View Full Version : [OT] Selling my body for money - worth the risk?
Ok well not exactly...
Clinical trials
http://www.cambridgeclinicaltrials.co.uk/uk-clinical-trials-all-indiv.php?trial_ids=1390
Here is the town in which is next to me, where my college is located, perfect !
200 - 2000 quid per trial.
Now, I understand for all this money, I'm surely putting my body at major risk?
Anyone done clinical trials in the past?
Reaction77
26-03-09, 02:26
Don't know if you can remember, but a couple of years ago there was this story on the national news.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4808836.stm
Personaly, I wouldn't do it, seems too risky for me.
Nobby, something tells me that you do anything to make money. ;)
Also before I go any further, I should add a little disclaimer - I have worked for a major pharmaceutical in my past (About 8-10 years ago), so my advice may be considered a little biased, however even knowing about clinical trials I wouldn't go on one.
Have a read of - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinical_trial which looks pretty ok, but ask someone (Maybe your Doctor) about it more.
Now for the reasons I wouldn't go on one, well ok the drug you would be testing may be safe in the short term and provide a cure, but think about possible long term side effects to yourself that they may not be able find in the clinical trials. You really want to risk things for that?
Also that website you linked to - why from my first impressions do I think that the site is done on the cheap?
I agree with Brammers' positing that you will do anything for money. Dude learn how to do some real work, get a real job, work hours and work hard. If you never understand that you have to bust your ass to be successful you never will be. Take that for what it's worth. Peace.
I say go for it. If possible, do several at once and post pictures of the combined side affects in this thread. I'll personally give you 10k if you grow an extra limb.
I have a college from work who do this stuff. He is perfectly healthy and he makes a hell a lot of money on it.
But maybe one day he'll have an extra pair of laser shooting eyes, who knows? It's up to you if you want to risk your health :p
I agree with Brammers' positing that you will do anything for money. Dude learn how to do some real work, get a real job, work hours and work hard. If you never understand that you have to bust your ass to be successful you never will be. Take that for what it's worth. Peace.
Well I was happily working 18 hour shifts for my dad until the beginning of the year slowdown started, he lost a contract and whenever I do get work, if i'm lucky... I get 40% less than what I used to anyway.
Because of where I live, lack of being able to drive, unable to afford any more fucking driving tests, I'm never doing that again, I can't get a job in the town 15 miles away.
Also I don't fancy working for a measily 4.60 an hour (if I'm lucky to get the job).
I got good money from gambling and trading (which I don't fancy doing again) then blew it all on a hopeful concept of a consumer electronics company, being scammed by EVERY supplier of mine, both UK and China.
So yeah, I'm desperate.
james_finn
26-03-09, 11:22
Well I was happily working 18 hour shifts for my dad until the beginning of the year slowdown started, he lost a contract and whenever I do get work, if i'm lucky... I get 40% less than what I used to anyway.
Because of where I live, lack of being able to drive, unable to afford any more fucking driving tests, I'm never doing that again, I can't get a job in the town 15 miles away.
Also I don't fancy working for a measily 4.60 an hour (if I'm lucky to get the job).
I got good money from gambling and trading (which I don't fancy doing again) then blew it all on a hopeful concept of a consumer electronics company, being scammed by EVERY supplier of mine, both UK and China.
So yeah, I'm desperate.
From what I know about clinical trials there is a small chance that you could be on a placebo, as they need a control group to check what is happening with the active group. However saying that I wouldnt want to risk any part of my body for money, no matter how much it was.
When I was 18 I was on £4 an hour, once you get through university (or an apprenticeship) you will earn a hell of a lot more money, imho enjoy being young and dont think that money is everything.
/Delphi
If possible, do several at once and post pictures of the combined side affects in this thread. I'll personally give you 10k if you grow an extra limb.
I'll do a £5k donation if you lose a limb. There; you're winning on all counts! :)
In all seriousness... No Nobby, clinical trials are not the way to make money. Neither is gambling. Trading, sure; if you know what you're doing.
Is there no come back from the money you had scammed from you?
I agree with James Finn; Money isn't everything.
Dribble Joy
26-03-09, 13:38
I agree with James Finn; Money isn't everything.
I think little nobby just wants to do something other than work 9-5 in an office.
he could become a legendary male slapper
That’s fair enough.
Ambition and determination are all well and good, but desperation is destructive.
Why not learn and expand upon a skill? Something you enjoy doing…
I work in an office, 8am - 5pm as a Business Compliance Analyst. It sounds remarkably dull, I know. It is.
Anyway, my point is, I earn myself extra money by running a game server provider with a friend. Neither of us knew what we were doing when we set it up. We learned everything we could, and went for it.
It’s consistently made thousands (albeit, low thousands) of pounds per year since 2007.
I do freelance web development work (again, self taught); making web sites & doing SEO for local businesses.
I now also write a column in my local newspaper; and I’m paid a (very) small sum for that.
I’m not telling you this to show off; I’m telling you because there are other ways to make money. Ways that don’t involve huge risk and low probability. Granted, your methods require very little skill/preparation, but in my experience, in the end - hard work always pays off.
My advice is; when something seems too good to be true, it often is. Take your Chinese scammers for instance; they ripped you off when the offer more than likely seemed too good to be true. The same applies with these clinical trials. Is a measly £200; or even £2000 worth potential permanent liver damage? It isn’t safe; or they wouldn’t be trialling it on you.
I just don’t want to see a post in the forum in three months time, entitled:
[OT]Nobby’s £200 profit and his yellowing mutated head
/rant.
Doc Holliday
26-03-09, 14:22
I just don’t want to see a post in the forum in three months time, entitled:
[OT]Nobby’s £200 profit and his yellowing mutated head
/rant.
why not? he could be a stunt double for sin city 2 and we would all want to know him then :)
You need to consider if the side effects they are looking for are stuff you are willing to have. Let me find some from my pills for you.
Metoclopramide
Severe allergic reactions (difficulty breathing, tightness in throat, rapidly spreading rashes, dizziness, very fast heart beat or even loss of consciousness)
impairment of voluntary movement
Itches, rashes, water retention
Irregular periods! Breast tenderness, expression of milk from the breasts, abnormal development of breasts in men (you may grow boobies, I keep hoping I do but no :()
Confusion, drowsiness and reslessness
Diarrhoea
Blood Disorders
A serious condition which is characterised by high body temp, muscle rigidity, increased involuntary movement or tremor and altered conciousness.
Depression
And thats just from 1 pill. My other pills side effect...
Increased appetitie and weight gain (that explains why I've put on 3 stone)
Somnolence
Dizziness
Headache
Retention of fluid
Feeling sick
reduced level of white blood cells accompanies with an icnreased infections-sensitivity, sudden high fever
severe sore throat and mouth ulcers
reduced level of red blood cells causing a pale appearance
fatigue and dizziness
reduced level of blood platelets accompanies with bruises and increased bleeding
excessive cheerfulness accompanies with a lot of energy (mania)
confusion
hallucinations
anxiety
insomnia
nightmares
reslessness
convulsions
tremor
sudden muscle spasms
tickling sensation
itching or twinkling (wtf is that?) without a reason
resless legs, feeling of reslessness or if you feel unable to sit of stand still
reduced blood pressure while standing uo
sudden apperance of unconsciousness
dry mouth
diarrhoea
vomiting
yellow colouring of eyes and skin, elevation of liver enzymes
skin eruption
joint pain, muscle pain
Christ thats a lot of side effects, if I didn't *need* to take my medication, there is no way on Earth I would for money.
Though I suffer badly from migraine (I had 1 or 2 a day, every day for a month recently, was hell on Earth) and I wouldn't even take pain killers for them, until my doctor told me to, and even then I'd sometimes... not. Though the medication they gave me for that had horrible side effects (loss of motivation) so I got taken off that.
So if you feel able to stand up to an insane amount of possible side effects, including having your penis fall off, and moobs, go for it, its up to you.
RogerRamjet
26-03-09, 18:47
Also I don't fancy working for a measily 4.60 an hour (if I'm lucky to get the job).
Nice attitude there. It's the same mind set people have who moan about "foreigners" taking their jobs. They think they're entitled to something better.
If you need money, really, you'll take any job. What this post says to me is you just don't want to have to work for it.
Also, was I the only one who was disappointed that this wasn't about nobby whoring himself out?
Nice attitude there. It's the same mind set people have who moan about "foreigners" taking their jobs. They think they're entitled to something better.
If you need money, really, you'll take any job. What this post says to me is you just don't want to have to work for it.
If you think it's fair to work in KFC for 10 hours for a measily 40 quid...
Working for my dad catering, I used to get 90-120 quid for approx 15-18 hours a day. That seemed fair to me.
Call me an arsehole, but I think I'm reasonable here.
Plus I can't even get to where the town is, No bus to take me except school bus in morning, which I doubt would accept me on.
The council gets me a taxi to my college because of no bus routes available.
I'll look at night shifts maybe at Tescos, petrol stations, etc... sure you get at least 1.5 pay for night.
You need to consider if the side effects they are looking for are stuff you are willing to have. Let me find some from my pills for you.
Metoclopramide
My other pills side effect...
Increased appetitie and weight gain (that explains why I've put on 3 stone)
Somnolence
Dizziness
Headache
Retention of fluid
Feeling sick
reduced level of white blood cells accompanies with an icnreased infections-sensitivity, sudden high fever
severe sore throat and mouth ulcers
reduced level of red blood cells causing a pale appearance
fatigue and dizziness
reduced level of blood platelets accompanies with bruises and increased bleeding
excessive cheerfulness accompanies with a lot of energy (mania)
confusion
hallucinations
anxiety
insomnia
nightmares
reslessness
convulsions
tremor
sudden muscle spasms
tickling sensation
itching or twinkling (wtf is that?) without a reason
resless legs, feeling of reslessness or if you feel unable to sit of stand still
reduced blood pressure while standing uo
sudden apperance of unconsciousness
dry mouth
diarrhoea
vomiting
yellow colouring of eyes and skin, elevation of liver enzymes
skin eruption
joint pain, muscle pain
Christ thats a lot of side effects, if I didn't *need* to take my medication, there is no way on Earth I would for money.
sounds like the NC pill
wouldnt do that nooby think about the long term risk do u want ill childs?
better do something in your neighboor hood like gardening or go shoping for old ppl sure thats "low paid" but at least its extra poket money
or get a job as sex chat admin/fakeladie or something like that
Dribble Joy
26-03-09, 20:07
Min wage is 5.73 you know...
or get a job as sex chat admin/fakeladie or something like that
Already looked, can only find shitloads of "female escort jobs"
Is the 5.73 for 18 year olds or 21?
Min wage is 5.73 you know...
IIRC £5.73 is the minimum wage for 21 year olds, it's set at 3 barriers 16, 18 and 21.
If you can get into retail i wouldn't be too concerned with the other minimum wage limits, as long as you're over 18 from my experience most shops will pay you at the minimum wage for 21 year olds as it just make it easier for them by the looks of it (Yearly wage changes, overtime, holiday pay etc etc). Atleast this is an experience i've shared with my mates who've worked in retail since we were 17/18.
What are the current rates of the national minimum wage?
There are three levels of minimum wage, and the rates from 1 October 2008 are:
* £5.73 per hour for workers aged 22 years and older
* A development rate of £4.77 per hour for workers aged 18-21 inclusive
* £3.53 per hour for all workers under the age of 18, who are no longer of compulsory school age
Source: http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/nmw/
Hope that helps nobby.
Dribble Joy
26-03-09, 20:16
Hmmm... (http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Employment/Employees/Pay/DG_10027201) I thought it was over a fiver. When I was 17 I got 5.02 at Tescos though and that was nine years ago. It depends on who you work for I suppose.
Fulltime and/or salary based pay is generally more than the minimum wage.
If you have a degree or formal qualifications above A-levels you should be able to find something. But bear in mind the current climate.
Man that's absolutely baffling. Here in the US minimum wage is 7.25 USD an hour for everyone. Your minimum wage system makes no sense to me :P But hell nobby, if you're so strapped for cash that you're this desperate you have to do what you have to do. But what you do needs to be rational and not a 'quick fix'. If you gotta work at KFC then work at KFC. There are people over her with Masters degrees in business delivering pizzas and shit and they do it because they have to.
William Antrim
26-03-09, 21:49
I used to work for a company that handled the data for clinical trials. Man some of those doctors (particularly the ones across the pond) were really not switched on when it comes to common sense!
That aside, i say milk it mate. You only live once and if the worst is gonna happen then youre in hospital anyway and they will fix you. Linking to that article (one episode of something going bad in i don't know how many millions of trials that are carried out around the world) is like saying don't drive because people get killed by cars.
Sorry but I don't mean to be obnoxious but if it was me I would take the money and let them poke me and prod me for all they wanted. I'm just a man whore i guess, not like hell demon though. Worse. :p
Ok well not exactly...
Clinical trials
http://www.cambridgeclinicaltrials.co.uk/uk-clinical-trials-all-indiv.php?trial_ids=1390
Here is the town in which is next to me, where my college is located, perfect !
200 - 2000 quid per trial.
Now, I understand for all this money, I'm surely putting my body at major risk?
Anyone done clinical trials in the past?
I took the very first job i was offered. Was doing 2 hours 6-8 on a morning in a frozen food shop, money was crap but it got me by. Applied to an agency that found me a job and they obviously take a cut of the pay and just grafted. After a while they realised i was a good worker and took me on a contract.
Then got promoted so went from about 9.5k to 12k a year. Then one of the m8's i worked with applied for a job within the company to which there were 2 positions and we both got it boosting our pay up to 15k. Now after working this job and gaining alot of experience i am now in a position to apply for jobs that pay 24k a year and thats part time :O
If you think it's fair to work in KFC for 10 hours for a measily 40 quid...
Working for my dad catering, I used to get 90-120 quid for approx 15-18 hours a day. That seemed fair to me.
Call me an arsehole, but I think I'm reasonable here.
Plus I can't even get to where the town is, No bus to take me except school bus in morning, which I doubt would accept me on.
The council gets me a taxi to my college because of no bus routes available.
I'll look at night shifts maybe at Tescos, petrol stations, etc... sure you get at least 1.5 pay for night.
Nobby, I live in Cornwall which is a tourist trap. Before minimum wage was introduced you could work 8 hours a day, 5 days a week and only bring home £60 a WEEK. Not me obviously, but a hell of a lot of youngsters.
You would see jobs advertised at £1.80 an hour, or even less, and people would take them, people would have to take them.
Of course, youngsters these days (god I'm fucking old to say that) have it easy, a minimum wage, a maximum working week, not allowed to work past midnight etc.
You may laugh at working at KFC but you shouldn't, if you can get into KFC and show you are a good worker, they will keep you on and you can work your way up through the ranks until you get a managment position, work after midnight and your pay goes up, work bank holidays and your pay goes up.
You are still young, but you should now be thinking about a pension, seriously, you should be sticking aside £1-2k a year into a pension fund, there is no guarantee you will get a proper pension when you hit (whatever the age will be, probably 75) because by then the government will need to find about £36 BILLION a YEAR just to pay retired government workers (think about how much each person will have to pay in taxes just to cover that).
You can't pick and choose your job anymore, no job is for life, what matters is getting the right experience and not getting your arse on the dole, you shouldn't care that you work 10 hours and only bring in £50 and not £500, you should care that you actually have a job whilst people who have worked at the same company for 30 years are about to get laid off.
You don't get anywhere without hard graft and without taking *every* opportunity possible, working at KFC is a possibility (and fills up your CV), trying to get an above min. job when you are so young and without as much experience as a guy 10 years older who is, along with 50 other people, applying for the same job as you, is not going to happen.
Even Alan Sugar started out small, selling TV ariels from the back fo a van, work hard, take whatever chances you can, don't look for the easy solution, look for the long term viable solution.
honestly, who really WANTS to work anyway? //Edit (if you have to)
wouldn't anyone be happy being rich for nothing?
and no, i dont think being a guinea pig is a solution. //Edit (the enlargement wont make you happy :rolleyes: )
kr morph
Reaction77
27-03-09, 07:45
You would see jobs advertised at £1.80 an hour, or even less, and people would take them, people would have to take them.Thats the cornish for you, :p.
But honestly, people don't realise how good they have it in this country. I'm 18 and getting min wage for 21+ in a pizza shop! Get into a Maccy D's or any greasy take away/ delivery place. If you are at college I don't know if night shifts would be good for you, but evening shifts were never a problem for me when I was studying and working. Just get your foot in the door and in those sort of places it doesn't take much to make you stand out from the crowd, then you can start asking for a little bit extra pay.
Also, was I the only one who was disappointed that this wasn't about nobby whoring himself out?Never mind, there's always Garfield!
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