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Clive tombstone
06-01-06, 21:08
Recently I've been playing a LOT of war hammer 40 & dawn of war (My trusty ol' Imperial gaurd army, and my Tau/Human army) And Ive been thinking, One of my favorite aspects of Playing Imperial guards was using the leman russ battle tanks, and lots of em for great suppression fire. Anywho, My point is, I totally remember a sorta "primitive" abrams tank that was being made WAY back in the beta. I think now would be a great time to introduce the schemata of these "old behemoths" from the ceres Disks possibly. I mean of course after the models were cleaned up to standard or something.

I mean I always wanted a large solid munitions tank to pilot.
Heres a leman russ by the way
http://oz.games-workshop.com/games/40k/gettingstarted/images/leman_russ.gif

PS- The original picture of the "beta tank" was on Neocron central.com, but I couldnt get it, aparently the site is down. Anywho what do you guys think?

Dribble Joy
06-01-06, 21:56
Ceres Challenger II ftw.


Btw... is that a heavy stubber on top of that rus?

Skusty
06-01-06, 22:04
T90 that does twice the dmg as a rhino, faster than rhino, resist the doubble, needs woc 1 to gun / Drive.


Got this today btw : http://img436.imageshack.us/img436/4171/shot01595mz.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Clive tombstone
06-01-06, 22:20
I forget lemme check my sheets, But yeah I think it is. Heheh, I usually field two of these guys every game (fielded 5, and some kirskin squads, was nearly unbeatable^^)

Anywho, yeah I still need to get my damn str WoC, and my dex too (if thats whats needed to drive "cries"

course looking at me army and looking at long range combat, i think I have a nice toy that fits "spies" need for sniper-age

http://www.games-workshop.es/warhammer40k/razas/guardia/images/index/guardia31p.jpg

I field these all the time, Basilisk's there called. ok, enough pimping WH40k, just looking to see what you all think of "different vehicles"

Paper Dragon
06-01-06, 22:26
Only if they add a Reliant Robin.

Clive tombstone
06-01-06, 22:33
:D

Only if they add a Reliant Robin.

wow, I just google'd that, and man, I wonder what brand of smack the engineers who made this were takin.
http://www2.uol.com.br/bestcars/carros/classicos2/reliant-robin-2001-serie65-4.jpg

Crazy ass Euro's and your fuel efficient vehicles and your enviromentally friendly policy's :D

edit, oops, I guess we already got one^^ +missles
http://ng.neocron.com/uploads/pics/shot_wt.jpg

Heavyporker
06-01-06, 22:42
tee hee hee hee!

Anyways, Ceres vehicles sounds awesome, especially if you have to dig up Ceres War blueprints for the schemata.

Sabots (high force, some pierce, massive vehicle damage) would be awesome.

*AND* the option to use explosive rounds that has AoE.

LTA
06-01-06, 22:49
New tanks would be cool, specially since a lot of old tech has appeared, such as the yamagotchi and the ak lol

Heavyporker
06-01-06, 22:55
yamagotchi?!?!? WTF?!

LTA
06-01-06, 22:57
yamagotchi?!?!? WTF?!

Run the Mr Jones scientist mission and you get a relic..... he tells you it ran on batteries and sends you to the power core to charge it... when you charge it, it beeps and says feed me...

It then becomes a pink yamagotchi yu can place in your apt lol

Foo
07-01-06, 01:13
reliant robins are classics here (UK) thx to this one.

http://www.3wheelers.com/moddspe.jpg

From the tv show only fools and horses.

Tratos
07-01-06, 01:16
New vehicles = win, i often thought it was a bit odd how we only have one type of tank yet have a fair few different types of projectile weapon, even if we got a tank that fired rockets would be uber or NeXT get some more yummy hover vehicles rolling off the production line as a hover tank which shoots plasma would float my boat any day, lower damage than the Rhino but speed > than a rhino would balance it well and it would look the fucking win :D then overcourse the other end of the spectrum with a big slowass thing with stupid damage potential :D for the brute force aproach.

EDIT: Reliant Robins only need motorbike insurance too iirc

ZoVoS
07-01-06, 01:25
i have always wanted a plasma tank

or a lightnin tank powered by monks =]

a monk gunner than creates aoe vollies (like teh module whos name i forget)

Clive tombstone
07-01-06, 02:49
You talking about a...
http://membres.lycos.fr/danielhd/cc/ra2/teslatank.jpg
tesla tank? zorvos?

Tratos
07-01-06, 03:04
<3 Tesla weapons

Oh now there is a cool idea, Tesla weaponry in NC please KK :p

Dribble Joy
07-01-06, 03:31
Rename freezer weapons to Tezla and make them pure xray?

Tratos
07-01-06, 03:32
Rename freezer weapons to Tezla and make them pure xray?
Arnt the ion weapons xray based? (As in the ones from HN)

Dribble Joy
07-01-06, 03:33
Dunno....

boneybob
07-01-06, 11:46
Rename freezer weapons to Tezla and make them pure xray?

Nah just make freezers work again.

You gona hate me for this.....
Make a freezer/tesla tank with low damage but AOE, mwahahah.

Any way, back on topic, WOC vehicles sounds cool i still think thier could be a larger focus on vehicles in this game. I'm not sure basing new vehicles around Warhammer stuff is entierly legal.

Oh KK, just a small reminder, to give vehicles storage! A boot!

Fero
07-01-06, 12:20
Mechs i say !!
or atleast Mi-24P/HIND F instead of retarded troop carier from TG FMS.
Spy pilot/2 gunners tanks ( one is 20 mill canon other one homing rockets with good force damage). 4 more people as campers in hull.
freaging hover button would be great addition too... it is pain in butt to keep one steady :cool:

rawr

Kozmos
07-01-06, 13:06
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/acatalog/stormblade3.jpg

one of them pls

Bugs Gunny
07-01-06, 13:07
A hummer or a classic mustang would be nice.
Maybe the madmax car with a gunnery turret.

giga191
07-01-06, 13:15
pretty much any useable items could be woc, personally i want to see a PA of some sort..

Skusty
07-01-06, 13:24
http://www.nemo.nu/ibisportal/5pansar/5sidor/5bilder/t90.jpg

One of those please. :D

CMaster
07-01-06, 18:03
Some new vehicles would be cool.
Artillery (read AoE) rhino?
Assualt Car (two 20mm guns and a driver)?
Give the termi quad a decent weapon (IE the cannon its mean to have, noit crappy rockers).
Passenger Glider?
Sky-fortress (say top and bottom mounted cannons)?

Oh, and "ion" damage in NC context = 75% Xray, 20% Force, 5% Energy (approx)

LTA
07-01-06, 18:28
Bring in the command and conquer Mammoth tank...

1 gunner for the twin cannons, 1 guy for the anti personelle/anti air rocket pods a driver and mebbe a spare passenger seat

Think if its gonna be a woc vhc (man talk about serious overcap work lol) it needs to be a beast of a machine whatever vhc it is, one that strikes fear into all players and is a arse to kill.... something to really persuade drivers to go for.

Clive tombstone
07-01-06, 18:55
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/acatalog/stormblade3.jpg

one of them pls

heheh a Bane blade? Jebus, thos are say a rhinos size times 4.

but yeah.

5150
07-01-06, 19:03
heheh a Bane blade? Jebus, thos are say a rhinos size times 4.

but yeah.

Definately _not_ a Baneblade (which have 2 Battlecannons). Pretty sure that the Stormblade with its uber Titan plasma blastgun

Didnt the NC backstory state that NC's army of Gentanks used hovertanks in the first war against the dome?

CMaster
07-01-06, 19:08
2578-2585
What was planned as a short strike becomes the longest military conflict in the history of the new world. While Ceres dispatches his armored warriors to the battlefield, the Psi Monks raise one Tank after the other and the factories spew out thousands of hover tanks.


So erm yes, and thats WITHOUT ceres discs tech...
This period is what is meant by the ceres wars, btw.

RogerRamjet
07-01-06, 19:10
http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/images/h60000/h60404.jpg

One of them please ^^

Skusty
07-01-06, 21:19
http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/SPECIALS/2003/iraq/interactive/munitions/7.scud.jpg
One of these!

Heavyporker
08-01-06, 00:10
I'd kill for aquatic vehicles. And even amphibious vecs like the air-cushion hovervehicles (you know, the ones we have today).

darkservent
08-01-06, 03:05
If we are talkin about new vehicles then I would also mention that the vehicles would be more than a new skin and have completly new fireing effects and timings on shots that are more realistic to the real vehicles. Right now the WOC weapons are a joke as their just a bunch of new skins on the PE and WE with extra dmg.

Tratos
08-01-06, 03:06
If we are talkin about new vehicles then I would also mention that the vehicles would be more than a new skin and have completly new fireing effects and timings on shots that are more realistic to the real vehicles. Right now the WOC weapons are a joke as their just a bunch of new skins on the PE and WE with extra dmg.

Well i guess we've picked a good time to mention this as 2.2 will have the vehicle element :D

Clive tombstone
08-01-06, 03:38
Honestly, I wanted something like this http://www.enemyforces.com/artillery/pion.jpg
as a two man vehicle, with maybe some extra stuff like extra armor maybe a third persons machine gun position

Heavyporker
08-01-06, 08:14
http://www.enemyforces.com/artillery/pion.jpg


Hahaaaahaaahaaa HA HA HA HA!

Good lord, if all these screenshots of the trike gunner's seat wasn't already funny enough, you gave me platinum, Clive! HA ahahahaaa!

RogerRamjet
08-01-06, 13:27
The possibilities of huge armoured tank battles is immense.

It could add a whole new aspect to the game. Imagine 2 clans battling it out with 20+ tanks over a huge wasteland.

/spaff.

awkward silence
08-01-06, 16:14
Why is every single shit supposed to be WOC? WOC is unfair and crap and id rather see new items INSTEAD of new WOC items. Sheesh

Kozmos
08-01-06, 16:16
Why is every single shit supposed to be WOC? WOC is unfair and crap and id rather see new items INSTEAD of new WOC items. Sheesh

lol, the point of woc would then be ?

msdong
08-01-06, 17:40
well my gfx skills suck but based on current models

http://www.twilight-guardian.info/ncforum/shot0064.jpg
http://www.twilight-guardian.info/ncforum/RhinoVX.jpg

ZoVoS
08-01-06, 18:06
The possibilities of huge armoured tank battles is immense.

It could add a whole new aspect to the game. Imagine 2 clans battling it out with 20+ tanks over a huge wasteland.

/spaff.

then 3 tanks come along with anti vhc rockets n total wastes the entier croud

RogerRamjet
08-01-06, 18:25
then 3 tanks come along with anti vhc rockets n total wastes the entier croud

Well if you wanna put a dampener on things...

Skusty
08-01-06, 18:36
Then give us landmines you can place out.

ZoVoS
08-01-06, 19:00
Then give us landmines you can place out.

if ur not on a gentank (or a hc pe i supose) u deserve to be wasted

ANTI VHC rockets for the win

awkward silence
08-01-06, 19:29
lol, the point of woc would then be ?

WOC is a stupid grind and shouldn't be an advantage in pvp. KK said it a while ago but apparently they slipped with the x-bow. I seriously hope WOC doesn't become something you need to have. Not all people play 24/7 but would like to enjoy the game without a grind.

Kozmos
09-01-06, 11:36
WOC is a stupid grind and shouldn't be an advantage in pvp. KK said it a while ago but apparently they slipped with the x-bow. I seriously hope WOC doesn't become something you need to have. Not all people play 24/7 but would like to enjoy the game without a grind.

A Grind ?

lol neocrons XP system is just about the fastest out there, when you can create a char and fully cap it in a day (PE/Tank) you cant call neocron a grind, hell it only takes 3 days max to mainstat cap a spy/monk. PE's its a bit slower to get WoC XP on, but is seriously doesent take that long to get it on a spy/tank/monk aslong as you have the right kinda team, your not talking months in the caves daily

Skusty
09-01-06, 15:16
If you want artilery, just start lobbing grenades.

giga191
09-01-06, 15:42
Why is every single shit supposed to be WOC? WOC is unfair how is it unfair?

RogerRamjet
09-01-06, 18:27
how is it unfair?

I think he's getting at the fact that you shouldnt have to work your ass off for however many weeks to take part in the most important aspect of this game, pvp.

Nidhogg
09-01-06, 18:33
How about we just give you max stats when you create your character and then randomly place weapons around the map for you to pick up, oh and change the name to Quake? Would that be fair? Maybe we could have a deep booming voice announcing when you've killed more than anyone else...ooh, and armour pickups! :p

N

RogerRamjet
09-01-06, 18:35
How about we just give you max stats when you create your character and then randomly place weapons around the map for you to pick up, oh and change the name to Quake? Would that be fair? Maybe we could have a deep booming voice announcing when you've killed more than anyone else...ooh, and armour pickups! :p

N

Maybe not to that extent, but can we have the m-m-m-m-mmmmonnsssttterrr kill voice implemented? :D

silent000
09-01-06, 18:39
who has ever played Halo 2, well wudnt it be kickass if you could board the tank or summit and get em out, or be able to walk up to say the bk of the tank and disable it for a short period of time, idunno just summit i thought :lol:

Bugs Gunny
09-01-06, 18:51
The thing is... you don't need WOC tot take part in pvp.

Kozmos
09-01-06, 19:09
The thing is... you don't need WOC tot take part in pvp.

Very True, Monks dont have WOC yet, and well, we all know how much pvp revolves around monks... :rolleyes:

Dribble Joy
09-01-06, 19:30
The thing is... you don't need WOC tot take part in pvp.
You will in all likeyness though.

pain_easer
09-01-06, 19:33
How about this idea , u could drive vhcs around everywere not just wastelands... it might sound fucked up but , hey u can have a rihno at mb zoneline , lol

Dribble Joy
09-01-06, 19:34
KK have said a number of times that vehicles will not be allowed in cities.

CMaster
09-01-06, 20:42
How about we just give you max stats when you create your character and then randomly place weapons around the map for you to pick up, oh and change the name to Quake? Would that be fair? Maybe we could have a deep booming voice announcing when you've killed more than anyone else...ooh, and armour pickups! :p

N

Oooh, oooh, could we.
Call it Unreal Tournament instead though.