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Dru Blood
24-02-10, 22:27
http://www.neocron3.com/

Just a quick Google and noticed this URL, its live with a modern Neocron Logo

only information states;

WE BELIEVE!

Dribble Joy
24-02-10, 22:48
No idea...

Could be real, could be a fake.

Rambus
24-02-10, 22:54
neocron.com


Domain Name: NEOCRON.COM

Administrative Contact:
Schwiezer
Schwiezer, Joerg
Reakktor media
Karl-Wiechert-Allee 72
Hannover, 30625
DEU
999 999 9999 fax: 999 999 9999

Technical Contact:
WWW-Service Online-Dienstleistungen GmbH
WWW-Service Online-Dienstleistungen GmbH
Neugablonzer Str. 1
Neutraubling, Neutraubling 93073
DE


neocron2.com


Owner Contact:
Kirk Lenke
Reakktor Media GmbH
Arnswaldstr. 10
Hannover, 30159, DE

Punycode Name: neocron2.com
Unicode Name: neocron2.com

Admin Contact
Jan Ollenschlaeger
Reakktor Media GmbH

Arnswaldstr. 10
Hannover, 30159, DE
phone: +49.511540980

Technical Contact
Hostmaster Strato Ag
Strato AG

Pascalstr. 10
Berlin, 10587, DE
phone: +49.1805007677

Zone Contact
Hostmaster Strato Ag
Strato AG

Pascalstr. 10
Berlin, 10587, DE
phone: +49.1805007677

Record expires on: 2010-09-26 13:34:48

Domain servers in listed order:

ns.stratoserver.net 81.169.163.40
ns2.stratoserver.net 81.169.148.41
neocron3.com


Michael Schaefer

Nansenstrasse 14
Wiesbaden, 65203, DE
Punycode Name: neocron3.com
Unicode Name: neocron3.com

Admin Contact
Michael Schaefer


Nansenstrasse 14
Wiesbaden, 65203, DE
phone: +49 6111860349

Technical Contact
Hostmaster Strato Rechenzentrum
Cronon AG Professional IT-Services

Emmy-Noether-Str. 10
Karlsruhe, D-76131, DE
phone: +49 72166320305

Zone Contact
Hostmaster Strato Rechenzentrum
Cronon AG Professional IT-Services

Emmy-Noether-Str. 10
Karlsruhe, D-76131, DE
phone: +49 72166320305

Record expires on: 2010-11-11 15:30:24

Domain servers in listed order:

shades19.rzone.de
docks05.rzone.de

May or may not be a fan page.

Biglines
24-02-10, 22:55
KK doesn't own that domain, but it's registered in germany, so they can probably sue for trademark breach in germany (in the us they lost the trademark right?)

plus KK wouldn't use that bloody ugly font for "we believe"

edit: lol rambus beat me to it

Dru Blood
24-02-10, 22:56
Nice research, I did a quick whois myself but you beat me to it :)

looks interesting, nice graphic.

I think it might be genuine.

Dru Blood
24-02-10, 23:05
Just did a little more research.

heres some other domain names registered on the same day

http://dailydomains.org/nameserver/rzone.de/date/20091111/

project-nc3.com
neocron3.net

Now I know this is not a genuine KK holding, as I think this is related to a small community project which has had little activity over the past 3/4 years.

Aeon Blur
25-02-10, 03:58
Thing is...the city in the graphic's background has a few elements that say to me this may not be a fansite or wishful thinking. (I'd soil meself if that was Plaza 1 in the pic, wouldnt you?)
But we'll see.
Either way--We Believe.

Hail Neocron.

kane
25-02-10, 05:00
That is fake :(

Tantta
25-02-10, 07:32
With a very quick look it looks kinda similiar with the old new york wallpaper.
http://koti.mbnet.fi/thantos/kaikkee/new-york-city-vs-neocron.jpg

Dru Blood
25-02-10, 11:06
Very well spotted Tantta

Still I added that background as my desktop wallpaper, still I hope for an NC3.

nabbl
25-02-10, 11:25
try to blame michael corvin for that :-P

http://forum.neocron.com/member.php?u=22959

http://www.empiresofevil.de/


Ich hoffe ihr seid nicht allzu traurig (waren eh nur paar Bildchen ;/ ) und danke euch für die regelmässigen Besuche.

Michael "Corvin" Schäfer

My name is Nabbl... Sherlock Nabbl

CMaster
25-02-10, 11:25
Also, notice the "we believe" text. Almost certainly a fansite. If so though, I'm sure legal action won't be necessary on KK's part - the holders will surrender it to KK if KK ever actually want it.

Brammers
25-02-10, 16:23
Ahh so it was Michael Corvin! I like the "We are watching you" billboard in the picture.

I'm surprised KK didn't buy the Neocron3.com domain when they started talking about it in the letter last November.

Dru Blood
25-02-10, 17:14
I was hoping for something Official, ahh well who knows, maybe one day :)

dodgefahrer
25-02-10, 17:54
I was hoping for something Official, ahh well who knows, maybe one day :)

Dont loose ur hope dude !

Biglines
25-02-10, 18:16
lol, the fact that they are not even communicating for the past 4 months even though they said they would have a patch about a month ago, while it might be good to have hope of ever getting neocron 3, don't hold your breath, it will be years if ever

Brammers
25-02-10, 18:47
I was hoping for something Official, ahh well who knows, maybe one day :)

This is about as official as it gets for any news on NC3 (http://forum.neocron.com/showthread.php?t=143967). Although any real news on NC3 will be years away, I wish KK would say something about the patch that was supposed to be appearing around this month. Instead KK are not saying anything. :mad:

[K1]Luke
25-02-10, 19:07
Although NC3 would be great, I doubt we will get the players come back, not without a huge advertising campaign. That being said the game's not too bad. Only real big problems are mob damage, serious bugs here and there and the hacks that are available to pretty much any new player to the game.

If the hacks were stopped and the major bugs fixed then this game will be fine. All KK need to do is run the servers off the back of their new game, and I'm sure some people still pay for this? Voluntary donations that is.

Dru Blood
25-02-10, 19:14
I think eventualy it will happen, it's just a matter of time.

Seezur001
26-02-10, 14:14
I think eventualy it will happen, it's just a matter of time.Here's to hoping however that KK is not the one who makes it.

Flashlite
28-02-10, 23:58
kk fails the end. move on

extract
01-03-10, 03:58
your here, im here, alot of people still here I would hardly call that fail, in fact i garuntee at least 60% of the people who still play would still be here if it was not free

yea i could be pissed, but i save that negative energy for more important battles, like actually paying to play, having downtime and no comments about it.

bitching about a patch however or lack of comments of one in my opinion is wasting time, and energy for several reasons

chances are it wont fix the cheating, certain weapons and classes will remain fucked, content if added will either further unbalance things or just plain out be utterly worthless....or maybe it will fix everything and eradicate hacking/cheating

one things for certain, yea i hate certain aspects of the game, I hate that I ALWAYS think when I lose the other person is cheating, i hate that people have created that thought process for me....but more importantly I realize that in the end, regardless of additions of patches, content, removal of hackers, there are genuine normal players, I do get at least what i think are fair fights(or Im just that freaking good baby) and it is just a game, a game that I play for free for at least the last year, a game where I can just log in "sometimes" for a fight and log out, a game where there are some people who if the game was gone i probably would never talk to them again, but I actually really like chattin it up ingame, so in my mind as long as im not paying anything out of my pocket they can do whatever the hell they want in my opinion :P

[K1]Luke
01-03-10, 13:11
I agree with extract, this game is currently free and whatever happens happens. If KK want to start charging for the game they will have to fix it, but as of right now we've got a good free game, a good community and some good OP fights.


I hate that I ALWAYS think when I lose the other person is cheating

never really thought of it until now, but I feel the same way. it's very frustrating since most people you just know are cheating but for legit players who actually have skill and can take someone down only to be branded a cheater straight away, I can only imagine how annoying that is.

That being said it might be a laugh and probably helpful to some extent if we use the Broadcasting available now with Xfire. I've used it briefly but it seems like it would be handy in proving that you are not a cheater with a live show of you playing. Not to mention if Gm's happen to watch it and get a feel of what OP fights are like on a day to day basis, viewing it live (about 5 seconds delay from what I know). That also means no more frapsing and uploading uneditted 4gig videos ^^

MrTrip
02-03-10, 09:46
I want Neocron 3 :(

kane
04-03-10, 05:12
Do you really think there could be a Neocron 3? I don't not with the type of service we get anymore.

They left it to die and dry up.. Heck even the people making the emulators got tired of to many client side bugs and gave up lol..

It's not just about that I wish KK would sell me Neocron for like a 1,000 bucks not even to own but to run my own server in say Canada.

Why? I would advertise it every night and day I would even pay for advertising and I would have it as a 100% F2P game and it would end up on the front site of Major mmorpg sites.

Maybe offer a small item mall for example full point resets without drugs and such nothing to crazy..

A lot of things can be done without the source err Why the hell can I get my hands on the biggest MMORPG's but not the old dead ones.. Oh wait I guess that made no sense cuz their dead lol.

Point is Neocron and Endless Ages I would have love to run a free server and or hell even pay KK lets say a certain percent if I make any at all It's a free game the point is to just have players.

flib
04-03-10, 08:27
Dude, do you realize what Reakktor went through? They are fortunate to still be around!

kane
04-03-10, 17:14
Well I noticed they ruined BP forever its a cash shop game.

Biglines
04-03-10, 18:04
hmm, free-to-play isn't bad as long as the cashshop items are just decorational (as in, no advantage over other gamers in direct fights)

that said, neocron 3 free-to-play? :P

Nidhogg
04-03-10, 18:28
Well I noticed they ruined BP forever its a cash shop game.
Please do me a favour and reserve judgement on that until you know a bit more... That's all I ask. What have you got to lose? ;)

N

[K1]Luke
04-03-10, 18:36
that said, neocron 3 free-to-play? :P

Let's pray :angel:

In all honesty I haven't kept up to date with BP, it looks like a good game but other than NC and WoW I don't have much time for other MMO's, I'm just wondering if you guys aren't charging by the month will the money you get from, what I presume is, buying in-game items for real money really be enough to keep the game running?

It's a great undertaking and would give you a legendary status (at least to those who haven't tasted Neocron :P) in the MMO world if you can pull it off, so good luck with that :angel:

kane
04-03-10, 19:26
Please do me a favour and reserve judgement on that until you know a bit more... That's all I ask. What have you got to lose? ;)

N

I lost Allods Online :P TBH you may say what will I lose but if I lose BP then I lose a lot. I'm a guy who plays MMORPG's as his 2nd Hobby and that the first being ATVing ;) So yes I do have a life lol.

I want BP and even this so called Neocron 3 to work out. But F2P grrr even the good ones always tricked me in the end lol.

But I will wait and find out before I even tell anyone about how I hate the idea. I'm always willing to give someone a chance.

CMaster
04-03-10, 21:31
Luke']Let's pray :angel:

In all honesty I haven't kept up to date with BP, it looks like a good game but other than NC and WoW I don't have much time for other MMO's, I'm just wondering if you guys aren't charging by the month will the money you get from, what I presume is, buying in-game items for real money really be enough to keep the game running?

It's a great undertaking and would give you a legendary status (at least to those who haven't tasted Neocron :P) in the MMO world if you can pull it off, so good luck with that :angel:

The most profitable MMOs out there use a no sub/real cash buys ingame items setup. Of course, the most profitable ones have no limits on what you can spend, along the lines of Project Entropia and several chinese MMORPGs where you can sink as much cash as you like into ingame currency. Even beyond that, free to play and "micro" transactions for small ingame items has generally been shown to be more profitable than the traditional subscription model.

kane
04-03-10, 21:40
The most profitable MMOs out there use a no sub/real cash buys ingame items setup. Of course, the most profitable ones have no limits on what you can spend, along the lines of Project Entropia and several chinese MMORPGs where you can sink as much cash as you like into ingame currency. Even beyond that, free to play and "micro" transactions for small ingame items has generally been shown to be more profitable than the traditional subscription model.


I hope they don't do so called bad research like a lot of the asian ones claim to have done. I have ran some private servers and for legal reasons I will not talk about what and how and why. But I have run them and I can tell you the small things especially the convenient things is what sells.

For example a portal to take you to certain areas or faster out of combat regen and things like that. The things that cause many people to quit are the ones that give you advantages over other people.

Yeah some will buy it but you also lost your player base and a lot people don't know it does not cost you 10000's to run servers most can be done with 500-1000 bucks and that's counting backup systems and such. Of course if you have 1,000 and 1,000 of players that does of course scale up but in the end also becomes cheaper since MMORPG's don't use much bandwidth per user especially when your counting AVG's out.

Anyways I think to much I have no job and bored :P


Anyways Neocron 3 I hope it becomes true but I have no hope :(

Aeon Blur
04-03-10, 22:07
I know alot of us are frustrated with NC & Reakktor, for whatever reasons you have. We players are a hard lot to please really. Our tastes and flavor of play is a difficult dish and the recipie for our pallate is an acquired one.
But, in the end, what may turn out to be the best for NC3 is, as the letter tells us, a completely focused BP effort. From what I gather, they have half or less the dev staff of similar companies doing similar things, and with it they gave us Neocron.

Sometimes, you just have to wait until the Chef is done with the table next to you, munching on breadsticks and enjoying the view.
...I'll have the Plasma Cannon, extra crispy. And the Pulselaser, medium rare...

ncelite
04-03-10, 22:12
nc 1 feeling without the bugs exploit and new graphic and a new netcode.. i dont want more :rolleyes:

Dru Blood
06-03-10, 16:11
I agree with ncelite, perhaps also f2p to get the populations booming

Zebul
08-03-10, 17:09
I say they should do whatever they have to do to guarantee their success for now. It sounds as if the success of BP may bring NC3 in line as their next project. If that's the case then focus on BP!

[K1]Luke
08-03-10, 17:53
I say they should do whatever they have to do to guarantee their success for now. It sounds as if the success of BP may bring NC3 in line as their next project. If that's the case then focus on BP!

I couldn't agree more. Most people know that NC will run off the back of BP (or at least for a while) so it only seems smart to focus on BP, make it a big success then use the reputation you get from BP to help launch a new Neocron, or at least to help promote a new patch etc.

Richard Slade
10-03-10, 18:16
By God I will believe until day the MJS himself comes here and says it's fake.

Dru Blood
16-03-10, 12:57
Could be interesting to see Neocron converted into a F2P mmo, with decent marketing and signup process, perhaps some changes to the way weapons and xp are earnt, and maybe an item mall.

I would like to see Neocron continue, and not sit idle or dormant whils BP has its glory.

phunqe
16-03-10, 13:31
By God I will believe until day the MJS himself comes here and says it's fake.

Complemented with a nice flash promo by CDV :lol:

Dribble Joy
16-03-10, 20:27
CDV
HSSSSssssssss....

phunqe
17-03-10, 13:04
I apologize, I should have -censored- that part :p

Praetorian
18-03-10, 04:39
For mentioning CDV, Phunqes TGM membership is being reviewed as we speak o_O

Nidhogg
18-03-10, 13:12
It looks like one or two of the Neocron factions live on as they appear to be around (in one form or another) in Black Prophecy. ;)

N

Garfield
18-03-10, 15:00
It looks like one or two of the Neocron factions live on as they appear to be around (in one form or another) in Black Prophecy. ;)

N
what about "Snack-a-Tack" ?? or at least fresh BP screenshots/Vid for the NC com only :D

nabbl
18-03-10, 16:05
better watch the new BP trailer..

AWESOME!

Geist-[uTw]-
18-03-10, 18:00
Yeah...especially the free to play notice freaked me out :rolleyes: :D

zii
19-03-10, 17:21
Just downloaded it and watched it. Very nice, but I would have to buy a new PC to play it. I'm off to roll a bank.