[OOC] Best (cartoon) animated film?

[unreal]

What do you think is the best animated cartoon film?

For me it would have to be The Land Before Time, Littlefoot would whoop yo ass in NeoFrag any time of day. :)

lol @ the thought of that as a Theme Week.

Little Red Riding Hood vs Snow White
Grumpy and Sneezy vs Santa Claus

[canuma100]

Wallace and Gromit :lol:

[Nidhogg]

Spirited Away, then Ghost In The Shell. Actually, the boat trip scene in GITS is probably my fave animated scene of all time. The music is a massive part of that.

N

[Cor]

Blood The Last Vampire

[Dribble Joy]

Gits.

[PepsiPlayer]

For me it would have to be the CG part in the Animatrix set of films, the fight scene at the begining is awsome, not to mention the bird in it looks quite fit ;)

[Skusty]

Dunno accually. :p

[F3Speech]

For me it would have to be the CG part in the Animatrix set of films, the fight scene at the begining is awsome, not to mention the bird in it looks quite fit ;)
Not seen that yet, keep thinking about it but it is the same as the matrix or is this a whole new story :confused:

[Tratos]

Im sorry but the ultimate in animated film (if not ultimate Disney film) is Alice in Wonderland.

Im sure the artists, writers and the entirity of Disney were on crack when they made that film. It Rocks.

[Super Mario]

The Lion King hands down!!

[Paper Dragon]

Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker.

Not the greatest thing EVER, of course, but the original - uncensored - version was remarkably adult and mature, given it's intended audience.

[XaNToR]

street fighter the animated movie... so lovely drawed....u barely see that anymore nowadays

[Richard Slade]

Blood The Last Vampire
QFT

NGE has my vote too

[Nidhogg]

I wasn't taken with "Blood. The Last Vampire". It started great (in the subway) but it really lost its way toward the end. I much prefer Cowboy Bebop.

N

[Blausiegel]

Bleach! ;)

[sanityislost]

My Neighbour totoro, Howls moving castle, spirted away, princess mononoke, gits, akira.......sorry i couldnt just pick one :/


SiL ..:..

[Dribble Joy]

Initial D.

The animation in the first series is a bit pap, but the story is good.
Amazing how the simple act of loading a car onto a trailer can be emotional :p.

[Blausiegel]

Oh no...not Initial D!
In fact i agree on the good action, but the story is kinda repeating itself.
But the father of the protagonist gets 5 stars for incredible coolness. :D

[Kame]

I have a lot of background TV when i NC.

On that cartoon channel what i like is Ren & Stimpy (close up FTW), and when they used to put SPAWN.
I so,so dug those cartoons.

Akira is the first anime i ever really looked out for after i had read the BD and i disappointed. A lot. It shouldve been 13 small episodes not 1 movie.

[Dribble Joy]

I completely forgot Akira.. oh well....

I would say Appleseed, but despite the interesting animation method, it was a crap film.

[PepsiPlayer]

Not seen that yet, keep thinking about it but it is the same as the matrix or is this a whole new story :confused:

its the parts that fill in where each film stops and how the matrix came about, sort of

[giga191]

For me it would have to be The Land Before Time, it would be a tie between that and spirited away (the only 2 cartoon movies that i can remember seeing)

[Nixon]

Berserk.

[suler]

An american tale.

PS. I always thought ghost in the shell was overrated, however it gets credit for being one of the big movies that exposed the rest of the world to japanese animation.

PSS. We're talking films not series' right?

[Rob01m]

An american tale.


I remember that. :D

[Nixon]

Yeah well, if it's a movie then it's probably Rurouni Kenshin.

I did like GITS too it's quite legendary..

[-FN-]

Am I allowed to pick "Stewie Griffin - The Untold Story (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0385690/)"? Because I'm not picking some anime movie that makes my brain hurt because I can't follow the plot line when all the ninja fighting and grunting ends and there's some twisted sex scene with a 15 year old crying girl...

[unreal]

Pick whatever you like... anime != animated :p

I wonder if there'll ever be a Sponge Bob Square Pants: The Movie? Scary thought. 8|

[Koshinn]

Pick whatever you like... anime != animated :p

I wonder if there'll ever be a Sponge Bob Square Pants: The Movie? Scary thought. 8|

Technically, anime = animated, but animated != anime. :p

I like Jin-Roh, personally.

[Tratos]

I wonder if there'll ever be a Sponge Bob Square Pants: The Movie? Scary thought. 8|
There was one, The Hoff was in it and everything.
http://www.dailyceleb.com/thumbs/tn.DC.208815.jpghttp://www.originalalamo.com/images/spongebob.jpg

You fear it.

[-FN-]

I wonder if there'll ever be a Sponge Bob Square Pants: The Movie? Scary thought. 8|
Damn you Tratos for beating me to it... (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0345950/)

http://i.imdb.com/Photos/Ss/0345950/SBSP-KeyArt1.jpg

[Napalm82]

The Danish Movie "Valhalla" why ye ask?

1: The art in that movie is simply great, it may not be super purdy and all that, but that kinda looks gives the charecters so much more life.

2: Soundtrack is also pretty good

3: Its Norse mythology...i mean, who doesnt love Thor? the angry god who'd rather cave your head in than give a smile?

4: All the charecters have a great personality, the script was well made to fit the different charecters without it being one big jumble of fucked up persons

5: Its semi-true to Norse Mythology (Do note semi)

6: Did i mention Thor is in it? angry god?

- Nap

[canuma100]

oh yeah Danaish cartoons are realy known in the world :lol:

[Napalm82]

It didnt say it had to be well known :D

Altho one might be able to dig it out, the DVD IS dubbed and subtitled to different languages, but its old.

- Nap

[Clive tombstone]

Okay, Heres meh list
Last Exile (awsome steampunk)
Ergo Proxy (theres only one episode thus far, and its badly subbed, but WATCH IT)
-Anything done by Miyazaki-
Samurai Champloo
Blue Submarine No. 6(its too damn short!)
THe Incredibles
Dead leaves (wierd Movie done by the guys behind FLCL, nuff said)
Mind game (wierd movie with some live action)

Oldies
-Akira
-Starblazers (or anything in the Capt Harlock universe)

More when i remember

[Wouter]

hellsing , spirited away and crying freeman :)

[Terayon]

Robin hood, the one where he is the fox. Cant even remember the name, but it was awesome.

Also for movies, realy liked cowboy bebop, but i liked its series way more.

[DetectiveKimble]

... I'm not picking some anime movie that makes my brain hurt because I can't follow the plot line when all the ninja fighting and grunting ends and there's some twisted sex scene with a 15 year old crying girl...

Quote for absolute truth. Anime's fucked up, nobody really likes it. I try like every other geek to watch it and enjoy it but i end up watching what i think is a fight scene, and for no reason the girl is fighting naked (or nearly) and then suddenly they're having sex.

Akira had a pretty cool musical score, and a couple neat scenes. I really liked the look of "Beyond" on the animatrix dvd. And I thought Trigun had a cool idea and style when i watched some of it on TV, but that was a series.

[Clive tombstone]

Quote for absolute truth. Anime's fucked up, nobody really likes it. I try like every other geek to watch it and enjoy it but i end up watching what i think is a fight scene, and for no reason the girl is fighting naked (or nearly) and then suddenly they're having sex.

Akira had a pretty cool musical score, and a couple neat scenes. I really liked the look of "Beyond" on the animatrix dvd. And I thought Trigun had a cool idea and style when i watched some of it on TV, but that was a series.

Heheh, then I guess you like stuff that is quote "fucked up" ehh? since lets see, Animatrix is "Anime", Trigun is "Anime" and oh yeah AKIRA is F***ING "ANIME" :D
Sorry, but you just cant generalize an art form like that. Yes I know its a little wonky to call anime an Art form, but it is. Any Style that reaches mass media on such a level as anime or Disney, IS an art form or style. But there are a lot of sub styles to these genres, so if you can please attack the minority (or in this case, the "majority" which happens to be the stereo typical 90's crap anime's that were mass produced (and even still today)). I could go off on a huge tangent and re-tell how anime was first introduced (since I have a UBER anime geek friend who (painstakingly) tells me of the crap he watches lol. But I wont, since (like myself) would probably make yer eyes(or whatever orifice of yer choice lol) bleed profusely.

But hey, not everyone likes anime, thats understandable, I myself, dislike a MAJORITY of the crap that comes out (and Im very contradictory since I like shows like Aqua teen hungerforce and Perfect hair forever). Just try and "study" before yeh make a decision to hate somethin, thats how major conflicts start heheh. And if yeh study something and yeh hate it, kick the crap outa it, those are the best kinds of fights lol.

PS-Trigun rocked too :D

PEace out

[landofcake]

Gotta disagree Nid, i still think the best part of GITS is the part where the puppet master wakes up, sort of.

[a4nic8er]

Fritz The Cat

http://www.bouska.com/fritzthecat/indexus.htm

[-sf-]

Hikaru no Go
Rurouni Kenshin
City Hunter
ranma 1/2
thats what i watch for breakfast and dinner time :)

[Kame]

If u guys really liked the movie AKIRA you should check the original BD out.

Its got like 13 books + 2 photo albums, and the story is so much better.

[Clive tombstone]

the original graphic novel of Akira? yeah its really nice I must admit.

[suler]

Akira is the most boring movie of all time, besdes the scene in ninja turtles where they're at the farm.

PS I think kimble was still talking about anime he thought was ok so no need to point out he was talking about anime.

[Winston Smith]

what was that liquid television short that was about the futuristic racecar driver? It was narrated by a private eye sort of guy observing the racer. But the race driver could move things with his mind and at the end when he beats all the other racers he races all the ghosts of racers that died on the tracks. Awesome cartoon but I never caught the name of it. And no it wasn't speedracer.

[Scanner Darkly]

Akira, Ghost in the Shell, Princess Mononoke and Nausicaa of the Valey of the Wind are all amongst my favourites.

"Anime is fucked up, nobody really likes it"

Do you have any other helpful generalisations? They say ignorance is bliss...

[eLcHi]

Heh, my all time favourite would be

Bubblegum Crisis series :)

I also liked Nausicaa of the Valey of the Wind, GITS ... and the Project A-Ko ones (don`t laugh ;) )

From the animation i was really impressed with Silent Moebius ... friend had some really expensive special edition on LD .... woah, that was really good

[Dribble Joy]

Yes... must not flame the ignorants...

Some people are utterly engrossed in anime, and discard anything else on principle.
The point they usually try to make is that with an animation, you are not limited by the capabilities of human actors (and the laws surrounding them) or the special effects quality. In doing so you are open to explore any story concept possible. They then usually cite western animation as being stuck in an assumption that cartoons = for kids and therefore anime = ftw.

While I agree to some extent, I consider anime alongside anyother visual medium, and compare them on the same level. Anime allows you to break the bonds of live action, but human actors are usually better at portraying characters, whichever is best is judged case by case.

Someone a while ago said that The Matrix just = anime, which is wrong, it's merely reached a point where the special effects can combine to provide something of equal visual depth for the same storyline.
That said the Wakowski Bros. were/are heavily influenced by anime.

Essentially it comes down to the storyline and the writing, whether that is more suited to anime or live action is irrelevant.

[Tratos]

They then usually cite western animation as being stuck in an assumption that cartoons = for kids and therefore anime = ftw.
Plus, Family Guy and American Dad are deffinetly not for kids.

<3 Seth MacFarlane

[Dribble Joy]

True. Though to be honest, most of western animation for adults is comedy, other than a very few one like batman, there's no real dark stuff.

It's kinda odd, anime is making such a headway in the US/UK you would think people would want to make stuff that would appeal.

[suler]

Someone a while ago said that The Matrix just = anime, which is wrong, it's merely reached a point where the special effects can combine to provide something of equal visual depth for the same storyline.
That said the Wakowski Bros. were/are heavily influenced by anime.


True but they were also heavily influenced by john woo, hong kong blood operas, and wuxia. Those get lumped in with anime alot for some reason.

[Paper Dragon]

Yeah, Anime is amazing, wonderful, etc.

Then you realise it's responsible for stuff like Bible Black and LA Blue Girl, then lose hope.

[Nidhogg]

I seem to remember you recommending Bible Black to me once upon a time. ;)

N

[Dribble Joy]

Ah... bible black..... a classic bit of hentai.

Androgenous nurses possessed by the devil, what more could you ask for?

[Tratos]

Androgenous nurses possessed by the devil, what more could you ask for?
Tentacles?

-shudders-

I do agree on the western animation being mainly comedy point and it is a bit weird that western companies havnt tried to cash in on anime-style plots.

[Rob01m]

Tentacle sex FTW! o_O

[Dribble Joy]

Oddly enough there's only one tentacle scene in Bible black, and that's in the prequel when they accidentally raise a demon.

Teh funneh. (http://www.weebls-stuff.com/wab/hentai/)

[Paper Dragon]

I seem to remember you recommending Bible Black to me once upon a time. ;)

N

Shush, the actual content of the series has no bearing whatsoever on whether or not it's watchable. :p

[Retro V]

Tentacle sex FTW! o_O
Urotsukidoji, anyone ?

[Paper Dragon]

To elaborate a little, I suppose:

Anime is a wonderful thing, of course, but you get the aformentioned smut that kind of brings down it's impact. It's like using the world's most powerful computer to view pornography of the like; just seems a bit....under-whelming.

Same could be said of Western animation, of course.

[Heavyporker]

NOT androgynous. That means without sexual features. It's like when you can't tell if someone is male/female.


If you mean someone who has BOTH sets of sexual.... equipment, then you're talking about hermaphrodites.



Oh, and its not an animated film, but I *loved* Batman Beyond. Just kicked so much ass. The new JLA Extreme (or whatever) on Cartoon Network nowadays look pretty good too.


But... oh my gosh, I was so happy when they stopped that butchery of a new batman. I was ready to puke.

[Richard Slade]

I still vote Neon Genesis Evangelion on top..

Nothing says love like tons amount of gigantic bleeding angels and tons of references to the book of Revelation :D

[Dribble Joy]

EVA was even more pretentious than a Roman Poliakov film....

[Opar]

The Nightmare Before Christmas.

Tim Burton's stop motion at it's best. Genius.

[eggplane]

Princess Mononoke
Jin Roh
Antz

[DetectiveKimble]

Evangelion was so bad. I sat through the whole box set on recommendation, it made my face bleed. I was like PHWOAR BIG ROBOTS! LET'S DO THIS! but then it's constantly interjected with this god damn kid fresh from the pages of livejournal whining and crying and angsting and RUINING EVERYTHING with his "WHY DON'T YOU LOVE ME DADDY" crap. And then he rubs one out to the russian chick while she's in hospital, i mean wtf was that about :wtf:


Some people are utterly engrossed in anime, and discard anything else on principle.
The point they usually try to make is that with an animation, you are not limited by the capabilities of human actors (and the laws surrounding them) or the special effects quality. In doing so you are open to explore any story concept possible. They then usually cite western animation as being stuck in an assumption that cartoons = for kids and therefore anime = ftw.

While I agree to some extent, I consider anime alongside anyother visual medium, and compare them on the same level. Anime allows you to break the bonds of live action, but human actors are usually better at portraying characters, whichever is best is judged case by case.

Huzzah, a voice of reason in this mini sakuracon! Nothing's worse than elitist anime fans.

[Dribble Joy]

Asuka was German but nevermind.

Oh, and she DOES get torn to pieces at the end. The scene at the very end with her and Kenji was added later after EVA fans picketed the studio's HQ.

[DetectiveKimble]

Sorry, german. I guess the red hair and red suit threw me off...

[IceStorm]

Three pages and no one's mentioned:

South Park: Bigger, Longer, and Uncut (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0158983)

Geez...

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Anime is a unique animation style that has evolved in part due to budget constraints that limit it to about 1/3 the frames of American animated works. Virtually any story can be told using this animation style. Look at The Boondocks - Dai Sato, the writer for Cowboy Bebop, Samurai Champloo,and Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex, considers The Boondocks to be anime from a techincal standpoint, using the same limited animation technique. Now who here DOESN'T like The Boondocks? :-)

There is definitely a cultural difference between Japan and Western societies that comes through in anime storylines and dialog. While many may hail NGE, or GitS/GitS:SAC as the end-all, be-all, they're not. There's much, much more out there. NGE and GitS are particularly bad from a culture-clash standpoint.

I considered RahXephon to be the non-whiny version of NGE. The new series Eureka Seven, though, takes young, non-whiny protagonist to a whole new level. In E7, Renton still makes mistakes, but he's much closer in type to a typical Western 14 yr old than Shinji, and has far more "fire" than RahXephon's Ayato. It's the most western-styled Japanese series I've seen as of late, and a refreshing change of pace after Gundam SEED Destiny.

Writing off anime because of several bad movie/series is like writing off live-action movies after watching Uwe Boll's film collection. If all you're watching is cuturally abrasive series, of course you're not going to like anime. Find friends who have a clue and can recommend less problematic series.

[Clive tombstone]

Honestly, im with Kimble, I watches EVA from start to finish (the directors cut episodes as well, and the move [Sigh, I want my 13 hours of my life back!]) It was a "Good" series, but the main character "Shingie (probably wrong spelling) was almost to Emo for reality. And the ending just made me mad. Honestly, Im fine with a little religion in an anime, but to the extent they dragged it was a bit much. One thing I did like however was the Irony in the show. When any of the characters would say my god, its kinda funny, because theoretically, thats whos trying to kill em lol.

For those of you who dont know the plot and or wont watch EVA (do yerself a favor, watch ONE episode, and judge it yerself), The plot is this Man is in the future, Man reachs for the "tree of life" God & Angels who defend this "tree" attack man, adam (first angel) comes to kick mans ass, but gets captured, and clones of him are made (eva's) [Thats first impact] 15years later or so, SHingi is a wussy- pilots a robot, meets 2 psycho chicks, they pilot giant robots to. SHingies still a pussy, kills angels and so on. 15-20 episodes later, It all goes to the shitter (even more so) Shingies dad screws shit up, people betray each other, and the humanity is destroyed. The end.

personally I wish it was more like this (PS read the second comic as well :D )
http://www.punksandnerds.com/comics/20051202.gif
fuck it, heres the second one anywho lol
http://www.punksandnerds.com/comics/20051205a.gif
Honestly, i feel bad for taking more space on this thread, go to Punksandnerds.com for the rest of the comic. :D

[Dribble Joy]

There's only one thing that annoys me about anime, and I don't think it's just a culture clash.

Too many of them present issues/questions to the viewer/reader, but by the end of it, instead of exploring it and leaving it open for you to decide, they decide for you, and on really subjective topics too.

Trigun was good, but it did this so much, drove me mad.

[Kame]

Wow clive i so dug that cominc u posted.

Seriously a girl i know had me watch the whole shit cuz she really tought it was the shit.

I wanted to puke at the end.

This thing is a lot like NC, the premise is good, big robots, clones and guns the size of building.
And then it turns out to be some emo-ass series.
All this because of shinji, hes the worst main char ive ever seen.
Anytime its about him in the show its wack.

No need to say that me and that girl didnt last very long...

[Clive tombstone]

Phss, fine, I got some PM's from someone, i wont say who *nudge* heres the last comic, you lazy bastard. :D
http://www.punksandnerds.com/comics/20051205b.gif

Anywho, coming back to EVA, it wasnt horrible, far from it, but it just was way to emotional, I know my summary really jumped some major plot spots, but really thats all that happens, and all of humanity turning into LCL? that was lame as fuck as well.

Oh fuck I forgot what Animation I was gonna suggest. Think it was "Mind Game", Wierd fuckin movie but it was cool.

[Dribble Joy]

Want some headfuck? Try Serial Experiments: Lain.

[Kame]

Oh and Shrek 2 was funny as hell.

[nobby]

Naruto for the Win !

[suler]

I think one of the main differences between anime and our cartoons is due to how they came about. Anime basically came directly from their comics and has evolved alongside their comics. However our cartoons are a completely different entity then our comics, and whenever you do see a cartoon based on a comic it gets compared to anime.

[Dribble Joy]

Naruto for the Win !
You can die. Die with an icepick in your damn nobby's nuts.

Oddly enough, people forget how much an influence western comics/animation have had on manga/anime.
It my not be directly apparent, but it's there.

[Dirus]

Drawn Together. Nothing like a cartoon that rips everything from reality shows to video games and everything in between.

Duckman.

Currently watching Naruto & Bleach.

Ruroni Kenshin was alright. Tho at times it made me want to shut off and never touch it again. I think they took the "whiney women" bit a little too far, killed my enjoyment of it most of the time. Kinda glad theres no more episodes of it to watch.

[Heavyporker]

You know what I find so damn weird?


All these blondes in these set-in-Japan anime. Just.... odd.


Anyways, I admit I watch Naruto. It's oddly compelling.


Oh, anyone watch Bobobobo-bobo Bobobo-bo Bbobobobobooboboboboboboboboob?

[Uho]

DR. Snuggles FTW!

[Scaramanga]

Has to be the Lord of the rings animated movie (can't remeber how many were ever made but this one is about 30 yrs old). Style of having silhouettes (sp) and animation worked really well, especially when Boromir gets shot lots.

[Dribble Joy]

All these blondes in these set-in-Japan anime. Just.... odd.
Differentiating caharacters by hair style/colour is far easier than facial changes.

[Clive tombstone]

Im guessing though one thing about anime, is that 50% of all blonds live in Anime japan, which is sad, since Blonds only make up 13% of the actual population lol.

BTW I saw some episodes of Eurika Seven, its really awsome in my opinion, specifically since I'm a surfer, and the thought of riding waves of energy in the sky sounds pretty cool (and its really well animated)

[imper1um]

You cannot beat Princess Mononoke

[Redburn]

Anyone remember "Heavy Metal" circa 1981.... Dam now I'm showing my age.....LOL

http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0082509/


Peace all...

[DER_julu]

Has to be the Lord of the rings animated movie (can't remeber how many were ever made but this one is about 30 yrs old). Style of having silhouettes (sp) and animation worked really well, especially when Boromir gets shot lots.

done by ralph bakshi - stunning movie.

[Rob01m]

Anyone remember "Heavy Metal" circa 1981.... Dam now I'm showing my age.....LOL

http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0082509/


Peace all...

That was cool. :D

[Agent L]

Jin-Rô (the wolf brigade)
Wallace and Groomit
Shrek 1&2 were cool too.

Well, actually I can't remeber watching many other animated films then manga. : (

Lain FTW, Dribble. Full Metal Alchemist is a nice one too.

[Heavyporker]

Harrrya! Fullmetal Alchemist kicks ass. I can't believe how much I love it.

I've started watching GITS: Stand Alone ever since Cartoon Network pulled its head out of its ass and started closed captioning it too. I have to say... it's interesting.

[Scaramanga]

Oddly enough, people forget how much an influence western comics/animation have had on manga/anime.
It my not be directly apparent, but it's there.

Anyone see that Documentary on manga, channel 4 last week?
Facking interesting. Never knew that the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki had such an affect on Japanese story telling, but then I'm only a brickie :)

[Scaramanga]

/bump

Just watched Ghost in the shell.
Rather a good film, enjoyed it much more than any other manga film i can remember.
Think I'll be buying GITS 2 Innocence.