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Kirk Lenke
06-11-09, 16:07
As some of you might have already heard, the insolvency proceeding of Reakktor Media’s assets has been abrogated. I don’t have to tell you how relieved we are and on behalf of the whole team I would like to thank you for your support, your loyalty and all the congratulations we have received from you.

The first question you will ask, for good reason, is what will now happen to Neocron. First of all I would like to apologize for remaining silent for such a long time and for not informing you earlier about the insolvency abrogation. I still want to avoid serving you half-baked facts and only speak out when I actually have something to say.

As I have already stated in my previous post, the focus was set to Black Prophecy as this project is crucial for the preservation of the company and its jobs, but also to ensure the continuation of the Neocron project. In this case Neocron had to take the back seat as harsh this might sound for some of you. Against all odds and some voices, who advised us to simply let Neocron rest in peace, we came out on top and kept Neocron alive.

Now, as we are independently operational again, the primary goal is to get the business processes back up and running. Among others, this includes the reactivation of the previously suspended payment options, like e.g. PayPal and to make further payment options available if required. Though, the payment will only be re-activated after we have put Neocron back in the right way with technical and content-wise updates, thus we are planning an according patch.

To enable a long-term future for Neocron, but also to lay foundation for a possible Neocron 3, we consider these measures as necessary. We assume to be able to provide the reactivation of the payment options and the deployment of said patches within the next three months.

Of course you will be informed immediately when I am able to share more information on this matter.

With this in mind,
Yours Kirk

Biglines
06-11-09, 16:30
yay, good news on the patch, so the rumours were true after all ;)

and may I humbly request a 3rd party anticheat tool be integrated with neocron? or at least currents cheats be disabled (as far as I hear it's simply a matter of locking some files again)

also, maybe get the developers to actually talk to the community in a discussion, the community is small enough now

And I assume the fee will remain 5 euros a month like it was before the insolvency?

Dribble Joy
06-11-09, 17:23
Sex in your naughty holes :D.

Is there a new publisher in the pipeline or you guys taking things solo now?

Zheo
06-11-09, 18:17
I'm glad to see you've come out of the Fog-o-doom. Best wishes for the future for both BP and NC3.

L0KI
06-11-09, 18:52
dammit dammit dammit!!!

Looks like I'll make a return to NC again.....

RAH!

Great news though Kirk + co. :)

CrushOr
06-11-09, 19:09
[ Edited ]

Biglines
06-11-09, 19:18
[ Edited ]
looks like the next banhammer victim... [ Edited ]

Brammers
06-11-09, 23:58
Kirk, how long has NC being going for? A lot longer than a lot of some of the bigger MMORPG's out there. In otherwords, don't ever listen to the words that say NC is dead ever.

I look forward to the next patch, to Black Prophecy....and also to NC3 :D

Trilaac
07-11-09, 01:02
huzzah!

The fallen shall rise again.

I have some suggestions and ideas left over from my own MMORPG we started making, but a game came out before with similar ideas.. bah I say!

got any space for more devs?

Kalonji Faya
07-11-09, 01:41
can't wait for patch 169 :)

fix Holy drone booster !! :lol:

Kalonji

Setlec
07-11-09, 02:04
this is a great news... I hope that you guys won't be owned by some other publisher like 10tacle... I also interested in the NC 3, make cross platform this time, please! at least MAc OX and linux will be just fine...

Tratos
07-11-09, 02:59
Much <3

Awesome News - Thank You!

Jaxx.
07-11-09, 03:29
God, NC 3. DO_IT_NOW.

Seriously, good luck guys.

LiL T
07-11-09, 05:56
Cool.

Make hybrids viable again.

Make heavy combat PE's viable again

fix noob drones

get the cheating under control again.


I look forward to a NC3.

Strife
07-11-09, 07:25
So it's going back to pay2play for all accounts?

Either way what's going to change, there's a few patches here and there again? What about the population, getting new players in, -proper advertisement. What i'm trying to say, what's going to be different this time, or will it be the same old game with a low population?

Not trying to be negative or 3rd degree anyone from KK who decides to answer, i'd just like to know if it will be anything worth coming back to.

HOG
07-11-09, 10:22
This is excellent news. Be sure to evaluate the game very well and create a patch that will mean a lot to the game and community. People will stay/come back if its worth it.

Kalonji Faya
07-11-09, 10:26
I heard a rumour saying NC3 should probably use BP 3d engine ? is it right ?!
anyway, just can't wait for new content !!

Kalonji

Jipz
07-11-09, 16:11
sounds exciting
Please fix slasher and other pistols, they just suck as hell...
Look at the exec with its 113 dex and its 30 damage to a tank lawl...
Allow pes to be a jack of all trades as it used to be and make apus viable again :o

Nikabolokov
07-11-09, 18:22
NC3, oh my.

If it did come about, I would need no more games, ever!

Dribble Joy
07-11-09, 18:43
Allow pes to be a jack of all trades as it used to be
Not wanting to derail the thread, but PEs were never JoaTs.

A JoaT can do near enough anything to a certain degree. What PEs have is the ability to pick from multiple paths and specialise in them. They can attempt to do multiple things, but they would be less than Jacks at them and would be largely unviable as a character.

The problem with PEs at current is their in ability to specialise in paths that were previously open to them, namely HC and MC. Being able to go APU with a PE would be nice too.

Sydalesis
07-11-09, 22:23
NC3, oh my.

If it did come about, I would need no more games, ever!

Ill take a lifetime subscription to NC3

silent000
08-11-09, 23:23
This is exactly what I needed to boost me up. I dont think I have ever been this excited over a computer game. Back soon I think I may have to releive myself in the bathroom... ;)

Seriously though thats fucking great!

Nvidia
09-11-09, 01:11
Congratulations guys! This is the best news I've heard all year in regards to MMOs (besides the announcement of BP). Can't wait to get my hands on BP, and I will keep my fingers crossed that you guys can port Neocron to the same engine at a later date. Either way, bring on the updates! You'll have a subscription from me on both games as soon as you allow us to make them. :)

CHA0S
09-11-09, 12:06
GET THE TISSUES!!!! its gonna get messy

Viper 911
09-11-09, 17:44
Looks Like it could be time to get the band back together.
Great news for all of us, brings a tear to my eye, or maybe a panda!

RogerRamjet
10-11-09, 02:10
NC3 could be fantastic. It would be a second (or third?) chance for the game, and if the dev team work hand in hand with the community (not saying they will, they have to, or that it's a good idea for that matter!) they have an incredible opportunity to take the best elements of the game from both NC1 and NC2, add to it and perhaps finally reach the potential anyone who has been ever played NC knows it has.

Good luck to you guys. Will certainly be keeping a close eye on the game once more, as I'm sure many people will be!

Apocalypsox
11-11-09, 08:42
NO ONE CALLED APOC WHEN THIS ANNOUNCEMENT WAS MADE!

Now, the first order of business gentlemen.

Combat Mechs. And cigarrettes.
And fix the rare market, and my warbot hunting :(

HOG
11-11-09, 18:36
Not paying for anything until the cheating situation is sorted out!

Rambus
11-11-09, 22:56
Congrats! You guys are a resilient bunch :)

Some easy wins for your patch:

- Release any reserved apartment keys. ( I recall having gms show me a swanky ones never released as keys, reserved for special quest rewards? )
- Change a zoneline rule to move the daily battles from p2/p1 to *any* other zoneline.
- Re-release old/cut content with those apt keys as loot, or any sort of new exciting item. (even woc disks that don't require a hacker?). The forbidden Outzone sectors, the old Regents or any others I have forgotten about. Entrances don't need to make sense, a hatch in the desert would keep players happy.

Good luck.

Okran
12-11-09, 14:25
Hooooray! Excellent news for all!! Congratz to KK and us the community for keeping it together, the persistance has paid off.

I'm just llooking forward to things one step at a time, first the patch and a stop to all the blatent cheating going on - it shouldn't take 3 capped people ten mins to kill a PE who is standing still laughing in our faces.

Doc Holliday
12-11-09, 17:17
Not wanting to derail the thread, but PEs were never JoaTs.

A JoaT can do near enough anything to a certain degree. What PEs have is the ability to pick from multiple paths and specialise in them. They can attempt to do multiple things, but they would be less than Jacks at them and would be largely unviable as a character.

The problem with PEs at current is their in ability to specialise in paths that were previously open to them, namely HC and MC. Being able to go APU with a PE would be nice too.


doesnt matter that they arent GOOD at them but the fact that they CAN do them. so your arguement is pretty much invalid. and next time dont derail the thread. :)

Biglines
12-11-09, 17:29
seeing as pe's can still do everything, his point is pretty valid, they just suck real bad at it

zii
13-11-09, 00:54
What merveillos news.

Congratulations & regards KK for surviving this and keeping NC up and running.

This news gives me a good reason to invest in a better games orientated computer, because if I could not NC I know that I would not play anything else, unless it was extremely similar to NC.

This really has perked me up.


Etymology: marvellous
First attested from 1300, from Old French, from merveillos, from merveille a wonder.

baracoder
13-11-09, 18:43
... I also interested in the NC 3, make cross platform this time, please! at least MAc OX and linux will be just fine...

As long it would run on wine (like Neocron 2 does now), it should be ok also. ;)

Eddie Murphy
14-11-09, 02:43
This is the best new i have heard in ages and well done kk for keeping it going and well done to the Neocron Players for also keep it running and subs might be back ok thats cool.

All the best for now.
Eddie

phunqe
14-11-09, 21:36
If NC2 is patched up and there are plans for NC3 (even far away) I might actually start playing again.
I have this screaming urge... must... fulfill... arghhhh.

I have tried so hard. So hard to find something... Nothing can fill the void :(

FE is nice. But it's just that... "nice". No free PvP, no clanwars, no outposts (clan based). The whole free PvP and faction/soullight system is great in NC.

phunqe
15-11-09, 15:17
A follow up concern... I've been told that there's a lot of cheating and duping going on in NC at the moment. If you patch you might stop this, but people will basically already have what they need for the next hundred years.
This will come off as quite unfair for us who might decide to start playing again. Well actually, it will decide IF I start again or not. I'm not going to start over after like 2 years of not playing and go up against a server with appartment after appartment filled with dupes.

Biglines
15-11-09, 16:21
don't think you have to worry, duping is not as much a problem as it only involves money. The in game economy is fine if you pay with unressed parts, or find a proper trader like loose wire/live wire. Weapons and armour can not be duped, so the weapons still have to be bought from traders. Personally i find the weapons mostly a bit expensive, but that should level out if populations rise again and new traders start appearing.

so in conclusion, don't worry about the in game economy, yes there are some people with huge stocks of things, but if there's an influx of people, the traders will came back too and pull customers away from current traders.

the cheating however is a problem, which I hope the developers will realise is the number one priority for the patch

naphead
16-11-09, 18:11
GOD! Just when I was getting over not playing Neocron. DAMMIT!!

L0KI
16-11-09, 18:57
I know I have already responded, but this really is excellent news.

I can't wait to introduce this, and BP to my friends when it's in a more 'cared-for' state.

Well done KK - you deserve another break. :)

rob444
19-11-09, 02:29
40 people... in reakktor..?

What the hell have they been doing the past 9 years? :eek:

Jipz
19-11-09, 03:17
40 people... in reakktor..?

What the hell have they been doing the past 9 years? :eek:

lol I'd like to know:)

Drevious
19-11-09, 21:12
This is the best news since they announced that the floating tree in sector h_10 has been fixed. But in all seriousness, this is good news lol.

Model192
24-11-09, 05:51
Should've always focused cron and locked down a whole industry

Strife
28-11-09, 12:05
You mean genre?

Model192
30-11-09, 02:07
no. companies lock down industries.

fantasy mmo market/industry
korean mmo market/industry
cyberpunk mmo market/industry
space mmo market/industry

Biglines
30-11-09, 13:07
generally an industry is a commercial branch that produces something in a sector (ie games), while a market is more specific, depending on what kind of users. So in this case market would be more appropriate, but then again, this could be some language difference ofc, we learn it's markets, might as well be industry for u

(they call it the games industry, music industry after all)

Setlec
30-11-09, 19:38
@model192: Biglines is damn right! by saying that "fantasy mmo market" = "industry" you are damn wrong and ignorant in the matter (i'm not saying this to offend you but to educate you!)... gaming industry is part of "entertainment industry" such as music, movie industry. A market in the gaming industry is for instance MMO market, FPS market (i'm not so sure if that is correct though), RPG market, and so goes the list of the markets within the gaming industry.

Drake6k
30-11-09, 20:40
Checking these forums every month or so to see what's up.. and Ah HAH! This is good news. Fuck yes!!

Neocron will always be my home, I grew up here, as soon as Black Prophecy comes out (or Neocron3) I'll be here (or there, whatever).

On paying a subscription, I didn't really play Neocron for all the time it's been free.. the servers are empty and there is a pretty bad cheating problem.. Neocron2 would take quite a lot of revamping to salvage right now.. I don't want Neocron to die but I don't really want to login either, it's ironic.

NicoTron77
04-12-09, 13:01
Bugfixing. That's all that counts now imo.

Report all the bugs you know, and how they are reproducable.

I guess exploits use bugs most of the time, too.

Ka0s^
12-12-09, 12:05
This is great news but i wanna echo what alot of other have said, fix the cheating.

Not too hard to implement, simply scanning for modified .dlls on the client would do it. Also GM involvement like back in the day, when GMs would just appear even if it was just to see how things are, you always felt like they might be watching.

ariall
14-12-09, 22:43
:D Neocron never dies!!!!!! :D

Couldn't believe my eyes when I was reading this tread!
KK, succes with BP and hopefully there is a neocron 3 in
a few years!
Its a really tough job for such a small company like KK,
how long is NC running now? 10 years including the NC-beta?

Doc Holliday
23-12-09, 07:51
any news on this?

Biglines
23-12-09, 17:58
that would mean communication on kk's part, plus its holiday now so they prolly dont even work

sanityislost
05-01-10, 04:13
A possiblity of NC3!?!? Dammit I'm really baked hope I remember this in the morning!

SiL ..:..

Biglines
23-01-10, 18:00
as we're approaching the "within 3 months", and as usual have heard nothing whatsoever from KK, can we take it that as usual nothing is happening?

Dr Phil
23-01-10, 18:38
as we're approaching the "within 3 months", and as usual have heard nothing whatsoever from KK, can we take it that as usual nothing is happening?
Dont tell me that it actually surprises you? :rolleyes:

Biglines
23-01-10, 19:30
Dont tell me that it actually surprises you? :rolleyes:
no, thats what the usual's were for ;)

i must say, I have never seen a company with worse communication skills than kk

Dr Phil
23-01-10, 20:55
i must say, I have never seen a company with worse communication skills than kk
Me neither.

KK really seems to have a "we dont give a fuck" attitude about NC.
But hey, its been like that for quite some years now.

Nidhogg
23-01-10, 21:31
Thank you. You've made your point.

You will see some movement soon but until then please continue to enjoy Neocron for free.

N

Biglines
23-01-10, 21:39
Thank you. You've made your point.

You will see some movement soon but until then please continue to enjoy Neocron for free.

N
actually it was a genuine request for any kind of communication... I mean, why bother patching without communicating with the community? from what I've seen in the past, the problem why people aren't happy with the state of neocron is because the dev's don't communicate, from what I hear none of the devs actually play the game?

Apocalypsox
24-01-10, 06:09
You can't complain much. It's free.

Biglines
24-01-10, 13:21
You can't complain much. It's free.
I'd be more than willing to pay for a properly run game, I paid for the initial game and subscription fees as long as I could. I'm asking for information on a promise they made. I'm not complaining about the fact that the game is run for free, but about the lack of communication, which has nothing whatsoever to do with whether the game is free or not.

Apocalypsox
25-01-10, 00:01
Pretending you know better, eh?

They've barely conquered insolvency, give em a break.

Biglines
25-01-10, 01:48
it has nothing to do with giving them a break for being almost insolvent. If they would just say "hey sorry, we're running late", I'd be perfectly fine with that. I just hate that they don't communicate at all

hell, they aren't as big as ea, so customer satisfaction could possibly have saved them from going insolvent in the first place, I mean, I don't think even 50% of KK's customers over the years is satisfied.. a lot of people left because of bugs and cheats, not just because it's old.

as for "knowing better", I know how other companies treat their customers, and so I know I can expect a lot better than this... The fact that even the mods don't know what's going on or are not allowed to tell is very strange imho...

but as one of the mods has at least confirmed "something" is going on, I'll stop now, feel free to remove this post if it offends someone

Dr Phil
25-01-10, 01:53
I wont say anything more in this thread. Since all i have to say about KK and the matter of this "patch" they has been talking about, will get me a warning or worse.

Breakaway
02-02-10, 11:31
Great news, I will be keeping a eye on this thread and on the forums. Good luck for the future KK
Dave

Biglines
07-02-10, 00:27
Seeing as it is now exactly three months later, I would like to respectfully request a status update, or even any type of communication from KK. This is mostly because it was said within 3 months, not in 3 months or after 3 months.

I get that you are delayed, but it would be good to know that you actually take us seriously enough to at least inform us of a delay, if not the reason for it (I will not assume an actual date will be provided)

Nullvoid
07-02-10, 16:28
Seeing as it is now exactly three months later, I would like to respectfully request a status update, or even any type of communication from KK. This is mostly because it was said within 3 months, not in 3 months or after 3 months.

I get that you are delayed, but it would be good to know that you actually take us seriously enough to at least inform us of a delay, if not the reason for it (I will not assume an actual date will be provided)

If you read it again you'll see they used sufficiently vague wording that they can't really be held to any specific date or timeframe really:


We assume to be able to provide the reactivation of the payment options and the deployment of said patches within the next three months.

Gits. :(

Biglines
07-02-10, 17:49
yeah, I've never assumed they'd ever be ready to actually do as they vaguely indicated in this time frame, I'm just requesting a status update to indicate some kind of activity or reasoning.

Kanedax
10-02-10, 05:05
I understand you guys have to be all top secret about the patches and stuff but seriously can we at least get a progress update or an ETA? Like a general time frame? Say, March, or April you know something like that?

I love you guys and this game you made but sometimes trying to deal with you is like swimming with 20 lb weights attached to my penis. Or e-peen in this case.

Brammers
10-02-10, 12:03
Looks like I got some new definitions to add to the KK time (http://wiki.techhaven.org/KK_Time) entry on the wiki then! :p

An update on what's happening with the patch and payment options would be great!

Zheo
10-02-10, 15:09
Looks like I got some new definitions to add to the KK time (http://wiki.techhaven.org/KK_Time) entry on the wiki then! :p

An update on what's happening with the patch and payment options would be great!

ReaKKtor Time Actual Time
Within 3 months Within 3 years.

Seriously though, I think by now everyone would know that Reakktor and communication are incompatible, it'll be released when and if it's finished, assuming they've started it.

Now that I think about it when they said "Within three months." maybe they meant from the time they start working on it, in which case, they may not have got round to working on the patch.

Jodo
10-02-10, 23:46
Just the ability to create a new account with PayPal would please me currently. Even Click2Pay isn't an option for a new account at the moment.

Kanedax
03-03-10, 21:52
And the KK information Black Hole begins?

Biglines
28-03-10, 11:35
just thought I'd say it's now been almost 5 months without so much as an official message or indication that any sort of progress is made?

Dr Phil
28-03-10, 13:15
just thought I'd say it's now been almost 5 months without so much as an official message or indication that any sort of progress is made?
You didnt actually expect that they would do anything at all, did you? 8|

lince
28-03-10, 20:35
I will certaintly support a new NC 3 - bring it on!



Elle x

DARK_Overfiend
29-03-10, 02:49
if you're gonna go for a Neocron 3. do a Game Engine update... possibly use youre next games engine with it. (black prophecy) i think its called.

you need more stable game engine. i know the one weve played on for years is becoming a little way outdated.

---

but its good to hear some good news for youre company and the development sides.

Apocalypsox
13-05-10, 04:31
Oh, yeah. I forgot about this.



WHERE THE UNHOLY FUCK ARE MY COMBAT MECHS!?!?!?! NC3 BETTER HAVE MY FUCKING MECHS! I WANT TO PUNCH WARBOTS IN THE FACE


//edit. As you can tell, I am currently having withdrawals from my mech games. Carry on.

Strife
27-05-10, 00:17
Game engine and netcode are fine.

Biglines
27-05-10, 00:58
Game engine and netcode are fine.
that is sarcastic I hope?

Dr Phil
27-05-10, 13:23
Game engine and netcode are fine.
Haha good joke! :rolleyes:

Zefrian
27-05-10, 18:10
that is sarcastic I hope?it depends on what you are doing ingame ;)

Biglines
27-05-10, 18:59
it depends on what you are doing ingame ;)
the only people happy with nc's netcode are hackers or people who have no idea what netcode is ;)

Zefrian
28-05-10, 15:00
@Biglines: you forgot non-fighting-roleplayers and traders and people happy with creating nice apartements. ;)

Dr Phil
28-05-10, 15:29
@Biglines: you forgot non-fighting-roleplayers and traders and people happy with creating nice apartements. ;)
In the servers current state, those people can (and are), loose items too, in the mini-rollbacks..

And for us who enjoy PVP, we gotta live with both the server.....
And the people who shall not be mentioned, who are doing what shall not be mentioned......


IMO NC is pretty much unplayable at the moment.. :(

Cirith MS
28-05-10, 17:22
In the servers current state, those people can (and are), loose items too, in the mini-rollbacks..

And for us who enjoy PVP, we gotta live with both the server.....
And the people who shall not be mentioned, who are doing what shall not be mentioned......


IMO NC is pretty much unplayable at the moment.. :(

Wow, that is pretty sad to hear to be honest. Neocron always has and will hold a specail place in many of our hearts.

Morpheus
28-05-10, 18:36
Wow, that is pretty sad to hear to be honest. Neocron always has and will hold a specail place in many of our hearts.
w0rd!

Cirith MS
28-05-10, 18:53
I have been wanting to come back for a while and bring a few friends with me but have been having issues with my old account.

It really is amazing seeing that Neocron has stood the test of time from NC1 Beta to Current.

On that note Best of luck with the New MMO!

Strife
05-06-10, 20:42
that was huge sarcasm on my part btw :P

flib
06-06-10, 16:04
Oh good..

daughterolilith
21-06-10, 03:17
I had a look at your new game site and it doesn't really interest me since it's just about spaceships no people, I really liked how you could explore Neocron how big it was and see giant monsters and things it was kind of like a multiplayer version of Fallout 3 but with much more badass mutant things (though the special effects not as good :p ) without the crappy american setting ... though that's just the short version of why Neocron was nice... I wrote more here: http://forum.neocron.com/showthread.php?p=2166116#post2166116

Voldemort
05-08-10, 15:32
NO WAY, NEOCRON WAS THE BEST GAME EVER, and with "was" i mean before all this bad patches that made it unbalanced and full of cheaters.
NC1 4ever

Dave_ThePe
22-08-10, 22:28
Good news for KK :D

Also NC3 Sounds good. How long till that comes out? ;)

Biglines
22-08-10, 22:54
Good news for KK :D

Also NC3 Sounds good. How long till that comes out? ;)
the patch that was promised never came (anti-cheat is great, but not what was promised, content was promised ;))

so nc3 will prolly never come

JohnGalt
10-09-10, 14:30
You have kept your word, you kept Neocron online a show of gratitude from me is in order, Thank-you Sir.

Now, about NC3;I know you were just thinking out loud in a potentially hopeful way with the assumption that the marketing projections and the refurbishing budget supports the profitability projections if a refurbishing budget can be devised etc, etc, etc...


Can we help rebuild? Ill sign a NDA, Confidentiality Agreement.


JG

JohnGalt
10-09-10, 18:56
You know, with some of the self-centered comments on how they should run their operation from the forum, I am surprised they even allow us to play and not just close NC down and re-market it later if they see it profitable.

I do not want a shut down:)

I loved this game from the start, more than any other, and I still love it now. I loved the simple efficiency of the Law Enforcer's introduction and the free play it allowed. I hated the Balance "Whining Arguing" Project and still found it silly that it consumed soooooo much time and resources.

Our friends (to those of us who see them as that) had their troubles and left the forum up, the game on, and from time to time they touched base with us. The insolvency (as been mentioned by Kirk Lenke) is working itself out and hopefully for the better of our NC developers and team leaving them in control (we could only hope).

These people need to run a business, feed their families; if Black Prophecy is the answer to their needs then I am with them. If a potential Neocron re-birth is in the future when they succeed with the Black Prophecy Project then I am going to DEFIANTLY support that. They have no reason to even consider us or OUR needs yet, Neocron is FREE for US to PLAY and all my accounts are intact.

With everything considered shouldn't the comments reflect something new and give up on the negative repeated issue(s) that we are ALL well aware of?
A continued badgering of those we would like to stay motivated toward a Neocron re-birth is a waste of time. With the pending Black Prophecy release being the current bread and butter project for the dev teams survival I think that our "continued patience" and support is important to everyone's future hopes.

If we loose the them we loose the only people who care about any issue that has been mentioned or yet to be mentioned.

Mr. Lenke, KK, Snowcrash, Nidhogg and the rest I have not mentioned listen to Brammers...


Kirk, how long has NC being going for? A lot longer than a lot of some of the bigger MMORPG's out there. In otherwords, don't ever listen to the words that say NC is dead ever.

I look forward to the next patch, to Black Prophecy....and also to NC3 :D

This is the attitude I think most of us hold. It is the attitude I will keep.

Congratulations to all of you for your soon to be Black Prophecy release. I will toss some of my $$.$$ into the kitty when you let her purrrrrr :angel:

Dribble Joy
19-09-10, 12:27
*Cough*

Any news on the patch?

Jodo
19-09-10, 22:04
***Breaking News***

It's being put to one side for now until more resources become available.



That would be my guess anyway

Izeo
25-09-10, 07:09
Could I just throw something out here?

Would anyone here really be upset if the next patch didn't contain a lot of content? Honestly? I would be happy if the next patch:
- Small amount of anti-cheat (wouldn't even have to be completely perfect yet)
- Some typos/grammar mistakes in quests
- Something small fixed such as removing WOC weapon mods/ammo from newbie Mc5 trader

We have been waiting so long for a patch that I almost get the feeling they are too pressured to make the patch so amazing and satisfactory that it is simply not possible.

I would be fine if the next patch just included some small fixes. I for one, do not even want new content. If new content means more quests and WoC-type things then no, I do not require new content. New content in this form leads to making older content obsolete, which is what other games do. I prefer things like tweaking existing stuff and creating a balance.

If a patch was released with just some small fixes, I would be completely fine with that and that would at least give us something tangible that shows us that the ball is rolling.

Anyone else feel the same way or does everyone require a patch with loads of new content?

Biglines
25-09-10, 09:34
Could I just throw something out here?

Would anyone here really be upset if the next patch didn't contain a lot of content? Honestly? I would be happy if the next patch:
- Small amount of anti-cheat (wouldn't even have to be completely perfect yet)
- Some typos/grammar mistakes in quests
- Something small fixed such as removing WOC weapon mods/ammo from newbie Mc5 trader

We have been waiting so long for a patch that I almost get the feeling they are too pressured to make the patch so amazing and satisfactory that it is simply not possible.

I would be fine if the next patch just included some small fixes. I for one, do not even want new content. If new content means more quests and WoC-type things then no, I do not require new content. New content in this form leads to making older content obsolete, which is what other games do. I prefer things like tweaking existing stuff and creating a balance.

If a patch was released with just some small fixes, I would be completely fine with that and that would at least give us something tangible that shows us that the ball is rolling.

Anyone else feel the same way or does everyone require a patch with loads of new content?
what you propose is far more than they even want to do with the next patch... they just wanted to encrypt communications, making it more difficult to hack with current hacks. that's it.

flib
25-09-10, 18:40
I would mind that, that would be totally lame. I want gameplay fixes, not spelling fixes. -_-

Biglines
25-09-10, 19:01
I would mind that, that would be totally lame. I want gameplay fixes, not spelling fixes. -_-
that too, who cares about spelling mistakes :S


except zii ofcourse :P

Dr Phil
26-09-10, 04:09
A patch that would fix hacking (what a joke - like that would work... (Not your fault KK, theres just alot of nolife idiots around)) and some balance adjustments (melee, apu, dissy and such) is all i would ever want from a patch.

Izeo
26-09-10, 07:37
I would mind that, that would be totally lame. I want gameplay fixes, not spelling fixes. -_-

Point taken, but my point was that... actually I didn't word mine well. Basically this is what I mean:

I fear that KK thinks that, we the community, expect/demand a patch equalling [----------------------this much----------------------] fixes/stuff put into it. What I'm saying is I would be fine with a patch with [---this much---] fixes/stuff put into it. Anything, as long as it's something positive of course. The point being to at least give us something to 'feel' that the ball is in motion and not waiting for some super-huge mega-patch. The suggestions were (bad) examples.

(And, just throwing this out here, actually, I also care about spelling/grammar mistakes. Immersion is surely a part of Neocron and even things such as lots of misspelled words and uncapitalized "i"s in conversation can pull you farther from that immersion)

Biglines
26-09-10, 11:00
(And, just throwing this out here, actually, I also care about spelling/grammar mistakes. Immersion is surely a part of Neocron and even things such as lots of misspelled words and uncapitalized "i"s in conversation can pull you farther from that immersion)

hmm, when I talk to real people, they generally don't speak correct english, why should npc's? :P

plus I don't think anyone with a sense of realism imagines KK doing anything more, if they cared about what people expected the game wouldn't be in it's current state. (and before the fanbois start saying it's all the fault of the publisher's insolvency and that KK is such great sports to let the servers run, the game hadn't been patched for 2 years before the insolvency, and the anti-cheat patch was a simple filecheck move, and a default encryption library added, nothing that should take MONTHS to implement nor debug)

Izeo
26-09-10, 20:29
Someone in real life might say, "I get it, thanks" ... you don't see capitalization or punctuation when someone speaks, but having a dialogue choice in Neocron be, "i get it. thx" is sad. Some of the dialogue is flawless, and some of it is like text-speak. Having NPCs use improper grammar to speak casually/realistically is not what I'm talking about.

Dr Phil
26-09-10, 21:43
Someone in real life might say, "I get it, thanks" ... you don't see capitalization or punctuation when someone speaks, but having a dialogue choice in Neocron be, "i get it. thx" is sad. Some of the dialogue is flawless, and some of it is like text-speak. Having NPCs use improper grammar to speak casually/realistically is not what I'm talking about.
Yea thats like.. TOTALLY gamebreaking!!


Seriously... Who cares? Spelling is the least of NCs problems..

Biglines
26-09-10, 21:52
and of course terra is back to rollbacks and crashes, would be too good to think they could actually fix something

Trilaac
26-09-10, 21:55
In fact, right now it's offline apparently.

many poeple have offered to change/edit little minor grammatical things adn the like, but it would require patches and downtime, etc, so they're not going to bother.

Izeo
26-09-10, 22:57
Dr. Phil, who are you quoting that said typos are "game-breaking"?

"It would require patches and such" - is that not what we are waiting for and talking about?

Dr. Phil/biglines, It was one example, you can't use one example to disprove an entire point ... my initial point was (again) completely lost, refer back to post #106 (http://forum.neocron.com/showpost.php?p=2168621&postcount=106)

edit: Actually, it seems everyone here is very negative/insults KK and if someone else does not "go on strike" with them, they get ridiculed. Doesn't seem healthy, guys.

Biglines
26-09-10, 23:43
Dr. Phil, who are you quoting that said typos are "game-breaking"?

"It would require patches and such" - is that not what we are waiting for and talking about?

Dr. Phil/biglines, It was one example, you can't use one example to disprove an entire point ... my initial point was (again) completely lost, refer back to post #106 (http://forum.neocron.com/showpost.php?p=2168621&postcount=106)

edit: Actually, it seems everyone here is very negative/insults KK and if someone else does not "go on strike" with them, they get ridiculed. Doesn't seem healthy, guys.
I'm not ridiculing you, I was abusing your posts to satisfy my own need to whine at KK ;).

hell it wouldn't suprise me if KK came out with a patch with just text updates and call it a content patch :S

and I get your point, and read my posts, what I'm talking about is that KK aren't "not patching" because they think we expect much, I'm saying they just don't do shit, don't communicate, don't fix. If anything, if they bring out a patch, it will disappoint everything, and what you said you would be glad with would be way more than will come out. You're still expecting way too much, they don't think we expect whole content patches, they try to get away with as little effort as humanly possible to retain enough people to one day make money again.

Strife
27-09-10, 06:42
and of course terra is back to rollbacks and crashes, would be too good to think they could actually fix somethingIf nothing changed in year 5, 6, 7, 8 ,9 why would you think it'd change in year 10? :P

I could accept "oh we're busy with our other game etc.", if it werent for the fact that KK has had a history of not getting much done, fixing near nothing, and if so it's a bandaid fix that still doesnt fix the original issue, just quarantines the issue.