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Dead Bodies
11-12-07, 18:52
Hello,

I have been trying to establish a website to upload my collected infomation. about neocron so others may take use of it. I am havng trouble with the HTML editors im downloading. ANyone have a suggestion on an editor thats FREE or near free that would work superbly technical and superbly simple wichever way i wanted to go at that time. IE ajusting the tags for a quick fix is easier then tearing it down manualy and build back up. Im not a pro but i consider myself a fast learner. any tips hits etc would be apprecaited.

*Brammers what do u use?*

Thanks
E&E

L0KI
11-12-07, 18:56
Adobe Dreamweaver 30 day trial ftw ;)

http://www.adobe.com/products/dreamweaver/

Dead Bodies
11-12-07, 18:57
Adobe Dreamweaver 30 day trial ftw ;)


I saw that its the 399.00 one to buy. is the 30 day trial going to give me full acess and allow me to publish my site or only play with it?

james_finn
11-12-07, 18:58
*Brammers what do u use?*


Im not quite Brammers, however any webcoder whose worth his weight in salt, will say notepad. Learn the basics and the write the HTML into notepad and save as *.htm. I would steer clear of the WYSIWYG editors like Dreamweaver, as you dont learn much and unless you know how to manipulate the tags then the site wont look too fantastic.

Brammers uses eclipse IIRC.

There is also some kind of notepad type of program called something like propad or equivalent, which will do context highlighting for the language you are using - failing that "vim" on Linux :D

/Delphi

Dead Bodies
11-12-07, 19:04
Im not quite Brammers, however any webcoder whose worth his weight in salt, will say notepad. Learn the basics and the write the HTML into notepad and save as *.htm. I would steer clear of the WYSIWYG editors like Dreamweaver, as you dont learn much and unless you know how to manipulate the tags then the site wont look too fantastic.

Brammers uses eclipse IIRC.

There is also some kind of notepad type of program called something like propad or equivalent, which will do context highlighting for the language you are using - failing that "vim" on Linux :D

/Delphi

write the codeing on notepad i can do but im still confused on placing example in the WYSIWYG editors i can switch from HTML editing and picture editing picture editing helps me setup borders backgrounds and placements. I can write the code i need but i am DUMMY on how to place it correctly. any sites or suggestions where i can beef up on codeing to get a bit more savvy?

Snedex
11-12-07, 19:04
Scintilla is a good one to start with for just writing html in a notepad environment, Includes code indentation and highlighting which is handy.

http://www.scintilla.org/SciTE.html

Else if you want to go down the Visual building of sites, go for either Adobe's Dreamweaver 30 trial as mentioned above or Microsoft's Visual Web Developer Express.

http://www.microsoft.com/express/vwd/Default.aspx

Personally I don't like Visual development of pages due to messy html.

EDIT: have a look here: http://www.w3schools.com/html/default.asp

Dead Bodies
11-12-07, 19:11
EDIT: have a look here: http://www.w3schools.com/html/default.asp[/QUOTE]

really like this thanks alot general tips on everything :)

Snedex
11-12-07, 19:16
np ;)

megavoid
11-12-07, 19:51
however any webcoder whose worth his weight in salt, will say notepad. Learn the basics and the write the HTML into notepad and save as *.htm.

Any webcoder whose worth his salt would say a decent text editor with syntax highlighting and subversion (or any other version control system) support. Learn the basics, write the code and save to *.html. :p


I would steer clear of the WYSIWYG editors like Dreamweaver.

I have done so about 8 years ago and never regreted it... your mind and your experience are more powerful than any WYSIWTF-editor that just shreds any well structured code and sets annoying, superflous tags... :D

Danny

P.S.: http://www.selfhtml.org/ (just german and french now... :( )
P.P.S.: If you just want to have a site and care more about content than coding yourself, get a content management or blog software like Joomla or Serendipity, put some new pics in the styles profile and you're up and running. Lazy me uses Serendipity with a modified styles profile (link to my site on the banner below).

james_finn
11-12-07, 19:56
The site I would have suggested was w3schools - very good for any common language :)

Voodoo_Magic
11-12-07, 19:56
Notepad++ is handy... Its freeware, might be opensource not sure

Highlights syntax's etc for C#/C++/HTLM/PHP/VB6, loads... cba to find full list

Just google away :)

Judge
11-12-07, 20:11
Oooh, it even has syntax highlighting for Haskell.

Something to try out in my Advanced Haskell module next semester.

Voodoo_Magic
11-12-07, 20:18
Oooh, it even has syntax highlighting for Haskell.

Something to try out in my Advanced Haskell module next semester.


Yea, we was advised to use it from day one :) ...

Used it for all my c# programs, its very handy

Dead Bodies
12-12-07, 00:12
Okay so i pulled out my notepad pulled up The site (http://www.w3schools.com/html/default.asp) and went to work. i got 3 nice pages going as of thus far. I am working/ confused on 2 things.

1. How do i establish limits/ boxes / locations. say i want to put a picture on the top right hand side or i want to set my login menu in the middle of the screene? how do i specify where it goes?

2. How do i establish a Login/ registar server? i have the Login /pass setup but it sends the info to html_form_action.asp (have no idea wtf that is) I want to be able to setup a registar page then have my members login to acess the infomation?

Thanks guys you've been lots help.

E&E

james_finn
12-12-07, 01:59
Okay so i pulled out my notepad pulled up The site (http://www.w3schools.com/html/default.asp) and went to work. i got 3 nice pages going as of thus far. I am working/ confused on 2 things.

1. How do i establish limits/ boxes / locations. say i want to put a picture on the top right hand side or i want to set my login menu in the middle of the screene? how do i specify where it goes?

2. How do i establish a Login/ registar server? i have the Login /pass setup but it sends the info to html_form_action.asp (have no idea wtf that is) I want to be able to setup a registar page then have my members login to acess the infomation?

Thanks guys you've been lots help.

E&E

For logins I recommend that you look at PHP programming - as for the rest i will leave it to other people to answer.

/Delphi

aKe`cj
12-12-07, 02:21
1. How do i establish limits/ boxes / locations. say i want to put a picture on the top right hand side or i want to set my login menu in the middle of the screene? how do i specify where it goes?

Look up "position" and "align" in your CSS manual of choice.


2. How do i establish a Login/ registar server? i have the Login /pass setup but it sends the info to html_form_action.asp (have no idea wtf that is) I want to be able to setup a registar page then have my members login to acess the infomation?

I somehow doubt your server features ASP - you can check wether it supports PHP (which is more likely) by creating a .php-file with a single line in it:


<?php
phpinfo();
?>

upload it to the server an call it with your browser.

... if you want to do this with PHP, working with "sessions" is the key. Anyway - I suggest you digg yer nose in PHP for a month or two before you start using it 'live'... in the meanwhile, you can simply use a .htaccess to pw-protect a directory in which you place your content.

Dead Bodies
12-12-07, 18:46
nose so far in the books if it had an ass i couldnt breath.

Thx guys