222229.shtml?tid=127&tid=186&tid=206&tid=209

http://pw1.netcom.com/~sirbruce/Subscriptions.html

KidWithStick
05-08-03, 05:51
maybe because...it didnt sell enough?

Mattimeo
05-08-03, 07:27
well. if you look at the server numbers, not to be down on the game, but I don't think it's meeting the required 10,000 to get on the list.

Mantus
05-08-03, 07:35
I think the only games there that deserve those numbers are Dark Age of Camelot and Planet Side. Numbers…unfortunately…don’t mean quality. Neocron should be up there damn it! Hope it will get more popular.

Forget My Name
05-08-03, 07:38
Didnt Ultima online come out way before 1997?

Psychoninja
05-08-03, 07:41
lol @ PlanetSide :angel:

phunqe
05-08-03, 10:30
I actually feel bad for Neocron since it deserves more players.
I completely and utterly blame CDV for this. Let's hope MJS finds a good publisher for DoY :)

Sinead O'Connor
05-08-03, 11:59
...because NC is the joke of the gaming world.

i wonder why????

Helen Angilley
05-08-03, 12:03
Originally posted by Sinead O'Connor
...because NC is the joke of the gaming world.

i wonder why????

Because of people like you who stick around despite complaining about the game at every chance they get.

Judge
05-08-03, 12:04
Originally posted by phunqe
I actually feel bad for Neocron since it deserves more players.
I completely and utterly blame CDV for this. Let's hope MJS finds a good publisher for DoY :)

Too damn right. Alot of people have gone to other MMOs saying how neocron sucks, then within a few months/weeks they have come crawling back to us. The only reason that we aren't getting new players is because the majority of the gaming community doesn't actually realse that neocron exists due to CDV being absolute dogshite.

Dade Murphey
05-08-03, 12:05
Originally posted by Sinead O'Connor
...because NC is the joke of the gaming world.

i wonder why????

I still can't figure out why people who complain or say things like this stick around...if you're not happy, leave.

MortuusLupus
05-08-03, 12:07
The game was never advertised, so the only people who really know about it are those who were in beta, and those who hearf about it from friends in beta. Word of mouth is pretty much all this game's gotten, and the mouth has a difficult time spreading words across two continents (three if you count Australia).


A new publisher with more game experience than crappy polygonal pornos (http://www.cdv.de/index.php?id=1019819441&g=3_games_vorschauprodukt&sid=en010300&l=e) would bring new life to Neocron.

DangerousDaze
05-08-03, 12:17
Originally posted by Sinead O'Connor
...because NC is the joke of the gaming world.

i wonder why???? Do you still play?

DD

Trip
05-08-03, 12:27
The release of Neocron was such a fragile thing. so fragile that if a man was to just whisper it then it would vanish. So let us sit here and whisper.

alteration of a quote from Gladiator :D

but lolololol at Anarchy online!
And look at SWG CLIMB!
but of course as the thong/shirt/carebear/tanktop says
NC>SWG

Helen Angilley
05-08-03, 12:30
Originally posted by DangerousDaze
Do you still play?

DD

Of course he does.

He's too afraid of being laughed at and having fun made of him when he goes to another MMORPG, only to come crawling back begging for forgiveness.

:rolleyes:

DangerousDaze
05-08-03, 12:59
Originally posted by Helen Angilley
Of course he does.

He's too afraid of being laughed at and having fun made of him when he goes to another MMORPG, only to come crawling back begging for forgiveness.

:rolleyes: Yeah, I just noticed a post in another thread stating that he does still play.

[ edited for violation of the forum rules - flaming ]

DD

Lord Mansion
05-08-03, 13:56
Originally posted by Dade Murphey
I still can't figure out why people who complain or say things like this stick around...if you're not happy, leave.

Alot of people are unhappy but stick around because they believe it might get better in the near future.

Don't tell me you do not understand why people are unhappy?

Lord Mansion
05-08-03, 13:58
Originally posted by Helen Angilley
Of course he does.

He's too afraid of being laughed at and having fun made of him when he goes to another MMORPG, only to come crawling back begging for forgiveness.

:rolleyes:

Anyone is free to leave and come back at a later stage if they want.

Begging?
Forgiveness for what?

I hope you are joking.

Lord Mansion
05-08-03, 13:59
Some people make it sound like being able to play Neocron is a privilege.

Well it is not, any idiot who can afford the subscription fee can join.

\\Fényx//
05-08-03, 14:10
d00d just hit the edit button in future rofl, power posting madness :lol:

GT_Rince
05-08-03, 14:15
Originally posted by Helen Angilley
Because of people like you who stick around despite complaining about the game at every chance they get.

I still wonder about this myself. If people don't enjoy the game so much, why do they stay? Instead, they sit about and do nothing other than bitch and whine. I have never seen any of these people say a good thing about the game - just negatives. :confused:


Enlighten us...


Oh, and please don't use "I'm waiting for DoY" as an excuse. If you hated the game that much, you would come back after DoY has been released.

EDIT--------

And the same goes for "We hope it will get better in the future"...
What ? I like the game as it is - sure, there are some things that need fixing, but I'm not here because I hope it's gonna get better. If the game doesn't suit you now, piss off for a while and come back later.
I personally believe these people DO like the game but have said so many bad things in the past, they don't wanna go back on what they have already said - 'cos that would make them look even more stupid than they do already. :rolleyes:

Crest
05-08-03, 14:22
Next time you walk into a game shop, have a look on the shleves for neocron, and you may even find the last copy.

I have friends who have gone through 5 shops and still not found the game, so try downloading it for a couple of hours .... unless you use a ISDN 64k or modem then you cant play ...... No game in shops, cant download oh well lets move on.

With DOY out it should flood the shops, more morey for TT and more devs = more cool things, more people talking more people more money = more cools, more peeps, more D's = mct , mp, md = m m m mmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Lord Mansion
05-08-03, 14:46
Originally posted by GT_Rince
I still wonder about this myself. If people don't enjoy the game so much, why do they stay? Instead, they sit about and do nothing other than bitch and whine. I have never seen any of these people say a good thing about the game - just negatives. :confused:


If the people who enjoy the game have anything positive to say, please feel free to do so. The same goes for people with negative feelings towards Neocron - this isn't Iran, you are ALLOWED to express your opinion whether its positive or negative.

Hidden Godoffej
05-08-03, 14:52
If the people who enjoy the game have anything positive to say, please feel free to do so. The same goes for people with negative feelings towards Neocron - this isn't Iran, you are ALLOWED to express your opinion whether its positive or negative.

It's a pride thing. The demographic for these games (male, age 14-24) don't like to be proven wrong, or be viewed as hypocrites.

KimmyG
05-08-03, 14:57
HHAHAHHA Anarchy sucks balls

Anyway No Neocron is cause EA or any other big publisher was not used, email the guy who does that graph and ask about neocron and his reply will be WTF is that, and that is a crying shame and the reason why this Neocron is not number 2 after everquest

sparrowtm
05-08-03, 15:02
Originally posted by KimmyG
HHAHAHHA Anarchy sucks balls

Anyone No Neo is cause no EA or other big pub email the guy who does that and ask about neocron and his reply will be WTF is that and that is a crying shame and the reason why this game is not number 2 under everquest

I read this sentence three times ... and still do not understand it. :confused:

QuantumDelta
05-08-03, 15:04
dude.......OLD NEWS

Ren
05-08-03, 15:05
i went it thru it 5 times... not a thing

KimmyG
05-08-03, 15:05
Originally posted by sparrowtm
I read this sentence three times ... and still do not understand it. :confused:

You making fun of my lack of mental thinking ability?

Lord Mansion
05-08-03, 15:05
Originally posted by sparrowtm
I read this sentence three times ... and still do not understand it. :confused:

Its the new version of the English language.

sparrowtm
05-08-03, 15:06
Originally posted by KimmyG
You making fun of my lack of mental thinking ability?

Only if you wished so :p

GT_Rince
05-08-03, 15:06
Originally posted by Lord Mansion
If the people who enjoy the game have anything positive to say, please feel free to do so. The same goes for people with negative feelings towards Neocron - this isn't Iran, you are ALLOWED to express your opinion whether its positive or negative.

Hmmm - for the terminally stupid :p who don't read posts, I will make it more straight forward...

I never said you can't post what you want here, I said "If people don't enjoy the game so much, why do they stay?"

:rolleyes:

GT_Rince
05-08-03, 15:08
Originally posted by KimmyG

Anyway No Neocron is cause EA or any other big publisher was not used, email the guy who does that graph and ask about neocron and his reply will be WTF is that, and that is a crying shame and the reason why this Neocron is not number 2 after everquest

Nope, sorry - didn't get it either :(

Edit---------

Sorry, double post.

Forget My Name
05-08-03, 15:09
Hey Rince...

http://www.sw-kleinanzeigen.de/priv/Forum/twice.jpg

Edit button works wonders :)

GT_Rince
05-08-03, 15:13
Originally posted by Forget My Name
Hey Rince...

http://www.sw-kleinanzeigen.de/priv/Forum/twice.jpg

Edit button works wonders :)

No shit Sherlock - That's why I added the edit underneath it :)

Forget My Name
05-08-03, 15:15
After the fact... before it was edited :)

Anyway, next time, go pics, its the rave....

http://www.sw-kleinanzeigen.de/priv/Forum/sherlock.jpg

Lord Mansion
05-08-03, 15:15
Originally posted by GT_Rince
Hmmm - for the terminally stupid :p who don't read posts, I will make it more straight forward...

I never said you can't post what you want here, I said "If people don't enjoy the game so much, why do they stay?"

:rolleyes:

I got the impression from your message(s) that you make fun of people who post their negative thoughts about Neocron. In other words: you rather have them shut up and keep their opinion to themselves because it conflicts with your opinion.

Also, there is no need for simplistic responses like yours.

QuantumDelta
05-08-03, 15:18
...When newbies attack? O.o

\\Fényx//
05-08-03, 15:19
FMN for the love of crahns pants can you cut it with those fucking pics... Alizom got banned for his antics with the info minister pics... yet on more than one occasion youve got away with twice the shit i would would get insta banned for...


O_o

not meant as a flame, just meant as a ''please stop'' kinda post.

Lord Mansion
05-08-03, 15:20
In addition, do you understand that this game needs more players to survive? I have seen many people leave after only 1 or 2 month(s) since they got bored so quickly.

Will you still have fun when you are the only "happy" player left in Neocron? Instead of ignoring the obvious, why not try to make the game better?

QuantumDelta
05-08-03, 15:21
I think FMN Just found one of those image repository webbies and is working his way through the whole site :p



oi n00blet, edit button = you can add "Additional notes" to your original point addressing that subject.

Thank you and good night.

Generally? Lay off Rince, he has a right to be pissed off with a lot of the assholes around here who simply come here to bitch about the game.
You haven't been around very long so you have absolutely no clue what it was like much before paying forums, all the idiots who weren't even paying, yet trolling and generally being abusive assholes.

It's not as bad now, but still.
Why the hell do people pay to play something if they don't enjoy it?
It's like... the pinnacle of stupidity o_O

Forget My Name
05-08-03, 15:22
Not really, since he just spammed those like a fool.

I am putting pics down that say teh exact same thing I would have said anyway. Look at all of them, they all fit the thread they are in. And most of them have comments of course that fit the thread, so I am nto spamming or making a fool of anyone.

Unless its fucking Drom sex, Niddhog, Thongs, bad english ( leet speech ) humor is dead around here.

Oh yeah, sorry for all you 56k users out there with my pics. Upgrade.

EDIT - No Mansion. You are 100% correct. You don't offend people and are just sating your opinion. As long as KK doesn't find you offensive ( like they did me once ) fuck everyone else. That lame excuse " go play another game" is such horseshit. How many times do people complain about a football or soccer star who doesn't preform well? " That moron missed the shot, damned Lakers suck!" You don't see people telling them to move into another sport.

Deal guys. Stop pushing people away, its bad enough some people are not agreeing with this game, but atleast they still play, meaning, they enjoy this game somewhat. Don't push them over the edge.

Original monk
05-08-03, 15:24
Originally posted by Hidden Godoffej
It's a pride thing. The demographic for these games (male, age 14-24) don't like to be proven wrong, or be viewed as hypocrites.

Im glad there are still people around with common sence, i 100% agree with youre statement hidden :)

GT_Rince
05-08-03, 15:24
Originally posted by Lord Mansion
I got the impression from your message(s) that you make fun of people who post their negative thoughts about Neocron. In other words: you rather have them shut up and keep their opinion to themselves because it conflicts with your opinion.

Also, there is no need for simplistic responses like yours.

No, I wouldn't rather have them shut up - I would rather they piss off from the game seeing as they dislike it so much. Same question as I originally posted... Different wording so it can't be misunderstood.

Why stay and pay to be in a game you don't like ? These people that do nothing but bitch and moan all the time, leave NC and go play AO or PS. Hell, I wouldn't play a game if I hated so much.

Everyone has negative things to say, (I know I do) but I adjust to these and carry on. The game is as enjoyable now as it ever was - more so recently :)

\\Fényx//
05-08-03, 15:29
rarw !

*smashes everyone on the head with his BanStick so they cant argue and flame anymore*

Closed

N.








:D

Lord Mansion
05-08-03, 15:29
Originally posted by GT_Rince
N
Why stay and pay to be in a game you don't like ? These people that do nothing but bitch and moan all the time, leave NC and go play AO or PS. Hell, I wouldn't play a game if I hated so much.


I do agree that people who only complain about the game and are not willing to help make it better should probably leave.

But remember, that there are ALOT of people who left the game because of several missing elements that make customers happy and retain them. The obvious lack of these should be addressed before its too late.

Let me ask you this: Do you want people who have VALID complaints, which are being ignored by KK, leave?

QuantumDelta
05-08-03, 15:32
They're not really ignored though.

If anything is valid and universally shared, KK will deal with it.
However if one little person out of even 2000 complains, they're not going to be made a priority when there are things that are being Globally brought up as issues.

Do you understand that KK will always prioritise, even if in the long run it is not the best thing for the game, things that are universally demanded by the customers?

The company DOES do a good job at listening to us when we a) post in the right place b) post enmass c) make a well structured and good point that can be implemented or fixed at this time.

Lord Mansion
05-08-03, 15:35
Originally posted by \\Fényx//
rarw !

*smashes everyone on the head with his BanStick so they cant argue and flame anymore*

Closed

N.
:D

\\Fényx//,

If KK does not appreciate discussions about Neocron they might as well close the entire forum down.

Flame: "An insulting criticism or remark meant to incite anger, as on a computer network. " I have seen no such instances in this thread, unless everyone around here are a bunch of
oversensitive individuals.

Lord Mansion
05-08-03, 15:39
Originally posted by QuantumDelta

The company DOES do a good job at listening to us when we a) post in the right place b) post enmass c) make a well structured and good point that can be implemented or fixed at this time.

Have we not all complained about the lack of content in this game? New items can be classified as "content", but I was hoping for something constructive like a continuing and dynamic storyline.

\\Fényx//
05-08-03, 15:43
mansion... stop teh double posts... its called power posting... bannable offence, just hit the edit button on your previous message... hell you managed 3 in a row earlier :wtf:

Lord Mansion
05-08-03, 15:49
Originally posted by \\Fényx//
mansion... stop teh double posts... its called power posting... bannable offence, just hit the edit button on your previous message... hell you managed 3 in a row earlier :wtf:

I am NOT going to put everything in 1 message as that would kill the relevance of individual comments. Also, you have added nothing to this thread besides complaints about users posting styles.

Please note that powerposting is an offense that could get you banned, \\Fényx//.

;-)

\\Fényx//
05-08-03, 15:53
im not power posting, im atleast letting 1 person to reply inbetween them

I also have partially relevant content to my posts unlike some people in these forums :p

keep it up LM, im catching up with arc's post count pretty sharpish here :D

GT_Rince
05-08-03, 15:54
Originally posted by Lord Mansion
Let me ask you this: Do you want people who have VALID complaints, which are being ignored by KK, leave?

Not at all - a valid complaint should be addressed and I do think that KK need to look at that kind very quickly. I don't, however, believe that comments that give no information such as "NC Sux !" is constructive or helpful (btw, that was an example). If people want to be taken seriously, then they need to act in a more mature way. :)

PsycheBlade
05-08-03, 15:55
Originally posted by Lord Mansion
But remember, that there are ALOT of people who left the game because of several missing elements that make customers happy and retain them. You better define "elements that make customers happy and retain them"
Thats fairly broad and if KK were to see it, could interpret it in highly different ways. (eg: Timesinks, fluff...)

Also, Mansion, it might be a good idea to learn how to use the vB code instead of hitting the quote button above a person's post everytime.

Anyway BACK ON TOPIC it seems that too many people have selfish wants from this game - not enough are looking at the whole of situations and are complaining too much about the wrong things.

Edit : What Rince just said sums up the situation on the boards fairly well

Nidhogg
05-08-03, 15:56
Originally posted by Lord Mansion
I am NOT going to put everything in 1 message as that would kill the relevance of individual comments.I respectfully suggest that you re-evaluate. The forum rules state:
Spamming, Power posting & Advertising are not permitted.Please collate your comments into a single post and use the edit facility if you wish to make any alterations later. Thanks.

N

QuantumDelta
05-08-03, 15:58
Originally posted by Lord Mansion
Have we not all complained about the lack of content in this game? New items can be classified as "content", but I was hoping for something constructive like a continuing and dynamic storyline.
Talk to Callash.
There is a storyline, just because it doesn't walk up and slap you in the face doesn't mean that people who are more perseptive don't see it going on.

There are also small mini-events going on fairly regularly, Callash wants to continually add content and it's happening.

Sorry you're too ignorant to see it.
Also, there are plenty of player run storylines going on as well.

Lord Mansion
05-08-03, 15:58
Originally posted by Nidhogg
I respectfully suggest that you re-evaluate. The forum rules state:Please collate your comments into a single post and use the edit facility if you wish to make any alterations later. Thanks.

N

Okay I won't bother participating with those kind of rules.

Thank you for the warning, Sir.

\\Fényx//
05-08-03, 16:00
Originally posted by Nidhogg
I respectfully suggest that you re-evaluate. The forum rules state:Please collate your comments into a single post and use the edit facility if you wish to make any alterations later. Thanks.

N

ownd :lol:

GT_Rince
05-08-03, 16:00
Originally posted by Lord Mansion
Okay I won't bother participating with those kind of rules.

Thank you for the warning, Sir.

/Picks up dummy and hands it back to LM

Dude, grow up please :rolleyes:

\\Fényx//
05-08-03, 16:03
Originally posted by Lord Mansion
Okay I won't bother participating with those kind of rules.

Thank you for the warning, Sir.


*wipes a small tear from his eye*

hey he reminds me of myself at times... pre BanStickSlapping™ ofcourse tho :p

Lord Mansion
05-08-03, 16:04
Originally posted by GT_Rince
/Picks up dummy and hands it back to LM

Dude, grow up please :rolleyes:

Rince,

Discussions are meant to have some speed in them, with those kind of rules its no fun.

Actually, this forum is moderated like the users are a bunch of children who need the protection because they might get their feelings hurt.

EDIT: People DON'T read long posts - so sticking everything into one message would get no attention.

GT_Rince
05-08-03, 16:05
The rules are there to be adhered to - you agreed to them when you signed up.

Deal with it and follow them, or don't - it's a very simple choice :)

QuantumDelta
05-08-03, 16:05
Originally posted by Lord Mansion
Rince,

Discussions are meant to have some speed in them, with those kind of rules its no fun.

Actually, this forum is moderated like the users are a bunch of children who need the protection because they might get their feelings hurt. http://forums.shatteredstar.com/graemlins/shake.gif

hinch
05-08-03, 16:07
lm does have a point actually for praticality if comments are totally unrelated then multiple posts make more sence and should be accepted as a moderator of boards many many times larger (www.boards.ie) than this the rules here do need to "revisions" to bring them more into the user friendly role as they should be.

however 4 or 5 posts back to back is perhaps a little excessive as can understand nid`s comments. Occationally when replying to long posts i have breached the 15000 char posting limit and had to double post in fact does this in its self class as a power post as the javascript char counter does include all vbb tags as well so [i] etc is 3 letters it also counts spaces as a char. so in reality your 15000 is more like 8000 in large replys and its so easy to break it.

the most obvious immediate solution would be to increase post char limits to 25000 ofc being only a member here my experience with vbb and effeciently running large scale vbb`s is obselete however suggestions still stand actioned on or not.

---

ofc back on topic those games have all either been around ALOT longer than nc or have had major marketing or a pre captured user base (read swg)

Lord Mansion
05-08-03, 16:08
Okay I have to agree, I am taking this too serious.

Lets all talk in the nerd language and use many icons and graphics to enhance the boring textual information being submitted to this forum.

:p

Archeus
05-08-03, 16:08
Originally posted by QuantumDelta
Talk to Callash.
There is a storyline, just because it doesn't walk up and slap you in the face doesn't mean that people who are more perseptive don't see it going on.

Indeed, for example the raids of CA on FA. Although it may seem independant, it appears to be running with the storyline (and I guess there is some mental button pushing going on from KK in the background).

TH (and from a guess CA) roleplay on Pluto quite well. Even the Combat element of TH seem to fall into the roles.

Neocronicle also gives hints of the progressing storyline. I still remember finding a cute looking bot in K_16 (the widowmaker) and then checking neocronicle for more information on them... after recovering my corpse. -_-


Originally posted by hinch
as a moderator of boards many many times larger (www.boards.ie)

ooh another kittencaker!! ^^

\\Fényx//
05-08-03, 16:09
Originally posted by Lord Mansion
Rince,

Discussions are meant to have some speed in them, with those kind of rules its no fun.

Actually, this forum is moderated like the users are a bunch of children who need the protection because they might get their feelings hurt.

EDIT: People DON'T read long posts - so sticking everything into one message would get no attention.

This forums moderated by people who know that nhalf the postes on this forum, included me, can be complete fucktards who flame/spam/insult and abuse everything and everyone possible the second that we realise the servers are down or theres no mods logged on atm :D

Hidden Godoffej
05-08-03, 16:09
QD said it all. The forum rule exist to keep the law-abiding citizens honest, and keep the trolls quiet. Cripes. You wouldn't say that jaywalking being a crime impedes your right to cross a street quickly, would you, LM?

QuantumDelta
05-08-03, 16:09
heh...I've managed to break 25000 chars.............. LOL

\\Fényx//
05-08-03, 16:11
Originally posted by QuantumDelta
heh...I've managed to break 25000 chars.............. LOL

didnt you liek try posting a whole fucking book in one post once ? O_o

QuantumDelta
05-08-03, 16:12
heh, I think I tried to reply to about four peoples posts (all having long posts), quoted, disected and chewed, then spat their comments out :P


The Widowmaker eh?
Looks like I gotta go check me out some bot o.O

Lord Mansion
05-08-03, 16:12
Originally posted by Hidden Godoffej
QD said it all. The forum rule exist to keep the law-abiding citizens honest, and keep the trolls quiet. Cripes. You wouldn't say that jaywalking being a crime impedes your right to cross a street quickly, would you, LM?

I find that analogy to be inappropriate!

:D :D :D

Eledhbrant
05-08-03, 16:17
Well at least the angry posts seem to be dissipating, i just read the whole thread (see LM people DO read long posts) :D



The current rules seem fine anyway, just post sensibly.

Lord Mansion
05-08-03, 16:23
Originally posted by Eledhbrant
Well at least the angry posts seem to be dissipating, i just read the whole thread (see LM people DO read long posts) :D


Surely, you have read articles where scientists confirm that messages with alot of information are skipped by the average human being or at least only read partially due to the lack of attention span?

IronMonkey
05-08-03, 18:41
rince i tend to believe in following rules yes.
I also tend to believe that running around telling everyone what the rules are is stoopid(mispelled on purpose)
Not only will people NOT follow the rules when u tell them to do so, but they will also rub it in to you that they are not going to listen to you.
To me running around acting liek a mod when one is not a mod is a form of trolling. You are askign to be flamed or complained to or be called names.
It just lowers yourself to the maturity level of the people who ignore the rules.
Anyways not trying to flame here man, but eh, whatever they say your asking for it.
Let the MODS do their jobs, we don't need you telling us what every rule is.

Thanks and enjoy the show

Odin
05-08-03, 18:50
We aren't on the list because we haven't given them the numbers and don't plan to. Pretty comical to when you consider who is running that website :)

\\Fényx//
05-08-03, 18:55
Originally posted by Odin
We aren't on the list because we haven't given them the numbers and don't plan to. Pretty comical to when you consider who is running that website :)

youv'e still got 4 more fingers... on each hand to fill up untill your release the official figure of players :p j/k

TBH neocron _seems_ more packed than some certain other games that apparently have 10x the ammount of players. and another thing is that your work team at KK is like a fraction of what it is at the likes of verant/sony etc etc

Odin
05-08-03, 19:06
Originally posted by \\Fényx//
youv'e still got 4 more fingers... on each hand to fill up untill your release the official figure of players :p j/k

TBH neocron _seems_ more packed than some certain other games that apparently have 10x the ammount of players. and another thing is that your work team at KK is like a fraction of what it is at the likes of verant/sony etc etc

All I will say is that our numbers are quite fine. If people really are paranoid you only have to look as far as myself and Danae as we are the external workers. If we got canned without replacements then you can start worrying :) However I am not as our numbers are quite comfortable. If our numbers were that bad you probably woulda seen us filling out other markets much more faster (ie: Asia) then the pace we are currently at.

\\Fényx//
05-08-03, 19:10
Originally posted by Odin
All I will say is that our numbers are quite fine. If people really are paranoid you only have to look as far as myself and Danae as we are the external workers. If we got canned without replacements then you can start worrying :) However I am not as our numbers are quite comfortable. If our numbers were that bad you probably woulda seen us filling out other markets much more faster (ie: Asia) then the pace we are currently at.

Stop being so defensive :p thats what makes us worry lol :D

GT_Rince
05-08-03, 19:17
Originally posted by IronMonkey
rince i tend to believe in following rules yes.
I also tend to believe that running around telling everyone what the rules are is stoopid(mispelled on purpose)
Not only will people NOT follow the rules when u tell them to do so, but they will also rub it in to you that they are not going to listen to you.
To me running around acting liek a mod when one is not a mod is a form of trolling. You are askign to be flamed or complained to or be called names.
It just lowers yourself to the maturity level of the people who ignore the rules.
Anyways not trying to flame here man, but eh, whatever they say your asking for it.
Let the MODS do their jobs, we don't need you telling us what every rule is.

Thanks and enjoy the show

LOL - I wasn't aware that I was telling anyone what to do - it's simple - there are rules that you agree to (we all do). Those are KK's rules, not mine :)

No-one has flamed me - so not quite sure what you are talking about. The only person that has brough up the fact that I said there are rules is you :)

Oh, and for the record, that isn't bringing myself down to there level at all :)

Odin
05-08-03, 19:17
Originally posted by \\Fényx//
Stop being so defensive :p thats what makes us worry lol :D

Defensive? More like tired of the same suspicions and paranoia that comes in these threads.

Lord Cypher
05-08-03, 21:05
Odin is gonna pwn you all :lol:

Archeus
05-08-03, 21:12
Originally posted by Odin
If we got canned without replacements then you can start worrying :)

Heh heh.. KK now are "Dam we can't fire them! Or the customers will get scared!".

I would say the numbers are a lot higher then people are making out (although I wouldn't hazard a guess). For example you can get figures of player totals off the citycoms. They aren't accurate but Pluto for example would give you a rough estimate.

I was actually surprised they even allowed it TBH.

Nikolaidis
06-08-03, 19:05
Nice chart but they left out the biggest MMORPG.

Lineage
4.7 million subscribers
120 thousand concurrent users

Lineage is the leading MMORPG with a impressive 47% market share.

mr murb
06-08-03, 20:21
Damn, some of you spam way to much. (there should be a limit on number of posts per day)


anyway I sent the guy that made the chart an email asking why he didn't mention Neocron and got this reply.


From: "Bruce Sterling Woodcock"
Thanks for your email. You're right, I don't list it, mainly because as far as I know it hasn't reached 10K subscribers and in any case I don't have numbers for it. But, I do keep an eye on it!

\\Fényx//
06-08-03, 20:27
Originally posted by mr murb
Damn, some of you spam way to much. (there should be a limit on number of posts per day)

then what would I do with the rest of my day at work ?? o_O

Skinman
06-08-03, 20:51
It should be fairly easy to work out NC's MINIMUM position on that graph easily enough...

I remember when the last version of it was released, the guy making the graph was calling for people working inside the respective companies to leak subscriber numbers to him - and fair play to KK staff they have kept their mouths shut (prob. didn't want Nid paying them a visit ;) )

Anyway.. since the forums now must be tied to an active game account, and theres 17k forum users registered.. then you could assume that the minimum number of NC subscriptions is equal to that number..

However this doesn't include people with multiple NC accounts but only one forum account (remember we're talking about subscriptions and not players on-line on servers over a period of time), and it wont include the people that play NC but have never registered a forum account..

my 2 cents..

/edit for spelling