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Bredahl
15-02-06, 02:53
need some help on making my current setup better, as you can see its not very fast, but if needed i always have a whiteflash in QB. It has pretty good resists and cap judge dmg, freq is very close to cap, but freq on my judge is only at 118..
It HAS to be no PA.. just because its sexy ;)
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Character Overview for No-PA Judge PE

Character Class: Private Eye
Ranking: 45/66



-----------Intelligence-----------
Current: 67 7
Skill: Hacking = 100 25
Skill: Barter = 0 0
Skill: PSI Use = 92 25
Skill: Weapon Lore = 105 23
Skill: Construction = 0 0
Skill: Research = 0 0
Skill: Implant = 20 20
Skill: Willpower = 0 0

-----------Strength-----------
Current: 63 3
Skill: Melee Combat = 4 4
Skill: Heavy Combat = 6 6
Skill: Transport = 89 6
Skill: Resist Force = 113 8

-----------Constitution-----------
Current: 63 -2
Skill: Athletics = 87 37
Skill: Body Health = 105 33
Skill: Endurance = 8 8
Skill: Resist Fire = 53 15
Skill: Resist Energy = 70 15
Skill: Resist X-Ray = 91 45
Skill: Resist Poison = 67 35

-----------Dexterity-----------
Current: 100 20
Skill: Pistol Combat = 168 30
Skill: Rifle Combat = 0 0
Skill: HighTech Combat = 83 14
Skill: Vehicle Use = 0 0
Skill: Agility = 64 54
Skill: Repair = 0 0
Skill: Recycle = 0 0
Skill: Remote Control = 0 0

-----------PSI-----------
Current: 40 5
Skill: Passive PSI Use = 80 0
Skill: Agressive PSI Use = 0 0
Skill: Mental Steadiness = 50 0
Skill: PSI Power = 7 0
Skill: Resist PSI = 0 0

-------Character Inventory-------
Inquisition Helmet 2 (Helmet)
Viper King Armor (Vest)
Medium Energy Protection Belt (Belt)
Inquisition Trousers 2 (Trousers)
Crahn Holy Shelter Boots (Boots)
Special Forces CPU (Brain Chip)
MC5 Synaptic Accelerator CPU (Brain Chip)
Protopharm Resistor Chip (Brain Chip)
BioTech (M.O.V.E.O.N) CPU (Brain Chip)
Pistol CombatEye 3 (Eye)
Filter Heart 2 (Heart)
Gaya Tacholytium Gauntlet (Glove)
ReflexBooster 4 (Spine)
Biotech AntiGamma Headbone (Headbone)
Biotech AntiGamma Chest Enforcement (Chest)
Biotech AntiGamma Arm Enforcement (Arm)
Experimental Leg Enforcement (Leg)
Experimental Foot Enforcement (Foot)
Shelter (Shelter)
Deflector (Deflector)
Pistol Combat Booster 1 (Combat)
Spy Booster 1 (Support)
Hazard Resist Booster 1 (Resist)
Nightspider (Drug)
Redflash (Drug)
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HLT: 420 --- FOR: 201 - PIR: 197 - FIR: 120 - ENR: 125 - XRR: 125 - POR: 97

Dribble Joy
15-02-06, 03:02
With your wep/pc skillings, you should hit freq cap with no problem, unless you mean 118 quaility, not 118 rpm.

Your agl is a little low and your psi setup is completely borked.

Try the br3, not the haz1, better point efficiency, ditch the exp foot/leg for gamma, the agl/atl loss is more than made up for in the xray gain.

Your hp is a little low. I have 473 hp, 125 f/x and 130 e with 88 agl/atl.
I do use PA3, but the energy gain is less than the por gain on the VK, so you should have more over all then I do.

Bredahl
15-02-06, 04:14
okay trying something without POR.. green dragon is your friend ;)
Dont really care about the POR, its pretty rare i meet a Dev or something like that.. only thing i dont like is the pretty much lowered FOR..

And yes my AGL is very low lol, but just cant any ideas how i should get more without using PA (thats why i wont go without the exp foot hehe)

Oh and about my judge i get: DMG 178% - Aim 267% - Freq 177/min
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Character Overview for No-PA Judge PE2

Character Class: Private Eye
Ranking: 44/68

No POR, but more HLT, other resists are higher and more ATL

-----------Intelligence-----------
Current: 67 7
Skill: Hacking = 100 25
Skill: Barter = 0 0
Skill: PSI Use = 92 25
Skill: Weapon Lore = 105 23
Skill: Construction = 0 0
Skill: Research = 0 0
Skill: Implant = 20 20
Skill: Willpower = 0 0

-----------Strength-----------
Current: 63 3
Skill: Melee Combat = 4 4
Skill: Heavy Combat = 6 6
Skill: Transport = 107 6
Skill: Resist Force = 113 23

-----------Constitution-----------
Current: 71 6
Skill: Athletics = 91 30
Skill: Body Health = 127 48
Skill: Endurance = 8 8
Skill: Resist Fire = 30 30
Skill: Resist Energy = 76 30
Skill: Resist X-Ray = 85 15
Skill: Resist Poison = 0 -15

-----------Dexterity-----------
Current: 100 20
Skill: Pistol Combat = 168 30
Skill: Rifle Combat = 0 0
Skill: HighTech Combat = 83 14
Skill: Vehicle Use = 0 0
Skill: Agility = 64 54
Skill: Repair = 0 0
Skill: Recycle = 0 0
Skill: Remote Control = 0 0

-----------PSI-----------
Current: 40 5
Skill: Passive PSI Use = 76 0
Skill: Agressive PSI Use = 0 0
Skill: Mental Steadiness = 48 0
Skill: PSI Power = 21 0
Skill: Resist PSI = 0 0

-------Character Inventory-------
Inquisition Helmet 2 (Helmet)
Titan Armor (Vest)
Medium Energy Protection Belt (Belt)
Inquisition Trousers 2 (Trousers)
Crahn Holy Shelter Boots (Boots)
Special Forces CPU (Brain Chip)
MC5 Synaptic Accelerator CPU (Brain Chip)
Protopharm Resistor Chip (Brain Chip)
BioTech (M.O.V.E.O.N) CPU (Brain Chip)
Pistol CombatEye 3 (Eye)
Strengthen Heart 2 (Heart)
Gaya Tacholytium Gauntlet (Glove)
ReflexBooster 4 (Spine)
Biotech AntiGamma Headbone (Headbone)
Biotech AntiGamma Chest Enforcement (Chest)
Biotech AntiGamma Arm Enforcement (Arm)
Biotech AntiGamma Leg Enforcement (Leg)
Experimental Foot Enforcement (Foot)
Shelter (Shelter)
Blessed Deflector (Deflector)
Pistol Combat Booster 1 (Combat)
Spy Booster 1 (Support)
Basic Resist Booster 3 (Resist)
Nightspider (Drug)
Redflash (Drug)
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HLT: 500 --- FOR: 178 - PIR: 193 - FIR: 140 - ENR: 130 - XRR: 130 - POR: 0

Dribble Joy
15-02-06, 04:21
One big problem there.

Str heart 2.

Get rid of it.

Look at your xray base value, it's way over 50.

There's little point in a PE having above 125 in any resist (force/pierce is slightly different), you will gain more in the way of defence by having more hp.
Having base resist values above 50 is not point efficient. You have 70 base xray there, that's 40 points spent getting 20 resist, that's 13 more htl.

Put in a filter 2, aim for 125 f/x/e, get 140 minimum agl+atl and then start utting points elsewhere.

edit:
Here's what I might do. Not an absolute solution though.

Bredahl
15-02-06, 15:26
okay thanks.. im just gonna try and work on the setup a little more hehe ;)

sultana
16-02-06, 10:45
Here's how I would do it (used to do it). Not as much health/resists as yours, but more speed, I guess. I don't like relying on whiteflash for runspeed and there's hardly a noticeable change in the resists. Easily caps a Judge aswell, you could probably drop psu/wep for hack if you wanted to.

No PA Judge PEs were so much better in Nc1 though. With this setup, 170pc/118wep, I only just hit the damage cap.

P.S Junkie copied me.

Bugs Gunny
16-02-06, 11:13
Character Overview for Multitasking judge pe

Character Class: Private Eye
Sex: Male
Server: None
Ranking: 46/68

None

-----------Intelligence-----------
Max Skill: 60
Current: 67 7
Skill: Hacking = 98 25
Skill: Barter = 0 0
Skill: PSI Use = 102 25
Skill: Weapon Lore = 90 38
Skill: Construction = 0 0
Skill: Research = 0 0
Skill: Implant = 69 20
Skill: Willpower = 0 0

-----------Strength-----------
Max Skill: 60
Current: 63 3
Skill: Melee Combat = 4 4
Skill: Heavy Combat = 87 6
Skill: Transport = 56 6
Skill: Resist Force = 102 8

-----------Constitution-----------
Max Skill: 65
Current: 73 8
Skill: Athletics = 103 30
Skill: Body Health = 139 53
Skill: Endurance = 24 23
Skill: Resist Fire = 31 15
Skill: Resist Energy = 22 15
Skill: Resist X-Ray = 48 -10
Skill: Resist Poison = 0 -15

-----------Dexterity-----------
Max Skill: 80
Current: 100 20
Skill: Pistol Combat = 168 38
Skill: Rifle Combat = 0 -20
Skill: HighTech Combat = 87 22
Skill: Vehicle Use = 37 0
Skill: Agility = 69 48
Skill: Repair = 0 0
Skill: Recycle = 0 0
Skill: Remote Control = 0 0

-----------PSI-----------
Max Skill: 35
Current: 40 5
Skill: Passive PSI Use = 74 0
Skill: Agressive PSI Use = 0 0
Skill: Mental Steadiness = 48 0
Skill: PSI Power = 26 0
Skill: Resist PSI = 0 0

-------Character Inventory-------
Slot: Helmet - Inquisition Helmet 2
Influences: FIR: 33 PRC: 14 FOR: 12

Slot: Vest - Duranit Armorvest 3
Influences: PRC: 24 FOR: 22 ENR: 18

Slot: Belt - Medium Energy Protection Belt
Influences: ENR: 48 FOR: 20

Slot: Trousers - Inquisition Trousers 2
Influences: FOR: 12 PRC: 14 FIR: 32

Slot: Boots - Crahn Holy Shelter Boots
Influences: FOR: 3 PRC: 3 FIR: 7 ENR: 14 XRR: 7

Slot: Brain Chip - Targeting Computer 3
Influences: WEP: 15 P-C: 8 T-C: 8 R-C: -20

Slot: Brain Chip - BioTech (M.O.V.E.O.N) CPU
Influences: STR: 3 CON: 3 M-C: 6 H-C: 6 TRA: 6 FOR: 8 HLT: 18

Slot: Brain Chip - Special Forces CPU
Influences: INT: 5 DEX: 5 HCK: 10 WEP: 10 P-C: 5 R-C: 5 T-C: 5

Slot: Brain Chip - MC5 Synaptic Accelerator CPU
Influences: INT: 5 DEX: 6 HCK: 10 WEP: 10 P-C: 5 R-C: 5 T-C: 5

Slot: Eye - Pistol CombatEye 3
Influences: P-C: 15 WEP: 10 M-C: -10 R-C: -10

Slot: Heart - Experimental Heart 2
Influences: END: 15 HLT: 15 CON: 5 XRR: -10 POR: -15

Slot: Glove - Gaya Tacholytium Gauntlet
Influences: PSU: 20 PSI Energy: 50 PSI Cap: 50

Slot: Spine - ReflexBooster 4
Influences: AGL: 15 ATL: 5 DEX: 4 INT: -3 WEP: -10

Slot: Headbone - Biotech AntiGamma Headbone
Influences: XRR: 17 PRC: 10

Slot: Chest - Biotech AntiGamma Chest Enforcement
Influences: XRR: 10 END: 8

Slot: Arm - Biotech AntiGamma Arm Enforcement
Influences: M-C: 8 XRR: 9

Slot: Leg - Biotech AntiGamma Leg Enforcement
Influences: XRR: 10 ATL: 8

Slot: Foot - Biotech AntiGamma Foot Enforcement
Influences: AGL: 8 XRR: 4

Slot: Shelter - Shelter
Influences: SHEL: 35

Slot: Deflector - Blessed Deflector
Influences: DEFL: 45

Slot: Combat - Pistol Combat Booster 1
Influences: P-C: 5 T-C: 4 WEP: 3

Slot: Support - Spy Booster 1
Influences: HCK: 5 IMP: 4 AGL: 3

Slot: Resist - Basic Resist Booster 3
Influences: HLT: 20 FOR: 15 FIR: 15 ENR: 15

Slot: Drug - Nightspider
Influences: PSI: 5 PSU: 20 IMP: 16 FOR: -15

Slot: Drug - Redflash
Influences: DEX: 5 AGL: 22 ATL: 17 PSU: -15
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Health 528, with a beast will cap reveler gun, also drives reveler.
Pokes all but mc5's.
This character will make you rich if you build your own drugs and hunt techs.
Also you'll do quite good at pvp, even with low resists.
If you wanna have some fun, try the tl55 plasma cannon with a beast on and db the target, you'll be surprised at how much dammage it does.

fjutte
16-02-06, 14:25
Shhhh Bugs! You're saying to much; soon everyone will go hunt for my PE ;)

Bredahl
16-02-06, 17:30
hehe cool setup Bugs :) but wont a xbow pretty much rip me apart..? :rolleyes:

Bugs Gunny
16-02-06, 17:48
Depends who is using the xbow.
I'd say on that setup about 42-43 per shot.
But look on the bright side you have a lot of health, no xbow use will outheal a revelergun if you're in it. And this is a multitasking setup, which allows you do do it all.

Spermy
16-02-06, 18:06
Character Class: Private Eye
Ranking: 42/67

None

-----------Intelligence-----------
Current: 67 7
Skill: Hacking = 23 23
Skill: Barter = 0 0
Skill: PSI Use = 35 -15
Skill: Weapon Lore = 136 20
Skill: Construction = 0 0
Skill: Research = 0 0
Skill: Implant = 4 4
Skill: Willpower = 0 0

-----------Strength-----------
Current: 63 3
Skill: Melee Combat = 0 -1
Skill: Heavy Combat = 108 -4
Skill: Transport = 36 6
Skill: Resist Force = 102 +38

-----------Constitution-----------
Current: 71 6
Skill: Athletics = 96 46
Skill: Body Health = 156 57
Skill: Endurance = 30 30
Skill: Resist Fire = 54 15
Skill: Resist Energy = 21 15
Skill: Resist X-Ray = 35 25
Skill: Resist Poison = 73 30

-----------Dexterity-----------
Current: 103 23
Skill: Pistol Combat = 143 23
Skill: Rifle Combat = 0 -15
Skill: HighTech Combat = 83 23
Skill: Vehicle Use = 0 -20
Skill: Agility = 145 64
Skill: Repair = 0 0
Skill: Recycle = 0 0
Skill: Remote Control = 0 0

-----------PSI-----------
Current: 32 -3
Skill: Passive PSI Use = 81 0
Skill: Agressive PSI Use = 0 0
Skill: Mental Steadiness = 25 -6
Skill: PSI Power = 23 0
Skill: Resist PSI = 0 0

-------Character Inventory-------
Inquisition Helmet 2 (Helmet)
Tangent Close Range BattleSuit V-30 (Vest)
Medium Poison Protection Belt (Belt)
Duranit Trousers 2 (Trousers)
Light Duranium Boots (Boots)
BioTech (M.O.V.E.O.N) CPU (Brain Chip)
Protopharm Resistor Chip (Brain Chip)
Special Forces CPU (Brain Chip)
Targeting Computer 3 (Brain Chip)
Smart CyberEye 4 (Eye)
Filter Heart 2 (Heart)
Crahn Power Gauntlet (Glove)
Experimental ReflexBooster 4 (Spine)
Biotech AntiGamma Headbone (Headbone)
Biotech AntiGamma Chest Enforcement (Chest)
Biotech AntiGamma Arm Enforcement (Arm)
Biotech AntiGamma Leg Enforcement (Leg)
Biotech AntiGamma Foot Enforcement (Foot)
Shelter (Shelter)
Deflector (Deflector)
Melee Combat Booster 1 (Combat)
Spy Booster 1 (Support)
Basic Resist Booster 2 (Resist)
Redflash (Drug)
Whiteflash (Drug)
Paratemol forte (Drug)
Hemoserol (Drug)
Paratemol (Drug)
Epantenarol (Drug)
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This ones - reasonable as a judge PE, but I'd rather see a TAPS on there.

You only really need Red and whiteflash, the others are mainly for a fleshing out of skills.

Health 545
Resists All around 70ish

He'll do just fine in PvP. He can also Gun a reveller if he wants to. As a side choice possibly stick His HC into MC - give him a shocker. It won't do much, but not everyone knows that :p

EDIT - Whoops - he's got PA on.

<_<

>_>

Bredahl
16-02-06, 18:10
Depends who is using the xbow.
hehe thats true :p
BTW whats up with the Duranit Armor? :wtf:

Bredahl
17-02-06, 03:17
Skill: Weapon Lore = 136 20
Skill: Pistol Combat = 143 23


is it possible to cap judge with that..?

Bugs Gunny
17-02-06, 08:34
Duranit armor, cuz i die a lot and it's cheap.

unreal
17-02-06, 12:10
For someone who helps out newbies at times by giving them PA and cash, you're saying you can't afford anything higher than duranit armour? :rolleyes:

Spermy
17-02-06, 12:19
For someone who helps out newbies at times by giving them PA and cash, you're saying you can't afford anything higher than duranit armour? :rolleyes:

Why nother with more? I'd rather lose a 12 K item than a 30 K one anyday.

Bugs Gunny
17-02-06, 12:29
For someone who helps out newbies at times by giving them PA and cash, you're saying you can't afford anything higher than duranit armour? :rolleyes:

I am LOADED with rares and cash.
The thing is, why in hell would i run around with a pa as a pe, when i can do it without and use a gaia glove.
Then second, duranit works for my setup, it's cheap to replace and a clannie won't have to cary around a pa when he retrieves his belt, he can just leave it there.
I'm also usualy never high FS enough to buy new pas, so at my rate of dropping belts i'd have to go shopping for a new 5 vest wardrobe every week, due to red sl beltdrops etc.

Dribble Joy
17-02-06, 15:30
Titan or VK isn't ahrd to find these days, I usually have 2 spare sets of them, not that I ever use them.
Sometimes put either on when I happen to be hunting with a PPU, cap judge without PA nd a pistol 3.

Foo
17-02-06, 18:54
on a side note , i like ur fetish sig bugs :) looking funkeh!