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Take a look at this. It sounds really cool :)
http://www.steorn.net/frontpage/default.aspx?p=1
Mighty Max
18-09-06, 12:26
The only result i see coming in for them are the mail-addresses of a lot easy believing ppl. Great resource to sell products like the "energy pyramide", "power crystals" etc.
Under the rules they give themself it is simply not possible due to algebra.
So no i will NOT sign, it's too much smelling like spam & scam.
ofc not.. why would they have to collect ten thousands of email-adresses? For what purpose other than doing things with em I dont want em to do. :rolleyes: O_o
edit:
SCAM
:lol: :rolleyes:
Instead of a long reply I will just link (http://moonflake.wordpress.com/2006/08/24/midweek-cuckoo-steorn-ltd/) something. Saves me the time of writing about the same :)
sound like a "Perpetuum Mobile". And there are no - really no hints about the technique used. Futhermore there are no links to other sites, who checked their claims.
Therefore it seems dubious to me.
Perhaps their Free Energy Machine produces cheap, herbal Viagra that can be compacted into authentic looking Rolexes, and they are just ensuring that they have an efficient way to dispose of the waste products?
... :p
/edith: great sig there :D
We need to fix fusion tbh. Or we could use the massive ball of fusion that we see everyday ;)
Anyone remember that guy who ran his car on water? what happened to that? i didn't understand how it worked, unless he was splitting the H2O and then using the hydrogen for fusion :lol:
james_finn
18-09-06, 13:32
We need to fix fusion tbh. Or we could use the massive ball of fusion that we see everyday ;)
Anyone remember that guy who ran his car on water? what happened to that? i didn't understand how it worked, unless he was splitting the H2O and then using the hydrogen for fusion :lol:
Why not split the water and use the hydrogen as a combustable for use in the engine?
The worse bi product would be OH or H2O.
/me never was any good at chemistry - maybe someone can check that for me
Delphi
Why not split the water and use the hydrogen as a combustable for use in the engine?
The worse bi product would be OH or H2O.
/me never was any good at chemistry - maybe someone can check that for me
Delphi you could break up and the burn the hydrogen and oxygen, but if the system was 100% efficient you end up with exactly the same amount of energy as you started with. In other words each bond between atoms has a certain amount of energy, to break apart the H2O bonds, requires as much energy as you get from putting them back together. Unless he has made a better way of breaking them apart, i can't remember if he said how he did it.
EDIT: here it is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp990yPVKug
oh i understand now, he does use up more energy to split up the H2O. So essentially it's just using electricity as fuel.
http://www.steorn.net/en/technology.aspx?p=5
Steorn has decided to publish its challenge in The Economist because of the breadth of its readership. "We chose it over a purely scientific magazine simply because we want to make the general public aware that this process is about to commence and to generate public support, awareness, interest etc for what we are doing."
So why wont they publish in a scientific journal?
On this page http://www.steorn.net/en/news.aspx?p=2 All the press releases are dated this year.
I was going to check the domain records out, but Networksolutions' website is screwed up atm.
But so far, I'm not convinced.
Scanner Darkly
18-09-06, 14:16
Recharge your phone, your laptop and your electric Ferrari with the free and unlimited power of positive thinking!
generator configurations that appeared to be over 100% efficient
Roffle my waffle
Other patents pending:
Miracle pizza maker: Make delicious, Italian style pizzas out of thin air and episodes of "Joey".
Near-future time travelling machine: Stepping into this hyperspatial quantum-loop enclosure you can emerge hours, days, even weeks later without appearing to age.*
* requires our patent pending face cream and suspension of disbelief.
Keep an open mind, because one day someone could come and tell you that the world is round and you'll all laugh and try to put him on the stakes.....
Oh wait, wrong speech, this is a very old one.
What i'm saying is that we are still primitive in our scientific knowledge, the more the find out the more they see that there is we don't even have a clue about.
And on a sidenote, i also have found a way for free energy.
I reequiped my carseat with a plastic hose that leads to the engine, i now drive around naked while eating a lot of beans :D
yet, they already got 65k clients in their email lists lol. I wonder how these clients will react when they realise all this is but a large scam. Bah modern marketing, someone needs to punish them :p
Dribble Joy
18-09-06, 15:09
You'll never get 100% efficiency, ever, it just doesn't work like that.
There are various applications for hydrogen derived from water hydrolysis, fuel cells for example. There's also an idea to retrofit the current UK gas supply to run off hydrogen.
There are various experiments/theories/plans for 'free energy' devices, except it's not free energy, it's call zero point energy. There's shit loads of electromagnetic radiation flying about the place, but it's an arse to absorb it. There's also a limit to how much is in a given volume of space.
For those interested in learning more about all this:
http://www.waterpoweredcar.com
If this technology was even slightly efficient, thus profitable, it would be everywhere already. Trash commercialism and 'greed' all you want but that is what decides the products we see. So why don't we see it? IT'S A FUCKING HOAX!
If there ever existed such a technology, then simply put, our societies would have collapsed. Economy models would have collapsed. But Im really interested to see what they "sell". And the impact or the aftermath. They are cool though, no doubt
john irons
18-09-06, 17:09
For those interested in learning more about all this:
http://www.waterpoweredcar.com
what a dippy cunt
if only he had pasted his designs on the internets we might have free energy now and he would not be dead
I'd love water powered stuff since I'm quite big on environmentally friendly stuff, but i don't believe it, and i think there would be too many people trying to make it for any government to suppress
it's funny that they say patent pending on their homepage tho there is no patent office worldwide that grants a patent for a perpetuum mobile, which a generator with an efficiency of over 100% definately is :p
i still dont understand it. if they burn hydrogen, they get water, which they can split, burn the hydrogen, split water etc so it would be unlimited energy from no-where?
naah i bet that's another bull. you need more energy to separate hydrogen than what you getting from burning hydrogen
point is normal combustion engines are very inefficient, so you will most likely get a better milleage on such a vehicle then on ordinary ones.
Complete bullshit.
My guess. :)
I would like to sign up...
Comeon guys, sign up and tell me what you recieve :)
MuggleMind
18-09-06, 22:53
Signed up about a week ago - though I did create an email account especially for it. If it is a hoax and a way to build a marketing list, then it's not going to be a problem with my regular email. But if it is genuine, I would like to hear.
does anyone actually care if they do just end up sending you spam? tbh i get so much stuff above enlarging my penis or groupsex! that it wouldn't make any difference. And if they try to send my stuff to my rl adresses then i feel sorry for the 165 year living in 123 Fakestreet in Kazahkstan.
Clive tombstone
18-09-06, 23:13
I swear, I wish I actually knew who to believe. Its always been my personal Philosophy to follow my own doctrin of "Believe half of what you see, and none of what you hear", this motive of course carries always to both sides of the arguement.
Honestly I'd give just about anything to get away from oil, but is what we see a false hope? Or something greater being supressed by the greedy Corps of the world? I just dont know. The other thing I relized, is that if someone really wanted to get the word out for this water powered engine, his smartest move probably would be to send the blueprints out to several hundred car and automotive producers (preferably not linked to GM or other major producers) as well as major governments that dont hold superior power in the Automotive world (IE brazil, Arab states, china, etc), And of course send the BP's all over the net. This of course would be a near fool-proof way of avoiding suppression of the engines design. Course there could be other ways of keeping this plan down, but obviously I have a feeling something could go wrong.
Then again I dont know if the world is really that "Evil" I could be wrong, or I could be right, Im still just 20 years old, and the darker corners of the world still for the most part, have been out of my vission.
:( i want to sign up, but cant be bothered to make an email and dont want to risk the spam. someone keep us posted on whether this is evil or not (ie spam)
i suppose i would be a bit more cautious if i didn't use webmail.
they sell something, but not spam. It's too obvious and they risk sues.
I have signed up. My bet is they do it as some kinda of a project.. or a bet. we will see
There is no such thing as infinity.
Heavyporker
19-09-06, 09:02
Mathematically, there is such a concept as infinity. There is, if I understand it correctly, an entire branch of mathematics focused on the multitude of concepts that surrounds inifinity.
And whoever is intellectually stunted to the point where he can't understand the concepts called the Laws of Thermodyamics...
- Fine, you can split water and burn the hydrogen whereupon the process makes more water - Get the fucking concept: YOU NEED ENERGY TO SPLIT WATER IN THE FIRST PLACE... AND EVEN THEN, YOU WON'T GET AS MUCH ENERGY FROM BURNING THE HYDROGEN AS YOU NEEDED TO SPLIT THE WATER IN THE FIRST PLACE... THEN THERE'S THE NEWSFLASH WHERE YOU REALIZE YOU NEED MORE HYDROGEN TO KEEP GOING TO WHERE YOU WANTED BE!
Gah!
This whole thing is a damn scam! I can't believe anyone is seriously discussing this!
Darq[Terra]
19-09-06, 10:07
I actually heard a snippet about this last week on NPR here in the States... It was all very vague though. My guess is that in 6 months they're going to send an update out to their mailling list looking for potential investors.
i'm gonna make a diet coke and mentos powered car
I'm gonna ignite the sea :D
Mighty Max
19-09-06, 15:47
I'm gonna ignite the sea :D
Actually that was one of the fears of the Manhatten Project. If you heat up the atmosphere to the point where molecules split into their atoms and atoms melting to bigger atoms (i.e. hydrogen => helium), you could - theoretical - reach a point where enough heat emmits in this reaction to katalyse the surrounding molecules to do the same.
Luckily those conditions were not even nearly reached :D
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