View Full Version : 2.2??? whats next?? the future??
sooo =] when are we gona get news on evo 2.2 =]
or will there be no 2.2 and will we get theam weeks back???
what's going on ='( talk to us...
:lol: basicaly whats next in line for neocron
Bugs Gunny
09-12-05, 16:21
If they go like the Matrix did it'll be :
Neocron
Reloaded (we're here now)
Revolutions (that's what's comming)
Yes, but unlike the matrix movies, the game is getting continually better. Sure, it has a few bumps in the road, but I still believe we are far better off than we were in late NC1. Besides population count.
Edit: I believe Reakktor said the next thing to come is an NPC graphical overhaul. Which should come right after the weapons overhaul is finished. Hopefully after that they add more hunting zones, a new city (neo-tokyo please), and start a reconstruction effort lead by the fallen angels to rebuild the dome.
Also, new mobs wouldn't hurt. Nor would a level cap increase.
Yes, but unlike the matrix movies, the game is getting continually better. Sure, it has a few bumps in the road, but I still believe we are far better off than we were in late NC1. Besides population count.
The game is getting continually better ? I think the pops after the 2 week trial will prove otherwise.
A few bumps in the road ? Game breaking flaws I think you will find.
The game is getting continually better ? I think the pops after the 2 week trial will prove otherwise.
A few bumps in the road ? Game breaking flaws I think you will find.
If you play just for PVP, then yes. But there are other ways to have fun in the game. Right now I'm attempting to start a drug empire, a hacker for hire, and an actual assassin. During that time I have great fun with my friends simply engaging in one on one PVP with them or going on hunting trips in our revler.
The reloading times don't affect me in the least, nor do any of the game breaking bugs. If you can find a game breaking bug that is more than an annoyance (besides how overpowered APU/PPU combo's are) I would like to see it.
Edit : replies 4, views 5. Hah.
Bugs Gunny
09-12-05, 16:33
I can live with a drugempire, but if you dare move in on our turf with the killing business..... you'll wake up with a drom's head in your bed.....
I can live with a drugempire, but if you dare move in on our turf with the killing business..... you'll wake up with a drom's head in your bed.....
I don't have a prize winning drom though :(
Mind buying me one?
Dribble Joy
09-12-05, 16:37
Also, new mobs wouldn't hurt. Nor would a level cap increase.
*Screams about balance implications*
I remember back when KK asked if people would want the caps removed, my very first post was in that thread, oh the embarassment....
*Screams about balance implications*
I remember back when KK asked if people would want the caps removed, my very first post was in that thread, oh the embarassment....
You know when somethings a bad idea but you go ahead and post it anyway?
Yeah, sorry about that!
Yes, but unlike the matrix movies, the game is getting continually better. Sure, it has a few bumps in the road, but I still believe we are far better off than we were in late NC1. Besides population count.
Edit: I believe Reakktor said the next thing to come is an NPC graphical overhaul. Which should come right after the weapons overhaul is finished. Hopefully after that they add more hunting zones, a new city (neo-tokyo please), and start a reconstruction effort lead by the fallen angels to rebuild the dome.
Also, new mobs wouldn't hurt. Nor would a level cap increase.
Your continual optimism sickens me.
We need to see KK's plans rather than tempting us to stay by baiting us with what may or may not come....
Me hitman and cryptochronic had conversations last night about the fact that as a procity clan there was basically no one to fight or even pk (and we spent a long time looking)... yeah the game is getting continually better... my ass, it just couldnt get any worse than late nc1!
I want a story line.
EDIT: No tell a lie! If kk implemented these retarded sl and faction sympathy systems in late nc1 it could be of been worse :p the additions that have been made appart from the new dungeon are pure eye candy.
^ Did you post that before or did I just have the clearest case of de ja vue ever?
Point I'm trying to get across is that despite neocrons problems, I'm still having more fun with it than any other MMO out there.
^ Did you post that before or did I just have the clearest case of de ja vue ever?
Point I'm trying to get across is that despite neocrons problems, I'm still having more fun with it than any other MMO out there.
Well when you form these arguements you should take into consideration that you might be an isolated case & no I havn't posted this before.
How long have you actually been playing now btw out of curiocity?
didn't they originally say that we would get a 200mb patch on dec 1st? i'm guessing some stuff needed finishing so they delayed it
2.1 is supposed to come in a couple stages - also Holger has stated we're in for a fun month development wise ;)
lets hope the next part comes before the trials ends
We was all as optimistic as he was when we first started playing i am sure, i am sure half of us are still optimistic hence why some are still here praying that one day some bugs will be gone.
FRE is now a game breaking bug for me, i have dealt with it for 2 years somehow, but i have lost so much stuff due to fatals, fataling infront of mobs that it now seriously vexes me out.
Or when you long sync and people are waiting on the other side so you appear half dead and dont even get a chance to fight back, or when your GoGu contents randomly vanish and you get told "Sorry we dont replace lost items".
Dying to invisible mobs, appearing in other peoples apts, i wonder what the poor people think when i drilled cs into there back in there apt where they were supposed to be safe.
APU/PPU combo was a unforseen result of Nerfing the Uber Hybrid (yes Holy Lightning Holy Buff Hybrids) infact it was probably the ppu who was more unforseen than most since people rarely thought about ppu.
Most bugs are now game breaking for me because they are the same bugs that were there when i started way back in 03 :p
Edit : Pity the trial isnt for a month because currently apart from a few things the trial has mostly reminded me why i let my account die
buy a new PC
Why would i buy a new pc for Neocron when i know its going to make next to no difference what so ever?
player shops :(
KK said we'll never get them. :(
Why would i buy a new pc for Neocron when i know its going to make next to no difference what so ever? because you have too much porn on it
because you have too much porn on it
Shhh thats beside the point....
nobody2004
09-12-05, 19:38
Ah, finaly.
It took NINE days for the first "we wan't more" thread to appear. :p
Well done KK, I think that will stay in the record :)
Now, joke a part, I too would appreciate if we could get some info re: what's next ?
Any more patch during the trial period ?
What's next on the priority list ?
balance ?
more story line ?
new content ?
fix(es) ?
TIA
Digital-Talios
09-12-05, 20:04
I noticed that the evo files were less then 200 mb. Perhaps they will wait a week after the free trial ends then release to get peeps to come back and check the things they fix? The conspiracies abound!
*still dreams of playable mutant city (regant legacy?) and mutant class*
Well when you form these arguements you should take into consideration that you might be an isolated case & no I havn't posted this before.
How long have you actually been playing now btw out of curiocity?
Since August 2002. Joined during beta 4. Call it a hope that KK has changed.
player shops :(
Player shops would make me cream my pants, I think this is what KK should be aiming for next, having a market setup like eve-online has would rock. Want a 3 slot unmodded shelter no problems, open city com browse PPU spells and there it is lowest price 20k. Player gets his item without having to need a cst and resser character of his own and real csters get there pay, csting time and ressearching time would have to be gimped for it to work.
Having it put in game now without tweaking to cst and ress times, would over over fill such a market system, we build over 100 of the same item but only because we need to. To get the right amount of slots but what happens if every cster puts up 200 TL 3 heals to sell them for profit, we would have a cluttered mess and the value of items would fall to build cost or below.
/edit
StockX imo is a total joke, it is not a real market there for it is not fun to play, a real player driven market with the right tools is very rewarding for those that spend some time researching. With player shops this could happen, people could sell everything needed to build wepons armour etc, chemicals used for csting weapon parts will have a dynamic < -- (spelling can't be arsed to check) price which will rise and fall. Supply and demand will affect its price, that means if there is a high demand but not much supply, its price will increase but slowly. But if there oversuppply it will fall very fast as people try there best to sell there goods befor they lose out, it could even cause it to come crashing down to worthless.
Having it put in game now without tweaking to cst and ress times, would over over fill such a market system, we build over 100 of the same item but only because we need to. To get the right amount of slots but what happens if every cster puts up 200 TL 3 heals to sell them for profit, we would have a cluttered mess and the value of items would fall to build cost or below.
I don't think so, If people don't buy your stuff you can always mod & sell back
to vendor to break even and most of the time make a profit. And if everybody
put out 50 3 slotted spells each ppl would soon learn that those 3 slotter don't
sell good and would stop putting out more then a few.
Maybe a few adjustments here and there but I think that it would balance itself
out overtime.
Ah, finaly.
It took NINE days for the first "we wan't more" thread to appear. :p
erm shut the hell up :D
did i say WE WANT MORE
i mearly asked WHATS NEXT not gimmi it now. they have done a good job and delivered it on time for a change. this boads well for coustomer relationships and starts to restore poepls faith
im mearly asking what are we to expect is next in kks grand plan
I don't think so, If people don't buy your stuff you can always mod & sell back
to vendor to break even and most of the time make a profit. And if everybody
put out 50 3 slotted spells each ppl would soon learn that those 3 slotter don't
sell good and would stop putting out more then a few.
Maybe a few adjustments here and there but I think that it would balance itself
out overtime.
That was one of the problems just entering my head after finishing that post =/
Maybe this is why we don't have player shops, with an NPC market on all items would mean people not being able to sell for less than NPC buy price.
/edit you get those sort of fuckups in eve-online, you can buy up peoples stuff and refine it back into minerals and sell for profit, because they sold for below mineral build price ....:wtf:
AlphaGremlin
10-12-05, 00:55
What I would like is for them to go back to the economy of the Beta, where weapon-parts weren't purchasable from the stores. You had to actually go and hunt for the lower level ones, and recycle them up, or purchase the high-level ones from the FSM's. This way it makes the lower-level constructors and ressers a key part of the economy: the higher-level ones can't be arsed building weapon-parts, so they purchase them pre-made from lower-level characters.
It was one of the most enjoyable parts of the Beta I remember, going into business ressing and constructing weapon-parts for people. We were able to undercut most of the other people building because they sold for a least a 100% markup and still make a tidy profit! :p
I think player-shops, and removing the lower level items from stores (leaving them in mob-loot so you can still get them) would make the economy a lot more interesting, and give a lot more meaning to the trade-skills.
AlphaGremlin
Asurmen Spec Op
10-12-05, 00:57
Your continual optimism sickens me.
Optimism isnt half as bad as pesimism, one of them leads to a good life [ edited ].
Optimism isnt half as bad as pesimism, one of them leads to a good life [ edited ]
No.
[ edited ] 3 years of experience teaches people who learn... those who don't waste their life for example, in hope fuelled by a pathetic obsession with a game instead of using rational to take a realistic overview of the situation.
A balance of both is what is required to come to a clear conclusion.
games are played because they are fun... when the bugs outwight the fun stop playing
for me the game is still increadably fun no matter what bugs are there
i fought a apu today. he zones came back with a ppu... i coudlnt beat em both so i zoned. thought id have some fun and piss em off. i zoned n BAM kammi to the face... i found that great fun. shocked the hell out of me. realy got ma adrenalin pumping =D
whats the point in whining u could be using that time constructivly finding a better game... n good luck with that. ye there are better made games than NC but i doubt ull realy find one more fun
Asurmen Spec Op
10-12-05, 18:33
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Asurmen Spec Op
10-12-05, 18:43
Cut it out you two.
N
That wasnt flaming........
God forbid I say optomism > pesimism
No.
3 years of experience teaches people who learn... those who don't waste their life for example, in hope fuelled by a pathetic obsession with a game instead of using rational to take a realistic overview of the situation.
A balance of both is what is required to come to a clear conclusion.
Reakktor seems like a company that finally got everything together. The quick rollback of apartments, the release dates that were kept (and in the case of evolution 2.1, released earlier by a few hours) for NME and 2.1, and a support staff that now responds to e-mails and GM tickets quickly.
I relize that reakktor fucked up badly before, hell if you look back at my posts around 2002-03-04 you will see a few short surges of optimism that quickly boils into pessimism.
3 years of experience teaches people who learn... those who don't waste their life for example, in hope fuelled by a pathetic obsession with a game instead of using rational to take a realistic overview of the situation.
Wait a minute, are you saying that I'm a pathetic person because I commend the developers for doing a good job and hoping for better things (for a game I enjoy playing) in the future? What? That doesn't even make sense.
Or are you saying that I waste my life with this game instead of being a productive member of society? I'm only 15, it's impossible for me to be a productive member of society unless I were to 1. Get a minimum wage job (had one, hated it) bagging groceries or 2. Get good grades in high school to become a productive member of society. Both have been accomplished to some extent.
I look into things far too much, which is why I'm training to go into psychology. You know, become a highly productive member of society (unless your a scientoligist).
Asurmen Spec Op
10-12-05, 18:45
Reakktor seems like a company that finally got everything together. The quick rollback of apartments, the release dates that were kept (and in the case of evolution 2.1, released earlier by a few hours) for NME and 2.1, and a support staff that now responds to e-mails and GM tickets quickly.
I relize that reakktor fucked up badly before, hell if you look back at my posts around 2002-03-04 you will see a few short surges of optimism that quickly boils into pessimism.
Wait a minute, are you saying that I'm a pathetic person because I commend the developers for doing a good job and hoping for better things (for a game I enjoy playing) in the future? What? That doesn't even make sense.
Or are you saying that I waste my life with this game instead of being a productive member of society? I'm only 15, it's impossible for me to be a productive member of society unless I were to 1. Get a minimum wage job (had one, hated it) bagging groceries or 2. Get good grades in high school to become a productive member of society. Both have been accomplished to some extent.
I look into things far too much, which is why I'm training to go into psychology. You know, become a highly productive member of society (unless your a scientoligist).
See, youre cool, thats why I gave you the craptastical earp my CSTer built
Reakktor seems like a company that finally got everything together. The quick rollback of apartments, the release dates that were kept (and in the case of evolution 2.1, released earlier by a few hours) for NME and 2.1, and a support staff that now responds to e-mails and GM tickets quickly.
I relize that reakktor fucked up badly before, hell if you look back at my posts around 2002-03-04 you will see a few short surges of optimism that quickly boils into pessimism.
Wait a minute, are you saying that I'm a pathetic person because I commend the developers for doing a good job and hoping for better things (for a game I enjoy playing) in the future? What? That doesn't even make sense.
Or are you saying that I waste my life with this game instead of being a productive member of society? I'm only 15, it's impossible for me to be a productive member of society unless I were to 1. Get a minimum wage job (had one, hated it) bagging groceries or 2. Get good grades in high school to become a productive member of society. Both have been accomplished to some extent.
I look into things far too much, which is why I'm training to go into psychology. You know, become a highly productive member of society (unless your a scientoligist).
Ok that changes things, at 15 you could be doing 101+ other things rather than becomeing an anti-social geek by playing this game to much and mucking about on these forums matey.
But hell I know what I was like at 15 (and i'm not that much wiser now) maybe you are better off spending time on mmorpgs.
I studied psychology at AS level, quite an interesting subject but you have to go beyond the lessons and into self study if you really want to understand and appreciate each given theory.
games are played because they are fun... when the bugs outwight the fun stop playing
for me the game is still increadably fun no matter what bugs are there
i fought a apu today. he zones came back with a ppu... i coudlnt beat em both so i zoned. thought id have some fun and piss em off. i zoned n BAM kammi to the face... i found that great fun. shocked the hell out of me. realy got ma adrenalin pumping =D
whats the point in whining u could be using that time constructivly finding a better game... n good luck with that. ye there are better made games than NC but i doubt ull realy find one more fun
Quake 4 and CS Source ;) as I have said in previous threads, i'm not staying if things stay the way they are.
Ok that changes things, at 15 you could be doing 101+ other things rather than becomeing an anti-social geek by playing this game to much and mucking about on these forums matey.
But hell I know what I was like at 15 (and i'm not that much wiser now) maybe you are better off spending time on mmorpgs.
I'm not, neocron is one of the many things I do. I only play it while I'm home. When I'm not home (which is often), I'm doing "other" things.
vashtyphoon78
10-12-05, 21:58
no!!111oneone i want a 14 day extension for every new part of the Evo that comes out! :p
Trust me, Ryen's barely here to run our clan. He's got freshman finals! :angel:
Asurmen Spec Op
10-12-05, 22:50
Ok that changes things, at 15 you could be doing 101+ other things rather than becomeing an anti-social geek by playing this game to much and mucking about on these forums matey.
But hell I know what I was like at 15 (and i'm not that much wiser now) maybe you are better off spending time on mmorpgs.
I studied psychology at AS level, quite an interesting subject but you have to go beyond the lessons and into self study if you really want to understand and appreciate each given theory.
Quake 4 and CS Source ;) as I have said in previous threads, i'm not staying if things stay the way they are.
I just LOVe people who call people geeks on ONLINE games.
Clive tombstone
10-12-05, 23:01
ok, Back on topic kids, jeez. I know you guys think that your general views on how the universe unveils itself may seem like an important topic, this is definatly not the thread for the discussion right now. Sorry if this maybe insulting anyone.
OK, now for whats next? Well Id hope Neo toyko would be a nice additon, or at least a snowy area or change of scenery. Being a Vehicle user on 3 of my Characters (including Tombstone himself) I find travel and discovery to be a big thing on my list. Hell ive made my own personal hand drawn map of places I like to visit on a daily basis.
Also, possibly some interaction with the Anarchy breed clans as well as the trader union would be awsome as well!
Finally, How about Weecrab pets for apartments! Come on, please?!
Sorry I cant add more right now, Finishing a 3D final.
PEace out
I studied psychology at AS level, quite an interesting subject but you have to go beyond the lessons and into self study if you really want to understand and appreciate each given theory.
So did I - and dude.
Lighten the fuck up and lose the holier than thou.
More to come as I respond to others.
ok, Back on topic kids, jeez. I know you guys think that your general views on how the universe unveils itself may seem like an important topic, this is definatly not the thread for the discussion right now. Sorry if this maybe insulting anyone.
OK, now for whats next? Well Id hope Neo toyko would be a nice additon,
Balancing ensues - as factions shift - or new ones are created - inevitable assfucks for some who would percieve it that way, and destruction of the relationships factions have built up. once it settles though - it could be VERY cool.
or at least a snowy area or change of scenery.
Sing it! Hallelujah! *waves hands*
Being a Vehicle user on 3 of my Characters (including Tombstone himself) I find travel and discovery to be a big thing on my list. Hell ive made my own personal hand drawn map of places I like to visit on a daily basis.
Also, possibly some interaction with the Anarchy breed clans as well as the trader union would be awsome as well!
Yesh.
Finally, How about Weecrab pets for apartments! Come on, please?!
Sexual.
Sorry I cant add more right now, Finishing a 3D final.
Excellent - You better be using max matey.
PEace out
I've been an optimist about NC2. in NC1 at times I got sick about being unable to avoid those enemy faction runners at every turn... I was WELCOMING the new faction relations overhaul, and thanked god that finally we'll be shifting our energy twoards the right directions. I was imagining Pro clans from various factions working together to help a Pro clan in need in an OP fight, fighting other Anti clans, in total I was imagining that a battle of one clan, from one allied faction, would be a battle concerning all clans from all allied factions.
In reality, we have nothing today. we're walking the streets of DoY and NC. PKing allies is not conventional, making those AKers unconventional runners, like a anomaly, a little kid throwing out his frustrations is the first thought that comes to our mind. but in truth we are all [atleast I think thats how we veterans from b4 feel] VERY VERY lonely. no PvP, very few OP fights
neither side is killing anyone, while before it was a small straw from P1 to PP1 to whoop some ass... where do you go for ass whooppin today?
but whats the worst thing I feel? call me an extremist, but I feel that whats done is done and can not be redone. if we ever build that new Neo-tokyo, I think it'll be a safezone all the way. why? I just feel that if any new content for the general public is added, which has to be accessed by both sides on a need-to-daily-basis, will have to be strictly regulated that we don't go on killing sprees, eventually messing someone elses play because he finds being there unavoidable, but then again very very painful. what I'm talking about is... just imagine TH not being a safezone the next morning you wake up... how would you feel?
it just can't be fixed anymore.
So did I - and dude.
Lighten the fuck up and lose the holier than thou.
More to come as I respond to others.
Can't be helped, ex-girl freind is being a spazz. Plus it's really getting to me as dem0n has wisely stated, PvP is hard to come by in Neocron 2.1 and the focal point of this mmorpg is?
Clive tombstone
11-12-05, 04:16
Can't be helped, ex-girl freind is being a spazz. Plus it's really getting to me as dem0n has wisely stated, PvP is hard to come by in Neocron 2.1 and the focal point of this mmorpg is?
Cyberpunk atmosphere? Sex, guns, and droms?
8|
:D
Can't be helped, ex-girl freind is being a spazz. Plus it's really getting to me as dem0n has wisely stated, PvP is hard to come by in Neocron 2.1 and the focal point of this mmorpg is?
PvP is hard to come by, because noone one wants to fight a ppu.
And for some sort of explination, gone is the day when you could go out on a lone pe/tank and expect to fight some decent PvP. MB is prime example for this, the zoneline even moreso, because you hardly find anyone anywhere else other then a zoneline.
Clive tombstone
11-12-05, 06:43
Well, theres always hope you know. Hell I still neofrag, which is a boat load of fun for me, but minus the risk and additional adrenalin. still fun as hell, Maybe some more NF maps would be cool! like a compressed version of the tg canyon And even the Volcano (I know it doesnt really exist, but a Lava Areana with caves, and fire and stuff would be neat)
erm im 19... i have been plaqying computer games since i was erm 2-3 years old.... im a barman, fun socialy acceptable job... a day doesnt go by withough atleast getting 4-5 txts. my contact list online is so stupidly vast of people i know irl.... when ever i log on i am spammed by about 10 messages....
playing compuers games,,, messing around on this fourm. and doing what makes you happy makes u an anti-social geek... Haha... everybody i know playes computer games. most have tryed out a mmorpg... grow up. this isnt the 80's computers have become an essencial roal in the lives of everybody... hell florider wants to beam wierless internet into everybodys house, they see it as a nessesity like electricity and gas
and as for asurmen i (shudders) agree with him ( :p ) that last comment he made realy shouldnt have been eddited. there is absolutly nothing wrong with showing a optamistic view for the game... god help us if we actualy try and show support for kk... god help us if we actualy say well done they hit there dedline and delivered what was promissed
i only started this thread to make sure we get comunication of them... i want to make sure they continue with all the feedback from what there doing like they did all throughout evo... as i said before. if u dont like the game. dont play it and dont post on the fourms. if i ever stoped liking this game, theres a million n 1 other thigs i would be doing. is ur problem that u have nothing else to do?
Finally, How about Weecrab pets for apartments! Come on, please?!
OMG OMG OMG I WANT WEEEECRABS.. =[ nobody will spawn me a army of them all over the floor of my apt... i have been trying to breed them but to no avail
Can't be helped, ex-girl freind is being a spazz. Plus it's really getting to me as dem0n has wisely stated, PvP is hard to come by in Neocron 2.1 and the focal point of this mmorpg is?
Women spazz on a regular basis dude, you aren't the only one. Don't let it put you in shitty mood - exes are exes for a reason, I think most people have been there and done that enough to know what some people are like, no need to let it influence what yuo say on a forum dude, it's not important.
Oh. Never put dem0n and wisely in one statement - his ego is a drain on precious earth resources!
As for the focal point of the MMO - differs from person to person. I like the PvP, and if you look in the right places, you can still find it. ;)
Belive me she is super spazzing... but enough of that ot'ness!
Yeah I found some pvp last night, chaseing two blessed hybrids with a silent hunter faffing about in mb zoneing and I went nf'ing.... which degenerated from duels into mindless fragging.
Belive me she is super spazzing... but enough of that ot'ness!
Yeah I found some pvp last night, chaseing two blessed hybrids with a silent hunter faffing about in mb zoneing and I went nf'ing.... which degenerated from duels into mindless fragging.
i preffer mindless farggin in nf... its mroe like what it shoudl be... a gank fest
I'm only 15, it's impossible for me to be a productive member of society unless I were to 1. Get a minimum wage job (had one, hated it) bagging groceries or 2. Get good grades in high school to become a productive member of society. Both have been accomplished to some extent.
Actually, you could quite easily at your age, go out and get a minimum wage job that will give you a qualification - Eg. bricklayer, drycleaner, carpenter, almost anything - they are better than being a bagboy. :P
And seen as everyone goes to university - people seem to believe that is the "best" way - these days, there is already a huge lack of jobs for uni graduates. Good luck going to university AND being a productive member of society within 5-10 years of leaving uni - most are in huge debt and cant get a real job, some are even overqualified for shit jobs and end up on the street.
Put that in your "go to school" pipe and smoke it. ;P
Actually, you could quite easily at your age, go out and get a minimum wage job that will give you a qualification - Eg. bricklayer, drycleaner, carpenter, almost anything - they are better than being a bagboy. :P
And seen as everyone goes to university - people seem to believe that is the "best" way - these days, there is already a huge lack of jobs for uni graduates. Good luck going to university AND being a productive member of society within 5-10 years of leaving uni - most are in huge debt and cant get a real job, some are even overqualified for shit jobs and end up on the street.
Put that in your "go to school" pipe and smoke it. ;P
Shush! My other half browses here sometimes! You'll scare the crap out of her! She's on a masters at the mo - has no money and also needs to start repayments on the student loan as of the 16 of april.
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