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Nidhogg
04-05-06, 10:43
As of today all official GM character names will be prefixed with "GM_" and all company officials' names will be prefixed "KK_". This decision has been made to help reduce confusion during the support process (especially in chat message) and to remove the possibility of impersonation.

If you receive a message from someone purporting to be a GM who does not have the prefix "GM_" or "KK_" please take a screenshot and send it to abuse@neocron.com. Thanks.

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Glok
04-05-06, 10:45
Nice one. Asshats who kept saying 'oh I'm a GM' were getting on my nerves. And of course they never warp to you to prove it. :p

Any chance of getting the freak names that are all caps switched to the (I thought hard coded) naming rules?

Riddle
04-05-06, 11:02
Good news for the players bad news for wannabe's :D

giga191
04-05-06, 12:15
is it more leet?

Pestilence
04-05-06, 13:35
Isn't it possible to prevent Users from taking Names beginning with KK_ or GM_? A little namefilter or somewhat like that?

Bugs Gunny
04-05-06, 13:39
So i guess you're gonna change my character KK_TXBYENOW and my guy called GM_CHRYSLER ?

Brammers
04-05-06, 13:43
So i guess you're gonna change my character KK_TXBYENOW and my guy called GM_CHRYSLER ?

Don't think you can put underscores in your character name.

RogerRamjet
04-05-06, 13:43
Wasnt this like it was in NC1? :confused:

elGringo
04-05-06, 13:44
Isn't it possible to prevent Users from taking Names beginning with KK_ or GM_? A little namefilter or somewhat like that?

you would have thought they'd add that before making the naming convention .. but then.. maybe not :p

Glok
04-05-06, 13:47
How do people get all caps names now anyways? I've seen a few the last few days... character generation exploit?? That's a new one. :lol:

Nidhogg
04-05-06, 14:22
You shouldn't be able to make names to abuse this convention.

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giga191
04-05-06, 17:00
How do people get all caps names now anyways? I've seen a few the last few days... character generation exploit?? That's a new one. :lol: never knew you couldn't do that :confused:

CMaster
04-05-06, 17:04
How do people get all caps names now anyways? I've seen a few the last few days... character generation exploit?? That's a new one. :lol:

NC1 Transfers. Anything with numbers or fancy characters gets filteded out it seems, but old formatted names,or those that breach new spelling rules can stay.

Glok
04-05-06, 17:09
But we all had to make new names... at least I did. That has changed? I'm waiting for FREEPORN CLICKHERE to show up any day now. Anyone remember him from pluto?

CMaster
04-05-06, 18:03
But we all had to make new names... at least I did. That has changed? I'm waiting for FREEPORN CLICKHERE to show up any day now. Anyone remember him from pluto?

He was on terra ages ago.

Glok
04-05-06, 18:05
He was on terra ages ago.Haha really? Ah well then. :p

Mr Kot
04-05-06, 18:47
How do people get all caps names now anyways? I've seen a few the last few days... character generation exploit?? That's a new one. :lol:The name filter was only introduced with patch 131, so any characters made before then will have names that aren't possible now. In addition, NC1 transfers used to go through a separate process so wouldn't be affected by the ingame character naming filter.



So i guess you're gonna change my character KK_TXBYENOW and my guy called GM_CHRYSLER ?The nearest you will get to that when it shows in ingame chat will be Kk-Txbyenow and Gm-Chrysler with that exact capitalisation. Double capital letters and underscores like GM_ and KK_ can't be made at character creation.

Tratos
04-05-06, 19:05
Wasnt this like it was in NC1? :confused:
The GMs and Officials were labeled [GM] / [SGM] / [AGM] and [KK] in Neocron 1 for a while in think.

Good to see.

Bandit1
04-05-06, 22:52
Deutsch:

Da der Deutsche Thread hierzu dicht ist, schreib ichs jetzt hier rein.

Finde ich eine Gute sache :)

English:

Nice :)

+1

(@Thor: Leute die Deutsch sprechen, können auch diesen Thread zum Spammen nutzen :p )

LeoPump
04-05-06, 23:17
Hmm.. Nice 1 !!! Really.. !

You copied that from WoW? ;P

Now I will make a character, who is called Carnaeg-. Allowed?


SoLoNg...
Leo

Bandit1
04-05-06, 23:19
one question:

It is allowd ,that i named me K.K_Carnage-?

Nidhogg
04-05-06, 23:37
one question:

It is allowd ,that i named me K.K_Carnage-?
What do you think?

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Pestilence
04-05-06, 23:47
You'll see it, when your acc is banned ;)

elGringo
04-05-06, 23:56
although "nick copying" may not be considered a bannable offense - impersonating a KK staff member certainly is... no matter wether you call yourself carnage, carnage- or carnäg-e ... KK will be able to close any of these chars by refering to their "impersonating staff members" part in teh terms of use .. so stop that stupid rant pls :)

Bandit1
05-05-06, 00:22
so

but it is legal to named me "elGrimmase" or "elGringpumps"

Why it is not allowed to named me Carnagge?

elGringo
05-05-06, 00:39
so

but it is legal to named me "elGrimmase" or "elGringpumps"

Why it is not allowed to named me Carnagge?

see above... you can call yourself retardedelgringoclone if you wish to do so... carnagge can be understood as a possible attempt to impersonate a KK staff member or gamemaster and thus is a breach of the "terms of use". To break it down... it's KK's decision wether they'll allow any given nickname or not. Thus Leopump will have to accept, that Legopump and Leopimp etc are legal names as they are in no way attempting to impersonate a KK / Support member ;)

LeoPump
05-05-06, 01:33
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Thus Leopump will have to accept, that Legopump and Leopimp etc are legal names as they are in no way attempting to impersonate a KK / Support member ;)

Really? No..!

List of prohibited actions (http://ng.neocron.com/index.php?id=83)

=> "Copying another runner's name with the express purpose of gaining personal advantage or harassing the original."

More?

Furtheron I mailed Carnage and he said, that it's okay etc. (That is not a quote !) Oo


SoLoNg...
Leo

Glok
05-05-06, 03:52
The name filter was only introduced with patch 131, so any characters made before then will have names that aren't possible now. In addition, NC1 transfers used to go through a separate process so wouldn't be affected by the ingame character naming filter.Eh? I transferred 3 chars from NC1 at the very start of NC2 retail and had to re-enter their names to be approved by the then even more restrictive naming filter. I think I really am from another dimension, all you guys are telling me my past isn't real lol.

edit: I also made a new monk a few weeks later, that I tried to name Crystal, the naming filter rejected that because of 5 consonants in a row. Also '-' wasn't allowed, so names like Crazy Mk-Two and Gg-No Re would have been impossible. I'm not sure when patch 131 was, but the naming filter was there long before that.

unreal
05-05-06, 04:40
The interesting question is... what happens if some new GM comes along from a different server and impersonates me, unreal/unrael, for example? Will my tradeskiller and WOC dex 1 Spy get deleted? Will I be forced to pick a different name? Will my account be banned? :rolleyes:

Apocalypsox
05-05-06, 06:40
awaits for his account to be banned for impersonating a GM named "Warbot Titan" O.O* :D

Nidhogg
05-05-06, 10:40
The interesting question is... what happens if some new GM comes along from a different server and impersonates me, unreal/unrael, for example? Will my tradeskiller and WOC dex 1 Spy get deleted? Will I be forced to pick a different name? Will my account be banned? :rolleyes:
Ooh, /me goes off to make KK_Unreal. ;) We've had GMs in the past who had to choose another name because the one they wanted was too close to an existing customer name. That shouldn't be a problem.

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Zefrian
05-05-06, 11:14
one question: It is allowd ,that i named me K.K_Carnage-?
Why are people always trying to find the point most close to the border to aggravation? :mad:

Don't do it, because the similarity is obvious. --> Problem solved.

It's like someone tells you "Don't drink from this cup of deadly poison!", and the next question is "But may I lick the cup?" - WHY????

elGringo
05-05-06, 11:31
They know that themselves Zef :)
They're trying to point at a different issue... namely that someone created the chars "Legopump" and "Leopimp" (or similar) on the same server that "Leopump" plays on ... the support didnt see a problem with that co-existance and Leopump and his friends have a hard time accepting that its KK and not them deceiding these issues :p

Bandit1
05-05-06, 18:15
Same rights for all, in this game.

If it is not allowed to named me K.K_Carnage- , it should not allowed to fake a normal runner.

I hope you understand me.

athon
05-05-06, 18:59
Same rights for all, in this game.

If it is not allowed to named me K.K_Carnage- , it should not allowed to fake a normal runner.

I hope you understand me.
The rules are the same for everyone. From the forbidden actions list quoted earlier:
Copying another runner's name with the express purpose of gaining personal advantage or harassing the original.

But does a similar name mean you're trying to impersonate someone? In the case of KK staff it's usually fairly obvious (especially with the naming convention announced in this thread), but just because there's someone on the server already named Axel F and I choose to name my character Axel Foley, possibly with no knowledge that "Axel F" exists that doesn't mean I'm trying to impersonate them.

I can see several problems in trying to implement a "no similar names at all" rule:

1) Administration. You'd have to moderate every new characters name. With rergard to this, how do you know which accounts belong to the same people? And how similar does a name have to be before it's illegal?

2) Pretty soon you're going to run out of sensible names.

Mr Kot
05-05-06, 23:11
Eh? I transferred 3 chars from NC1 at the very start of NC2 retail and had to re-enter their names to be approved by the then even more restrictive naming filter. I think I really am from another dimension, all you guys are telling me my past isn't real lol.

edit: I also made a new monk a few weeks later, that I tried to name Crystal, the naming filter rejected that because of 5 consonants in a row. Also '-' wasn't allowed, so names like Crazy Mk-Two and Gg-No Re would have been impossible. I'm not sure when patch 131 was, but the naming filter was there long before that.

Bleh, my bad.. i was referring to the name abuse filter from patch 131, which wouldn't allow names containing "Ass" or "Fuck" etc. I do remember the earlier filter now you mention it, that wouldn't allow strange symbols or numbers etc, so it must have been the capitalisation that was allowed on transfers, but now gets tweaked on newly made chars.

Pantho
06-05-06, 02:41
Eh? I transferred 3 chars from NC1 at the very start of NC2 retail and had to re-enter their names to be approved by the then even more restrictive naming filter. I think I really am from another dimension, all you guys are telling me my past isn't real lol.

edit: I also made a new monk a few weeks later, that I tried to name Crystal, the naming filter rejected that because of 5 consonants in a row. Also '-' wasn't allowed, so names like Crazy Mk-Two and Gg-No Re would have been impossible. I'm not sure when patch 131 was, but the naming filter was there long before that.

you can use - , they class as spaces.

Strife
06-05-06, 04:49
you couldnt when i tried to transfer 2 months ago