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Kragar
16-01-13, 18:38
As I see it currently the pvp is concentrated only in outpost fights and mostly elsewhere players
are equipped with LE chips.

I don't really know why the factions have been moved from Tech Haven and Doy to NC and is there a story about it or is it just to have the player population in one place.

I recently visited the abandoned DOY and its a really amazing place. Would be really interesting to
transform it to a free for all pvp zone. Maybe introduce some tokens that fall from other players
or maybe lockers would spawn some tokens to loot randomly across the whole zone which could
be used to buy some gear ( again doesn't have to be overpowered gear but just different ) or
trophys / furniture that are only available via this venue.

Story vice it could be " The next new underground entertainment " for those that Neofrag is not
enough or well first rule about " Frag club " is that no one talks about Frag club :) Maybe even
have an underground pvp championship tournament.

Other story spin could be that DOY was abandoned by haste as it was taken over by machines and
now the factions are doing archaeological advances to salvage new or strange tech that have popped up. Now its a battlefield for the new strange devices and players have to both fight bots and other players for the resources. Also evidently something truely menacing is stirring far below DOY and even strange twisted programs have been seen moving out of the DOY hacknet mainframe......

Biglines
16-01-13, 20:14
the reason they were removed from doy and th was because they were too far apart to have much pvp, trade or even communication going on afaik :p

da_fu$e
16-01-13, 22:46
LE träger weg, carebear game!

Kragar
17-01-13, 09:32
LE träger weg, carebear game!

What?

William Antrim
17-01-13, 14:04
Doy has battleground sectors already. It needs a reason to be there now.

da_fu$e
17-01-13, 14:51
vote 4 automatic LE remove at overall rank 40

Jodo
17-01-13, 16:34
ffs Leave it alone, it's never gonna happen and would only damage the game. I'm not saying anymore about these flamebait posts.

William Antrim
17-01-13, 18:27
I like the OPs idea tbh. I just think that DOY should become a mega outpost or something. Or part of it could anyway. A new high end content area for PVP as well as the PVE that is already in existence.

Ivan Eres
17-01-13, 18:27
ffs Leave it alone, it's never gonna happen and would only damage the game. I'm not saying anymore about these flamebait posts.

ye ppl can always have a proper clan and do op fighting, the real pvp end game instead of ganking noobs.

Netphreak
17-01-13, 19:12
I like the OPs idea tbh. I just think that DOY should become a mega outpost or something. Or part of it could anyway. A new high end content area for PVP as well as the PVE that is already in existence.

Definitely like this idea. Could have really interesting/fun fights both against players to own a sector or mobs in DOY.
I'd also like to see the DOY towers in the nearby wasteland sectors have some use.

[F6]Knight
17-01-13, 19:38
As for the LE, don't forget that TITAN is still relatively new and A LOT of people are still leveling up and gearing up.

As for the Dome, I believe the devs are working on a new content / story patch (at least I think I remember reading something about it recently). So I would say, let's be patient, let the devs do their work and see what happens. Afterwards we can start complaining if we don't like it :)

Kragar
18-01-13, 01:08
Obviously I mean PVP combat without LE chip. All pvp is now around a few clans that do OP wars which I also hope to join as soon as I have decently leveled up a character.

In NC1 at release the first thing I did when I created a character was to remove the LE chip, however I also suffered from not being able to play for hours due to Grief camps and idiotic ganking that have nothing to do with real pvp. That was at a time when players were still polite and not total dicks like mmmorpg:s are full of now.

Storyvice no society works with people running around killing each other without real good reason and just beloning to a faction is not reason enough.

Anyways it was just a suggestion for a very cool area and I really want much more PVP for the game, also some pvp that is not centered only on clan and Op fights.

William Antrim
18-01-13, 14:16
In NC1 at release the first thing I did when I created a character was to remove the LE chip, however I also suffered from not being able to play for hours due to Grief camps and idiotic ganking that have nothing to do with real pvp.

Anyways it was just a suggestion for a very cool area and I really want much more PVP for the game, also some pvp that is not centered only on clan and Op fights.

Which do you want? You contradicted yourself a little perhaps in that last post. If you dont want pvp at op fights and clans and stuff but you dont want pvp at levelling areas what else is there?

Jodo
18-01-13, 14:40
Which do you want? You contradicted yourself a little perhaps in that last post. If you dont want pvp at op fights and clans and stuff but you dont want pvp at levelling areas what else is there?

Zoneline hugging and tournaments spring to mind.

William Antrim
18-01-13, 15:01
Tournaments I am all for. Just needs someone to organise. I am surprised that they have not started up again tbh.

Torg
18-01-13, 19:36
neofrag, anyone? (not me, i'm happy levelling up new chars)

Kragar
20-01-13, 21:42
Which do you want? You contradicted yourself a little perhaps in that last post. If you dont want pvp at op fights and clans and stuff but you dont want pvp at levelling areas what else is there?

Currently there is very little PVP ( Little in few participants ) since there are about 5 clans that do OP fights and not everyone want or can join them for different reasons. I never said I don't want OP fights and as the Topic says, I want MORE PVP than just OP fights.

My whole point is to make DOY a PVP area for single players, and that removing LE chip completely wont make the game better.

Druid311
20-01-13, 22:31
Currently there is very little PVP ( Little in few participants ) since there are about 5 clans that do OP fights and not everyone want or can join them for different reasons. I never said I don't want OP fights and as the Topic says, I want MORE PVP than just OP fights.

My whole point is to make DOY a PVP area for single players, and that removing LE chip completely wont make the game better.

For me, I'd like to see Pepper Park become a main PvP sector again. I'm really bored with Plaza 2 pvp, imo It doesn't belong there. I feel like the atmosphere of Pepper Park makes the pvp there that much more fun.

Model192
25-01-13, 07:05
For me, I'd like to see Pepper Park become a main PvP sector again. I'm really bored with Plaza 2 pvp, imo It doesn't belong there. I feel like the atmosphere of Pepper Park makes the pvp there that much more fun.

This. Too many of us want P2 to be a safezone again, and P3, and move the fighting back to pepper park. If you leave the as unsafe zones then you need to do like other popular cyberpunk games with corporate sectors(plaza 1, viarosso) and make a radio call to neighboring zones about police dispatch/combat in neighboring zones. This makes people flock to those zones, and large fights ensue.

Doc Holliday
25-01-13, 09:46
agreed. p2 should be a safe spot. Add the shops back in there like it used to be too. much better. no idea why they were changed. its a great levelling area but is totally off limits to anyone without an LE chip in because thats were all the pros go to fight.

Torg
25-01-13, 11:59
For me, I'd like to see Pepper Park become a main PvP sector again.we'll have to wait for the story update, but i'd prefer to have the "old NC1" safezone setup: Safezones for all of Plaza and all of Via Rosso.

And could we please remove gaining faction symp by killing enemies (i'm not going to talk about well-known exploits here) and also gaining soullight from bought missions. Let's just set a minimum skill for returning trader missions (i.e. 150 res skill or a 150ish res mission) so fighter chars would be left with doing kill missions, or PvP more carefully.

I mean "this smacktalking noob char ran into my salvo in P2 and now i'm into red SL and have to work days to regain it" is pretty carebear, isn't it?

And yes, more PvP is a matter of PvP damage balance, too, but we've been talking about that (and will be in the future, i'm sure).

Dropout
25-01-13, 14:26
No Torg.. SL is annoying enough to gain as it is..

I miss back when you gained SL for killing enemy runners.. I could enter Pepper Park with like -50 SL, and act like a good boy for a couple of hours and then be at 100 SL.

Hate doing stupid, boring missions just to gain SL..

DR REED
25-01-13, 16:31
No Torg.. SL is annoying enough to gain as it is..

I miss back when you gained SL for killing enemy runners.. I could enter Pepper Park with like -50 SL, and act like a good boy for a couple of hours and then be at 100 SL.

Hate doing stupid, boring missions just to gain SL..

This is excactly what makes the SL system so prone to fail - you could do it elsewhere (not in PP3) and voila!

This system can be abused and it IS abused. That's worth an intelligent overhauling. At this time (and so long i am playing NC) criminal watch system in Neocron is not working properly which makes very bad atmosphere between players.

Reed