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SorkZmok
25-01-06, 23:38
Right, quick question. How much wep and r-c do i need to cap a Pain Easer? I got no clue about wep and i think it's roughly 164 r-c you need, depending on wep aswell. Any suggestions?

Thank you.

xyl_az
26-01-06, 00:06
why pain easer? ts assault rifle does basically the same dmg (around 3-5 dmg less per burst or something like that) and it requires alot less in r-c/wep.

you can cap TS with something around 120 wep and 150 rc, dunno about PE

Wouter
26-01-06, 00:25
why pain easer? ts assault rifle does basically the same dmg (around 3-5 dmg less per burst or something like that) and it requires alot less in r-c/wep.



pain easer got a swirley :D

for capping damage it doenst need that whole lot, dont know for ROF.
My pe got 175 or 180 dont know, and doing fine :)

Bugs Gunny
26-01-06, 00:44
Stop with the swirly allright?
Use tsunami rifle and spec some hack or poke.

Scaramanga
26-01-06, 01:38
TS epic rifle always done similar damage to Pain Easer, or it been increased since it was first introduced?``

LTA
26-01-06, 03:43
i think its a around 160 wl 175rc i near capped it with all int bar 55 specced in wep lore on my pe...and 177ish rc

am sure Kid knows enough about setups to choose his weapons at least it come across that way the times i met his rifle spy when he existed....:wtf:

IceStorm
26-01-06, 05:38
Tsunami assault, for me, seemed to do about 10 less per impact on a Warbot, so instead of 3x69, it was 3x59. I believe both were loaded with stock ammo.

I found the 30 less per burst to be somewhat annoying, but I'm used to using a Healing Light which makes the TAR and PE look lame.

SorkZmok
26-01-06, 07:57
Pain Easer got a swirly. CBA to look like all those cookie cutter PEs. :)

And it really can't be above 170 r-c, i capped my termi with 159 r-c and 120ish wep. It's just a 5 TL difference. TL 98 RoG caps at about 168 r-c already.

Blausiegel
26-01-06, 09:53
<<cookie cutter :p
Try it out with your 120 wpl and about 165 rc.

Edit: Side Question: Would a TSU rifle cap with 100 wpl and 160 rc? Seems like a close one to me ;)

Dargeshaad
26-01-06, 10:00
Edit: Side Question: Would a TSU rifle cap with 100 wpl and 160 rc? Seems like a close one to me ;)
I cap it (well not range) with 152RC and 82WPL, might even be able to shave off a few WPL

Blausiegel
26-01-06, 10:14
Mmmh thats great, thanks alot.
Dont think that i will use it for max range fights, so i might give it a try.

Bugs Gunny
26-01-06, 10:19
Kid, with a tsunami rifle you can cap runspeed, gun reveler, use viper king, have 501 health, good resists, including poison at 50%, hack 110, 128 stamina and you have a no drop weapon....... Screw the swirly.

-=Jismo=-
26-01-06, 10:51
u ony need about 100 wpl to cap a pe (with imps )

Zeninja
26-01-06, 16:22
You could even use a Glider (or assault glider) to snipe people at CRP with Tsu Rifle, that's a lot of fun and monks become history for you :D

Never tested Pe vs Ts damage for pvp, but I know the difference was ridiculous on mobs (I mean without a DB on, I remember of a post from Sultana or someone that said there was a pblm with TS dmg being overpowered when DBed)

xyl_az
26-01-06, 16:24
You could even use a Glider (or assault glider) to snipe people at CRP with Tsu Rifle, that's a lot of fun and monks become history for you :D

Never tested Pe vs Ts damage for pvp, but I know the difference was ridiculous on mobs.

in pvp thats about 5-8 dmg less per burst than PE

Zeninja
26-01-06, 16:26
in pvp thats about 5 dmg less per burst
There's no point at giving a number, since that difference depends on your opponents resists. You barely get a "5 dmg per burst" difference between the two guns on someone with zero prc/frc resist don't u ?

Bugs Gunny
26-01-06, 16:32
Maybe this helps:

A mob that takes 50 per bullet from a tsunami rifle will take 53 per bullet from a PE.

Zeninja
26-01-06, 16:53
Maybe this helps:

A mob that takes 50 per bullet from a tsunami rifle will take 53 per bullet from a PE.
*poking himself with Math Processor 3*

Results from my 5 supercalculators cluster just arrived : PE does 106% of a TS damage on mobs. Let's guess it's the same for pvp (considering there's no flip points in resists based on a weapon's TL or global dmg output)

:cool:

Bugs Gunny
26-01-06, 16:57
You'll notice the benefit from the lower reqs to cap the tsunami in your con and other skills more than you'll notice the few % less dammage......

calim
26-01-06, 19:32
Finally, is the Tsu rifle is lootable ?

LTA
26-01-06, 19:34
Finally, is the Tsu rifle is lootable ?

its the tsunami epic reward...

never drop 120 rep everytime, all arti stats.... mod space.. it does favour of the painy but preference at the end of the day

calim
26-01-06, 19:35
its the tsunami epic reward...

Yes i know, but i've heard rumours saying it was lootable lol

LTA
26-01-06, 19:37
Yes i know, but i've heard rumours saying it was lootable lol

Probably just part of the large amounts of bullshit that pollutes the nc world

pain_easer
26-01-06, 19:38
Hey , it aint that hard to cap ME :P

Dargeshaad
26-01-06, 19:46
Hey , it aint that hard to cap ME :P
Did you just admit you suck at pvp? :lol:

pain_easer
26-01-06, 21:42
Did you just admit you suck at pvp? :lol:



HAHAHA , id love to dual you

Torq
26-01-06, 23:02
yeah, dualing is cool. BTW, Bugs, how can you be sure about capping runspeed. What would you consider as capped runspeed???

RogerRamjet
27-01-06, 16:53
The cap for a pain easer is around 118 weaplore, and between 160 and 163 rifle.

And it is better then the Tsu rifle. Swirleys FTW.

Dargeshaad
27-01-06, 21:01
HAHAHA , id love to dual you
Well get in line, there's a whole queue waiting, but fyi then we've already fought a few times at crp (if you're Pain Easer in game that is)....guess what the result was ;)

Zeninja
27-01-06, 21:31
guess what the result was ;)
like we care :rolleyes:

Dargeshaad
27-01-06, 22:02
like we care :rolleyes:
Obviously enough to reply :lol:

jini
27-01-06, 22:53
Well get in line, there's a whole queue waiting, but fyi then we've already fought a few times at crp (if you're Pain Easer in game that is)....guess what the result was ;)
i want proof... :D

sultana
28-01-06, 03:44
Kid, with a tsunami rifle you can cap runspeed, gun reveler, use viper king, have 501 health, good resists, including poison at 50%, hack 110, 128 stamina and you have a no drop weapon....... Screw the swirly.
I can get that with the Pain Easer aswell, I'd just rather have higher PSU.

Kid, with 108 weapon lore and:
165 RC, I cap damage/aiming and I get 162/min
170 RC, I cap damage/aiming/rof

SorkZmok
28-01-06, 04:04
Well get in line, there's a whole queue waiting, but fyi then we've already fought a few times at crp (if you're Pain Easer in game that is)....guess what the result was ;)
And i still didn't fight you, dammit!

You around saturday night? I'll be screaming for you on ooc. :p