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Dogface
28-03-06, 01:15
1- What is the best program out there to setup up a character? With the most accurate con values etc etc.
I don't want to hear that it's all changing soon so there's no point in making a new one either :p

2- How long does it take for an account activation email to come through for nc.synergyxr.net website?
I've been waiting a good few hours, I want to post some shit on the setup database. Won't psot here because it's just fancy on the synergy site :D

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With neoskiller, it seems all the setups I make for a no SA Judge PE (even setups based on ones I've taken from other peoples setups) seem absolutely wank, even with 125 in fire/xray/energy and some in poison, around 450HP etc etc.

Some differences with NS and NC Skill Manager Advance -

SKill Manager doesn't show the same armor values as NS does, even with the exact same setups.

I have +38 points in body health in NS and I only have +28 in SM.. Setups exactly the same..

SM doesn't have Nightspider or Dolinskin.

With the body health difference, I've taken ten points off the SM setup in con and put and extra ten points in body health, which doesn't even give me the same figure as the NS setup, (ok it's a few points out but-) this gives me no points in poison resist.
Also note the difference in PSI power with the same setups - even with the + 5 from Nightspider (including -15 from redflash, used in both setups) it still doesn't add up accurate compared to eachother.

I'm not asking for a complete 100% perfectly accurate program, that's what trial and error is for, but I'd like to know which one is more accurate. I'll post the setup on both programs. Look at the armor values on both setups, EXACT same points as you can see.

Neoskiller setup -

Character Data for New Character

Character Class: Private Eye Ranking: 65/45

None

-----------Intelligence-----------
Current: 66 6
Skill: Hacking = 98 15
Skill: Barter = 0 0
Skill: PSI Use = 67 5
Skill: Weapon Lore = 100 23
Skill: Construction = 0 0
Skill: Research = 0 0
Skill: Implant = 20 20
Skill: Willpower = 0 0

-----------Strength-----------
Current: 60 0
Skill: Melee Combat = 4 4
Skill: Heavy Combat = 0 -9
Skill: Transport = 107 6
Skill: Resist Force = 113 23

-----------Constitution-----------
Current: 63 -2
Skill: Athletics = 85 25
Skill: Body Health = 111 38
Skill: Endurance = 16 16
Skill: Resist Fire = 59 30
Skill: Resist Energy = 64 30
Skill: Resist X-Ray = 75 25
Skill: Resist Poison = 56 15

-----------Dexterity-----------
Current: 102 22
Skill: Pistol Combat = 168 40
Skill: Rifle Combat = 0 0
Skill: HighTech Combat = 83 9
Skill: Vehicle Use = 0 0
Skill: Agility = 98 48
Skill: Repair = 0 0
Skill: Recycle = 0 0
Skill: Remote Control = 0 0

-----------PSI-----------
Current: 37 2
Skill: Passive PSI Use = 75 0
Skill: Agressive PSI Use = 0 0
Skill: Mental Steadiness = 44 -6
Skill: PSI Power = 22 0
Skill: Resist PSI = 0 0

-----------Extra-----------
Current: 0 0

-------Character Inventory-------
Inquisition Helmet 2 (Helmet)
Tangent Close Range BattleSuit V-30 (Vest)
Light Energy Protection Belt (Belt)
Inquisition Trousers 2 (Trousers)
Crahn Holy Shelter Boots (Boots)
BioTech (M.O.V.E.O.N) CPU (Brain Chip)
Protopharm Resistor Chip (Brain Chip)
Special Forces CPU (Brain Chip)
Experimental Ballistic Weapon Chip 3 (Brain Chip)
Pistol CombatEye 3 (Eye)
Filter Heart 2 (Heart)
Crahn Power Gauntlet (Glove)
Experimental ReflexBooster 4 (Spine)
BioTech AntiGamma Headbone (Headbone)
Biotech AntiGamma Chest Enforcement (Chest)
Biotech AntiGamma Arm Enforcement (Arm)
Biotech AntiGamma Leg Enforcement (Leg)
Biotech AntiGamma Foot Enforcement (Foot)
Shelter (Shelter)
Blessed Deflector (Deflector)
Pistol Combat Booster 1 (Combat)
Spy Booster 1 (Support)
Basic Resist Booster 3 (Resist)
Nightspider (Drug)
Redflash (Drug)
---------------------------------

Copy into Neoskiller.


Skill Manager Setup -

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d148/Steve1821/Skillermanagersetup.jpg

It would seem clear that NS is the obvious choice, but like I said, using other setups made on here based on others, they seem a bit wank really.

jini
28-03-06, 08:09
Try out neoskiller, It's here with us for long time and its the most updated/accurate get it from this link http://forum.neocron.com/showthread.php?t=115325

Im only using neoskiller as a means to see what I can and what I can't use, becuase it has working restriction and such. Your setup seems cool, I dont see the whole picture, but try drugs, noPA setups, different psi buffs maybe a gaya ;) I wouldnt use a exp bali, but its also how u feeling confident taking drugs etc

ThrillHousE
28-03-06, 08:32
yeah neoskiller ftw, but don't waste to much looms now. The new class balancing will force you looming again! ;)

tomparadox
28-03-06, 08:37
neoskiller is pretty good
























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Dogface
28-03-06, 09:12
Don't get my thread locked, I need some answers :(

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@ Thrill - I just spent 16-20 hours lomming my char on Terra, lost a lot of levels and accidently gave him a totally wank setup :p

PM me sometime btw.

Androth
28-03-06, 11:21
This is due to the fact that the true formulas are not known. Neither is 100% accurate, however neoskiller seems to have more accurate results in comparison to actual game results.

RogerRamjet
28-03-06, 12:28
Try and find flip points in NF, and use neoskiller to make sure you use your points to the maximum.

giga191
28-03-06, 14:05
Finding flip points doesn't really work, since the game doesn't show decimals.