View Full Version : The future of Neocron
jonnyboy21
10-10-10, 20:02
Are there any plans to patch or even a Neocron 3 of sorts, if Black Prophecy is successful enough to provide sufficient resources for NC devs? Or is the game just going to be left to eventually die?
sorry to tell you but they aren't going to answer your simple question. i would just like to see the GM ban the cheaters [edited]
jonnyboy21
10-10-10, 20:08
Why wont they answer? mods still come here even if its dead no?
They are here but they are not telling the players whats going on with the game. not sure if they even know. kinda sad but it is what it is.
jonnyboy21
10-10-10, 20:26
Yep very sad to see, used to be such a great game, wasn't that long ago there was 10-15% population at peak times on terra
its getting a little better its been hitting 8% but i think its really like 6% cuz alot of people got a few accounts on at the sametime.
To be truthful, we mere minions don't know executive management's plans, so we cannot comment on what we don't know.
The game has received a patch in recent memory. Ok, it didn't quite go according to plan, but it proves the devs are still around and still care about the future of NC.
To be truthful, we mere minions don't know executive management's plans, so we cannot comment on what we don't know.
The game has received a patch in recent memory. Ok, it didn't quite go according to plan, but it proves the devs are still around and still care about the future of NC.
IMO it doesnt prove much.. They made a patch -> that did nothing. And they still havent bothered getting it fixed...
If they are ever going to release the anti-cheat patch, and get it to work, I will gain faith in the devs, but currently i have none.. :(
couldnt have put it better myself..
sorry dave... but... your excuse is FAIL!
I cant comprehend the lack of inteligence the dev team must have.. when they release a patch after um.. was it 2 years?? and it didnt work even on a basic level... i mean surely they test patches right?
just pfft.. kk = fail!
tbh I get that devs dont have time to work on NC because they are working on BP. what I dont get is their complete lack of communication. its been a few months again, we didnt get so much as a post about progress.
the community communication is something that KK hasn't learned, and are total morons at... at least let the damn gms know something....
I don't care any more. I'll just run around and shoot wildly at the air. People will think I am tripping and mad. No change, then.
*Sigh* Yeah communication.... said it many times, here and in many other places as well.
I'll say it again, a little "Yes we are still here, sorry no news." from KK management is better that nothing at all.
Transformer
12-10-10, 01:28
Hmmm work on a game that will potentially increase revenue i.e. BP....or a game that's free and pulling in no revenue i.e. neocron....
The question doesn't seem that hard to answer to me tbh. Of course we all wish that the dev's will work on this game but why would they? Even if they come out with a patch that works its not like KK is making any money off it.
Just be happy to play your game. For FREE if I might add, and stop bitching. KK is a business and they're going to do what they need to stay up on their feet. Obviously, they've chosen their direction as Black Prophecy.
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If there were news to give I'm sure you would know it. They've already stated that their focus is Black Prophecy and NOT Neocron. Nearing a release, if I were in KK's shoes I can't say I would have handled anything differently. They have their sights on finishing BP and they're going to. NC is on the back-burner, get used to it. Maybe when BP comes out, KK will have some resources to direct towards NC, but that's all in due time.
/end rant
Hmmm work on a game that will potentially increase revenue i.e. BP....or a game that's free and pulling in no revenue i.e. neocron....
The question doesn't seem that hard to answer to me tbh. Of course we all wish that the dev's will work on this game but why would they? Even if they come out with a patch that works its not like KK is making any money off it.
Just be happy to play your game. For FREE if I might add, and stop bitching. KK is a business and they're going to do what they need to stay up on their feet. Obviously, they've chosen their direction as Black Prophecy.
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If there were news to give I'm sure you would know it. They've already stated that their focus is Black Prophecy and NOT Neocron. Nearing a release, if I were in KK's shoes I can't say I would have handled anything differently. They have their sights on finishing BP and they're going to. NC is on the back-burner, get used to it. Maybe when BP comes out, KK will have some resources to direct towards NC, but that's all in due time.
/end rant
then maybe they should have said thats what they were doing. but the fact is, they announced over a YEAR ago, that they would make a patch within 3 months, which would give new content, and would restart payment after that. And yes, I would rather have a patched game that I have to pay for, than the free, buggy, cheater filled game it is now.
The bitching is about the fact that promises were made, absolutely no communication whatsoever was made during the promised time, no communication was made when the promised time was passed, no communication was made to announce if there were delays, problems, other priorities or not, then out of nowhere a patch, hardly any communication during that period telling us what was happening with the patch, then a small message saying it was rolled back and they would keep working, and then again MONTHS of not communicating.
Transformer
12-10-10, 14:45
Neocron and the state of play
I am not going to beat around the bush with regards to the general situation of Neocron. Because of the previous insolvency we were forced to freeze the development of Neocron and fully focus on the new project. This was inevitable in order to preserve the company and its 40 employees. That Neocron was neglected in the course of this bothers us in the same way as it does you. Neocron and everything connected to it is and always will be a part of us. After we succeeded in saving the company and putting it back on solid ground, I again have confidence in the future of Neocron. It will not be possible to make a complete overhaul, but we will take all action to keep Neocron alive as long as possible. I am not able to go into details at this time, but we will keep you posted on that matter.
Until then, we will support you and Neocron as effectively as possible, be it with the Gamemaster team or our e-mail support, and continue to provide it for the same low expense as before.
Thank you for your time and the confidence you place in us
Kirk
Posted June of 2009
As some of you might have already heard, the insolvency proceeding of Reakktor Media’s assets has been abrogated. I don’t have to tell you how relieved we are and on behalf of the whole team I would like to thank you for your support, your loyalty and all the congratulations we have received from you.
The first question you will ask, for good reason, is what will now happen to Neocron. First of all I would like to apologize for remaining silent for such a long time and for not informing you earlier about the insolvency abrogation. I still want to avoid serving you half-baked facts and only speak out when I actually have something to say.
As I have already stated in my previous post, the focus was set to Black Prophecy as this project is crucial for the preservation of the company and its jobs, but also to ensure the continuation of the Neocron project. In this case Neocron had to take the back seat as harsh this might sound for some of you. Against all odds and some voices, who advised us to simply let Neocron rest in peace, we came out on top and kept Neocron alive.
Now, as we are independently operational again, the primary goal is to get the business processes back up and running. Among others, this includes the reactivation of the previously suspended payment options, like e.g. PayPal and to make further payment options available if required. Though, the payment will only be re-activated after we have put Neocron back in the right way with technical and content-wise updates, thus we are planning an according patch.
To enable a long-term future for Neocron, but also to lay foundation for a possible Neocron 3, we consider these measures as necessary. We assume to be able to provide the reactivation of the payment options and the deployment of said patches within the next three months.
Of course you will be informed immediately when I am able to share more information on this matter.
With this in mind,
Yours Kirk
posted in november 2009, what's your point?
Transformer
12-10-10, 18:07
then maybe they should have said thats what they were doing.
"As I have already stated in my previous post, the focus was set to Black Prophecy" -kirk
Thats my point. They did say what they were doing. Focus is off of Neocron. Welcome to the world of business.
"As I have already stated in my previous post, the focus was set to Black Prophecy" -kirk
Thats my point. They did say what they were doing. Focus is off of Neocron. Welcome to the world of business.
Now, as we are independently operational again, the primary goal is to get the business processes back up and running. Among others, this includes the reactivation of the previously suspended payment options, like e.g. PayPal and to make further payment options available if required. Though, the payment will only be re-activated after we have put Neocron back in the right way with technical and content-wise updates, thus we are planning an according patch.
that is the message 4 months later, saying that they want to get the payment going asap, in order to get paid... so they were going to do a patch. Seeing as this message is posted AFTER the one you posted, it's the one we're mostly likely to believe, as it is the most recent... meaning they are not communicating, are not keeping their promises, and are incapable of effective communication otherwise our discussion wouldn't even be happening
Transformer
12-10-10, 20:59
I'm really not trying to be a dick here biglines, but even in the very message you quoted, you can read right before that
" First of all I would like to apologize for remaining silent for such a long time and for not informing you earlier about the insolvency abrogation. I still want to avoid serving you half-baked facts and only speak out when I actually have something to say.
As I have already stated in my previous post, the focus was set to Black Prophecy as this project is crucial for the preservation of the company and its jobs, but also to ensure the continuation of the Neocron project. In this case Neocron had to take the back seat as harsh this might sound for some of you. Against all odds and some voices, who advised us to simply let Neocron rest in peace, we came out on top and kept Neocron alive."
Yeah, he said they're planning a content patch to get Neocron on its way back to being able to be payable/playable state, but with the focus clearly stated...twice...on Black Prophecy I find it hard to believe that it will be anytime soon. Realistically, I wouldn't expect to see something until after a launch for BP. I'd love to be proven wrong.
I certainly agree that KK pretty much blows at communicating, even after promoting Nidhogg to Liaison, which was supposed to address this issue. But obviously he's not getting any news to pass on, you can't expect him to BS shit just you keep you happy.
Yeah, he said they're planning a content patch to get Neocron on its way back to being able to be payable/playable state, but with the focus clearly stated...twice...on Black Prophecy I find it hard to believe that it will be anytime soon. Realistically, I wouldn't expect to see something until after a launch for BP. I'd love to be proven wrong.
We assume to be able to provide the reactivation of the payment options and the deployment of said patches within the next three months.
3 months is likely to be optimistic, but it took almost a year of total silence for the simple anticheat patch, let alone a content patch, and not even a post to indicate it would be taking longer!
by any standard this is miscommunication. I wouldn't have minded one bit that it was late, if they even bothered communicating, but as usual it just comes out of nowhere, doesn't work, then total communications silence again
Dont bother arguing with him Biggy.. He is clearly just a KK fan-boi :rolleyes:
Transformer
12-10-10, 22:30
Lol @ the accusation of being a KK fan boi. All I'm trying to say is that if you've really been here since 2002, why are you expecting anything different of KK? its not like they have a good track record. I'm sick of seeing people bitch about "WAHHH they don't talk to us." If time has shown us anything, its that I wouldn't expect a legitimate response until they have a legitimate answer. Dev's are working on BP, Mods are trying to keep us happy as much as possible. end story.
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here's hoping the devs read this and prove me wrong
I agree with Transformer!
>_>
*run*
And it's really a shame. After watching games flop, and games make it. There's really no reason why Neocron shouldn't have been hugely successful.
I'll stop there before I write a 1500 essay on the subject :P
Lol @ the accusation of being a KK fan boi. All I'm trying to say is that if you've really been here since 2002, why are you expecting anything different of KK? its not like they have a good track record. I'm sick of seeing people bitch about "WAHHH they don't talk to us." If time has shown us anything, its that I wouldn't expect a legitimate response until they have a legitimate answer. Dev's are working on BP, Mods are trying to keep us happy as much as possible. end story.
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here's hoping the devs read this and prove me wrong
k, I'm never expecting better from KK, but I can still whine at them :p
seems like we were making the same point, except you were trying to say "oh heck, like they ever would", while I was saying "fuck sake, they really should"
must be my sunny disposition and eternal optimism :D
Lol @ the accusation of being a KK fan boi. All I'm trying to say is that if you've really been here since 2002, why are you expecting anything different of KK? its not like they have a good track record. I'm sick of seeing people bitch about "WAHHH they don't talk to us." If time has shown us anything, its that I wouldn't expect a legitimate response until they have a legitimate answer. Dev's are working on BP, Mods are trying to keep us happy as much as possible. end story.
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here's hoping the devs read this and prove me wrong
Ah well I just read is as if you were defending them, for not telling us anything..
And no, I dont expect anything else from KK, I have been around for far too long for that. I know how bad they are at communicating...
That doesnt make it right, that they dont tell us anything (and again, I honestly dont expect them to tell us anything), still it doesnt make it right ;)
One thing I dont understand however, is the way they released the anti-cheat-fail patch.. We heard nothing till the day they patched..
Would a "hey guys, anti-cheat patch in the making, expect it pretty soon" be too hard? They obviously knew that they were making it...
One thing I dont understand however, is the way they released the anti-cheat-fail patch.. We heard nothing till the day they patched..
Would a "hey guys, anti-cheat patch in the making, expect it pretty soon" be too hard? They obviously knew that they were making it...
tbh, with their community communication, I wouldn't be suprised if their internal communication was just as crappy, like half the company wudn't know what the other half is doing...
tbh, with their community communication, I wouldn't be suprised if their internal communication was just as crappy, like half the company wudn't know what the other half is doing...
Hehe yea, the one dev is surfing porn too much to bother saying anything, about whatever it is hes doing :lol:
Ever wondered why the server sometimes runs so badly..? Thats right, PORN! :D
One thing I dont understand however, is the way they released the anti-cheat-fail patch.. We heard nothing till the day they patched..
Would a "hey guys, anti-cheat patch in the making, expect it pretty soon" be too hard? They obviously knew that they were making it...
Yes, they totally should have warned all the cheaters that an anti-cheat patch was coming so they could be ready for it!
Yes, they totally should have warned all the cheaters that an anti-cheat patch was coming so they could be ready for it!
.... So tell me..... how the hell would they be ready for it? Since they really wouldnt know how it was made, till after it had been released?
Uh maybe you ment that they would start practicing legit pvp? :lol:
Anyways, enough talk about noobs - dont wonna get this very usefull thread closed...
the anticheat patch wouldn't have made cheaters get banned, it would only have disabled a lot of cheats so they wouldn't work anymore
active banning would require GM's.... lol
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