View Full Version : Before you start bashing KK look at SOE
That's right, I hate to say it, but KK is a far better game publisher than SOE is, at least their game stays somewhat like the original game we (NC1 vets) purchased back in 2002, not some effed up mockery of a game that SWG (I played SWG since month 2) became with the last patch.
Go look at SWG, then look at NC, and you'll see you're far better off than that!
(yes I know this is a bad comparison, but it's truth to the core, KK isn't so bad)
So whats your point?
The point is, KK treats people here 'ok' relative to other companies.
I've been floating around here long enough (closed beta 3 and beyond) that I've seen what goes on. KK isn't as bad as everyone thinks.
The point is, KK treats people here 'ok' relative to other companies.
I've been floating around here long enough (closed beta 3 and beyond) that I've seen what goes on. KK isn't as bad as everyone thinks.
They leave to many loose ends. To many old bugs and problems that have been around for far to long they just ignore becouse they have some new grand plan.
SoE just messed up. The thing is they messed up by completely remaking the game into what people 'thought' they wanted. Biggest problem tho is the voices of all the other people that went unheard that liked the game how it was. Thus they just ********** themselves. SoE made a game with great netcode, no loading zones besides when you change planets, and relatively no bugs. Tons of content as well. It's just too bad it wasn't a nice cyber punk MMORPGFPS instead of a gay star wars game.
KK doesn't release a ton of content in patchs. Patchs are generally mediocre and not really alot of content. SoE releases patchs with huge updates and bug fixes. KK would call SoE's patchs expansions if they were the ones releasing em. I love neocron tho.. not sure why.. the enviroment is prolly what's keeping me here. Even though they're starting to mess with that :( I hope KK starts whipping out updates and new content like other MMORPGS do. I know KK doesn't have as big a staff as other MMO's, but still would be nice to see this game finally getting alot of good content updates and fixes.
This game isn't the same as it was when I bought nc1 either. I wouldn't call it a mockery though, more like a shell of what it once was.
Bugs Gunny
20-12-05, 10:07
I'm playing SWG now and it's FAR better.
I'm playing SWG now and it's FAR better.
Hahahahahahahahah what
I'm playing SWG now and it's FAR better.
WTF bugs?
noooooooooo..........
on topic. I think KK has had a small injection of staff as the NME team has now joined them or thats what we were told so maybe we will see some content in future months.
I loved Regents zone the Boss truly felt like a BIG boss and the last room was almost, dare i say it WOW inspired :D but i loved it more zones like that would be amazing not more caves like swamp,chaos :angel: Please :D
DarkPhoenix
20-12-05, 14:37
I'm playing SWG now and it's FAR better.
You're kidding right?
I'm playing SWG now and it's FAR better.
OMFG... i played it the other day its big pile of monkey love cream
Bugs Gunny
20-12-05, 14:49
Well at least it's a scifi game that has scifi content.
Neocron is rapidly moving towards a game where everyone will be a wizard or a knight.
Once SWG fixes the collision detection it'll be ideal.
Wanna look me up? PM me and i'll tell you who i am and what server i'm on.
Yeah you can't go anywhere without being knocked over by Knights, and I've lost count of the number of pairs of Inq boots I've got covered in horse shit. Speaking of which...
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Bugs Gunny
20-12-05, 15:13
Nid, do us all a favor and log into neocron.
Then go check out 5 opwars, take a headcount and list the classes.
Care to post them?
SCIFI game where the highest level content and combat is reserved for wizards and the gunusing crowd stands at the sidelines, chatting away as they reload their weapons.
Yeah you can't go anywhere without being knocked over by Knights, and I've lost count of the number of pairs of Inq boots I've got covered in horse shit. Speaking of which...
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Fix My soullight! >_< :p
Heh - I joke.
Bugs - SWG. Pssh. You sir appear to a receptical for bovine feaces... whats more you seem to be reaching your full capacity.
Thiing is - SWG has its Wizard-Night combo, the Jedi...
The point is, KK treats people here 'ok' relative to other companies.
The difference is, SOE is a large conglomerate - it's understandable, though still horrible, that they ignore the playerbase... They can't even see their own figurative toes over their sizable figurative gut. They pull in enough cash so as they could turn SWG into Hello Kitty Atomic Demolition Derby Online and still make a profit from their venture.
I might be wrong, but last time I looked - reakktor doesn't have that much wiggle room, so keeping the playerbase informed and somewhat content is imperative. Running hot and cold isn't, well, so hot.
I've played SWG, twice. It was only trial though and I always liked the game, you could build houses, mining facilities etc. anywhere you wanted on the different planets. Hell it was fun to actually measure wind speed in different areas to find the best place to put up my wind generators and same goes with mining, it was fun making tests in the ground to see where it was best to place a certain type of mineral mining building. SWG had an interesting environment and pretty nice graphics. And RPG in the game was very cool and combining RPG with macro was cool as well (I used to have hotkeys for "Yes Sir!/No Sir!" and made a salute emote for example). And I still remember the day when I was on my second trial, I was in a city in a desert somewhere, don't remember what it was called but a pretty famous one. I was building rockets, lots of them to gain xp and I built those timing devices that shot 10 rockets or something in a certain interval. I started to place around 15 of these around the town (I had to do something with them, I can't walk around with 1 ton of explosives on me heh) and when I did this, the imperial forces just attacked the town and took it over from the naughty rebels. When they did this my rockets started filling the sky with fire works and of course, the imperials thanked me a lot for the nice and warm welcoming. *imperial lover stamped on my forehead* :rolleyes:
I had great times in SWG, it's a pretty cool game with much RPG imo, I do feel sorry for the entertainer class that has to macro all day, but that's another story :p
I find it hard to believe SOE has ruined such a great game with patches, all I can see is improvements...
Neocron is still the best MMOG though, especially in PVP <3.
DarkPhoenix
21-12-05, 03:43
Have you played since Nov. 15 rob?
Have you played since Nov. 15 rob?
No I have not and I don't think SOE have ruined their game.
I think SOE is doing a very nice Job i am not playing SWG but Everquest2 which is also published by SOE.
Never had any problems or issues with the game itself or the support.
But i am also playing Neocron and i am pleased with KK aswell :)
I played SWG March 2004-ish.
I crashed roughly the same i did with Neocron then (Alot more than i do now)
The lag was stupidly bad and i played in power point presentation mode with everything set low alot of the time
Balance was shite with there only being 2 viable combat classes
It was pretty damn buggy (Oh the joy of SWGs speeder elastic band bug which was worse than the NC equiv at the time)
And from what i've read around the net and seen in the form of patch notes and the expansions its only got worse with the "combat upgrade" royaly fucking over alot of the community and making being a jedi pointless.
As a result i played SWG for about 23 days and canceled.
NC > SWG tbh.
EDIT: And the time sync from 'trade skilling' was huge.
probably one of the few here that played nc and swg beta and retail. all mmo's are going to change from what they start out as. normally it's little changes until one day you find that the game you're playing is nothing like the game you started playing. so what if swg decided to make some major changes? would it be better if they made them little by little like neocron has? even if you dont like the changes of swg, thats no reason to let kk off with whatever they want to do. they're going to do it anyway but still not a reason to sit there and take it. i dont see how you can call yourself a nc1 vet and believe neocron is still the same. they didnt change the genre of the game but other than that, nc is very different than what it was.
btw, isnt tentacle or something kk's publisher not kk themselves? been out for a bit and i missed a few things.
sanityislost
22-12-05, 00:38
SWG was fine the way it was.
Now the game has no depth at all, and a twitch based game on the laggy
servers they have was a really bad idea. SoE really just want to kill it off i think
SiL ..:..
That's right, I hate to say it, but KK is a far better game publisher than SOE is, at least their game stays somewhat like the original game we (NC1 vets) purchased back in 2002, not some effed up mockery of a game that SWG (I played SWG since month 2) became with the last patch.
Go look at SWG, then look at NC, and you'll see you're far better off than that!
(yes I know this is a bad comparison, but it's truth to the core, KK isn't so bad)
i am not paying sony ... so why should i bash them ? bring the friggin server online nibs :p
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