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Dearest KK Art Department,
any chance of you taking a few minutes in your schedule to look at the graphics for the various stealth tools ?
Stealth 1, 2, 3, Obliterator and the Nib Stealth all have the same icon, which is rather annoying.
Even a minimal change like adding overlaid text for, say, "S1", "S2", "S3", "S+", "S-" as you have for the TechLevel of the Hack tools would be most welcome.
here here!! ;)
I agree. Even ingame it seems the same. Even tho by what you are told you inject certain fliuds into your system you get hte same effect as you do trying hack. Maybe a simple on screen movement like a self injection would add to the effect greatly imho.
Amen. This has been driving me nuts for a long time. Way back in this thread (http://forum.neocron.com/showthread.php?t=128322&highlight=hack+tool), before 2.1 :(, I begged for this to be done... they're still the same tho *sigh*
Afaik the overlaid letters / numbers do not show up on the scaled-down quickbelt icon, or am i wrong?
Afaik the overlaid letters / numbers do not show up on the scaled-down quickbelt icon, or am i wrong?One would presume the concern is moving the items from Inventory/GG/cabinets into the belt and for trading/storage purposes. Nothing in the belt shows a TL or name at this time.
Afaik the overlaid letters / numbers do not show up on the scaled-down quickbelt icon, or am i wrong?This is true.
I suggested just the inventory text overlay as this would only be a tiny change to the item properties file and implementable in about 30 seconds.
Fully differentiated graphic icons for the inventory *and* quickbelt would be the ideal solution.
At one point in NC1 someone (I forget who now) did create new gfx & defs for the stealths ... you can see Stealth 2 in QB slot 2 in the attached screenshot - each had different colours and the number on it. It made life so much easier, especially when faffing around in inventory or gogu.
http://www.zen67459.zen.co.uk/random/spidey1.jpg
Oh yes please.
I already died because i accidently put my hacktool into my qb instead of my stealth 2. Didn't work that well when i tried to get away. :lol:
Sgt. Pepper
16-12-05, 11:37
yeah nice idea, not new but still important.
what about Armor, Belts, different ammo and all the other things that look the same?
Instead of having to redesign every single item that reuses some old graphics
they could simply make a system to let us customize it instead, wich would save
them an assload of work and at the same time make us happy because we get
what we want. It's win-win situation tbh.
Mighty Max
16-12-05, 14:38
Instead of having to redesign every single item that reuses some old graphics
they could simply make a system to let us customize it instead, wich would save
them an assload of work and at the same time make us happy because we get
what we want. It's win-win situation tbh.
Unfortunally it isn't. win-win
I had once created such a tool (ItemGFX). It got exploited. It got closed by me.
http://mightymax.org/stealth.png
http://mightymax.org/stealth_gamesize.png
http://mightymax.org/stealth_shot.png
was the first version of the stealthtool changes. Hehe a crappy gfx tbh. But hey im a progger, no artist.
Unfortunally it isn't. win-win
I had once created such a tool (ItemGFX). It got exploited. It got closed by me.
http://mightymax.org/stealth.png
http://mightymax.org/stealth_gamesize.png
http://mightymax.org/stealth_shot.png
was the first version of the stealthtool changes. Hehe a crappy gfx tbh. But hey im a progger, no artist.
Yes I know, and it was a damn shame it had to get spoiled, but If they make a
system where they can decide what can be altered and what not, they would
be in control. If such a system was in place, you could then make new graphics
for whatever KK chooses to enable you to, and that is a win-win situation.
Didnt the neolauncher mod re colour and label a lot of things?
I thought it was very cool tbh dont see why all belts are the same colour (should have red for fire, green for poison etc)
same as armours and stuff
I loved the old mod NLPRO we had in NC1 even the meat that was dropped looked better! Rare parts where easier to distinguish and the stealth idea rocked.
Shame there is no MOd allowed for this now :(
I had once created such a tool (ItemGFX)
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http://mightymax.org/stealth.png
http://mightymax.org/stealth_gamesize.png
http://mightymax.org/stealth_shot.png
was the first version of the stealthtool changes. Hehe a crappy gfx tbh. But hey im a progger, no artist.
Aaaah - yes of course - I should have remembered it was you that supplied the gfx shown above (Don't sell yourself short - they looked pretty good to me - I just added numerals on top of your design ;) ).
In fact I now remember using your tools to knock up a quick proposal for a de-frilled NC2 RPOS.
http://neocron.jafc.de/showthread.php?p=1632640#post1632640
Pity Iorghe never ran with it (or any other options for that matter).
And no - don't bother asking me for a copy of the files, people - it's been categorically stated that using it is verboten. :(
Aaaah - yes of course - I should have remembered it was you that supplied the gfx shown above (Don't sell yourself short - they looked pretty good to me - I just added numerals on top of your design ;) ).
In fact I now remember using your tools to knock up a quick proposal for a de-frilled NC2 RPOS.
http://neocron.jafc.de/showthread.php?p=1632640#post1632640
Pity Iorghe never ran with it (or any other options for that matter).
And no - don't bother asking me for a copy of the files, people - it's been categorically stated that using it is verboten. :(
btw I always listened to any proposal if it was considerable. But modding stuff is a nono it has been stated before and it won't change, that doesn't mean that we weren't listening, as a matter of fact somethings were in the works before I left. It is a pitty and a shame that I couldn't finish them up, but that's a whole other thing. Perhaps at one point there will be more options for players to change the looks of their huds. Perhaps it just got put in the freezer and it will stay there too. I don't know. But don't you tell that I never ran with any other options on any subject cause that's a plain lie.
-SL33PY
Fair comment.
I was only talking about RPOS options, rather than any of the other work you did, and by "ran with" I meant "made something visible happen".
Nothing did ...
I'm perfectly happy to accept this was not down to you personally. I'm just sorry that the "information black hole" appearance KK sometimes have led them to put you up as the front man for this sort of thing then say nothing about any ongoing stuff thereafter.
You got a bum rap, as they say :(
Fair comment.
I was only talking about RPOS options, rather than any of the other work you did, and by "ran with" I meant "made something visible happen".
Nothing did ...
I'm perfectly happy to accept this was not down to you personally. I'm just sorry that the "information black hole" appearance KK sometimes have led them to put you up as the front man for this sort of thing then say nothing about any ongoing stuff thereafter.
You got a bum rap, as they say :(
Well I'll take this as an apology and forgive you. I'm still not clear what you mean about the RPOS options, because I know I made several changes to the RPOS that otherwise would never have been in (f.e. more custom colors, drone hud & all features attached to it), which also are very visible ingame.
I'm gonna drive home now, gf is sick and my work is done for the moment
Well I'll take this as an apology
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I made several changes to the RPOS that otherwise would never have been in (f.e. more custom colors, drone hud & all features attached to it)
...Yes - it was meant to be an apology, although I wasn't trying to blame you personally. I accept it could be read that way though, so sorry ;)
(and I didn't know you were behind the colours part you mentioned)
I'm not a droner, personally, but I understand the changes you made there were exceedingly well received.
The options I meant were solely for a less messy/frilly and generally more useable main RPOS.
http://mightymax.org/stealth_shot.png
God... I didn't realize how much I miss those easily readable fonts until I read that without actually straining my eyes! :( IT'S BEAUTIFUL!!! *tear*
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