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Toxen
01-10-06, 15:44
If your not aware by now Stargate Sg1 has been canceled. But all is not lost large numbers of fans are mobilising behind a save stargate sg1 campaing and they need everyones help.
So Spread the word to every forum/bboard/irc channel/body.

http://savestargatesg1.com/

NAPPER
01-10-06, 16:03
ermmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm no :D

CMaster
01-10-06, 16:24
Frequently, being cancelled is actuallly a blessing for a series. I can think of several things that really should have been killed long ago.

kane
01-10-06, 16:37
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Koshinn
01-10-06, 18:36
um... i dont think it was cancelled... they're not gonna end the show on a huge ass cliffhanger...

Toxen
01-10-06, 19:38
um... i dont think it was cancelled... they're not gonna end the show on a huge ass cliffhanger...

http://www.gateworld.net/news/2006/08/sci_fi_channel_confirms_isg-1i_c.shtml

It's confirmed has been for a while now

Heavyporker
01-10-06, 19:53
But... the cliffhanger?!?

COME ON ASSHOLES! FINISH THE DAMN JOB!

rob444
01-10-06, 20:37
Heh, anyone seen the farscape series? SCI-FI channel cancelled that too and they did it on a very annoying cliffhanger :/. So they made a movie! w00t.

And dont worry guys, it will still get aired, this season isn't even complete yet so there is more coming.... Too bad they have to end the whole show though. Hopefully all the fans will make a difference :/.

Hell-demon
01-10-06, 20:47
Firefly was infinetly better than SG-1!

rob444
01-10-06, 20:54
Just watched that link. iTunes?! God I would hate that.

Jodo
01-10-06, 21:52
Star Trek fans tried to save their show from being cancelled and failed miserably. They have waaayy more insane, obssesive fans than just about anything else so I think SG1 has, sadly, bit the dust. It's not the same without O'Niell anyway.

P.S. Firefly sucks ass and this was proven by their blissfully short series. :p

Toxen
01-10-06, 22:47
Star Trek fans tried to save their show from being cancelled and failed miserably. They have waaayy more insane, obssesive fans than just about anything else so I think SG1 has, sadly, bit the dust. It's not the same without O'Niell anyway.

P.S. Firefly sucks ass and this was proven by their blissfully short series. :p

Different studio different network different channel, plus stuff has been saved on scifi before ie farscape, and that fan base wasn't as big as stargate sooo.

unreal
01-10-06, 23:01
Yeah Jodo. I've declined to watch any of the new Stargate episodes since I saw the original Jack O'Neil wasn't in it. It's just not the same without the original cast. That's like replacing Mr T with some random black guy in the A-Team. I doubt it'll be the end though, you can't just end a series with a stupid ending. Oh wait, they do that with every minute of Eastenders, shite waste of space programme. :rolleyes:

Pantho
01-10-06, 23:37
So, they stopping it Mid Season?

Or are they finishing the Season first?

Because they already have the Story line, the plots, the scripts.... For the rest of the season...

I mean they always do a Semi-Finale mid season.

BTW > SG1 Atlantis has been cleared for another series

Heavyporker
02-10-06, 00:07
At least... at least we'll have Eureka.

NAPPER
02-10-06, 01:12
At least... at least we'll have Eureka.


thats even crapper then stargate if you are in England you want to watch
channel 4 at 6pm because its simpsons then hollyoaks then the news but the frist 2 are class.

Pantho
02-10-06, 01:21
Yeah Jodo. I've declined to watch any of the new Stargate episodes since I saw the original Jack O'Neil wasn't in it. It's just not the same without the original cast. That's like replacing Mr T with some random black guy in the A-Team. I doubt it'll be the end though, you can't just end a series with a stupid ending. Oh wait, they do that with every minute of Eastenders, shite waste of space programme. :rolleyes:

Jack was in the last episode just on btw.

unreal
02-10-06, 01:27
Big wow, a single episode. The entire series is just crap and not the same Stargate SG-1 without him.

Jake Cutter
02-10-06, 06:43
SG-1 has indeed been cancelled. The cliffhanger episode that was just on wraps the first half of the final season. They do this every year...the remaining ten episodes or so will air in the spring.

Sci-Fi irritates me with the decision to cancel...they built their damn network around SG-1, and now kick it to the curb.

Regards,
Jake Cutter

Faid
02-10-06, 07:07
Its all about money and ratings they dont care what the actual fans think, you know the actual subscribers to the series... Kinda reminds me of another company we all know :rolleyes:

jini
02-10-06, 07:17
hmmm .. you all watch too much tv :p

Koshinn
02-10-06, 07:23
Its all about money and ratings they dont care what the actual fans think, you know the actual subscribers to the series... Kinda reminds me of another company we all know :rolleyes:

You can't expect people to continue working on something that's earning less and less money.. we don't know how well the show is doing financially, but if it's not gaining any money, do you really expect the studio to just pay for it?

If everyone did what the people wanted, this world would be a very very different one... :lol:

rob444
02-10-06, 10:49
Different studio different network different channel, plus stuff has been saved on scifi before ie farscape, and that fan base wasn't as big as stargate sooo.

Farscape wasn't really saved. They were forced to make a movie instead and damn what an ending it was on the serie, I was like... WTF!!!!

Louiscypher
02-10-06, 11:10
Battlestar gallactica, the original series and the remake of the series is amazingly good.
As for the rest i enjoyed star trek tng and space above and beyond and that's it.
There's hardly any good scifi series and sg1 should have been killed after the pilot episode.

solling
02-10-06, 11:53
farscape FTW

it dident get saved true, they made a mini series to finish it off. Loved that show :p

Heavyporker
02-10-06, 12:06
Its all about money and ratings they dont care what the actual fans think, you know the actual subscribers to the series... Kinda reminds me of another company we all know :rolleyes:


What the fuck? Subscriptions to the series?! How the fuck does one go about that?!

Unless you've got a completely, utterly different system over there, we subscribe to the cable/satellite package that includes the channel one wishes to watch. Not only that, the channel judges its success by the ratings it recieves by analyzing data.

Urgh.


And also... what the fuck is wrong with people who don't like Eureka? These people need to go into re-education classes to be renormalized, frankly. I offer to help... with forcible renormalization.

Pantho
02-10-06, 14:12
#I missed this weeks Eureka, i might go err... obtain it

Cor
02-10-06, 14:35
Time to let it go. Don't let it go the way the X-files went. After awhile no one is interested in it anymore.

rob444
02-10-06, 15:09
Lots of people are interested in SG-1, I don't see why they should put it down. But I guess they only planned for 10 seasons :/.

And that iTune shit idea, wont that require bandwidth? I wont be able to stream high quality video with my current connection o_O

Toxen
02-10-06, 15:43
Lots of people are interested in SG-1, I don't see why they should put it down. But I guess they only planned for 10 seasons :/.

And that iTune shit idea, wont that require bandwidth? I wont be able to stream high quality video with my current connection o_O

Most popular shows are already available on US itunes its just the rest of the world that doesn't get them yet because of some obscure legalities i have no clue about. its even caused problems with the free BSG webisodes.

To behonest think they need to get rid of regions and borders regarding mainstream media today, sales would be far higher if someone could purchase it the same day it went to air in the US often i have to avoid some of my favourite podcasts like slice of sci-fi because they contain spoilers.

IceStorm
02-10-06, 18:37
Stargate SG-1 does not end with Season 10, Episode 10.

Season 10 doesn't finish airing until June in 2007. SciFi, in their infinite wisdom, decided to air half of SG-1 and Atlantis, then all of BSG Season 3, then go back and finish airing the second half of SG-1 and Atlantis.

Stargate SG-1 was not renewed for an 11th season by SciFi. This is relatively "normal" for Stargate SG-1 - every season since the 5th, the writers have had to write a series finale because the renewal of the series always came at the last minute.

You have NINE MONTHS to "save" Stargate-SG1.

Star Trek fans tried to save their show from being cancelled and failed miserably. They have waaayy more insane, obssesive fans than just about anything else so I think SG1 has, sadly, bit the dust.Stargate SG-1 apparently has a bigger, better behaved fanbase than Trekkies.

Personally, I'd like to see the series continue. I got into it with Season 9 as I was a big FarScape fan and followed Ben Browder to the show. I had watched episodes here and there, but never the whole series. Going back and watching Seasons 1-8 solidified the choice of Browder to replace Anderson on a regular basis in my mind. It just "fits".

Regardless, after the Ori they'll have to find yet another crisis. I'm sure they could do it, and I'm sure I'd watch, but I won't buy DRM'ed episodes off iTunes or Unbox unless I can remove the DRM and move the episodes to the viewing platform of my choice. I'd certaintly buy the DVDs, though.

rob444
02-10-06, 18:45
IceStorm, I hope you saw the 200th episode of SG-1 then, there was some farscape in it ;).

kane
02-10-06, 19:15
In 9 months I will be planning my funreal for anyone who cares.,

Faid
03-10-06, 01:52
@ HP I was simply implying that the network, Scifi channel, which I have to subscribe or pay money to to watch doesnt much care what their loyal fans want, they care about the ratings and the money they can make from the show. And in a business point of view they're right.

And Eureka sucked ass tbh :p <3 HP

.hack//sign
03-10-06, 01:55
Dudes,soon as they got rid of Richard, they ruined the show. I was the biggest stargate fan and I don't even watch it any longer, (Farscape and their actors SUCKED!)

solling
03-10-06, 08:50
Farscape FTW again, just cuz all the actors aint american dont make it bad :p



IceStorm, I hope you saw the 200th episode of SG-1 then, there was some farscape in it .


haha i saw that made me crack up so funne

Heavyporker
03-10-06, 14:34
Die Faid and hack.sign.


Eureka and Farscape completely rule.


And that 200th episode of SG was pretty damn funny. I agree - that farscape skit was so hilarious! It was even funnier because TWO of the current SG members was in Farscape, and Teal'c was so funny as D'Argo in that skit.

Brammers
03-10-06, 14:39
And that 200th episode of SG was pretty damn funny. I agree - that farscape skit was so hilarious! It was even funnier because TWO of the current SG members was in Farscape, and Teal'c was so funny as D'Argo in that skit.

I was in total stitches when I watched the 200th episode, all the actors sending each other up, and just having a laugh.

Even after 10 seaons, SG1 is still as good as the past 9 seasons. There are plenty of gate addresses to be dailed, so there are plenty of stories to be told still.

Pantho
03-10-06, 14:47
I was in total stitches when I watched the 200th episode, all the actors sending each other up, and just having a laugh.

Even after 10 seaons, SG1 is still as good as the past 9 seasons. There are plenty of gate addresses to be dailed, so there are plenty of stories to be told still.

Im sure i saw that one, but i cant remember see'ing a funny episode

Brammers
03-10-06, 15:05
Im sure i saw that one, but i cant remember see'ing a funny episode

Any of the episodes featuring Wormhole Extreme was funny. Although I do miss Jack O'Neals sense of humour.

Faid
03-10-06, 16:40
I loved how they made fun of themselves throughout that show. I think in one wormhole extreme episode they were questioning all the physics of events that had happened, like "if this guy can pass through solid matter how is it he can walk on the ground without sinking through it" That and in one of the early episodes Sam mentioned to Jack something about "pulling a Macguyver"

Toxen
03-10-06, 16:49
You know even though RDA was brilliant in Sg1 people get too attached to characters in some shows, and then get antsy when something is changed which would be a natural evolution of a character.

This is why BSG is so fracken good, theres a promise by the writers if i rember the article correctly to kill off at least a couple of major characters a season and I don't just mean cylons. Wonder who's gonna kick the bucket in season 3.

Heavyporker
04-10-06, 04:20
I hope it's Baltar or whosshisname. It's aggravating how he can just keep seeing that female cyclon without anyone catching on for real (note: I haven't been able to catch most of the episodes, only now and then.) Come on, why didn't anyone seriously count him out for POLITICAL OFFICE if he's VISIBLY OFF HIS ROCKER?!

Apocalypsox
04-10-06, 05:20
i stopped watching SG1 when they nerfed Jack :( i dont like the new guy. Watched the 200th episode tho. was pretty good. :o

Scanner Darkly
04-10-06, 09:05
Star Trek fans tried to save their show from being cancelled and failed miserably. They have waaayy more insane, obssesive fans than just about anything else so I think SG1 has, sadly, bit the dust. It's not the same without O'Niell anyway.

P.S. Firefly sucks ass and this was proven by their blissfully short series. :p

Talking about Enterprise here? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: What an awful awful show. Just goes to show that Berman and Braga (producers) really know how to run a franchise into the ground - come on Star Trek was virtually a guaranteed goldmine.

SG1 - the couple of episodes I watched looked terrible, good riddance.

Aaah, so because Fox had no idea how to market it, showed pretty much all the episodes out of sequence (most of their execs have trouble distinguishing their arses from their elbows, I'm told) and let's face it, completely mishandled the show, Firefly sucks ass. Get a clue, dude.

Another show getting cancelled by FOX after a short-ish run: Family Guy - that's really shit too right. Brought back due to popular demand, but I digress.

Not only did it [Firefly] have one of the highest DVD sales of any show but they actually made a studio movie of the series BECAUSE OF SAID SALES. So yeah it must really suck.

Whoa, getting inflamed on The INTERNET!!! :eek: :eek:

Jodo
04-10-06, 10:23
Not only did it [Firefly] have one of the highest DVD sales of any show but they actually made a studio movie of the series BECAUSE OF SAID SALES. So yeah it must really suck.

You get out of the wrong side of bed or something? Tetchy barsteward.
Firefly had its film because and only because Joss Whedon wouldn't let it die which he admitted himself in television interviews. Futurama has been cancelled about 5 or 6 times and keeps being brought back by popular demand. The problem with popular demand is that its only a vague opinion usually. You can have 5,000,000 people sign an online petition (lots of time and dedication involved there :rolleyes: ) but the trouble is only 1,000,000 people are actually true fans who tune in to watch it every week.
The same thing happened with th Angel series. I thought it was much better written and directed and everyone had already polished those talents and cut their teeth with the Buffy series. To take this one step futher, it starred David Boreanz. Not really a big incentive for most lads but that shouldn't matter because most of the Buffy and Angel fanbase was female anyway.
There were/are a lot of people who like the idea of these and other series but not enough to actually bother watching it.

Scanner Darkly
04-10-06, 22:48
My point being, that whether a show does or does not get cancelled has nothing to do with it's quality. It is almost entirely to do with it's ratings (viewing figures) which affect sponsorship/advertising.

If a network feels that a show is not performing well, which can be because a show sucks or because it is mishandled by the TV network, or for various other usually commercial reasons, it will pull the plug.

Hence my comment about Family Guy (cancelled a million times) and your example of Futurama, both of them series that faced termination in their prime. Btw Futurama as you probably know is being brought back in 2008 for one confirmed series with usual cast. Hooray for Billy West & co!

edit: not sure why "Joss whedon not letting it die" in any way supports your argument that the show sucked. He didn't want to let it die (and released comics/and I think some novels - comics seemed a bit weak to me) because there was still a story to be told. Did you actually watch the show? It really was pretty good, just perhaps a little too unique for its own good.

Sorry I snapped at you, I just thought your post lacked any substance behind your assertions.

edit 2: I think it's okay to call me a bastard :) barsteward is kinda campy :angel:

Toxen
04-10-06, 23:58
Talking about Enterprise here? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: What an awful awful show. Just goes to show that Berman and Braga (producers) really know how to run a franchise into the ground - come on Star Trek was virtually a guaranteed goldmine.

SG1 - the couple of episodes I watched looked terrible, good riddance.

Aaah, so because Fox had no idea how to market it, showed pretty much all the episodes out of sequence (most of their execs have trouble distinguishing their arses from their elbows, I'm told) and let's face it, completely mishandled the show, Firefly sucks ass. Get a clue, dude.

Another show getting cancelled by FOX after a short-ish run: Family Guy - that's really shit too right. Brought back due to popular demand, but I digress.

Not only did it [Firefly] have one of the highest DVD sales of any show but they actually made a studio movie of the series BECAUSE OF SAID SALES. So yeah it must really suck.

Whoa, getting inflamed on The INTERNET!!! :eek: :eek:

Alot of sci-fi fan's think that fox doesn't give new sci-fi shows a chance to develop enough, some examples that community commonly states is space above and beyond and firefly theres several other but i can't rember them.

Enterprise is again another story though it did succumb to the ratings machine , it was more an issue of the writing and continuity that was smashed to pieces according to the fanbase. But still its coming back we're getting another movie in a couple of years.

And for peoples reference its not the production studio that wants to cancel it, from what i gather sci-fi didn't want to air it anymore. There line up has started to change for the weirder... pro wrestling on sci-fi anyone?
Now im not sure if I want sci-fi to pick up scott siglers ancestor for a TV Movie.

Scanner Darkly
05-10-06, 00:08
Enterprise is again another story though it did succumb to the ratings machine , it was more an issue of the writing and continuity that was smashed to pieces according to the fanbase. But still its coming back we're getting another movie in a couple of years.


I enjoyed the first few episodes of Enterprise, but by about half-way through the first (only season for me) season, it seemed to be turning into a retro-Voyager sans sexy middle aged Janeway analogue. No Janeway, no dice.

I just kept expecting Dean Stockwell to pop up whenever Scott Bacula was around.

Jodo
05-10-06, 01:17
edit: not sure why "Joss whedon not letting it die" in any way supports your argument that the show sucked.

It wasn't really to support my argument, more to undermine yours regarding film = popular. Not a direct quote, but what appeared to be your point.


Sorry I snapped at you, I just thought your post lacked any substance behind your assertions.

my original post wasn't intended to have any substance. It was just an opinion in response to Hell-demons. :p I wasn't offended anyway so no apologies necessary, it just seemed a little out of character compared to your other posts I've read.

Firefly was infinetly better than SG-1!


edit 2: I think it's okay to call me a bastard :) barsteward is kinda campy :angel:
As for the "campy" barsteward, there was no malice or feeling behind it. More of a jokey comment, a friendly flame if there is such a thing. ;)

Toxen
05-10-06, 12:37
Apparently according to the latest news MGM has climbed onboard the save stargate campiagn

Scanner Darkly
05-10-06, 13:30
It wasn't really to support my argument, more to undermine yours regarding film = popular. Not a direct quote, but what appeared to be your point.


My argument was that Cancelled show with unusually high DVD sales = popular/cult show . This is the reason that's usually given as to why Universal put up the money for Serenity. Serenity was of course a box office flop and made back it's budget plus a little extra from DVD sales.

It's not like Whedon has that much clout that he can just snap his fingers and get a deal for a movie spun off a huge big failure of a TV series.

By the way did you watch much Firefly?

Jodo
05-10-06, 19:37
Sorry, I meant to answer that in my last post. I watched the first couple of episodes but found the characters weak and unlikeable (same trouble with Farscape too). I really couldn't get in to it and a couple of the actors seemed quite poor, possibly contributing to the weak characters. The two that had been in Buffy and Angel (one of them also in and the Shield 24) I have never liked so that probably influenced me a bit. As I said though, it's just my opinion.

Danae
05-10-06, 19:49
Aww, that's a shame, but I say:

BRING BACK MACGUYVER!!!!!

Jodo
05-10-06, 21:18
lol, do you happen to know Patty and Selma by any chance? :p

FeeNiX
07-10-06, 11:31
Richard Dean Anderson is getting old, I think he is planning on being let out to the field to stud. As for firefly/serenity, I liked it a lot, and since it broke even and then some, maybe they will make another, 70% of the crap the studios roll out these days can't be breaking even, a break even keeps the lights on and the camera crew employed. Who knows?

Jodo
07-10-06, 14:21
Sadly that’s not enough for the backers to be bothered about and there's also no guarantee that it would continue to break even. If it's not making a huge profit, the backers will not want to risk their cash.