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I'm currently in the process of making a Map of pepper park 1, as it stands, the downstairs primary combat zone (outside club veronique) is practically done, since kk decided not to respond to my pleas for use of a texture bundle, I've stuck with as near as I could find in the CS:S texturebase. These are a set of early screenshots in spectator view, stay tuned for live combat screenies and more. Please post opinions/suggestions here.
http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/9006/test0001pj1.th.jpg (http://img258.imageshack.us/my.php?image=test0001pj1.jpg)
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/2785/test0002kv9.th.jpg (http://img411.imageshack.us/my.php?image=test0002kv9.jpg)
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/2104/test0003rk0.th.jpg (http://img183.imageshack.us/my.php?image=test0003rk0.jpg)
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/9644/test0004fq2.th.jpg (http://img516.imageshack.us/my.php?image=test0004fq2.jpg)
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/5185/test0005ou0.th.jpg (http://img516.imageshack.us/my.php?image=test0005ou0.jpg)
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/1015/test0006zy2.th.jpg (http://img263.imageshack.us/my.php?image=test0006zy2.jpg)
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/9857/test0007vz3.th.jpg (http://img442.imageshack.us/my.php?image=test0007vz3.jpg)
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/2555/test0008nl7.th.jpg (http://img442.imageshack.us/my.php?image=test0008nl7.jpg)
That's actually pretty good, nice work.
Aye thats very impressive ;) what made you pick pepperpark 1 tho may i ask? i would of thought pepper park 3 would be much nicer
PP1's where most o the action took place right before i slowed down playin nc, tubby suggested it
since kk decided not to respond to my pleas for use of a texture bundle, I've stuck with as near as I could find in the CS:S texturebase
Give this man his textures.
I say if Reakktor decides not to respond, we imitate the PP1 textures with PShop/Gimp and send them over to Herrad to package them.
Edit: That's of course if they are high enough quality and look professional enough to be used in the map!!
Nice work there, turn up the anti-aliasing! ;)
Hold on, the textures ARE serverside arent they??? :P
Powerpunsh
29-07-07, 14:42
Looks much better than the real PP1. :D
We need the source engine for NC. GOGOG!
Hold on, the textures ARE serverside arent they??? :P
in fact they are embedded in the map files, rather than having seperate libraries (quake/source engine).
I think the textures in use now look great - the whole thing looks superb in fact. I'm not sure the textures that are in use need replacing, to tell the truth.
What may possibly be an idea, is an attempt by the artistically inclined, helpful people to re-create the signs and posters used around PP. With those splattered all over the existing textures, I reckon it would feel just like the real PP.
Anything useful in the fansite kit?
ashley watts
29-07-07, 15:28
Very good work m8 :-)
What may possibly be an idea, is an attempt by the artistically inclined, helpful people to re-create the signs and posters used around PP. With those splattered all over the existing textures, I reckon it would feel just like the real PP.
Yeah that'd be really helpful, thats exactly what its missing, it needs a more scummy feel, if i got some o them, it'd darken the map too, which'd really give it the feel of being run by drug barrens etc :D
Would I be able to zonewhore so I dont lose my all artifact enlarged-enlarged-enlarged-advanced-enlarged-stabilized-enlarged-advanced-toxic-radiated mercuric-genotoxic-explosive-phosphor MP5?
Serious_Sam
29-07-07, 19:31
Herrad, fuck KK and they're second rate textures. Do it all in source and put them to shame. Nice designs though.
Hold on, the textures ARE serverside arent they??? :Pthat would certainly explain why nc is so laggy and buggy ;]
.. if it were true :x
Would I be able to zonewhore so I dont lose my all artifact enlarged-enlarged-enlarged-advanced-enlarged-stabilized-enlarged-advanced-toxic-radiated mercuric-genotoxic-explosive-phosphor MP5?
by all means :p what would a neocron map be without zonewhorage?
Herrad, fuck KK and they're second rate textures. Do it all in source and put them to shame. Nice designs though.
well if i were to get my hands on em, i'd probably only use the posters anyway
It IS Pepper Park 1, very impressive work. I should try CS now ....
UPDATE:
Things are fallin a little behind schedule because of the sheer size of the map, sectors that may have taken 10 mins to create and light are takin 4x that because its jus so difficult to see what I'm actually drawing, and scaling becomes a case of redoin it 4 million times to make it perfect, so as it goes, i'll try and release a few screenies of fights (any volounteers PM me) and plod along, upstairs SHOULD be done before friday, then club veronique done over t'weekend, then finally NF and touch ups done for next wed
Idea...
You could make cardboard cutouts with a active moving .GIF picture as texture on it of the dancers :p
The problem is with copyright, most textures are taken from someone else, very few people completely design their own from scratch. Original textures are hard to come by.. ((The original train boxes in outzone storage 7-8 were taken from team fortress, there was a thread about this years ago with screenshots from each game.))
I don't like the textures from this thread, pepper-park has its own charm right now, one that is familiar (probably my subjective dated opinion).
About the Half-life map, great work! I've tried to make plaza1 before and never finished the project.. well done, it looks good
tubby demanded his gr to be shot and put up GR Glory ---> tubby
I only asked if he was gonna screenie it, i didnt demand a thing honest... :)
Herrad if I upload some png files do you think you can use them as textures in the game, provided you think they are high quality enough to use?
neocron maps are pretty simplistic, geometry-wise, but duplicating in this detail it isnt easy. very nice work..
neocron source mod ?
Valve does have a MMO version of the Source engine. :)
I think it would be really cool if, once you finish PP1, you move on and add PP2 and PP3 to the map, so there would be a huge Pepper Park. :D
Oh dear god i wouldnt want to imagine how long that would take to compile, as it stands the map takes long to compile and we have to do it each time we want to test any changes we make on the map in CS:S. Although the map is coming along nicley original predictions may be off (Way off according to herrad).
Valve does have a MMO version of the Source engine. :)
I think it would be really cool if, once you finish PP1, you move on and add PP2 and PP3 to the map, so there would be a huge Pepper Park. :D
Wasn't that what the Hosile Planet TC was meant to be using?
Though I haven't heard much about that tc in a long time so its probably no longer being worked on.
specranator
01-08-07, 20:58
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they were moving along very well for awhile, then shut down... and now magically running again... although im sure its not going to be as good as it would have been.
Herrad if I upload some png files do you think you can use them as textures in the game, provided you think they are high quality enough to use?
go for it
neocron maps are pretty simplistic, geometry-wise
Really? no one told me :p
I recruited... or should i say he recruited himself, Delphi an old player who's as gay as they come, a good mapper though he's here tyo help with the GR atm, not sure if im gunna make it do anything, like maybe a random teleport, or leave it til ive done other areas of NC and have it teleport u between zones... NE way, heres sum screenies of VW shop and up stairs as it stands
solid-rock
02-08-07, 00:18
Ive been breaking my head trying to recognize that area in the 2 middle shots but i just cant figure it out. Oh and someone should put up some comparison shots from neocron for kicks.
its where gogo goes down stairs, not really clear without rest of map :p
Oh dear god i wouldnt want to imagine how long that would take to compile, as it stands the map takes long to compile and we have to do it each time we want to test any changes we make on the map in CS:S. Although the map is coming along nicley original predictions may be off (Way off according to herrad).
Well then make each separate then combine them when you're done. =O
you would still have to compile it after combining them :p
james_finn
02-08-07, 00:50
as herrad said he recruited me to the team, and well ive spent some time this evening working on a rough GR. The latest screenshot as which can be seen below (any critiques or comments about it woould be appreciated - and yes I know it isnt textured...)
you would still have to compile it after combining them :p
Yeah, like once.
I still wouldnt want to imagine how long it would take though, point still stands.
solid-rock
02-08-07, 01:46
as herrad said he recruited me to the team, and well ive spent some time this evening working on a rough GR. The latest screenshot as which can be seen below (any critiques or comments about it woould be appreciated - and yes I know it isnt textured...)
I wouldnt be surprised if you where acually able to outdo the original KK modelers :P.
*Watches and waits for Solid's 400th post* :p
solid-rock
02-08-07, 13:33
*Watches and waits for Solid's 400th post* :p
Foolish mortal 400 is but another number in an endless sequence it means nothing to me. Do you honestly believe i would make a spectacle of sutch a feeble effort!
Bute hey why not =SPAM!= (My mouse ran out of power at this point and it took me 3 tryes to put in the the right one after id poped out both packs :angel: )
Yeah, like once.
Even still., if anything is slightly outta scale, then it'd have to be recompiuled, and in order to maintain the neocron feel, i have to use a shit-load of face lights which increases the buildtime staggeringly so. but in all fairness, i am deeply considering making other sectors, not pp2/3, more goin bak into plaza 3 then plaza 1, after all EVERYONE who plays NC knows p 1 and as its always been a safe sector I've never fought in there so that'd be cool.
Even still., if anything is slightly outta scale, then it'd have to be recompiuled, and in order to maintain the neocron feel, i have to use a shit-load of face lights which increases the buildtime staggeringly so. but in all fairness, i am deeply considering making other sectors, not pp2/3, more goin bak into plaza 3 then plaza 1, after all EVERYONE who plays NC knows p 1 and as its always been a safe sector I've never fought in there so that'd be cool.
For testing purpouses compile without lighting then.
james_finn
02-08-07, 23:35
For testing purpouses compile without lighting then.
Bah I said that to him last night - he should compile with RAD off - but he syas it doesnt look sexy enough!
Bah I said that to him last night - he should compile with RAD off - but he syas it doesnt look sexy enough!
i believe the words i used where "gush-ability"
I tried that last night, the compiling time was down and the lights were still in although it didnt update the map, it kept the previous version... It did complete i made sure of that.
The complie rather obviously didn't complete then.
solid-rock
03-08-07, 17:03
Even still., if anything is slightly outta scale, then it'd have to be recompiuled, and in order to maintain the neocron feel, i have to use a shit-load of face lights which increases the buildtime staggeringly so. but in all fairness, i am deeply considering making other sectors, not pp2/3, more goin bak into plaza 3 then plaza 1, after all EVERYONE who plays NC knows p 1 and as its always been a safe sector I've never fought in there so that'd be cool.
For a period of time after the release of NC 2, P1 whas infact not a safezone and ive fought there on a couple of ocasions. Mostly jumping from building to building on my old melee tank trying to catch a droner killing my friends though.
For a period of time after the release of NC 2, P1 whas infact not a safezone and ive fought there on a couple of ocasions. Mostly jumping from building to building on my old melee tank trying to catch a droner killing my friends though.It was very odd seeing a melee tank pop out of stealth and start ganking you in P1 :p
well, i only joined NC bout 1 month prior to 2.1 goin live, so much so that i cant remember the old laser gun model... anyway, dad's conscripted me to work, so thats slowed map makin, however i promise I'll get club veronique started by monday, my previous schedules prolly gunna be moved back about a week tho but still, map's lookin ok so far, most of the more confusing MULTI-SECTORing's done now (not sure why that needed caps, it just felt right)
solid-rock
03-08-07, 19:49
It was very odd seeing a melee tank pop out of stealth and start ganking you in P1 :p
Alot of things where weird back in those days.
Hey guys, sorry not really had chance to work on this project what with real life getting in the way and all... however, recently reactivated and am on the ball once more!
also... would like to hear suggestions of other zones to attempt to build in source... this project has been really fun and i look forward to releasing the finished product. But please feel free to pm me/leave comments in this thread as to what u'd like to see next
cheers, Koe.
Sexy! Good to see you back in game :)
Well, since PP1 isn't the main PvP zone anymore, I was thinking maybe you could make a P2 map.
What would make it really awesome is if you could simulate a zoneline that the players can whore, to make it just like Neocron!
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