View Full Version : new rares researchable
damien vryce
22-12-16, 04:08
so anyone who bought or traded for one of these that got researched and built got screwed huge by your miss coding let's call it or fck up. nice one or am I understanding this wrong ? but yet those people that took advantage of a bug or exploit get to keep all the money and rares they got for ressing them and selling them way to go.
What's the point? What do you want from us to do now?
Unfortunately the game requires a certain level of honesty from the community, had whoever first discovered the bug reported it in a ticket it may have reduced the impact on innocent players.
I don't know if you remember the kk days, but their answer to this would be roll back, mistakes happen thats fact and dealing with this old engine is bound to cause some issues to slip through, making an omelet without cracking a few eggs springs to mind.
William Antrim
22-12-16, 14:32
Give everyone one blueprint of the weapons and then patch the game so they're not bpable again. Everyone has one shot at slots and then the mistake can't be repeated. Sorted.
What's the point? What do you want from us to do now?
i would like to see some bans ...
99% of Runners playing Neocron atm know, that Rare Weapons normaly cant be researched.
So everyone who used this bug for his advantage in a big way should get a ban.
Cause that is exploiting ... and they destroy the ingame economy for everyone.
As i heared u could craft a Rare Heal with WP 1, 2 and 4 ... so u pay less than 1k Credits ... but you could get 20k - 30k depend on Slots.
So with Research and Construction Time of maybe 30 seconds u are rich ass mofu in a few hour ... plus i saw some rare heals in trade chat for 400k ...
sure its a mistake of the coding team ... but that does not mean, everyone can use this to exploit.
Give everyone one blueprint of the weapons and then patch the game so they're not bpable again. Everyone has one shot at slots and then the mistake can't be repeated. Sorted.
Are u crazy? Thats Rare Weapons from Rare Parts ...
i would prefere to delete every exsisting new Rare Weapon and start completly new with them ... sure i would lose my Rare Heal and the Melee Weapons ... but thats better than an overflooded marked.
Drachenpaladin
22-12-16, 16:43
mmmh... Milkey Ren every Blueprint of those guns?
But what to do with the existing ones...
damien vryce
22-12-16, 17:08
I for one trades and BLC for one of the new rares. and then paid 4.5 million for another rare. so the exploiter gets to keep all the riches while you fuck the honest players over by losing the new rare and also losing out on whatever the person traded to get said new rare I agree with skansy ban and remove their legit ones all who researched them.
time to Milky Ren the new rares. Just wipe em out!
yeah some bans are required to make the remaining community happy again so people can praise the mighty ban hammer again. worked before.
a wipe of the new rare weapons would be nice too, that would be your chance to remove the restoration from the game again.
Here are the facts and what we done since this "bug" was exploited.
It was reported that the new rares were BP'able, and as soon as it was known a softpatch was made to prevent these BP's from being copied and a further softpatch to prevent usage of the items. After investigation we have applied another softpatch to allow the items to be used again.
As the issue was quickly caught, the impact to the economy is low.
During the investigation we have discovered:-
The number of real rare items is quite low - much lower than most people would have expected.
Some players have made constructed version of the new rares - we have checked these items and removed them where necessary.
Some players have BP copies of the new rares - again these have been removed.
The NST will continue to monitor the issue and if necessary apply any bans to players who exploit this bug. If you have any more information on this exploit please report it in-game using the ? GM help tool in the top right of your screen or send an email to helpdesk@neocron-game.com The forums is not the place for reporting or discussing exploits.
Finally we would thank the players who did report this exploit.
damien vryce
22-12-16, 22:49
yeah some bans are required to make the remaining community happy again so people can praise the mighty ban hammer again. worked before.
a wipe of the new rare weapons would be nice too, that would be your chance to remove the restoration from the game again.
I'm looking for the down vote button I wish we had them here
damien vryce
22-12-16, 22:51
this whole thing is just a big fucking joke I see
i don t like the restoration. i m serious.
As the issue was quickly caught, the impact to the economy is low.
So next time a bug comes up ... everyone have to exploit as hell to not be fucked of this system?
cause hey ... when only 5 or 6 player got a few millions with researching, consting and selling them to Yos or Players its not bad for the economy, i could be the 7. and its still not bad ... but i got my benefit than ...
Load_HeavyLoad
23-12-16, 10:32
why not just roll the server back?
why not just roll the server back?
cause many new players started with 2.3 and u would lose everyone
so better remove every existing new rare ... so only old players will lose something :)
and ban the guys who ruined this shit ...
Ye, better ban some more ppl. Population is way to high on the server. Keep up the ban waves for every reason cause ppl complaing.
Some ppl who didn't abuse this exploit are salty cause someone made a little cash by doing it. No matter they know it was a exploit or not. And this ppl are the ppl wich always complain about every single piece of shit cause its not like they want it to be.
Ban players isnt always the answere of a problem but its going to be a problem. In my opinion the NST is not the Problem. They do theire best and still some ppl complain. The Problem is the fucked up community. MOST of the crying ppl would have used it by themselves if they had knewn it earlyer.
Skansy, promise you never used a single exploit. I KNOW you did. Stop fuck up every single shit YOU are not happy with cause there is no benefit for you. I fucking know u since nc1 and i fucking know u abused the shit out of bugs. So stop crying and let the NST work. Maybe they can find a better solution than ban everybody who did it and we dont lose like 20 out of 80 active players. Im so sick of complaining ppl especially the ones which are complaining about everything not giving them a benefit.
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Oh I forgot to say Skansy.. everybody who is kicking your ass is a cheater or the NST made bad game balance. Its never you who maybe is just not as good as your opponent... hell no.
bobhoskins
23-12-16, 14:14
cause many new players started with 2.3 and u would lose everyone
so better remove every existing new rare ... so only old players will lose something :)
and ban the guys who ruined this shit ...
Grow up Skansy.... Stupid to suggest bans for a little exploit. The team is trying to grow the population not diminish it for a silly exploit.
Dont know who is hiding behind "Thandor" ...
Ban players isnt always the answere of a problem
But it is the right thing for Cheater / Hacker / Exploiter / Modder / Botter ... what ever!
its the only way to fight against that!
sure i did some exploiting in NC1 and NC2 ... but hey ... i grow up a bit and know its shit for the game.
Maybe they can find a better solution than ban everybody who did it and we dont lose like 20 out of 80 active players.
As i said ... they shouldnt ban everyone ... just the few that abused it in a massivly way ...
But i think u are one of this guys ... so surely u dont want to be banned for that shit ... but hey ... i hope they will do!
Grow up Skansy.... Stupid to suggest bans for a little exploit.
Another one who did it massivly?
its not a "little exploit" ...
lets say a new player started in nc2.3 ... so he is capped now and farmed some stuff ... he maybe got 10-15 million if he played well ...
so ... build 1 spell cost 30 sec and 1.000 nc ... lowest sell price 20.000nc = 40k NC / minute = 2,4 Mio / hour ... by selling that stuff to Yos!
plus the spells sold to player who will lose this spell with the patch but payed a few hundret thousand or more ...
if there is no punishment here conclusion for me will be easy... stop reporting and start abuse the shit outta everythin cause there is nothin to be afraid of...
Im not hiding. It is my account since I bought the game... I would change it to Shagon but it doesn't matter at all. Just told u my opinion. I didn't used the bug at all and i didn't knew about it. I don't have to be scared but ban ppl in a low population is not the way to go if u still wanna play this game with more than 10 ppl on the server. Caution the guys and tell them to pay back the money or stuff or something like that.
But you and other individual persons are complaining about everything you or they don't benefit from and thats the point.
Help the NST to make the balance as good as possible is fine but complaining about things which are not true only cause it seems to be to strong for YOU is game breaking. And demand to ban people is also game breaking.
Yes, i totaly agree with ban everybody who i using a 3rd party program. But only if u can make 100% sure the person is really using something like that and not by suspicion. But thats another topic we are already done with.
bobhoskins
23-12-16, 15:23
Dont know who is hiding behind "Thandor" ...
But it is the right thing for Cheater / Hacker / Exploiter / Modder / Botter ... what ever!
its the only way to fight against that!
sure i did some exploiting in NC1 and NC2 ... but hey ... i grow up a bit and know its shit for the game.
As i said ... they shouldnt ban everyone ... just the few that abused it in a massivly way ...
But i think u are one of this guys ... so surely u dont want to be banned for that shit ... but hey ... i hope they will do!
Another one who did it massivly?
its not a "little exploit" ...
lets say a new player started in nc2.3 ... so he is capped now and farmed some stuff ... he maybe got 10-15 million if he played well ...
so ... build 1 spell cost 30 sec and 1.000 nc ... lowest sell price 20.000nc = 40k NC / minute = 2,4 Mio / hour ... by selling that stuff to Yos!
plus the spells sold to player who will lose this spell with the patch but payed a few hundret thousand or more ...
Nope, didnt exploit it at all. Just think its pretty small minded to suggest banning players for a small issue that wont effect nc end game experience... what you suggested will negatively effect end game as you want to ban players... who cares that some players made some money ??? Stop whining, if you have a compllaint as least make it constructuve so you can add something useful to the table. I bought one of these spells for 3million unwittingly... oh well shit happens... that certainly doesnt effect end game pvp for me..
Bob... how much nc am i allowed to expoilt per day then? if its no problem as long as its minor value there should be a limit right? *lol*
bobhoskins
23-12-16, 15:49
Bob... how much nc am i allowed to expoilt per day then? if its no problem as long as its minor value there should be a limit right? *lol*
Exploit all day if you want... that wont effect end game pvp... runners exploit everyday in leveling spots... pushing characters over safe zones etc.. you want to ban all these players too ? You and skansy wpuld both be banned if you want ban for explouts and would be no players left on the serverr
bobhoskins
23-12-16, 15:50
Bob... how much nc am i allowed to expoilt per day then? if its no problem as long as its minor value there should be a limit right? *lol*
Exploit all day if you want... that wont effect end game pvp... runners exploit everyday in leveling spots... pushing characters over safe zones etc.. you want to ban all these players too so no players left on the serverr
I bought one of these spells for 3million unwittingly... oh well shit happens... that certainly doesnt effect end game pvp for me..
so u would say ... "hey i dont care about the new players that bought one of this rares with all they got" or cant even buy anything now cause moneys worth get lower and lower?
yeah like Thandor ... just fuck up new players, cause we got everything we need ... thats the best way to stay with the same population ... but its okay
i will do it like mark ... waiting for the consequence
y but think about players that are not doin end game pvp.. not everyone in this game plays for op fights
bobhoskins
23-12-16, 15:58
so u would say ... "hey i dont care about the new players that bought one of this rares with all they got" or cant even buy anything now cause moneys worth get lower and lower?
yeah like Thandor ... just fuck up new players, cause we got everything we need ... thats the best way to stay with the same population ... but its okay
i will do it like mark ... waiting for the consequence
Said new player can easily make back that money that was swindled from them in an hour of pve.... but you prefer to suggest to ban players so we have less population ... if these new players leave over a small losss like that then there were never going to amount to anything in nc .. The players you suggest to ban are keeping to end game afloat with pvp and contributing to the community. Get off your high horse
bobhoskins
23-12-16, 15:59
So they have even more time to make that money back then if they dont do pvp mark lol !!!
rob a bank and try that reasoning on cort pls :)
dont forget to stream that on twitch pls
"i only took 1.000€, that didnt effect the bank"
"these people work all day, its easy for them to earn it again."
bobhoskins
23-12-16, 16:08
Nice example made me chuckle... Game vs real life though cant really compare the two
Just in case you missed Bifrost's post : *click me* (https://forum.neocron-game.com/showthread.php?156914-new-rares-researchable&p=2237586&viewfull=1#post2237586)
We're monitoring the situation, and we will not discuss any ban to the public, please respect that.
Related to the direction of this thread: remember our forum rules. (http://www.neocron-game.com/forum-rules)
Thanks.
I didn't fucked up anybody cause im not very active right now.
There are clans with huge rare pools... recruiting new players. So they have to make it the same way we did in the beginning. Join a clan and get the gear or farm rareparts and sell them. I don't think it will have a big effect for new players and/or veterans.
But what do new players do if they notice there is nobody else playing? It is like a never ending loop and the main problem what should be solved instead of ban players for a exploit they may didn't even knew about.
A clan is getting kicked his ass, they blame the other clan for 3rd party programs or the balance instead of work on the strategie and stop playing, the clan which is still looking for fun is getting bored and also stops playing. At this point everybody who still wants to play so badly is complaining about population issue again. Then there is a new Patch... people are hyped and coming back and it is all happening again exactly the same.
Some players are on a ego trip. They can't handle to lose but they never change anything to improve the ability to win... aaand im going to get off the point again :P
What i want to say... the main problem is the community. We have to act like great community to keep this great game alive.
The NST can do whatever they want. They can't fix the community issues. You can kill people in the game and still be friends with them even if they kick your ass every OP fight. I've seen your video and it was fun to watch but then u started complaining about spy army. Just make your own spy army if u think it's op (I don't think so) instead of ''ok I will stop playing until they fixed this op shit''. I don't want to fuck u up but think about it.
Maaan im sooo out of topic but i had to say that.
Odimara Orca
23-12-16, 17:59
Just in case you missed Bifrost's post : *click me* (https://forum.neocron-game.com/showthread.php?156914-new-rares-researchable&p=2237586&viewfull=1#post2237586)
We're monitoring the situation, and we will not discuss any ban to the public, please respect that.
Related to the direction of this thread: remember our forum rules. (http://www.neocron-game.com/forum-rules)
Thanks.
The last thing we need with player pop finally up is more bans... this was a one time stupidity, not much glas broken.
I don't understand the crying. Even if you bought one for 2.5 mil... that's not that much money.
hudsonbeck
24-12-16, 05:52
I didn't fucked up anybody cause im not very active right now.
There are clans with huge rare pools... recruiting new players. So they have to make it the same way we did in the beginning. Join a clan and get the gear or farm rareparts and sell them. I don't think it will have a big effect for new players and/or veterans.
But what do new players do if they notice there is nobody else playing? It is like a never ending loop and the main problem what should be solved instead of ban players for a exploit they may didn't even knew about.
A clan is getting kicked his ass, they blame the other clan for 3rd party programs or the balance instead of work on the strategie and stop playing, the clan which is still looking for fun is getting bored and also stops playing. At this point everybody who still wants to play so badly is complaining about population issue again. Then there is a new Patch... people are hyped and coming back and it is all happening again exactly the same.
Some players are on a ego trip. They can't handle to lose but they never change anything to improve the ability to win... aaand im going to get off the point again :P
What i want to say... the main problem is the community. We have to act like great community to keep this great game alive.
The NST can do whatever they want. They can't fix the community issues. You can kill people in the game and still be friends with them even if they kick your ass every OP fight. I've seen your video and it was fun to watch but then u started complaining about spy army. Just make your own spy army if u think it's op (I don't think so) instead of ''ok I will stop playing until they fixed this op shit''. I don't want to fuck u up but think about it.
Maaan im sooo out of topic but i had to say that.
The last thing we need with player pop finally up is more bans... this was a one time stupidity, not much glas broken.
I don't understand the crying. Even if you bought one for 2.5 mil... that's not that much money.
I can not express how much I agree with the two above posts. Especially the bolded blue parts above...
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