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Kalonji Faya
28-06-17, 10:17
Dear Neocron Support Team,

I have 2 request :

- would it be possible to have a full list of all mission available in Neocron (except Epic and Jones as we have everything we need to know on wiki.techhaven.org). At least a mod or GM could give me the list so I can edit the Wiki with a maximum of information ;)

- Could a dev build a little app to help us make our builds, there was Nskill that was awesome but with all the changes in the game mechanics it's no more accurate, if a dev could just build the base app, I can help making files with imps, armor and weapons with all the data needed for the app... like it worked in Nskill, so we just have to edit the files when items are updated ...

I know you guyz already have tons of work, but I can help, Maybe I can even code it myself, I just need to know exactly how dmg is calculated now (like the formulas we all had before, something like that : DMG = 10% Base + 30% H-C + 40% T-C + 20% WEP )

Thanks for thinking about it :)

Kalonji

Skansy
28-06-17, 16:30
- Could a dev build a little app to help us make our builds, there was Nskill that was awesome but with all the changes in the game mechanics it's no more accurate, if a dev could just build the base app, I can help making files with imps, armor and weapons with all the data needed for the app... like it worked in Nskill, so we just have to edit the files when items are updated ...

I know you guyz already have tons of work, but I can help, Maybe I can even code it myself, I just need to know exactly how dmg is calculated now (like the formulas we all had before, something like that : DMG = 10% Base + 30% H-C + 40% T-C + 20% WEP )


i dont think they will show us the code of damage calculation ... its a part of the game to test setups :)

i always look for better Setup, with the calculation i could make the best possible ingame :P

Mal
28-06-17, 17:12
The original NSkiller was built as a collaborative effort (which I helped out on), and I doubt NST would be interested in taking it up.

I tried doing an updated one, but the original code is a bloody mess and a bit too complicated for me - so I settled for updating all the item profiles instead.

It's not perfect, but it gives an impression.

Kalonji Faya
30-06-17, 11:50
Hey Mal and thanks for answering !!

By any chance could you send me the source code so I can see If I can do some adjustements ?

Else, I was wondering if you could send me the updated files for Nskill, ar at least tell me what you're updating and tell me what needs to be updated, so if you make each one some txt files with all items, like you said we could have an impression ;)

I'd like to help if you want mate :)

Thanks !!

Kalonji

William Antrim
30-06-17, 12:14
i dont think they will show us the code of damage calculation ... its a part of the game to test setups :)

i always look for better Setup, with the calculation i could make the best possible ingame :P

We used to have damage calculation % on TH.org when the 2.2 patch first hit.

Kalonji Faya
30-06-17, 12:44
Thanks William Antrim !!

I knew I saw that somewhere :) And I'm pretty sure it's on the forum too but couldn't find it. Anyway iirc on the forums it's not the 2.2 dmg calc, it's the NC2 one... so yours maybe more-up to-date !

Thanks again !

Kalonji

Mal
01-07-17, 12:26
Hey Mal and thanks for answering !!

By any chance could you send me the source code so I can see If I can do some adjustments?

Else, I was wondering if you could send me the updated files for Nskill, ar at least tell me what you're updating and tell me what needs to be updated, so if you make each one some txt files with all items, like you said we could have an impression ;)

I'd like to help if you want mate :)

Thanks !!

Kalonji

I don't have the original source code. I decompiled the existing NSkiller and attempted to clean it up a bit - but I think that was part of the issue...

That and Unity REALLY not liking lambda expressions! I passed it around my development team at work (I'm a software engineer - but I do testing rather than coding) and they couldn't get it going either!

TBH, it probably just wants a full re-write. I'm certainly not volunteering for that though :D

I've put a link in Community Projects (https://forum.neocron-game.com/showthread.php?157147-Updated-NSkill-item-list&p=2238842#post2238842) to the updated file list.

Kalonji Faya
02-07-17, 09:16
Cheers Mal !!

I'm with you on that !! I'll help to update the implant, weapon, bones, everything files so we can have a nice NSKILL just to have an idea of our setup !

If I have more time I'll try to rewrite an application from scratch with Qt or CodeBlocks I'll see... Anyway right now I don't have much time so I'll do help you with NSKILL :)

Thanks again Mal !

Kalonji

Kalonji Faya
31-07-17, 09:16
Hi pals !

Anyone from NST could send me a list of all the ingame mission that can be started by speaking with a NPC please ?!
The NSkill part of this thread is OK (there's another thread in the community project sub-forum).

So now, I'd really like to have the list of all NPC given mission, so I can update the Techhaven Wiki :) .
Thanks in advance to the NST team !

Kalonji

Baldur
31-07-17, 10:20
Hi pals !

Anyone from NST could send me a list of all the ingame mission that can be started by speaking with a NPC please ?!
The NSkill part of this thread is OK (there's another thread in the community project sub-forum).

So now, I'd really like to have the list of all NPC given mission, so I can update the Techhaven Wiki :) .
Thanks in advance to the NST team !

Kalonji

I already planned to post a list of all the new missions we implemented as soon as the new WOC missions are ready for retail.
I'll post it (without the new WOC missions) within the next 2 days.

Kalonji Faya
31-07-17, 10:36
Cheers Baldur !

I'll update the wiki as soon as I have the list and did all the mission so I can take screenshots and make a little description...
Thanks a lot !

Kalonji

Baldur
02-08-17, 13:19
Cheers Baldur !

I'll update the wiki as soon as I have the list and did all the mission so I can take screenshots and make a little description...
Thanks a lot !

Kalonji

Here you go : https://forum.neocron-game.com/showthread.php?157189-Overview-New-missions :)

Kalonji Faya
02-08-17, 14:19
Here you go : https://forum.neocron-game.com/showthread.php?157189-Overview-New-missions :)

Cheers Baldur !!

Just looked at the list, indeed it's the list of the new mission, but can you affirm that if I add those missions to the th.org wiki, the mission list will be complete ?!

Anyway thanks for that and see ya !

Kalonji

Baldur
02-08-17, 14:28
Cheers Baldur !!

Just looked at the list, indeed it's the list of the new mission, but can you affirm that if I add those missions to the th.org wiki, the mission list will be complete ?!

Anyway thanks for that and see ya !

Kalonji

If the THN-list currently has all the missions from the KK-era and you add the ones I listed the answer is yes.

Kalonji Faya
02-08-17, 14:41
Indeed thing is I asked for the complet mission list because I'm not sure thn has the whole list from KK-era :/
here is the actual list from THN wiki : THN Wiki Missions (https://wiki.techhaven.org/Category:Missions)

Is there a way to check it ?! I mean another way than speaking to each NC NPC lol

Thanks for your help Baldur :)

Kalonji

Baldur
02-08-17, 15:16
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Is there a way to check it ?! I mean another way than speaking to each NC NPC lol
Kalonji

Theoretically the answer is yes ;)
I'd have to check each entry of the file that organizes all the missions and compare it with the list from THN.
This file currently has more than 5000 entries, because all terminal missions etc. are included as well.

I might check all non terminal missions and compare them with the THN wiki but this may take some time. No promises so far ...


Edit: maybe Brammers knows if the THN lists all the non terminal from the KK era already.

Brammers
02-08-17, 15:36
Edit: maybe Brammers knows if the THN lists all the non terminal from the KK era already.

All the known missions are in the link given by Kalonji earlier - https://wiki.techhaven.org/Category:Missions I do know there are a few missing KK missions, and sadly no-one has added any of the new NST missions except for a stub page for this one https://wiki.techhaven.org/NCPD_has_an_eye_on_you

The terminal missions - there was an attempt to list all the Terminal missions, but it's not complete. https://wiki.techhaven.org/Runner_Missions

P.S. Thanks in advance for the updates to the wiki.

Kalonji Faya
02-08-17, 21:02
Hell Daemon's NCPD has an eye on you won't be a problem, I already have some screenshots to illustrate it and one of my runners is about to do it so I'll take some notes to make a little mission description.

Runner (terminal) mission are not my priority atm but it's somethon that has to be updated for sure... I'll try to look at it when I have time.

Thanks Brams for keeping THN online :)

Kalonji