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Fawkes
17-04-10, 18:11
Used to play NC a long time ago (started at beta 4), damn best game I've ever laid my hands on. Had to quit since I had to join the army. That was 6 long years ago...

So I'm thinking about coming back. Should I?

I was thinking about trying a different mmo, but having seen all those no-skill-required-whatsoever, point n' click, PvE oriented bullshit games such as WoW and LotRO (I even tried LotRO. How people enjoy these utterly boring repetitive text based quests and hack n' slash PvE fights is beyond me), I gave up the search.

I remember back then there were quite a few nuisances like low populated servers, endless zone syncs, crashes and some other stuff I can't remember. Are these annoyances still around? I'm specifically worried about this game being near deserted. How many people are logged in during peak hours?

I used to play a pistol PE (lib). They were pretty underrated back then but I really liked my char and would like to use low tech pistols again. Are they still any good?

Thanks :)

gypsiMoth
17-04-10, 18:17
Yes people still play Neocron. There are pretty decent peak times in pop. The bugs are still around. Welcome back to Neocron!

extract
17-04-10, 20:10
low tech pistols are the way to go still aside from xbow, and libby still does killer dmg too high for its TL too if you ask me...

as far as server populations, during peak which is not "my" peak 6-9% but even then the game still seems deserted unless your in one of the 3 top clans atm and are having an op fight you probably wont find a fight anywhere except the random p2 fight vs the hacking dev tanks....I dont want to put you off there are alot of legit people who can give u a fair fight but I figured Id let you know before you get ingame again thinking its gonna be like it was and forget it forever...welcome back

Fawkes
17-04-10, 20:36
This all does sound rather discouraging, but it is as I suspected.
I was skimming through some of the threads here and have a few more questions:
1. People are cheating? I never dreamt cheating would be possible in NC, naive me. How do they cheat?
2. Is it free to play now? Anyone can elaborate?

Anyway if it is free to play I might come back just for kicks and see what's going on.

Anyone care to share their experience with other mmo's? Fallen Earth sounds decent, albeit all the bugs and the broken economy system I read about here and there. Think I'll try the free trial. I really got the craves for a good cyberpunk/scifi mmofps.

Dr Phil
17-04-10, 20:52
There are some cheaters around, yes. Most arent cheating though..

Yes its free to play atm, if you have a NC2 account, you can just login and play.


All other MMOs suck tbh.. Dunno why, but theres always something wrong with new MMOs (usually the pvp sucks) :(

silent000
18-04-10, 01:08
I played Fallen Earth for about 2 months from Beta, and got really hooked. I was taking in the scenery and admiring the view while completeling my quests. Then it occured to me that I hate that style of play and I wanted some PvP action, which is absolutly WANK!

Don't get me wrong the game has potential and it's an amazing environment to play in... But god damn is it boring as hell, but you may like that sort of thing so don't hold my statement in your head if choosing to play or not ;)

Fawkes
18-04-10, 05:06
I don't like that style of play either, I play mainly to cap my char and then socialize and PvP, I don't really care about quests (perhaps unless they're group oriented), and PvE is just a way for me to reach my goal of capping and being able to PvP other capped players. Of course I really like the the cyberpunk environment and and atmosphere and events can be really cool. How can a mmofps like Fallen Earth not have hardcore PvP? That's just a shame :( I'll look into it anyway :o

On a side note, I've been trying to download the NC installer, to no avail so far. Downloaded from gamespot and then MMOsite.com, both files were corrupt. I'll try another mirror, but I fear third time's not a charm.
Is it possible to install the game using the original NC1 CD?

Dr Phil
18-04-10, 07:02
I don't like that style of play either, I play mainly to cap my char and then socialize and PvP, I don't really care about quests (perhaps unless they're group oriented), and PvE is just a way for me to reach my goal of capping and being able to PvP other capped players. Of course I really like the the cyberpunk environment and and atmosphere and events can be really cool. How can a mmofps like Fallen Earth not have hardcore PvP? That's just a shame :( I'll look into it anyway :o

On a side note, I've been trying to download the NC installer, to no avail so far. Downloaded from gamespot and then MMOsite.com, both files were corrupt. I'll try another mirror, but I fear third time's not a charm.
Is it possible to install the game using the original NC1 CD?

Now thats bad luck o_O
Ive downloaded NC a lot of times, and never got corrupt files.
I think FileFront (http://www.filefront.com/6927493/Neocron-Evolution-v2.2-10-Day-Trial/) was what I used to download NC last time.

And no, you cant use the NC 1 disc ;)

Fawkes
18-04-10, 16:44
Apparently it was a problem on my end. Seeing as the third file was also causing an error, I figured it might be a fw/av problem, so I tagged the installer as a safe file and now it works.

But now I have another problem. I checked on the NC website to see if my account is still active and apparently it is, so I used it to log in but I can't get past the server selection screen. I choose Terra and then it says: 'connecting to server' and after a few seconds it goes back to the server selection screen. Is this a known issue or is it probably my old account causing the problem?

I wouldn't mind creating a new account, but on the website it seems there are no ways to create an account for free (says I have to pay a monthly fee of €5.00).

What to do? :confused:

Dr Phil
18-04-10, 19:00
But now I have another problem. I checked on the NC website to see if my account is still active and apparently it is, so I used it to log in but I can't get past the server selection screen. I choose Terra and then it says: 'connecting to server' and after a few seconds it goes back to the server selection screen. Is this a known issue or is it probably my old account causing the problem?
If you can get past the login screen, to server selection, it sounds like its another problem on your end ;)
Are you sure you dont have a firewall messing things up?


....And there ends my knowledge about NC problems :p
I am sure theres plenty of people who knows a whole lot more about NC problems than me though ;)

BTW, are you using Vista or Windows7? If thats the case theres a thread somewhere about how to get NC to run, since those can lead to some problems - or so ive heard (im still living with XP hehe).

Biglines
18-04-10, 19:24
like in the other post, your account is probably still nc1, you'll probably have to start over unless you can get KK to transfer it again (which is non-existent to very slim)

gypsiMoth
18-04-10, 22:38
If your running Vista you need to disable user account controls. There is a thread about it somewhere. Also if your running win7 running as administrater somewhat helps. Also the first run of Neocron run in windows mode that will help as well:) You can get to that setting in the launcher.

Biglines
19-04-10, 00:01
and if vista/w7 don't put it in program files (or move the entire folder to for example c:\neocron2 or my documents\neocron2

extract
19-04-10, 02:15
This all does sound rather discouraging, but it is as I suspected.
I was skimming through some of the threads here and have a few more questions:
1. People are cheating? I never dreamt cheating would be possible in NC, naive me. How do they cheat?



discouraging at times yes, but still 90% of the time I still have fun Im past the point now where I have to stay constantly logged in waiting and waiting for something to happen, if noones on, or theres people on but no fights I log. the "cheaters" like phil said are few and far between anymore.

and as far as your question about people are cheating, yes its possible and Id go into why but I dont know specifics and if I did nid would edit them faster than you would be able to see it anyways, all I will say is log in and fight some people, chances are youll recognize them by the holy hell how is that tank running like he has 250 athletics, doing damage like he has 500 hc and never misses with dev even when im eons away whilst taking shit for damage while showing his cool teleportation tricks and then when he dies he doesnt drug bug.


btw: regarding your other thread that closed, if you gotta start fresh there are lots of people ingame who are totally down to help out with gear but lvling is kind of a solo mans game now, if your that old of a vet you are probably used to the huge team lvling at caves and shit, now its just regeants, which is killer xp anyways. but anyways just saying if u want to get back into it hit some of us forum junkies up were always around

Fawkes
19-04-10, 04:44
It works!
I've tried everything, and I mean everything suggested in that Vista help thread except moving the folder away from program files, and that solved the problem.
I'll create a char some other time as I have to go to work.

Thank you all and see you ingame. :)

Dr Phil
19-04-10, 04:59
all I will say is log in and fight some people, chances are youll recognize them by the holy hell how is that tank running like he has 250 athletics, doing damage like he has 500 hc and never misses with dev even when im eons away whilst taking shit for damage while showing his cool teleportation tricks and then when he dies he doesnt drug bug.
*Hides my dev tank*
Well he doesent take much damage (from most people), because they just cant hit him :D



Good to see that you solved the problem! See you ingame ;)

silent000
19-04-10, 09:57
Welcome Back!

Right... Who's next?

Fawkes
19-04-10, 15:33
Oh and by the way I can also log in with my old, 6-7 years old, NC1 account. And I found two of my characters there too! Oh, the nostalgia... Too bad they lost all their equipment and are now starter chars :(

Any PPU's out there wanna help me level? :D

cshank4
20-04-10, 17:36
I'd totally play again if I could get the game to launch.

I hit 'Play!' and the game hangs, then crashes at the loading screen before the login. :[

extract
20-04-10, 18:11
Oh and by the way I can also log in with my old, 6-7 years old, NC1 account. And I found two of my characters there too! Oh, the nostalgia... Too bad they lost all their equipment and are now starter chars :(

Any PPU's out there wanna help me level? :D

heh nc isnt like it used to be, i had that same mindset when i first came back to take a ppu to like mb bunker, but even a capped ppu the heal isnt as good as it used to be i can remember nc 1 being able to take my ppu and help xx/5 nibs kill launchers, but not anymore, so my best advice depending on class is do tl 150 ress mish til u can be like 28ish base at all, then go start grinding, if ur pe or spy class i seriously recommend droning to lvl, like i said before lvling is now a solo mans game and with regeants and the retarded mobs there u can almost go there as soon as u can walk the parasites they bite but their damage bugs so the hp comes back, i was killing those things on my first back to nc char at lvl xx/30 til cap until i found the marvelous wonder that is called the bossroom

Fawkes
20-04-10, 22:56
That's bad news extract :(
Oh well I have time not like I'm paying for this game :D

NAPPER
21-04-10, 11:25
I'd totally play again if I could get the game to launch.

I hit 'Play!' and the game hangs, then crashes at the loading screen before the login. :[

if ur on vista make sure u have everything set to admin and play it in admin and so on.

when u install it change it to somewhere else

ulx
21-04-10, 12:49
btw when i returned, i also had the issue that the game got stuck on loading screen.
However, out of the 3 machines i have that r able to run nc, only those with realtek onboard sound had the issue.
To solve it, i basically disabled music (not sfx).
However, i didnt find an option ito do so in the ini files, so i deactivated the soundcard, started the game (it loaded like it should), disabled music in the options, quit the game, enabled the soundcard again and neocron loaded properly with sound.

extract
27-04-10, 03:34
btw when i returned, i also had the issue that the game got stuck on loading screen.
However, out of the 3 machines i have that r able to run nc, only those with realtek onboard sound had the issue.
To solve it, i basically disabled music (not sfx).
However, i didnt find an option ito do so in the ini files, so i deactivated the soundcard, started the game (it loaded like it should), disabled music in the options, quit the game, enabled the soundcard again and neocron loaded properly with sound.

thats pretty rediculous that you had to do that, its funny how every person has a different solution to the same problem. i didnt have the hanging issue but i run vista and when i first came back my issue was constant fatals was only fixed by not installing it under program files and running as administrator every time i load the game, of course after doing that i dont ever fatal....not ever which is funny when i think about it considering the game were talking about here......

Whitestuff
27-04-10, 16:10
I'd totally play again if I could get the game to launch.

I hit 'Play!' and the game hangs, then crashes at the loading screen before the login. :[

Also, if you are running Vista or Seven, you can right click the neocron.exe file, go to properties and enable running in compatibility mode for Windows 98 SE or XP. Fixed all of my problems in one swoop. It pops up a warning saying that I am low on memory (b/c 98 only recognizes 2GB of RAM I think...) but the game runs fine. Hangs for like 30 seconds after server selection, but it gets in and runs at 135+ FPS, no problems after that. Except, you know, the good old FRE's.

Trilaac
28-04-10, 16:38
you can pretty much run the game from a local folder without repointing the launcher icon... as long as the patches are in the same folder as the rest of the game.

The game is still going after all this time.. the hamsters are getting a bit tired now though:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4wtdTqffxE